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Jared Allen signs with Chicago Bears

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on March 26, 2014 at 6:33 am with 93 Comments »
March 26, 2014 9:43 am

The Bears announced this morning that they signed DE Jared Allen to a four-year deal.

According to Adam Schefter, the Bears gave Allen a “four-year, $32M deal that voids down to three years of $24M, of which $15.5M is fully guaranteed.” The Seahawks were reported to have offered a two-year, $12 million deal.

That’s Michale Bennett-level money and likely more than the Seahawks were willing to spend.

Allen had visited twice last week with the Seahawks, who appeared to be the front-runner for his services next season. But, he left without a contract and decided to join the Bears instead.

Allen would have been part of the Seahawks’ defensive line rotation and, at that price, would have been a steep investment for a club concerned with re-signing Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman.

Seattle has signed only two free agents that were not its own in the offseason: offensive lineman Stephen Schilling and wide receiver Taylor Price.

The Seahawks brought back Bennett in their biggest offseason deal, signing him to a four-year contract worth $28.5 million, with $16 million guaranteed.

Allen, 31, had 11.5 sacks last season with the Minnesota Vikings. He’s had at least 11 sacks in the last seven seasons and is a five-time Pr-Bowler.

“We’re really excited about adding Jared to our football team,” Bears coach Marc Trestman said. “We know what his abilities bring to the table. We believe he’s going to come in hungry & excited to be part of our football team, and we believe he’ll fit right in.”

Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll told NFL.com that Tony McDaniel will replace Red Bryant; Cliff Avril will replace Chris Clemons.

Update: Ed Werder, who initially said Allen was on the cusp of signing with the Seahawks, says on Twitter he received a text from Allen who told Werder the Bears came in at the last minute.

Allen sent out a statement through his agents.

“I’d like to take a moment to thank my former teammates, coaches and the staff at the Minnesota Vikings for all of their inspiring work and dedication,” Allen said in the statement. “Perhaps more importantly I would like to thank the fans and the Minnesota community. I can only hope that I have left with you all with even a fraction of the positive support and impact you have had on my life, my foundation and my family.

“I am very excited about this next chapter in my career with the Chicago Bears and can’t wait to see what the future holds for us. God bless.”

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  1. The man needed that extra $2m a year to be happy. Having $100m in career earnings is much better than having $95m in career earnings.

  2. grizindabox24 says:

    Pabs, I still don’t think it is quite as easy as the money.

  3. OK. Well, that whole deal is moot now. Draft time…..

  4. ohiohawkfan says:

    As with everyone here, nothing I woild like more than for the Seahawks to win the SB again this coming season and for Allen to only dream what could have been. Obviously, greed is more important to him than a ring.

  5. Hammajamma says:

    $15m guarantee vs. $6m. No contest.

  6. chuck_easton says:

    Good for Allen, he got a team to up their offer.

    Good for Seattle, it wasn’t them that panicked.

    8 million a year is too much for Seattle to take on.

  7. banosser says:

    So much for playing for a winner huh JA!!

    We all now know what is really important to you as a man… Money is your source of pride..

    Enjoy playing with that great leader of men, Cutler lol…

  8. ChrisHolmes says:

    Good for Seattle. Not bending to outrageous FA contracts. I love JS more and more every year. Smart man.

    Allen obviously enjoys the thought of more riches and an 8-8 record better than he does winning a Super Bowl.

    Which makes this extra smart by Seattle. You don’t want guys on your team who aren’t driven to win it all.

  9. montanamike2 says:

    8 million a year for an aging rotational player, he is good but declining. Good luck winning a SB with the Bears. I’m glad we stayed on course for the future.

  10. banosser says:

    ^^Which makes this extra smart by Seattle. You don’t want guys on your team who aren’t driven to win it all.

    Agreed 100%… the way this went down, I’m more than happy JA is not a Hawk

  11. montanamike2 says:

    Me too.

  12. RDPoulsbo says:

    $8m/year for at least 3 years is too much for a guy his age. I’m glad JS stuck to his guns. Let other teams hang themselves on bad contacts. Cutler isn’t going to lead that team anywhere anyway.

    They are looking mostly for role players and there’s still a bunch out there for cheap contacts. Keep this team young and hungry.

  13. With the money, he cant possibly spend what he’s already made. Nor can his kids. While Im sure most of his decision came down to money, I think the money angle has less to do with actually spending it as with his pride. His pride made him want a top-dollar deal, plain and simple. When you have that much money already, money is just a number. It means little in and of itself; its the bragging rights and pride of being paid like a top dog that he was after.

    And Chicago is a LOT closer to Minny than Seattle. He may have decided not to uproot his family for a lot less money just to chase a ring.

    Im fine with it. And we really dont need a guy who isnt totally thrilled about being a Seahawk. We dont have to settle. Quinn will figure out ways to bring the heat. We have 4 LB who would start for any team in the league, and Irvin is the fastest LB or DE in the NFL–why can we figure out how to pass rush with those guys? Answer: we can, and will.

  14. Dukeshire says:

    Of course it’s the money. Vetran players sign for 3 reasons: 1. Money 2. Play for a contender 3. Play close to home. For Allen, 2 and 3 are out.

  15. bird_spit says:

    I hope we meet the bears and crush them. Just for fun but also just for proving our own is just plain better than our own plus JA.

  16. montanamike2 says:

    I’m glad we spent that 8 million on Bennett instead. We needed inside pressure.

  17. grizindabox24 says:

    Everyone want to point fingers at Allen for being greedy, and it might be the case, but it sure seems the Hawks have been trying to low ball offers compared to what the rest of the league is doing. Outside of Hauschka and Bennett (and I still think Bennett left money on the table) the Hawks seem to be making offers that people are not even thinking twice about. I am not saying any of this is right or wrong, but that it takes two to tango…so far the Hawks are sitting next to the punch bowl, but that may be by choice.

  18. SandpointHawk says:
  19. CDHawkFan says:

    73 and Griz,

    CD posted last Friday… Also wonder if this is to scare another team into signing him/offering him something this weekend. Imagine if San Fran picked him up over the weekend…not that that is going to happen (due to money and current roster of DE).
    This all seems a bit over the top. I just want to know the number, please let it be for less than Bennett.

    Freedom posted…It’s his life and his career. Why does Jared Allen need to do anything different to cater to hyper-sensitive fans? Like no one here ever wanted to take the weekend to make a major decision about their life?

    Duke posted…freedom_X – Agreed and thank you for saying it

    My point was people (Freedom and Duke) were quick to say ‘why do you jump to conclusions and assume the guy wants more money, can’t a guy just need the time to figure out this major move?’
    My point has nothing to do with PC or JS, its just how quickly people threw away an opinion and basically said I was being too critical and not taking the guys/main media word for the delay.
    I just wish people would allow a bit of wiggle room in their posts. I use the terms ‘maybe’, ‘I wonder’ or ‘it could happen’ as I know I don’t want to come across as 100% sure. So to me, when I come across an opinion I don’t necessarily agree with, I tend to let it slide by without a comment, or ask if they have consider another view…not, why can’t you take a guy for his words and shut up.

  20. grizindabox24 says:

    CD, but Freedom and Duke were right..he was entitled to take the weekend and decide. I think you are trying to hard to be the “I told you so” guy when everyone knew that it was possible that someone would offer more money.

  21. montanamike2 says:

    I’m glad he isn’t in our division.

  22. HawkfaninMT says:

    So if some one has time and the understanding, as it stands now what does the depth chart look like for DL, and include the different sub packages?

    I feel like we have a ton of bodies that have a bunch of potential, but I do not grasp the full understanding to know which guys play 1T vs 3tech vs 5T vs Leo in the different fronts… I feel like if someone could post those, we may be able to have some insight into whether JA was a “need” vs an opportunity to sign an aging vet with a couple years still left in the tank

  23. ljarllrajl says:

    Can’t fault him for taking the money when there is that big a difference in contracts. But I think the real draw for him with the Bears is getting to play the Vikings twice a year. The man is not motivated by greed, he’s motivated by revenge.

  24. HawkFanInAz says:

    Posted by me on Sunday.

    “Ok, my 2 cents. I say he retires, because he won’t take anything less than 8 million a year, which I doubt we offered him.”

    I got the number right, but didn’t know about Chicago being in the mix. They did a good job of keeping that away from the media.

    GO HAWKS!!

  25. HawkFanInAz says:

    We’ll get to see JA next year, hopefully in Seattle. If not, Soldier will do.

  26. Not signing Jared Allen also means the Hawks will retain a 2015 compensatory draft pick for losing Golden Tate, likely a 3rd or 4th rounder. Signing Allen would have offset that loss.

    So it’s more than just saving cap dollars to sign Thomas, Sherman, Wilson, and possibly a linebacker. It’s also a way for Seattle to stay young, which is what they’re going to need to do to stay competitive. Sign the few home grown stars you really need, sign a ‘value’ free agent here and there to fill a need, and stay young where you can (probably defense) where you can coach up young talent on rookie deals.

  27. CDHawkFan says:

    Griz, you missed my point. Everyone knows that people have the right to take a week, month etc to consider a job offer. I am not sure why you are trying to say that’s was my point outside of trying the stir the pot and disagree with someone again.

    My point is clearly stated above. Its not that I was right, but others were quiok to say my speculation was wrong. I offered it up as specuation with ”I wonder”, so unless you are JA, I’m not sure why you would reject a plausible idea with the ‘major decision/guys word’. Sure taking his word was also plausible, and as such, I wouldn’t have rejected it either.

    And, I don’t think everyone is calling JA greedy, I’m not, Slave isn’t, I don’t think Bobby is, etc.

  28. grizindabox24 says:

    I wonder if CDHawk ever gets out of his mom’s basement and gets some sun?

  29. grizindabox24 says:

    I also do not see were Freedom or Duke stated your speculation was wrong, more to the fact that people just need to chill and the guy will do what he thinks is his best.

  30. Sarcasticus says:

    Now we can focus on the who is going to be the Leo this year. Is Cliff going to move over and start there, or is the position going to be filled from the roster (Mayowa? Irvin?). I am sure there will be some speed/size guy picked in the middle rounds that all the draft “experts” think is a reach.

    Oh by the way, lay off the personal attacks. Let’s start talking about pro days and the upcoming draft. No one cares about who said what when or why. I pat you all on the backs. You are all amazing.

  31. grizindabox24 says:

    says Sarcasticus…

  32. CDHawkFan says:

    Not sure why you had to go there (Mom’s basement) Griz.

    You do realize that a comment like that out of the blue looks like its you that is more of the Mom’s basement type (immature)?

  33. RDPoulsbo says:

    I wouldn’t call the Seahawks lowballing players. I think of it as staying disciplined. A lot of crazy, stupid money is thrown around in free agency that usually never pans out like a Mario Williams or closer to home, Houshmandzadeh. I suspect it happens more because teams are looking more to make a splash and sell tickets than to actually build winners. That’s what really drove me nuts about Ruskell. It’s nice to see a FO that’s showing restraint like many of the other successful franchises around the league.

  34. grizindabox24 says:

    CD, I said “wonder”

  35. I posted this on Sunday, but since I have a knack for writing the last post on a topic just as a new one comes up, I don’t know if anyone saw it or just thought it unworthy of discussion.

    “Can it be that JA doesn’t think he would get as many sacks with us as with other teams, and it is all about a personal record? Two good years of sacks could put him among the top all-time. Maybe more important to him than the possibility of a ring.
    Or Maybe he doesn’t want to be on a team where he’s not the top dog.”

  36. grizindabox24 says:

    RD, my point was people want to knock JA and others because they stick by their guns looking for more money, and it seems other teams are willing to pay it, but let the Hawks FO slide for sticking to their guns. I am not arguing that one is right and one is wrong. So the Hawks front office is showing restraint, I am all for that, but I am not going to knock JA for trying to do better and speculate about his motives.

  37. grizindabox24 says:

    PHX, I think playing 60% of the defensive snaps instead of 90% played very large into JA’s decision.

  38. I think that Jared Allen is worth the $8 million and I’m sure that JS would have given it to him if the cap allowed it this year. The defense would have been absolute hell for every other team.

  39. grizindabox24 says:

    If Avril is the new Leo, and McDaniel is the new Red…& Mike Bennett is still Mike Bennett, than Irvin likely the new “Avril”….

  40. Unless the team thinks Amayowa or Irvin can do the job at DE during passing downs, Bennett has seen the last of being an inside presence, as he”ll be at one end and Avril on the other both in running and passing downs. I’m guessin they had a plan for our run defense before they let Red go (Hill, Scruggs) and I’m guessin they had a plan before they released clemens w/o a replacement, maybe they feel Amayowa is ready to be a starting DE in the NFL.

  41. grizindabox24 says:

    I think Bennett still moves inside and Irvin will now take the role Avril had last season. Starting LB’s will be Wright, Wagner, and Smith

  42. RDPoulsbo says:

    I’m not knocking Allen at all. I certainly think he’s being overpaid, but that’s not his fault. In fact, I love it when other teams overpay for aging players and find themselves in cap hell a few years down the road. Seattle had their number and stayed disciplined. I’m happy about that. As for Allen, well he got paid the number he wanted, so I don’t have any issue with that either.

  43. grizindabox24 says:

    RD, was calling you out…just the majority of others

  44. RDPoulsbo says:

    I get it. People are mad because the big fish didn’t sign with Seattle. If he had signed here for that much money, the same people will be mad next year when they’d have to let Sherman or Thomas walk because of the cap. The Bears pretty much committed $8 mil for the next 3 seasons to a guy who will be 34 in that 3rd season. It might not bite them this year, but it likely will the next couple seasons.

  45. grizindabox24 says:

    *not calling you out

  46. Most likely its about ego IMO. Getting paid significantly less than you are worth in pursuit of a noble cause takes tremendous inner strength and is pretty rare to find in people. My guess is that in this case the ego hit of taking much less money simply outweighed the positive of contributing to a team likely to go to many super bowls in the near future.

    Everyone has to choose their course based on their own values so I don’t judge him for it but I wonder after his career is over and he is old what he will think looking back? Would he have rather played for possibly numerous rings? Or would he rather have that extra money in the bank and more mediocre years? It seems to me that time is the only real limiting factor. One can always make more money. But the time and the experience of playing for a team with a unique approach that values a player’s individuality and uniqueness -and appears to be a contender for years to come- one can never get back. 2 cents…

  47. yankinta says:

    I am very glad we did not overpay. Plus I am very glad we have not signed any significant free agents.

    If my calculations is correct,, we should get about 3-4 compensatory 4th round picks next year. :)

  48. “Good for Allen, he got a team to up their offer.

    Good for Seattle, it wasn’t them that panicked.

    8 million a year is too much for Seattle to take on.”

    Agree with all of that. Too bad though – we could’ve used him, and it would have been fun to see what he would do for us, in what, it seems to me, is a perfect role for him at this point in his career.

    And calling him our for being greedy? seems like a cheap shot to me, not many of us have the decision in front of us, where one door leads to literally leaving millions of dollars on the table. who knows how much he has saved, and what his earning potential is for the next 50 years of his life. I don’t judge these guys at all on that front. We’ve all seen teams cut guys the minute they’re not better than the man behind them, don’t really see why the players have some duty to be any less mercenary than the teams they play for.

  49. grizindabox24 says:

    Honestly, how many people here would take a job for significantly less, especially if they did not have to work at all. The guy still wants to work, but he is not will to make a huge sacrifice to do so. But now everyone wants to call him greedy, lacking in pride, and having a giant ego. I guess I am in the minority and don’t see it that way.

  50. grizindabox24 says:

    yank, I think your calcs are incorrect. I could see a 4th, 2 more split between the 5th and 6th rounds and a 7th..no way they get 3-4 in the 4th round

  51. tealskin says:

    Fact is, the Hawks are not locks to be playing in any more Super Bowls than the Bears during Allen’s career. The rebuilding has begun and the Division gotten stronger. We have to regain some perspective about the difficulties of staying on top.

  52. grizindabox24 says:

    teal, the Hawks are not even a lock to be in the playoffs

  53. Singularitarian says:

    MikePDX- a noble cause? Get real man

  54. Singularitarian says:

    Looking at the cap this year Seattle is in a place to pick up a big name or 2 in free agency next year or year after. Let the Suckers overpay for aging talent. For Allen it’s a no brainer, as Seattle ‘ offer to him is what golden tate would call “laughable”

  55. Southendzone says:

    I’m all for maximizing the compensatory picks. Once you get that rolling you are in a great position for long term success.

    1) You get more picks than other teams
    2) You develop these picks
    3) You retain some, others move on, and again you get more picks.

    Yank is probably close to right on number of comp picks. Tate will be 4th rd, Breno 4th/5th, Clinton McDonald 5th/6th, and Browner 6th or so.

  56. jawpeace says:

    15.5 million guaranteed verses 12 million for two year with ? guaranteed. No wonder he struggled with the decision. If he goes and blows out a knee and never plays again he 15.5 guaranteed. Compared to the Hawks best chance for a ring but SIGNIFICANTLY less money. In the end money guaranteed is always the guarantee. I don’t blame him for going to the Bears.
    Bright side lets get ET extended with some of that $-now.

  57. rramstad says:

    I think this all worked out perfectly, and am happy with the outcome.

    I do suspect that JA will leave his family where they are, and he can do that if he’s playing in Chicago. If he was playing out here, that would be much harder, they’d almost certainly have to relocate… which for a two year deal makes no sense.

    I am quite confident that our cap space will either allow us to grab a couple of role players near the end of the free agency period… or possibly scoop up a few cuts during training camp… or maybe extend Sherman or ET this year, leaving the other one for next year (and giving us cap room to franchise that player for one year if necessary).

    Don’t get me wrong, I was very excited about the possibility of having JA on our squad for a year or two at a fair price, but he is on the wrong side of 30, he’s played a LOT of snaps, and the deal Chicago just signed is frankly stupid. Very glad it wasn’t us signing that deal.

  58. chuck_easton says:

    I’m with RdPoulsbo on this one.

    Seattle isn’t ‘lowballing’ players. They are being very wise with the CAP. I.E. they don’t have a whole heck of a lot of it to throw around like drunken sailors on leave.

    They have a very detailed and disciplined plan in place. If a player of interest comes up they will make a play for that player but they will be honest up front and tell the player ‘here’s what we can give you…it’s set in stone…if you can do better elsewhere then great for you and good luck.’

    The days of Seattle having to overspend are over. The days of Seattle needing to make a big splash in FA to appear relevant to the rest of the NFL community are also over.

    This is not a desperate team. If a player of Allen’s calibre wants to come and be a ‘part’ of something then great, here’s what we can do. If not, I’m sure there is already a plan in place to have a younger, cheaper, hungrier, player already in the cross hairs.

    It’s what we saw with the Tate deal. Team: ‘we love you…we want you to stay and be a part of this great thing we have going on here…this is what we can afford to pay you…if you can get more elsewhere then no hard feelings and good luck in your career.’ Tate: ‘ that was totally disrespectful after all I’ve given you…’ I think the approach by each side and the reaction afterwards shows Seattle did the right thing and Tate may still need some more time to mature.

    The team knew Clemons wouldn’t consider a pay cut, so he was cut. The team knew Red Bryant was too proud to even approach and they didn’t want to end the relationship on a sour note so he was simply released.

    When all is said and done and Seattle suddenly has the financial ability to re-sign Thomas, make Sherman a very good offer (not sure Sherman will take anything less than being the highest paid in the league), and finally sign Wilson to that Franchise QB number of 20+ per season, everyone on here will be praising the FO for being smart enough to save money for the important players and not waste it on FA’s wanting more than they are worth.

  59. grizindabox24 says:

    wise with money…low balling…it is all in the eyes of the beholder

  60. Southendzone says:

    It’s making choices.

    We could have signed Eric Decker, Golden Tate, Jared Allen AND Demarcus Ware this year if we wanted. Salvage future cap hits big time, say bye-bye to home grown elite talent like ET, Sherm, and Wilson.

    How did the Hawks win the SB? By having players OVERPLAYING their contracts. That’s the situation they tried to set up again, we would have taken JA at a low #, and if he overperformed, well we’d be in great shape.

  61. Glad we didn’t sign him–

    Jared Allen=Grant Wistrom=Patrick Kerney.

    Aging and overpaid.

  62. I am OK with not signing Jared Allen, but I think he still has some gas in the tank and will be able to help a team for one or two years. Contract notwithstanding, I would be surprised if he plays for any more than two more years. Seems like he barely wanted to play this year.

  63. I would have made the same decision Allen made, but if the Super Bowl ring was that important to me, I’d have chosen the defending champion for a short term deal.

    Still, the Hawks won it all without Jared Allen. They are certainly a threat to go back for SB49.

    So, do the Hawks look at Chris Clemons again or hope they can draft a contributor in May? And if they got he draft route, how does tat affect the Hawks WR and OL needs?

  64. grizindabox24 says:

    stantak, Clemons signed with Jax

  65. grizindabox24 says:

    draft wise, I think Seattle takes the best DT,DE,WR,OL left at #32.

  66. There is not much d-line out there anymore….. Anthony Spencer or Robert Ayers for DE or Pat Sims for inside. After an awesome 2012 (he was franchised) Spencer was injured and played very few snaps in 2013. I didn’t think much of Ayers during the Superbowl, but PFF graded him fairly well on the season.

    Would like us to use some of the money not spent on Jared Allen to re-sign Sidney Rice.

    Another guy I like who is still available is Eben Britton. He can play G or RT. Has a little more experience than Michael Bowie and would be good competition for an o-line spot.

  67. grizindabox24 says:

    Shaun Phillips is still available

  68. Macabrevity says:

    I for one am glad we didn’t offer what he wanted. Big departure from the Ruskell regime as previously mentioned and definite proof we’re in it for the long haul.

  69. griz….. I agree with your needs list.

  70. trout_hound says:

    Damn. I was salivating for a sweet #69 Jersey.

  71. Yep – I know Shaun Phillips is available. I didn’t mention him because he is 33. I would be good with him on a one or two year deal, but think the Hawks will stay away from him because of his age.

  72. grizindabox24 says:

    blocis, I think they would roll the dice on a one year deal with Phillips if needed. The guy still brought it last season. But I agree that he would be a last gap type signing.

  73. Maybe somebody said this (I just skimmed through the posts after reading the 1st 20 about it being about money), but I think Allen wanted more playing time to pad his stats. With the Hawks, his playing time would have dramatically dropped.

  74. Phillips is probably a way safer signing than Anthony Spencer would be.

    My suspicion is that Spencer is a Cowboy this year or out of football.

  75. I don’t know the guy – but I can’t imagine the guaranteed money wasn’t the biggest factor. And to my mind, that’s fair enough.

    As many on here have noted, we have to be very mindful right now about throwing guaranteed money around w/all the important in-house deals coming up in the next two years. Still, it’s disappointing, would have been cool to see him bookending Avril.

  76. Very happy we didn’t overspend. This is the FO I have always dreamed of since 76 (in retrospect of course). I must admit, I always had faith. It was really hard when Mora & Ruskell & Behring were around, but overall we as fans have all been rewarded.

    Thank goodness coaching staffs don’t have a cap. Paul can outspend any owner to maintain this until PC/JS calls it quits.

  77. @grizindabox24, that’s what I get for depending on ESPN.com for the information. They still show him as available :-)

  78. grizindabox24 says:

    stantak, you probably saw the wrong Chris Clemons. There is a Chris Clemons that played safety for the Dolphins that is currently an UFA.

  79. banosser says:

    Jared Allen just completed a contract worth $72 million… He, from everything I have read, has been quite frugal with his money and supposedly has invested it pretty well… So this contract will not change his life one iota… He just left a team that finished 31st in the league in total defense.. He just signed with a team that finished 30th… Regarding his stats and desire to finish among the top sack ‘artists’, you can’t sack the qb on running plays.. As for him being a situational pass rusher he would have probably played Clem’s position.. Clem played in nearly 60% of the defensive snaps last yr and doesn’t take into account the games he missed early in the season due to his acl, so Clem probably would have had 700 snaps.. So this is probably closer to what Allen would have had this coming season… Was he afraid his sack numbers would decrease because of his fewer def snaps?? My guess is if he was concerned about his sack #s it was because he’d have to compete for those sacks with Bennett and Avril..

    Allen had a rare opportunity, with all his worldly needs taken care of (does it really matter if when you’re 70 yrs old you have $50M or $40M in the bank??), he could have chosen to play on the best defense in the league, had a legitimate shot at a ring, would have faced next to zero double teams, would have been fresher to go get the qb in passing situations by not having to play every down.. He instead chose to pursue.. money… When his kids are old enough I hope none of them ask why he didn’t sign with Seattle… because he could have told them that you know what, money isn’t everything.. sometimes you need to make sacrifices to attain life long goals.. sometimes enough is enough.. and the Championship team I was a part of (or even the championship we pursed) was worth the sacrifice (like it would have really been a ‘sacrifice’)..

    Allen had a shot to make a rare statement he instead chose to be a Bear… I’m just glad JS&PC did not cave…

  80. grizindabox24 says:

    You are correct…no one ever takes a job for the money.

  81. “I think Bennett still moves inside and Irvin will now take the role Avril had last season. Starting LB’s will be Wright, Wagner, and Smith”

    I think this is right on the money with PC saying that Avril will be Leo and McDaniel stepping into Red’s role. I had asked awhile back if McDaniel could be a 5-tech. There’s my answer. Irvin is more than capable of filling the role that Avril did in 2013 IMO.

    Regarding Jared Allen, Chicago is a lot closer to Allen’s home in Minne than Seattle is.

    The Bears were 8-8 in 2013 with a fair amount of injuries. They’re hardly a bad team. Don’t get why everyone is convinced he’ll be playing for a loser.

    Saying he just took 2 mil more a year is just asinine. He took 15.5 mil guaranteed versus an amount we don’t know. Presumably whatever his 2014 base would’ve been, 6-7 mil.

    I would’ve loved to have the guy for the right price, but I don’t get why so many people are butt hurt about it? He made his choice. As is his right as an adult. Get over it. The Hawks will be fine.

  82. Shaun Philips is still out there if they want to sign a vet that can rush the passer. He had 10 sacks last year for Denver. Don’t see anyone offering him more than about 4 mil.

    The Hawks will likely take the best DE/DT/WR/OT available at 32.

  83. bbmate, yes I too thought bringing in McDaniel and seeing him improve was a good sign they had found a less expensive 5-tech than Red. And I see no reason why Irvin can’t move back to DE. We could still use another big DE for depth, but with the young DTs waiting on the bench its all adding up to yet another powerful mix on the D line.

  84. Jared Allen proved he’s not a ring chaser.

    Da Bears haven’t chased a ring since, what, 1985?

  85. grizindabox24 says:

    What do you know, Allen did not even take the biggest offer…Raiders were offering more than the Bears. Guess that makes the “he was just after the money” rant a little more hollow….

  86. We have not had great luck when signing aging, white pass rushers to long term contracts. They might do ok for a year or two, then drop off a cliff due to various reasons ( age, injuries, combo)
    I think we all wanted JA just to see our lineup on paper, so you could say we as fans wanted our ego boosted by boasting about the best D in the league ON PAPER. No one knows how it would’ve played out in real life, and I’m still not convinced that JA was a huge upgrade over Clem. If you’re going to release Clem and eat dead money in the process, it doesn’t make sense to take on all the cap space we just cut loose while signing someone who is not an obvious upgrade. And just looking at our depth, I am very comfortable where we’re at on the D Line.

  87. seatowntp says:

    “Sources also said that Allen’s wife was not enamored with Seattle in her two visits and didn’t like the city. Really? Maybe she was here on a couple of typical rainy and gray winter days, but enjoy those winters in Chicago.”

  88. banosser says:

    The last weekend they were here was 60 and sunny.. a beautiful weekend

    He’s a Bear now.. done.

  89. We didnt need Percy Harvin to get to the SB, nor Jared Allen. We didnt need either player to win it either….

    We have a presumably healthy Harvin for next year…

    SB here we come, no?!

  90. If McDaniel is moving to the 5 tech, who is replacing Tony then as the starting 3 tech?

  91. My guess would be either Hill, Williams, or someone they draft this year. Hill is probably the front runner.

  92. banosser says:

    My guess is they hope Williams is healthy enough to take over for Red and Hill will replace McDonald

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