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Avril expected to play vs. 49ers; Browner slated to practice this week

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 9, 2013 at 3:54 pm with 32 Comments »
September 9, 2013 3:55 pm

The Seattle Seahawks appear to be getting healthy at the right time. Pete Carroll told reporters this afternoon that defensive end Cliff Avril was close to getting on the field against Carolina, and is expected to be ready for Sunday’s home opener against San Francisco if he makes it through practice this week.

“Cliff Avril is a good possibility if me makes it through the week,” Carroll said. “He practice well enough last week, and he was very close to being able to play on Sunday.

“So we’re planning on him being a part of it this week, unless he has some kind of setback we can’t foresee. So that will be a nice little boost to get him back in the game.”

Carroll said that Brandon Browner still had issues with his hamstring during pre-game warm-ups, and the hope is that he’ll return to practice on Thursday. Browner remains a possibility to play against San Francisco.

“He ran hard in pre-game, but not full speed,” Carroll said. “We want to make sure that we can get him back to full speed. He’s in a track meet out there. So he has to have all of that going for him. He ran today. He’s going to run tomorrow. And Wednesday we’ll see how he does.”

Defensive end Chris Clemons will get some reps with the team on Wednesday, but still might have to wait a couple weeks to get back on the field.

“We need to just get him through the practice routine, and see if he can handle it, which we think he can,” Carroll said. “He looks great, but he hasn’t done that yet. So that means he’ll be working against other guys, pushing and shoving and all of that, in a limited fashion. And then we’ll just take it one day at a time and see how he progresses.”

Carroll said the training staff is holding Clemons back, and that the team’s leading sack man feels like he’s ready to play.

“He’s really chomping at the bit to go now,” Carroll said. “He’s telling us he can go, and he’s ready and all of that. So he’s actually where you want your player to be. So we are having to hold him back until he can prove it, and then come back after that work and feel good.

“So we don’t know how long it’s going to take. It may make take a couple weeks, I don’t know.”

James Carpenter played the majority of the reps at left guard over Paul McQuistan. Carroll said that Carpenter made it through the game okay, but he has not made a decision on who will start there on Sunday.

Carroll said that no serious injuries came out of Sunday’s game at Carolina that he’s aware of at this time. Jeron Johnson did suffer a minor hamstring strain, and Carroll will see if he can get back on the field later this week.

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  1. I’m really looking forward to Avril seeing the field. Not only is he an above average pass rusher, but he’s one of the best players in the NFL at forcing opposing QBs to fumble (which, IMO, is a lot better than a sack).

  2. AVril and Clemons can only help. Really think our D played well yesterday, esp in the 2nd half. Worth noting that Newton never looked to throw deep the entire game, testament to our DB’s.

    Going to be an exciting week leading up to next Sunday night.

  3. raymaines says:

    If CC doesn’t play this Sunday I don’t think he’ll play against Jacksonville either (why would he?). Then Avril and CC should be good to go week four against Houston, then a hungry Bruce Irvin gets added to the mix in time to harass Andrew Luck in week six.

  4. SandpointHawk says:

    Ray you confused me so much I had to double check the schedule. Colts are week indeed week five.

  5. SandpointHawk says:

    Gee, can you tell my son had a major trauma in the middle of that post and I didn’t proof after loosing my train of thought…

  6. stantak says:

    SandPointHawk, the fact that you finished the post tells me your son is somewhat better. I certainly hope so anyway.

  7. SandpointHawk says:

    Son’s fine, overreaction of a 15 year old. Thanks for asking and sorry for the added drama…

  8. sluggo42 says:

    Eric, how did the “meat” players play, mebane, red, mcdaniel, and newcomer Smith?

    It’s great to get all the outside rushers healthy and back again, but lets face it, we will need some healthy weight in the middle against the awesom 49ers line in order to disrupt their running game. If they are able to establish a running game, we will have a pretty tough game.

    I just still can’t figure out how Boldin got 200′ even if it was vs second stringers. That won’t happen to the Hawks, I guarantee it :)

    But, the question remains, can we control their ground game?

    Secondly, will we be able to run on them? I have heard conflicting reports on Carp, good, and bad. I think you stated the entire oline was shakey at best, and I’m wondering if there is a possibility for the line to come together in one week. Does the fact that it was an early road game affect the line that much?

    How good is the 49er secondary? What are the odds that we come out throwing and using the read option, which from my point of view was never used against Carolina. I saw time and time again when RW could have held on to the ball and either run or fake the run and throw, be he just kept giving the ball to marshawn every time!

    Lastly, did we play fairly vanilla in order to not show SF anything, because this home game means everything?

    Go hawks

  9. raymaines says:

    And yes, Indi is week five, not six. Sorry.

  10. grizindabox24 says:

    CC will play when ready…they will not hold him out if he is ready

  11. grizindabox24 says:

    Also, does RG3 look far from 100% to anyone else?

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Chip Kelly working his magic so far, and on pace to set the NFL high in plays for a game.
    Too bad we don’t have him here with Wilson.

  13. grizindabox24 says:

    Philly looks good because the Skins look so horrible. The biggest key going against Kelly and the Eagles will be keeping your offense on the field against their below average defense.

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    These coaches from the Pac 12 are just killing the NFL! Carroll, Harbaugh and Kelly.

  15. grizindabox24 says:

    Flat out, RG3 is no where close to being ready to go and should never have started the game…it hurt the skins.

  16. Sluggo – Great questions, and I hope Eric responds to some of those. As to your question: “will we be able to run on them? I’m wondering if there is a possibility for the line to come together in one week.”

    Here’s something to consider:

    Game 1 – 2012 (@Arizona)
    Offensive line allowed 3 sacks
    Marshawn Lynch 21 rushes for 85 yards 0 TDs
    Total Yards 254
    Points 16
    Loss

    Game 2 – 2012 (Dallas)
    Offensive line allowed 2 sacks
    Marshawn Lynch 26 rushes for 122 yards 1 TD
    Total Yards 315
    Points 27
    Win

    Our O line was shaky in the road opener in 2012, and got it together for the game 2 home opener to rout Dallas.

  17. It was great when I asked Eric today in live chat how we would defense Boldin vs how the Pack had and he replied- hit him over and over again in the mouth!!…….love it, though I like Boldin just not for any team the Hawks play but especially not the Whiners!
    Also, good for Brady Quinn turning down SF and returning to the Jets when they wouldn’t guarantee him.. Harbarf just trying to spy more..

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:

    For STTBM-

    “With two games left to play on the NFL’s opening weekend, Wilson is the league’s top-rated passer in the fourth quarter (158.3, on 7 of 8 passing for 114 yards and a touchdown); ranks No. 4 overall rating (115.7, on 25 of 33 passing for 320 yards); and No. 8 in third-down passer rating (110.2, on 10 of 11 passing for 115 yards).”

  19. montanamike2 says:

    I would like to add Fells to the team, we’re at the point where we need players on the field more than projects.

  20. Georgia–I stand by my analysis. You homer fans are pathetic. Saying Wilson has some things to work on doesnt make me negative, nor does it make me a Wilson “hater”. Sheesh. If Wilson wasnt far harder on himself than I am, he wouldnt be half the qb he is.

    But I guess stats are never misleading, and they tell the entire story.

    That was the ugliest 300 yard passing day I can remember.

    However, thats not to say he didnt make some great throws and reads: he did. You dont put up stats like that by playing badly all game. And feeding the ball to Baldwin seems like a great idea long overdue.

  21. montanamike2–When was the last time a Patriots cut played well for anyone, let alone Seattle? Fells is utterly done, or they wouldnt have cut him–they need TE’s as well.

    The Person experiment failed miserably, now Seattle is kinda desperate for a blocking TE. Bummer.

    But yeah, I agree: Id rather have a washed up veteran out there as a reserve TE than a project unfamiliar with our system.

  22. montanamike2 says:

    It’s getting old the way Harbaugh always blames someone cheating or playing dirty every time the whiners lose.

  23. Georgia–Besides, when did I ever say Wilson didnt play well or had a bad day? I simply responded to a comment where someone said Wilson “sure throws a beautiful deep ball”, because even on TV I noticed those two passes were off. And they were. Period. Only a blind homer would say otherwise.

    Everyone gets pissed when the national media geeks list Wilson out of the top 10 qb’s, and most seem to think he’s a top 5 qb. But the pass to Williams was early and overthrown to a guy who is 6’5″ tall playing against a 5′-9″ corner, and even had Williams caught the ball, it wouldnt have been a TD because of the ball placement. Now, if youre going to risk that throw, it needs to go into the endzone. And on Kearse’s, he had to slow and time his jump rather than just run to the ball. That play worked, but he needs to practice that throw some more.

    Elite qb’s in this league would have placed those two balls better. Guys like the Mannings, Brees, Brady, RG3, even guys like Rivers, Kaepernick, Schaub, etc would throw that pass differently. If you want to say Wilson is elite and a top 10 qb, he’s got to throw those better.

    The thing that also bothers me is all the crap people gave Brady Quinn for his underthrown TD pass to Williams, yet Wilsons was nearly the same to Kearse. But with Wilson, people angrily insist the throw was perfect, or ‘good enough’ because it worked. Well, you cant have it both ways, Quinn’s pass worked too. Have some logical consistency, idiots!

    Wilson is a great qb, and I firmly believe he’s going to be one of the best in the NFL. But perhaps becuase he doesnt throw the deep ball all that often, he is often slightly off target, and that needs to improve. Also, his medium to long passes tend to float and sail upward about halfway to the receiver; Ive wondered what causes this? Perhaps something with his delivery and or/ how he holds the ball? I havent noticed it with other qb’s.

    Tell me you dont think Wilson held the ball too long a few times. I saw him pass up an open back running across the field with room to run on first down in the red zone, trying to force a ball into the end zone; that was the play Johnson sacked him and made him fumble. I watched him do that several times. To me, it looks like WIlson was thinking too much, getting greedy and trying too hard instead of taking whats there, as if it were a conscious decision to be more patient than last year. But it backfired.

    I guarantee Wilson and his qb coach will be going over the same things I pointed out.

    The thing is, as I said, I love Wilson and think he’s a great qb. I just like to discuss the minutiae of football, and these are some things I noticed that bothered me. Nowhere did I say Wilson sucks, or that he didnt win the game for us, or that Im not a huge Wilson fan.

    Instead of refuting my analysis, most are simply freaking out that I dared say Wilson is anything but perfect. I have no respect for that. And I still dont understand how attempting to discuss a couple plays made everyone decide Im a Seahawks hater and that I think Wilson sucks. Its madness.

  24. montanamike2 says:

    STTBM, yeah the leave no stone approach doesn’t seem to help with washed up players. Even though we have only a few weaknesses to address, i hope pete and John already have their eyes on some talent for next years draft. We have a lot of talent banged up already including most of the FA pickups, so while we upgraded it won’t help if they’re not on the field.

  25. montanamike2 says:

    STTBM i’m glad you’re on board, Wilson is still new to the NFL and will get better, i think he’s over thinking too.

  26. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- This is not a stat, just the greatest play in the NFL this week.

    But of course that’s not good enough until Wilson completes that pass 10 yards longer and two seconds faster.

    Get real.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000241421/article/only-the-best-six-plays-that-explain-the-weekend

  27. Georgia, I love looking at that play again.

    Wilson deserves a ton of credit. DB deserves two tons of credit.

    Most QBs get sacked on that play, and most who don’t get sacked either throw it ten yard out of bound, or get a grounding penalty or throw an INT. Wilson avoided the sack and showed lightning reflexes. He also threw the ball to a location where it could not be intercepted. He also say DBFresh in the vicinity and somehow threw it where DB could get to it. That was the play of a seasoned pro running on pure instinct and athleticism. It was also textbook-smart.

    And DB? Ridiculous. To see that ball arcing to the sideline way behind his route, fight his way past two defenders to get to that spot, and stick two feet inside the white line while making that awkward grab? Ridiculous. That was the play of the week.

  28. I agree Stevos, Baldwins catch of RW’s throw-away pass was absolutely crazy. A lot like GB’s Jordy Nelson’s sideline catch. To have two of those on one day is ridiculous.

    Georgia–Who said Wilsons pass to Kearse wasnt good enough? Certainly not me. It got the job done, as others pointed out. Thats good enough for six. But do you honestly think Wilson watched tape on it and said to himself “That was beautiful” or even “That was good enough”? I’ll bet he practices that throw 20 times his first day back. And the toss to Williams was not a great throw. As I said, had Williams caught it, it wouldnt have gone for six and it should have.

    Wilson is, and should be, held to a higher standard than Quinn, not a lesser one. Thank goodness he holds himself to a higher standard.

    And in no way did I ever imply Wilson was less than a stellar qb. Too many homers just dont want to hear anything other than Seahawks are Great, and they certainly dont want to look to closely at the chocolate covered turd Seattle dropped on Sunday.

    So I expect a ton of teeth gnashing next week if Seattle doesnt improve dramatically. Me? No teeth gnashing, because I can see it coming, barring serious improvements in discipline, execution, and playcalling.

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- That wasn’t a throw away pass. It was a great pass to a good receiver that has been practicing together for several months now.

    Expect more of this kind of play moving forward.

    STTBM- maybe if you get your head out of the trees you will see the forest better.

  30. Georgia– I guess you missed the interview where Wilson was complimented on his pass to Baldwin, whereupon he admitted he was simply trying to get the ball where no one could catch it, ie, throwing it away.

    DJ Hackett made a similar play years ago on a Hass throwaway. That was a great, fun play as well.

    But yeah, Wilson knew Baldwin would be heading that way, and Baldwin knew Wilson would throw the ball that direction and he might have a play…the chemistry b/w them is really awesome. Im hoping its like Hass/Engram soon…exciting! Who needs Harvin?!

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