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The low down on Harvin’s decision to have hip surgery

Post by Eric Williams on July 30, 2013 at 6:43 pm with 72 Comments »
July 30, 2013 6:51 pm

By now unless you’ve been hiding under a rock you’ve heard the news that Percy Harvin has opted to have surgery to repair a partially torn labrum in his hip, as he announced on Twitter earlier today.

The Seahawks later confirmed this report, and the surgery is expected to take place on Thursday.

Dr. Bryan Kelly, who recommended surgery after examining Harvin today, will perform the surgery.
No official timetable has been given for Harvin’s return for action. But a typical recovery time for this type of injury is 16 weeks, and it’s expected that Harvin will return in time to contribute during the second half of the season.

Specifically, even though Harvin’s decision to have surgery affects Seattle’s depth at the receiver, the team does have a few things working in their favor.

For one, the new PUP list rules give the Seahawks more flexibility, as the team has until Week 15 to activate Harvin.

The Seahawks also do not have their bye week until Week 12, and have five games in December, so there’s a chance that Harvin will be back for Seattle’s playoff push at the end of the year.

Expect Jermaine Kearse, Chris Harper and Stephen Williams to benefit from Harvin’s injury, with a chance to earn playing time or a roster spot.

Harvin ultimately made the decision to have surgery and get the situation taken care of, after talking with team doctors and Kelly. Even though team doctors recommended Harvin rehabbing and playing with the injury instead of surgery, the organization fully supports his decision.

Also, Harvin received a clean bill of health when Seattle performed a physical before the trade with Minnesota. The first signs of Harvin’s hip issue did not crop up until Seattle’s OTA practice on June 3, when Pete Carroll said he missed practice because of a hip flexor issue.

Harvin did not practice the following week during the teams mandatory minicamp because of the issue, and reported having soreness in the hip when he returned for the beginning of training camp, which prompted team doctors to look at the issue further.

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  1. chuck_easton says:

    Remind me to call the Seahawks FO when I decide to sell my Yugo. Apparently they are more than willing to pay top dollar to take a lemon off your hands.

  2. Singularitarian says:

    see you in 2014 Harvin

  3. thursday says:

    Like someone in the previous thread said, if it was a choice of 80% Harvin early on (with risk for further injury) vs possibly 100% for the last 5 games, I’ll take that. I don’t think that’s a terrible proposition at all. We all know this guy’s talented, his stats bear it out. Idk why people are jumping on the omg we got a horrible trade bandwagon.

  4. chuck_easton says:

    Given his past history we won’t see him play a down this season. Something will always be ‘not quite ready’.

    But hey, he now has a lot of time to sit around counting that 11 million he just fleeced the FO out of.

  5. WiscCory says:

    Too bad he didn’t have the diagnosis and surgery after camp.

    Chuck, keep the faith. Hold hope that Harvin will be at 100% for the playoff push. At least he shouldn’t have the “hurts” that accumulate thru the season come December.

  6. Wide Receivers are high risk thoroughbreds. It does hurt to see them lose a first pick and commit a ton of money on someone only to have them become a very questionable contributor…not just this year but into the future. But like we say here: you pay yer money and you take yer chances. They went for broke and in this case they busted. You don’t make every decision the right one. They’ve enough decisions right, however, that they remain a Super Bowl contender.

  7. …they’ve made enough decisions right…

  8. DanielleMND says:

    It’s disappointing, but it can’t be blamed on the front office if he passed the trade physical.

  9. One suggestion I would make to the front office though…just stay away from Minnesota, they always seem to come out on top in anything to do with The Seahawks.

  10. This is very disappointing but I would rather have him for the second half of the season than the first. He will be a fresh rested weapon for the playoff push that will give our division foes an “unknown” to game plan for. As a MN resident I am really regretting all the needling of my Viking coworkers back in March. Tomorrows payback will suck…

  11. freedom_X says:

    I don’t think Harvin will have the same impact coming back in November as he would have with a full training camp going into Game 1.

    Unless there are major injuries or underachievement to Seattle’s receiving group, I expect roles to be settled and the offense to be grooved in by then. If Sidney Rice, and/or Tate, and/or Baldwin are cooking then, it would be wrong to just chop them off to give Harvin lots of opportunities. If those guys can’t perform, then of course it’s quite a different story.

    I liken it to Joey Galloway coming back from his holdout (when he milked the holdout until the last game before he would lose credit for a season of service.) Galloway came back, but the offense didn’t take off like people hoped. Galloway really ended up just taking away from the existing performances, replacing their numbers with his own, instead of being a net add to the offense.

  12. bbnate420 says:

    It’s 14.5 mil Harvin will be counting, Chuck. ;-)

    Always look on the bright side of life.

  13. bbnate420 says:

    Harvin can be used in more ways than Galloway could, at least at that point in his career. I think they just work him in. He’s a helluva decoy if nothing else.

  14. tchristensen says:

    CAN WE PLEASE STOP HEARING ABOUT PERCY HARVIN FOR A FEW DAYS!

  15. raymaines says:

    Playing the part of a doctor, Groucho Marx once said “You want a second opinion? OK, my other opinions that you’re ugly.”

  16. chuck_easton says:

    :) don’t make me smile when I’m in the middle of a pouting session bbnate!

    Oh well, since he never actually stepped on the field it’s not like the team is any worse off than they were last week.

    You can’t really miss driving the new Ferrari if all you ever got was a glossy picture and a promise of how great the engine was going to sound.

  17. freedom_X says:

    I’d agree Harvin is more versatile, but Galloway was used all over the place too. He also returned punts (which Harvin doesn’t do) but only a few kickoffs. But Galloway, in each of his 1st three seasons, had an 86yd,51yd,and 44yd rushes respectively.

    I’ll never forget the 86 yd run against Jacksonville on the road, where he reversed his field completely and outran the whole Jaguar defense. It was clearly the best run ever in Seattle franchise history until BeastQuake.

  18. HonHawksLSB says:

    You can’t blame the FO for this one. Injuries happen. Lets just hope he comes back after week 12 bye ready to contribute for a Superbowl run.

    Hon Hawks

  19. MNHawk – What part of MN are you from?

  20. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I posted this days ago and have heard similar comments from many others regarding Harvin. This team was one defensive stop and 33 seconds from going to play SF in the NFC title game last year….without Percy. We were the highest scoring team in the league the last six weeks of the season. Without Percy. The team did this with a stud beast running back, a rookie QB, above average receivers, decent O-line that turned out two pro bowlers and the #1 scoring defense in the entire NFL. Without Percy.
    The main components of that team are still in place. The experience from last season should carry over and enable these guys to perform at even higher levels. Now I’m not saying losing Percy isn’t a big deal cause it is, but this team showed us all plenty last year without him and with Wilson running the show, he’s certainly not going to throw in the towel, pout or make excuses.
    Winning more this year without Percy will make getting to the Superbowl all the sweeter.

  21. Still worried about ST.

  22. flywhtguy23 says:

    He was fine one week, then “tweaked” it, now he is out for a long time. Just want to believe his teammates, but it appears he is a Diva like other wideouts. Just hoping he was different.

  23. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I meant to say I posted something similar to my above post a few days ago.

  24. Next man up. Nuff said.

  25. freedom_X says:

    Divas usually avoid surgery. If someone agrees to go under the knife, they’re pretty worried about if (even if the concern is misplaced or overblown in their mind.) A bad surgery can end a player’s career, and the rehab is probably more of a grind than practicing.

    A diva would try to avoid practice, citing the injury, but show up for games (and game checks.) Harvin probably feels he needs to be pain free in that region to perform like he wants to. While Kam Chancellor played with that injury, Chancellor doesn’t depend like Harvin does on quickness and agility. And I think most people agree Chancellor had something of a sub-par season (by his standards and our expectations.)

  26. Since an offense requires close coordination and experience with each other, if he ends up on IR rather than coming back midseason, the offense might be better off with the players on hand, anyway. This gives some of the newer players a chance to develop with more reps.

  27. Why does this surprise anyone? Harvin gets to sit on the bench and collect 11M without risking injury, and career, by playing a single down. And if he feels there was the slightest chance of aggravating it by playing this year, even an extremely thin chance of that happening, this is nothing but upside for him to err on side of caution, not play at all, and have it fixed. He had no incentive to play this year; he already collected his money. And finally, the doctor is not an unbiased factor here. It is well known that orthopedic surgeons tend to recommend what they know best – surgery.

    It would have surprised me if Percy did not have surgery.

  28. Southendzone says:

    Can’t wait for Paper Harvin to avoid getting back on the field for so long he will make Derrick Rose look like Ironman.

    Tried to take my new Harvin jersey back for a refund but it broke when I got it off the coat hanger.

    I guess at least he can go down as the worst FA acquisition in Hawks history though, that’s something. I’ll be shocked if he plays more than 8 games EVER as a Seahawk.

  29. flywhtguy23 says:

    Freedom- I agree about not wanting surgery, but what I meant by that comment was that everything has to be perfect or else. I want to think he is tough, but it’s football, and your never 100%. The reports from Minnesota just won’t leave my head.

  30. flywhtguy23 says:

    He and his contract are a luxury this year, but will it be the same in 2 years when our other guys are up for big pay bumps? In JS we trust? God I hope so.

  31. BobbyK~ I am from Everett. I am living in Gaylord MN by way of marriage. 14 years now but I still bleed blue and green.

  32. You’re about 45 minutes from me. Cool.

  33. Played college baseball with a guy from there 15+ years ago (Klukas, if you know the name: he was a C).

  34. vichawkfan says:

    Gimme a P…gimme a U……gimme a S

  35. this sucks. really wanted to see what this guy could do for us. cr@p way to start this season off.

    all injuries burn, but a non-contact off-season workout injury? somehow that’s even worse.

  36. I really don’t get all of the Percy hate. He got injured. It happens. Suddenly he is the worst FA signing in Hawks history? Why don’t we wait until at least one season before we make statements like that. He is still one of the most explosive players in the NFL and we have him for 6 years! Be patient for christ sakes…

  37. For being just one week into training camps it sure does seem that there are a LOT more serious injuries league-wide this year.

  38. A guy I work with grew up here and played town ball for years. He probably played with him!

  39. Singularitarian says:

    MNHawk. We just did wait for 1 season

  40. “I really don’t get all of the Percy hate. He got injured. It happens. Suddenly he is the worst FA signing in Hawks history?”

    Agreed. There’s always overreaction around here to bad news, it’s our place to vent I guess. I’m not mad at Harvin for getting surgery. I honestly don’t believe that a guy in the prime of his career, finally playing for a SB contending team, actually wants to miss the season. I don’t think guys get to his level w/out being competitors, and so I believe the surgery is legit. Maybe I’m naive, but that’s what I think.

    And I’m not mad at the Hawks FO for the signing. He’s a playmaker, a rare thing in this league, and our guys saw the chance to get a difference-maker, and moved aggressively to get it done. We weren’t the only team interested in him, but we made it happen.

    I’m just mad at the situation. We’ve got this window where we could finally, finally maybe win it all – and anything that derails that hope, sucks for all of us long-time fans. Been more downs than ups, and this year has the feeling of something special.

    We’ll still be very good without him – nothing to do now, but cheer the guys that are out there and hope Harvin comes back in shape to contribute in the last chunk of the season.

  41. thursday says:

    Ok, nevermind coming here for sanity lol. Everyone’s on the “we hate Percy” bandwagon anyway. Considering he’s only missed three games before 2012, and the way he plays, I wouldn’t really call him injury prone, but I would want him to be 100%

    But wtvr. Haters gon’ hate.

  42. Singularitarian~ We haven’t even waited one offseason yet.

  43. wabubba67 says:

    With all that money and spare time, Percy should be educated enough upon his return to know the difference between “half” and “have”.

  44. I believe the offense will be perfectly fine, I’m just interested in who will be taking the kickoffs. Tate’s coming into his own which will free up Rice more and I think Baldwin has some fire in him to prove himself. I just hope Miller can shake off that nagging foot injury to start the season where he left off last year, that’s what worries me. Also Kearse and Williams sound like there doing something’s in camp and there’s still Harper out there who I haven’t really heard much of.

  45. JMSeaTown says:

    I’ve got a bad feeling in my stomach he won’t be back this year… The Dr. will find more serious damage which will result in a 6 month recovery. Ugh

  46. chuck_easton says:

    MNHawk,

    Well actually we only have him for five years now. He’s getting 14 million to redshirt this ear.

    It’s not like he’s going to give the team an extra year for free to make up for not playing in 2013.

    The team gave Harvin top dollar for six full seasons. Not five seasons and maybe, if they’re real lucky, 5 or so games this year.

    I’m not planning on seeing Harvin in a Seahawks uniform until August of 2014. Let’s see who’s prognosis comes out to be the correct one.

  47. Chuck~ You’re on. Lets hope your wrong…(gulp)

  48. raymaines says:

    OK, everybody that has ever sent an email, tweet or text with a typo please leave the room. Damn, it’s kind of lonely here. There’s just me and … who?

    And (#1) don’t you guys know that if you’re going to overreact, you have to do it in the first two hours? This is the information age. If you’re going to overreact you have to be quick about it. So OK, no more PH is a bust talk alright.

    And (#2) what the hell is Sidney Rice doing in Switzerland getting a non-surgical procedure done on his knee? Aren’t most VooDoo Priests in Louisiana, not Lucerne? I’m thinking Stem Cell, blood transfusion, Hydrogen Peroxide, K-Y Jelly…

    And (#3) can we all pray to whatever God we chose (can their be “God” of Atheism?) that Richard Sherman doesn’t get hurt or do anything especially stupid. The NFL world would never let us hear the end of that.

  49. Typo Ray. There instead of their. I suppose you were just supporting your point. Well played!

  50. chuck_easton says:

    Don’t know who this mythical Percy is that everyone keeps talking about. Has there ever been an actual sighting of this urban legend wearing a Seahawks uniform?

    Maybe he’s spending all his free time hanging out with Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, and the Easter bunny.

    I won’t believe this so called Seattle Seahawk player really exists until someone can show me video evidence of him playing a real live game for Seattle.

  51. Everybody’s right. But I agree with TChristensen. Let’s stop talking about him and his money. When he shows up to practice he can start to earn our comments. Right now there are 89 other guys that need our love.

    GO HAWKS!

  52. abqhwkfn says:

    Ive mentioned this in a previous thread and ill mention it again. A labrum tear in a young athlete is typically a sign of degenerative disease as opposed to a single traumatic event. In my opinion
    PH will endure chronic pain and limited range of motion to this hip throughout his career. I fear that for a player with his particular attributes, this is truly a debilitating condition

  53. Chuck, Over react much? But I’m sure you’re going off of that super secret heresay info Bobby gave you from people in the know right? How many games has Percy missed in his career? His stats say he missed 2 games before the Hawks gave him that high ankle sprain last year.

  54. raymaines says:

    So lets just pretend the Cap number is 115 million, OK?

  55. Harvins out. NEXT!!!, good opportunity for someone to step up or to get some experience while he is on the PUP.
    Rather he get it fixed now than be part of the offense and blow something out and be gone longer. Hope he can come back and be fresh and full speed in ime for the end of the season.
    Compete is what the Seahawks are all about so keep on Competing Boys

  56. Last I remember, we didn’t make it to the super bowl last year because we couldn’t stop Tony Gonzales. Percy Harvin wasn’t going to change that.

    We didn’t really need Harvin in Sept and October anyway. Let’s move on.

  57. bbnate420 says:

    Wow, Harvin the worst FA acquisition in the history of the Hawks before his first regular season here has even started. That’s pretty impressive. Must be a record. Especially since he wasn’t even a FA acquisition.

    Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I always chuckle when people anonymously question the toughness of NFL players from the safety of their keyboards.

    MNHawk, there’s no place for your patience and rationality here! ;-)

    Chuck, there is no real prognosis yet. Surgery has to have been completed before that can reliably happen. I can’t imagine seeing him on the field before week 11 at the very earliest. I just hope he can be 100 % when he comes back.

    Chancellor certainly did have a down year last year. He had a foot injury as well if I recall correctly. And it’s nonsense to assume that Harvin’s and Kam’s injuries were the same. They were in the same area. We have no idea of the severity. It’s okay to just not know something. We don’t need to make stuff up.

  58. CDHawkFan says:

    For those saying that we don’t need Harvin, or don’t need him until November. Didn’t most agree that home field is everything in the playoffs, that last year would have been different if the ALT game was in Seattle? Having Harvin the entire year would help secure home field advantage so to me having him out is a big deal. Home field would almost guarantee a trip to the show.

  59. chuck_easton says:

    Mocarob,

    Not overreacting at all. I’ll believe Harvin is coming back and will be ready to play when he actually shows up.

    So far every gut feeling I’ve had about how this would play out has come to pass.

    If you want to live in the land of happiness and sunshine that says everything will be just peachy then by all means go right ahead.

    I will say right now Harvin doesn’t see the field until December at the soonest, and he’s out for the first 11 games of the season. That is my best case scenario.

    If he makes it back sooner great, but I’m not holding my breath.

  60. I choose to believe that we are set up to be a juggernaut again at the end of the season. More fitty burger wins when we get all our pass rushers back, Clem, Irv, Scruggs, plus Percy Harvin! We are going to crush the other teams in our path and win our first Lombardi. If it’s meant to happen this year, it will happen no matter what.

  61. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    CDhawkfan, if the same offense shows up that ended the season we don’t need harvin to win home field. what we really need is the D that destroyed the 9ers to show up not the D in the last 30 seconds in atlanta.

  62. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    hey you all i am gone for the day try not to have too much fun without me

  63. Southendzone says:

    When I said worst FA Acquisition ever I knew it wasn’t right, its much worse than that.

    I only wish it was a FA acquisition because then we would only have to live with the salary cap implications and not with the knowledge that we gave Minn a kings ransom for a handful of magic beans.

    If Harvin was a real Seahawk at least I’d be trying to put a positive spin on things in my own head and hope for his return. At this point all the talk of him being a head case is gaining momentum.

    A real Seahawk is someone like Baldwin, ET, Wilson, Sherman, all guys working hard to make themselves and this team great. Harvin has shown nothing to this point for me to want to give him any benefit of the doubt that he cares one bit about being a real contributor to the Hawks. Couple that with a lot of talks about him being a malcontent, I can’t bring myself to put on the rose colored glasses this time.

    Good job on this one Minnesota.

  64. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “super secret heresay info” Lol Mocarob.

    And Chuck,
    So long as we have Russell Wilson we can live in the land of happiness and sunshine that says everything will be just peachy.

  65. CDHawkFan says:

    HawkOK, I hope you are right. Going back to the Atlanta game, a lot of us felt the ending was due to G. Bradley conservative style so maybe that situation won’t come up much this year. We need to finish the season at 12-4 or 13-3 to have a shot at home field throughout the playoffs. I just feel that Harvin might have changed a game or two (during his now 10+ weeks of recovery) by extending drives on his own talent or causing a match up distraction allowing others to extend drives. Ultimately either making the other team one dimensional (having to pass more), or keeping our D off the field.

    Those few extended drives or WOW plays that go to the endzone could be the difference of 13-3 vs 11-5 again. My comment was more to the folks that think Tate and Baldwin can just fill in and give us what Harvin was going to give us. If that was the case, PC/JS would not have traded the picks and made the $60 million investment this year, they obviously felt they needed him as they knew they had Baldwin/Tate under contract.

    His pending surgery will soon be history and we have to make the most of what we have, which like you said, should be enough. Unfortunately we now have to say ‘should’ be enough and not ‘will’ be enough.

  66. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i am good working on the road today just heading out the door.

    play nice guys, remember this not personal and we all love the hawks.

  67. chuck_easton says:

    Georgia,

    We have Wilson, Rice, Lynch, Tate, Miller, Baldwin, and an improved O-line.

    Not going to waste any more time on a guy who was never here and may or may not be here to produce and help the team win this year. Next man up.

    Best line I’ve heard which is now my final comment on the subject.

    “I tried to take my Harvin #11 jersey back to the store for a refund but it broke when I took it off the hanger”

  68. thursday says:

    Actually, yes, I personally saw Percy Harvin in a Seahawks uniform at the opening day of training camp. He came out later. ;p

  69. bbnate420 says:

    And the overreaction award goes to……….Southendzone.

    CDHawkFan, I don’t buy that we’re better off without him for much of the season. There’s a reason they brought him here, but he got injured. I believe it happens in football. We can either live with reality or waste our time wringing our hands and crying about it. I would rather have him for the last 4-5 regular season games and playoffs at 100 % if it is true that he could’ve played at 80 %. Plus, playing at 80 % increases the potential for worsening the hip in the future and injuries other areas due to overcompensation.

  70. 16 weeks recovery, assume that means 1-week without PT and by the end of week 16 he is still a week or two from football shape, so if he had the operation today he would be back mid-december(?)

  71. I would guess PT starts almost right away.

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