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Carroll: Hawks didn’t run up the score

Post by Eric Williams on Dec. 10, 2012 at 4:11 pm with 89 Comments »
December 10, 2012 4:11 pm

Despite the feeling from some league observers that the Seattle Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals were supposed to share orange slices and sing Kumbaya after Sunday’s 58-0 shellacking, Seattle head coach Pete Carroll said he does not feel like his team tried to run up the score.

Why? Carroll has plenty of experience playing from way ahead from the many times his teams at USC buried inferior opponents.

“What you’re trying to do is make first downs,” Carroll said. “You’re trying to get first downs and keep the football, with the sensitivity of the situation. And you know you’re going to run the football like crazy, which was awesome. We love to do that.

“So we got a lot of things done yesterday. And unfortunately on the other side, it was a very hard day for those guys. I get it.”

As Will Brinson of CBS Sports points out, the Seahawks only passed the ball 22 times against the Cardinals.

“I’m very clear about how you do it, and have done it a lot,” Carroll said. “I’ve been in games where we’re taking a knee at the end of the second quarter to get the clock ran out.

“So it’s a sensitive situation. I understand that. But we have a very clear way that we go about it. And we’re trying to really accomplish a lot of stuff in that situation, as well as just finishing the football game.”

Carroll said the main thing he wanted to accomplish was getting reserve quarterback Matt Flynn some play time in the second half.

“He handled himself fine,” Carroll said. “And he’s got enough action where he’s played now. And so it’s been a long time for him. So that was valuable in the long run of things.”

Carroll said his team for the most part is healthy, although backup safety Chris Maragos has a hamstring strain that will need to be monitored in practice this week.

Overall, Carroll was impressed with the play from young cornerbacks Walter Thurmond, Byron Maxwell and Jeremy Lane.

“For the first time out, and knowing the significance of it in the way we try and bring our young guys up, I was really fired up about it,” Carroll said. “So, in talking about Maxwell and Lane now, they both played well enough where I couldn’t tell the difference if one came out ahead of the other one. So that’s a really good sign for us.”

Carroll credited defensive back coaches Kris Richard and Rocky Seto for coaching up the young corners on their technique so they were ready when pressed into service.

The Seahawks might have to lean on the young corners some more, because Carroll said he does not know if Marcus Trufant will be back this week from a hamstring injury.

“He’s getting close,” Carroll said. “This was the week we thought he would come back.”

Carroll said that this is the best he’s seen linebacker Malcolm Smith play during the time he’s coached him. With Leroy Hill likely returning from an ankle injury, Carroll will have to make a tough decision on who starts at outside linebacker between the two.

“He kind of has a nose for the football,” Carroll said about Smith. “Things happen when he’s around it.”

In terms of the offensive linemen, Carroll mentioned J.R. Sweezy, Frank Omiyale and Lemuel Jeanpierre as guys who stood out in the second half.

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  1. It’s hilarious that people think because Matt Flynn was throwing deep that the Seahawks were trying to run up the score.

    Don’t they know that Flynn only has 2 passes he throws, the deep lob and the short cross/slant/dump off to the running back? He put everything he had on the ball to Rice and it took just long enough to get there that Rice was nearly knocked out for the season.

  2. NYHawkFan says:

    I’m glad that Carroll addressed this point. When you’re on the loosing end, the humiliation of being so thoroughly dominated in all aspects of the game leads you to conclude that they must be ‘rubbing our nose in it,’ since another score is unnecessary. However, Carroll’s explanation of trying to give Flynn more experience, and trying to get a first down in order to control the clock, makes total sense. To some, wins and losses is all that matters, but it is a sport after all, so good sportsmanship is important to the game.

  3. bbnate420 says:

    arbeenjo, This isn’t a political blog, so why don’t you take your BS elsewhere.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    Has nothing to do with the so-called “two passes” Flynn throws, but rather everything to do with getting him work in an actual game. Regardless, I don;t believe Carroll was running up the score either.

    And I’m very happy to see how Smith is playing as well. Based on what little we’ve seen of him in preseason, I’ve always been excited about his skill set. Hopefull the injuries are behind him and he can continue to improve.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Who’s arbeenjo?

  6. NYHawkFan says:

    Don’t know who arbeenjo is, but his post was deleted.

  7. The pass that’s drawing the most criticism was Flynn’s lob into the endzone which Moore(?) dropped. At least I think it was Moore who dropped it.

  8. Nice to see the backups on the line play well. If they can duplicate that against any other team, I will be a) surprised and b) thrilled to death.

    I like JeanPierre. I wanted to see him start at G this year, but they like him too much as a backup C I guess…

    I think Malcolm Smith just took Hills job. Carrol may start Hill, but Smith will play, and will OUTplay Hill. Nothing against Hill, he’s good, he’s just lacking the speed Smith delivers.

  9. Kris Richard is a great coach. Someday soon he’s gonna end up getting an interview for Defensive Coordinator somewhere. From a decent backup DB to a fine position coach, this guy is upwardly mobile.

  10. DanielleMND says:

    It was funny when the camera was on Whisenhunt when he three his arms up and said something like “why are they still throwing the ball?” Go home and console yourself with the Super Bowl ring Bill Leavey gave you.

  11. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    nate although kinda of an off topic rant to a degree ,he isn’t far from the truth in all honesty. neither here nor there it started with football tailed off into a comparison with society as a whole and took a poke at Obama. so what? not the first mix of the political on here won’t be the last.

  12. RDPoulsbo says:

    If anything, Arizona needs to give refunds to all of the fans at the CLink who paid good money to see a football game. The Cards were so bad, you couldn’t even do a cursory evaluation of the backup talent on the team. What they did yesterday was truly shameful to the game of football. That’s where all of the criticism should lie here.

  13. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    wow you guys are deleting posts now? after all the crap ACIB spewed on us all?

  14. hawkdawg says:

    Kearse dropped Flynn’s perfectly thrown ball into the endzone on 4th and 23. Tough catch to make, but great throw.

    And Flynn’s throw to Rice on the play Rice got hammered was right on the money, and got there in a hurry.

    Flynn played well. Even had a good escape on one play. From this game, at least, if Wilson goes down, we won’t be in big trouble, as lots of teams are.

  15. bbnate420 says:

    hawkfaninoklahoma, I think it was 90+ % off topic. I didn’t say something because it was purely off topic, I don’t care about that, but fishing for a political debate here is counter productive and can cause the blog to devolve IMO. There are places on this site and millions of places online to debate politics. This is a SEAHAWKS blog. Sometimes they are connected, but that was just a bog ole red herring. We’ll have less of that now that it’s going to be pay. One good thing about it.

  16. sluggo42 says:

    Lol, yes, there won’t be any politics discussed, there won’t be any seahawks discused at a pay per view blog either. Not too many people will be left period. I wish I would have seen it since it got bbnate so fired up, it must have been true… Lol

  17. sluggo42 says:

    Running the score up by running student body left, then student body right is just a sign of a team that quit. No apologies needed.

  18. RDPoulsbo says:

    I read it and thought it was inappropriate for a sports blog as well. It doesn’t really matter whether you agreed or not with the content of the post, it doesn’t belong here. I think the comments about the post prove it doesn’t belong. We’re not talking about the Seahawks because of his post, now are we?

  19. bbnate420 says:

    Very good point, RD. I didn’t agree with it, but that’s not why I commented. I would think it was BS to post it even if it was the most liberal thing in the world, if it had nothing to do with the Seahawks or the thread. I don’t want people coming on here and fishing to argue politics and religion. There are plenty of blogs to go argue that on, and I bet most are free.

    sluggo, you’re probably right that this is moot since there’s a good chance this blog is done after the 17th.

  20. When the other team coughs up the ball 8 times, how in heck are you going to avoid running up the score?

  21. bbnate420 says:

    P.S. I wasn’t fired up. I just think it’s lame. And it is different from someone like you that comes here and talks Hawks 99% of the time. This was a guy I have never seen before, and it seemed like he was just trolling for an argument.

  22. I guess this will be the last week I’ll be posting here, if a pay wall keeps me out. Paying $10 a month is okay if you read other stuff on this website, but just for this blog, it’s a little much, although I totally appreciate Eric’s and Dave’s posts, as well as most of the comments. I’m probably going to be on Field Gulls more — until they get a pay wall.

  23. bbnate420 says:

    I agree with that too, Canfan. I only really look at this and the M’s blog. Not worth 10$ if there are no other posters on it. If 90 % here was going to stay, I’d probably do it.

    I’m sure I am as guilty as anyone, but I guess I wish we had all clicked on the ads more. :-(

  24. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    if that was a problem they needed to say hey guys check out the adds more we need you help. seem to remember sando doing that to us back in the day.

    wow pats are tearing houston up

  25. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i mite pay 10 a year,. no way 10 monthly just not worth it.

  26. RDPoulsbo says:

    I think a better way to do this is to force a flash ad when you click on any blog entry or article if you’re not a paying customer. If you pay, log in and you bypass the ads. Paywalls just don’t work in the news business. The New York Times and Wall Street Journal both tried paywalls a few years back with bad results and both have a much bigger readership than the Tribune.

  27. montanamike2 says:

    Wow! Just when we started getting good too. I agree a dedicated blogger will pay about 1$ a month but most of us will move on, sad i’m going to miss this site.
    On a football note did we not play yesterday? I seem to remember a huge blowout but nothing mentioned on TV. I heard a lot about RG3′s injury and saw some highlights of other games but i swear not even a mention!

  28. Dukeshire says:

    One thing that’s hard to not notice, it that when the Pats are in third and passing situations, they nearly always throw it to the marker. They rarely rely on YAC to get the third. This along with simply wonderful execution, is why they are the league’s best in 3rd down conversion. I’d really like to see Seattle rely less on YAC for their third down conversions, in passing situations, and complete it to the distance.

  29. sluggo42 says:

    It’s too bad, tis a good blog, lots of respect to differing opinions too for the most part. Why does everything good get ruined by money?

  30. Is this pay thing true? Out of left field for me, but could be a godsend. I spend too much time reading this blog as it is. It’s a great blog, but making it cost will be the excuse I need for letting it go.

    If I don’t see any of you – you’re great commentators, all of you!

    Game ball to RaDEon for changing his mind with grace.

  31. Dukeshire says:

    The newspaper industry as we’ve come to know it is dying. Sign of the times.

  32. sluggo42 says:

    Montana, I watched the nfl channel and other a lot today too, and not one whisper about the hawks… I guess they are paying Pete back for running it up… Sigh…

  33. montanamike2 says:

    I know it’s as if the game disappeared.

  34. montanamike2 says:

    I really believe that Pete wasn’t running up the score, i wanted to see Flynn but he and the scrubs couldn’t help an epicly bad team from coughing up the ball over and over after they folded about 2-3 minutes into the game.

  35. DanielleMND says:

    Once this becomes a pay site, I’m gone. I can’t justify paying for it.

  36. SeahawkMarsh says:

    Hey all…long time listener, first time caller. Couple things – bummer about the pay to use, this legendary blog is all but finished. Eric, please push those above you to reconsider.

    I moved to the Bay Area this past summer, and I’ve been listening to Niners radio a lot lately while driving to work. Today really made me smile. I’ll tell you what, niners fans are really getting nervous about us! I’d go so far as to say the majority of the people on today had just about all but conceded the division to the hawks. Now, I’m a cautiously very optimistic, but I’m a little concerned the hawks will do what they do sometimes and lay an egg. Sure hope not. But I think it’s safe to say, even if the rest of the national media hasn’t taken notice, the niners clearly have.

  37. Ewalters7354 says:

    Well guys I’ll enjoy this blog until the deadline.Peace, love and happiness.

  38. Paywall? I must have missed that. That’s lame. I run a blog with about 100K subscribers and a user community of about the same. Creating barriers to your audience is a losing proposition.

    The news industry and their paywalls are so 1990′s, especially a smaller paper like the TNT. They need to find ways to keep readers/viewers and not shut them out. :)

    In either case, I’m excited about the SF game. Hoping Seattle beats the Bills and SF loses to NE. The CLINK will be rocking.

  39. DanielleMND says:

    I’d love to see us be able to run up the score against the 49ers.

  40. sluggo42 says:

    I hope the boys forget this game yesterday, and realize the bills would like nothing better to dump us into the dumpster. The problem with this is they will get big heads, and big heads get cracked easier…

  41. Dukeshire says:

    I originally posted this in the previous thread but is probably better suited here:

    I for one will pay, at least through the end of the season. Especially if they make a deep run in the playoffs, it would suck to not share that with all of those that I’ve come to know here. But honestly, $124.40 a year, which is what it will cost, seems a little strong to me. And I probably wouldn’t feel that way if this were the only “frivilous” expense I have. But it all adds up. I’m not saying I won’t necessarily do it, but it will take some real consideration. The idea of having to head over to Field Gulls is not ideal, despite the fact I like Danny Kelly, or some other site for that matter.

  42. Ding Dong this blog is dead. Or about to be.

    To all those who regularly comment, all those who used to, and all those who only occasionally comment or just hover, Im going to miss y’all. In the back of my mind, Ive always hoped someone would start a big TNT get together in Seattle for a Hawks game and a few brews, and somehow Id cross two states and make it there and meet all the folks who argue/discuss/rant about my beloved Seahawks…damn.

    Now I will have to go back to driving my wife nuts with over-analyzing all things Seahawks…probably not going to improve my marital situation lol!

  43. guywhothinksheknowsitall says:

    If I’m going to pay for sports coverage I would rather get espn insider to make it more worth my money with their broader coverage. It’s a shame they have to make people pay, I really am going to miss lurking this blog.

  44. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    when is the deadline?

  45. Dukeshire says:

    I believe it’s the 17th, week from today.

  46. DanielleMND says:

    I’ve enjoyed this place. I’ve been lurking and occasionally posting since the Sando days. Sucks that’ll come to an end next week.

  47. Dukeshire says:

    The timing of this all is poor too. There will be those who simply can’t afford the $10 this time of year. That sucks, and I feel for them. It’s one thing to make a choice based on principle, not being able to afford it is another thing altogether.

  48. Ewalters7354 says:

    In most cases grown folks should be able to pay 10 bucks without missing bills and all that.Though I understand how times get.But to have to pay monthly just to read and comment just doesn’t sit well with me.I admit I’m kinda upset by the timing.But it is what it is.

  49. If we are throwing the ball to Evan Moore it isn’t running the score up. That dude can’t catch.

  50. JazBadAzz says:

    You got that right pope
    What do you guys mean pay site?

  51. bbnate420 says:

    I’d be pissed if I was a subscriber to the paper and they expected me to pay another 2.50 a month to use the site. I wouldn’t mind paying a little a month, I understand that even if they were a non-profit that they have to pay their bills. I probably would even pay the 10 if a lot of people were going to stick around, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the case. I would bet that if they reorganized their business model that they could offer the site for a better price. Making money selling newspapers is dead. Just a matter of time.

    P.S. We are still going to be able to read 15 stories a month, so we don’t have to completely ditch the site. It just won’t be the same. Also, I’m going to try and throw out my chocolate chip cookies to see if that gets around the problem, wink wink.

  52. RDPoulsbo says:

    The mistake the upper management is making here is news is a business of information and the internet is a medium of free flowing information. There’s just no incentive for readers to pay for information they could otherwise get from free sites. There might be a few that pay, but it’s not going to make up for the loss of revenue from readers that view ads here as a free site.

    What makes this a great blog is not just the posts from the reporters, but the community of posters that contribute organically to the overall discussion. The paywall is going to kill off that community that took years to build.

  53. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Here it is almost 8am Eastern time and I will have to wait another 2-3 hours to get the morning links when I can simply get them,(and I do) myself. The most frustrating thing to me about this blog,(up until now)is that I have to wait 3 hours before Seahawk talk starts rolling, and it’s all because of the time zone.
    Many times I have wanted to just start posting several Seahawk links myself each morning for those that don’t want to wait, but out of respect of Eric and Dave I don’t,( except for the occasional one or two).

    I think this pay thing will hurt the folks that don’t live on the west coast more, simply because of the time zone and not living in the area . All we pretty much care about is the blog, we have our own local news to be concerned with.
    IMO It’s the Bloggers here that makes this blog special from other blogs. And It’s Eric that gives us the freedom to do it.
    It’s the old timers, new comers, debates, arguments, fights, making up the next day, funny comments, and drunk rants that help make this blog what it is. Oh, and there is some pretty good Seahawk stuff here too.

    I don’t know how this 15 stories a month thing works but I will stay here until I have to pay. If I only can get on a few times a month so be it, but if I can’t then I’m a firm believer that when doors shut new ones open.
    Can I afford it? yes. Will I pay? No. At my age time is more important then money and we are not just readers here, we contribute our time, energy and thoughts to this blog.
    Call me cheap or whatever but I seriously doubt this pay thing will work for very long. and it certainly won’t help much paying anyones salary.
    It will be an interesting experiment though.

  54. GeorgiaHawk says:

    We will see what the 49ers are made of in the next two weeks playing on the road against arguably the two hottest teams in the NFL and the two hardest teams to beat on the road.

    Will they implode?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8733940/brandon-jacobs-suspended-san-francisco-49ers-final-3-games

  55. GeorgiaHawk says:

    nate, Did you flag arbeenjo? Not saying you did but I hope it wasn’t you because you have had your share of off Seahawk related comments in the past.

    Just saying.

  56. Southendzone says:

    BBNATE: Totally agree with you. If you’re a delivery subscriber you should get the online for free. That $2.50 is a slap in the face to the old-schoolers who get a paper each morning.

  57. RDPoulsbo says:

    Just an FYI, the 15 views per month route is very easy to get around. Just clear your cookies everytime the site blocks you. Use a separate web browser if you want to keep your cookies for other things. Or if you don’t want to clear cookies at all, you get 15 views for every web browser you have. So if you have Opera, Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and IE on your computer, that’s 60 views a month.

    Like I said, the internet by it’s nature gives free flow of information. They’d be much better off with revenues if they went with flash ads everytime you clicked on an article, similar to what happens when you watch highly viewed videos on Youtube. It doesn’t block the information with a paywall and readers can’t ignore the ads.

  58. Hammajamma says:

    Hope EW can find a gig with better access. I’ll miss his writing. The pay per view news model has been discredited long ago. I supposed some people get sucked into that ESPN insider nonsense, but there is too much free content available to justify paying for this, regardless of how dedicated you are to a particular news outlet.

    So long TNT. It’s been fun.

  59. GeorgiaHawk says:

    RDPoulsbo- When you say 15 views what does that mean? Does that mean? you can log on 15 times, comment 15 times, read an article 15 times, or all of the above?

    If we were to log on and comment several times on a thread with someone else does that count as one view? several views? Can you break it down in the most simple way for us almost computer illiterate folks?

  60. RDPoulsbo says:

    I have no idea how the Tribune will do it, but there’s sometimes a time window that won’t count as a separate view, so commenting or refreshing a page won’t count separately. It could mean any 15 article or blog entries in a month you could return to without it counting against you.

    I guess we’ll have to wait until they tell us exactly how it’s going to work, but I’ve been using the separate browser trick for other sites for years. The only thing that sucks is you have to log back in everytime you clear your cookies.

  61. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Thanks RDPoulsbo, good info.

    From- nate throwing out his chocolate chip cookies.
    To- RDPoulsbo clearing out his cookies.

    It looks like this is all coming down to how you handle your cookies.

  62. montanamike2 says:

    I really love this blog and wanted to meet many of you and talk Hawks or watch a game. After sleeping on it i’d pay 2-3 bucks a month for a site that has no trolls. I used to go to field gulls a lot but ESPN insider is a joke where they often just make up a bunch of shit to have articles. I’ll probably do like Duke and stay until the end of the season if we make a run. Ever since my Ft. Lewis days in the early, early 90′s i have been reading the TNT and found the food and movie reviews good as well, I’m now 800 miles away and can’t justify
    the need. If it’s affordable i’ll stay, but 10$ a month seems like they want to lose this blog.

  63. montanamike2 says:

    I once got slapped across the face for complimenting a woman over her cookies.

  64. Why are people whinning about running up the score, is this NFL or pop warner? They are all paid professionals aren’t they. When did society become such pussies, oh yeah, I can’t wait for them to take away kick offs and returns. I believe Marshal Faulk said something along the line of, I hope this generation doesn’t turn this game into something that I never played. Also, what’s with all these text book hits being called fouls just because they are big, the one on Dez earlier in the day and the one on Rice, both clean, F’n ridiculous. Though, Flynn can’t make that throw to Rice, As a QB, you can’t set your #1 reciever up like that, loved how he popped up after it though.

  65. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    you all know we could probably take over seahawk addicts site and use it as a forum for us all to get together and talk hawks. just an idea, have to say i will miss the convo on here.

  66. montanamike2 says:

    I was on Addicts for a while then it became an afterthought with all the good stuff over here, maybe a mass migration will help but there’s only half a dozen posters that rarely show up there. this is a year round blog.

  67. I pay for on-line subscription to the New York Times and have no problem with that. But it is generating original content from its own reporters all over the world. TNT repackages and resells content. I doubt I would read anything but this blog if I signed up for TNT’s service. Most of the interesting content on this blog comes from the more knowledgeable posters, so why would I pay to read something that does not even come from TNT?

    TNT will have to amp up the quality if we are paying for this. Add an edit feature. Make the blog posts threaded. Personalization.

    I get the need to do this, but the value has to be there to attract a paying consumer base.

  68. I’d pay a smaller fee to hang in on this blog – mostly for the interaction with Eric (and the other writers), and all of you. But $10/month is high. I understand the economics of it from TNT’s perspective – but in a world of free online information, that’s not very competitive.

    I’ve been here since the Sando days as well, and will miss it.

  69. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Keep the good ideas rolling hawkfaninoklahoma/Montanamike2.

    This is the only blog I have ever participated on, and I hope it doesn’t come down to it, however I’m game for change if necessary. Seahawks addicts? Hmm….

    BTW- Why the sudden deleting of posts on this thread? Seems I have heard far more hostile things in the past, and from the very same folks that are complaining about comments now. Strange.

  70. mojjonation says:

    It seems the only time the Hawks get play is when something bad happens. ESPN and its blatant east coast and darling team bias can pretty much shove it. According to them, if you aren’t in the NFC East or NFC North, you don’t deserve print. If you don’t play for the Colts, New England, Pittsburgh, or any team Peyton Manning plays for, you don’t belong in football. They have got such a hard on for RG3 and Luck, you’d swear no one else was drafted after number two of the first round. Well you know what, we beat NE, three out of four NFC North teams (and we were ahead of the fourth), crushed Dallas, and are moving like a runaway beer truck on a steep hill.

    So if negative press is the only press we can get, then great. The next team that walks into the CLINK and gets mangled will “lose” since we obviosuly can never “win”. Again, that’s OK. We here in South Alaska know the truth.

    I used to be a full time subscriber to the paper. Then I went to Fridays, weekends, and holidays. Then when they screwed that up enough, I cancelled my subscription altogether. And as much as I comment on a wide range of topics, I just won’t pay $10 to do it. It’s been great seeing the variety of comments and places people live show up here. If we don’t meet up in real time, I’m sure we can all do it in spirit. In the words of RDub…GO HAWKS!!

  71. Dukeshire says:

    Without having read the post in question (it was deleted before I read it), sounds as if it was all troll and designed to incite conflict. If that is the case, I have no problem with it being deleted. And Eric has show extraordinary lenience when it comes to allowing inflammatory posts in the past, so I think we can safely presume it was out of line.

    And as far as I’m aware, that is the only post that’s been deleted in this post, and certainly one of only a small hadful at most, that’s been taken down in many months or years.

  72. I actually read the post and it was exactly as Duke described. It really had no relevance to football and the blog would have veered into an ugly tangent if the post stayed up.

  73. Just dont TOSS your cookies guys! Ha!

    I agree that the commenters here make the blog what it is–Eric is great, and I dont want to take anything away from him, but he could do the same thing and if even half of the usual contributors bailed this site would be a shadow of itself. This community has taken 7 years to build, and has survived almost being ruined by an inept blogger and infighting among commenters, then rose from the ashes due to the guiding hand of Eric Williams and the regular commenters.

    TNT is going to destroy this community that has taken so long to build, and it wont be easy to put it back together. And it wont ever be what it is now unless and until its free again. I expect them to either keep it a paid site until it withers and is shut down, or else to realize the error of their ways and make it free again within 3 months–problem with that is that after a few months, most folks will have moved on and wont be coming back…it only takes a month or so to destroy what took 7 years or more to build…

    You listening TNT?!

  74. I propose that everyone here try Seahawkaddicts. Perhaps guys like Dukeshire, BobbyK, Sluggo, heck even bbnate and RADEoN can get access to post threads and articles there. It wont be the same without Eric, but Matthew Huett is a good dude and an excellent writer, he just needs help as he doesnt have the time to make a TNT style blog.

    That place was by far the best Hawk blog for years, until it withered due to technical difficulties and a lack of time and input from the guys running it. It could be again.

  75. SandpointHawk says:

    This pay per view model is old and a failure to boot. The Spokesman Review tried it five years ago and scrapped it after a year. The newspaper business has been more about selling ads than news content for years now. The subscribers do not pay the bills, the ad sales do. The Spokesman has gone to local ads for it’s web edition. They now are up to five people selling ads for the internet edition, the same amount as sell for the the print edition. It seems TNT and their parent company has not captured it’s users demographic. Think about not just the ones who post here, but have you ever noticed how many will answer the polls that are posted. It always amazes me the amount of lurkers this blog gets. Maybe they just hired a media consultant who is older than me…
    I will miss the bits and pieces of info we get from the locker room, that’s what first held my interest back with Sando, and yes, like so many I lurked for a year or two before posting. I will miss Eric and Dave also, but I can find their work in the chains other papers as well as my 15+ views here depending on how that shakes out…But I ramble…See you all later.

  76. GeorgiaHawk says:

    pabuwal- Agree, however I have seen far worse like wanting our Franchise QB to get injured, or the relentless, almost malicious ongoing rants about Jackson. I just hope those kind of posts get deleted in the future too.

  77. I also will pay for the rest of the season, I like the idea of seahawk addicts at one time it was a good site. I feel everyone will search all the blogs and end up on the best free site probably

  78. RDPoulsbo says:

    SandpointHawk is correct. It’s about the ad sales, not subscriptions. Especially with the paper, the costs basically just cover the physical material of the paper and ink with a little left over. The ads pay for the vast majority of the other costs like salaries and facilities. It’s inevitable that news will eventually become all digital, but that doesn’t mean you can carry over a legacy pay model from physical newspapers. In fact, the pay model cuts far into the real money of ad sales because it shuts out the viewers companies want to place advertising to begin with.

    Sadly, this probably means more traffic driven to the Seattle Times which quite frankly doesn’t have a very intelligent blogging community. I also don’t really care for Danny O’Neil and especially Steve Kelley’s writing to begin with.

  79. Georgia – you are referring to football rants which have a place on a football blog. Political rants really don’t.

  80. GeorgiaHawk says:

    pabuwal- So your saying so long as it’s related to football anything goes.
    There’s a difference between a rant and malicious comments regardless of the topic.
    And before someone says I’m defending politcal topics being on this blog, I am not.

  81. There should be a lot of leeway for football related comments and zero leeway for political comments.

  82. thursday says:

    to echo everyone else, definitely will not be paying. there is very little on this site that can’t be found elsewhere…for free. sucks, because reading the comments on this blog was half the fun. oh well, seahawks.com it is.

    last night’s game gives me quite a lot of hope for the Niners falling to the Pats. they’re just too good in december at home and they have at least two other AFC teams to stay on top of for that first round bye. if they can destroy the texans like that, i feel like they can do damage to the Niners as well. i also kinda feel like the Niners could be struggling a little bit and it’s not going to take too much more to reveal their weaknesses.

  83. GeorgiaHawk says:

    pabuwal-Example? Where would you draw the line regarding football?

  84. If I were buying ads from the Trib, I wouldn’t be happy about losing all the viewers.

    Thanks for everything Eric. You have done an outstanding job and look forward to reading your stuff at a new site soon.

    Long time lurker, seldom poster, dedicated Seahawks fan.

  85. rramstad says:

    Big fan of Seahawks.NET

    Will have to check out Seahawksaddicts and Field Gulls, never have

    I think the timing on the paywall is particularly bad for Seahawks fans, just as the season is really heating up with the prime time 49ers game (hopefully for the division lead). People who leave now due to not wanting to spend the $$ won’t be back… it’s a long off season and everyone will get different habits before August 2013.

  86. I think another thing we really don’t know well enough yet is if our depth-guys, like Flynn, O-linemen, and DBs, can move the chains well-enough to run up the score when we’re on the road almost anywhere…like Buffalo and obviously SF. Because that’s what the 49ers are already showing they can do, and we aren’t going really anywhere much if we can’t get past playing at SF. Winning home games like the Patriots is good and important, but winning on the road back east somewhere up north in the cold and snow always seems to separate them that has it and them that don’t finally. And I’d like to see this Carroll period become an era that lasts for more than a season or two but year after year of depth and dominance later in the season. Like the Patriots and Packers, has anyone really counted the Giants out this year yet…I don’t think so, nor should they.

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