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OC Bevell on airing it out: “We’re a running team.”

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm with 51 Comments »
November 28, 2012 4:31 pm

Seahawk offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell has heard a steady diet of this question most of this season – when are you going to open up the offense?

Well, apparently he’d had enough, because Bevell was the most animated I’ve seen during his weekly interview session every Wednesday.

“I don’t know if that just means throwing it all over the place, and throwing it 15 times in a row,” Bevell said. “If that’s what it means – probably not.

“It’s not who we are. We’re not New England. We’re not going to turn it into – unless you’re down 20 points – where you’re just going to throw it 20 times in a row.”

Bevell said it plainly – Seattle’s identity is pounding the football on the ground, and that’s not changing as long as Marshawn Lynch is on Seattle’s roster.

“We are a running team,” he said. “And we run the ball well, but it sets up a lot of other things for us. And I mean to have Marshawn and be able to put the ball in front of him, it helps a lot of things.

“Rather than just having Russell (Wilson) just drop back three, five, seven steps and have our guys just stand there and protect, that’s brings other issues on that may start to show up. When you establish the run, or you’re known for the running game, now you have all the different types (of throws).

“You have the movement game where we get him (Wilson) out on the edge. We have play-action passes, where we put it in front of Marshawn and try to get them to react to the run, and then get shots and things over their heads. And the protection a lot of times gives you a little more time to be able to do that. So it’s just kind of the philosophy of who we are.”

Bevell did say that he likes how Wilson is moving within the pocket, and feels like he’s developed a better pocket presence over the course of the season.

“I think Russ just gets better each and every time he’s out there,” Bevell said. “He grows with situations. It usually only has to happen once to him, and he learns from it. And the next time you see him make an improvement on it.

“He’s leaving the pocket with merit. For example, when the free safety (against Miami) ran right through the gap, he flipped out to his left side and threw it down to Sid –what a great play.

“But then there’s been other times when we’ve said – just sit there. You don’t have to go anywhere. Your guy might not be open, but there’s still a pocket there, and the guys are working it, so work the pocket. And he’s been able to do that.”

On the injury front, LB Leroy Hill (ankle) and DE Red Bryant (foot) did not practice today. RB Marshawn Lynch (back) and DL Greg Scruggs (oblique) were limited.

For Chicago, LB Lance Briggs (ankle), TE Kellen Davis (ankle), WR Devin Hester (concussion), WR Alshon Jeffery (knee), G Chris Spencer (knee) and CB Charles Tillman (ankle) did not practice.

RB Matt Forte (ankle) was limited, and DT Stephen Paa (shoulder) and OG Edwin Williams (shoulder) were full participants.

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  1. sluggo42 says:

    Derrr…

    Way to try to set up the bears…. Now you are going to pass first..

    Mind games……

  2. sluggo42 says:

    Unless he was serious….. Then we are in trouble

  3. Yeah cuz the Bears don’t know we’re a running team?

  4. Ewalters7354 says:

    Well, no playoffs for the hawks this year.

  5. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Ewalters7354- Agree if that’s what this joker is implying. Lol.

  6. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Bears….please put 10 guys in the box. We’ll never throw it….really. Besides, Marshawn loves slamming into walls. We’re not the Patriots….really? Seemed to work that game.

  7. freedom_X says:

    He’s right. They are a running team. Throwing isn’t their core competency. Anyone who thinks Seattle has the personnel to throw like New Orleans, New England, and Green Bay is delusional.

    Is that bad? Why? San Francisco is a running team. Chicago is a running team. It doesn’t mean Seattle can’t throw at all. If the running game is strong, they just need the passing game to be a viable changeup and alternate threat, the way SF and Chicago are set up.

    But I don’t think Seattle can sustain any game plan where they’re throwing on 60% or more of the plays, and throwing mostly intermediate to deep passes.

    Everyone wants to throw deep when we lose. But if we lose because of misfires throwing deep, then everyone will mewl about how we ignored our leading run game, and didn’t use Marshawn Lynch enough.

    I’ve got news for the people – just because you want to throw deep doesn’t mean you can. Just because you call lots of long passes doesn’t mean they get completed.

    To be clear, I’m not saying Seattle can never throw deep, which of course they can. Bevell isn’t saying this either. But at this time, Seattle’s long passing game is going to be set off of play action. They don’t have the ability to do otherwise. Forcing a long passing game is just going to turn 24-21 losses into 28-13 losses.

  8. montanamike2 says:

    Bad to hear about Bryant, the fine on Earl that totally affected the outcome was the salt on the wound and Bevell not wanting to change it up
    is even more icing on the cake of a day. This week sucks.

  9. montanamike2 says:

    Not disagreeing with you Freedomx, just kind of pissed right now.

  10. I’m with Bevell here – kind of.

    There are times when the running game isn’t working and they should at least mix up the tendencies. Why not pass on first down and run on second down? Why does first down ALWAYS have to be a pass? At least he has allowed Wilson to throw more in the red zone – which accounts for why their red zone success has been incredible the last 4 games.

    There are other times when the running game isn’t working and they should be willing to go 65% pass and 35% run.

    Then there is the reality that this Defense isn’t going to stop anyone on the road in the fourth quarter, unless that QB is John Skelton or Sam Bradford. How do the Seahawks compensate for the fact that no one score lead is safe on the road with this defense? The only way is to have a two score lead and it doesn’t sound like they are willing to take the risks that go with it.

    So yeah, it’s possible this team slides to 8-8 and there will be no playoffs or even no winning season.

  11. Ewalters7354 says:

    freedom, nobody is saying throw it a bunch.Just mix up the damn playcalling.Run, run, throw will not get it done.Maybe it works for LSU but it doesn’t work at this level.Frisco is a running team, but they mix it up.So do the Bears.Most of us are smart enough to know that they won’t change the philosophy.But these predictable ass plays will get this team no where.

  12. bbnate420 says:

    I was fine with them running it through 3 quarters when it wasn’t working. There have been a number of games where the running game broke out in the 2nd half this year. Lynch and the O-line wear a defense down. I do have a problem with the ultra-conservative calls he made once they got to the 40 on the last drive. RW was moving the ball through the air. Keep throwing. Or at least call an option run so RW can run with it if they bite down on Lynch. That said, I’m sure Bevell knows more about offense than I will ever know.

  13. bbnate420 says:

    Briggs and Tillman being out would be a big boost to us.

  14. Singularitarian says:

    We have the fewest passing attempts in the nfl, and the 3rd most rushing attempts behind Houston and the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS! (who we are not) San Fran averages 5.4 yards per rush to our 4.2. and Chicago? Chicago? They are a piss poor offense, who is on pace for more turnovers for touchdowns on defense than any team ever (lucky). They have beaten one team with a winning record and that was Indy in WEEK 1, you remember Indy, the team who had the number 1 pick the year before and were starting a rookie in his first nfl game ever. Chicago will be a wild card, one and done team. They will head into NYG, Green Bay, or San Fran and get mopped up and spit out, and it won’t be close, gaurenteed. Houston and San Fran are the only good run first teams, San Fran being a better defense and averaging 1.2 yards a carry more than us. Houston has the 10th most passing yards and 101 more passing attempts than us, with arguably an equal defense
    What I’m saying is our statistics look like that of a .500 football team, cram the ball over and over for 4 yards a pop and throw the ball less than any other team. But hey, at least we’re not getting blown out of the games that we’re losing anyway, right?

    The Coaching sucks on this team, a pair of opened eyes would take them a long way

  15. Singularitarian says:

    ohh and I can’t get a stat, but I’d gaurantee we throw the ball 20% less than the next lowest team inside the 30

  16. freedom_X says:

    I don’t see where Bevell said Seattle was just going to run on 1st and 2nd and throw on 3rd, if they had to. I don’t see anything where Bevell even hints at the composition of his playcalling script next week.

    All he said was they probably won’t throw it 15 times in row. Which I believe, and agree with. Thus, I have a hard time figuring out how that statement == trouble or no playoffs.

  17. “He’s right. They are a running team. Throwing isn’t their core competency. Anyone who thinks Seattle has the personnel to throw like New Orleans, New England, and Green Bay is delusional.”

    I agree. when the run game is working, we are a significantly more effective team. and more often than not this year, it’s worked pretty well.

    Still, got to know when it’s not your day sometimes, as against Miami, and be flexible in your plan.

  18. sluggo42 says:

    That’s the deal pd, ya got to be able to see what’s happening, and react instantly, to have flexibility. Not to continue on the same path. They should have been able to see that they needed to adjust, brut they didn’t . No back up plans…

  19. bbnate420 says:

    I shudder to think what the result would be if some of the armchair coaches on this blog actually had to coach the Hawks. There’s a reason he gets paid millions of dollars to coach and you post your hypotheses on a blog. I’m not saying that I’d do any better. Just tired of the constant whining about the coaching. Call Seahawks Headquarters and let them know you want PC fired.

  20. Ewalters7354 says:

    He didn’t say it but in games that’s exactly what he does! Are we watching the same team here? Obviously not.

    It = trouble because teams are
    stacking the box, knowing this team will force feed the run.The way to help out the run game is to keep the defense honest.Bevell doesn’t do that often.But when he does,we see how successful this offense is.Miami is a prime example.Once we started throwing, that team was on it’s heels about to fall on their backs and the run game started getting positive yards.But before they could fall, Bevell reverted back
    to the calls that weren’t successful.If that doesn’t mean trouble, I don’t know what does.

  21. bbnate420 says:

    I agree that it seems they could be more flexible and adaptive sometimes. Hopefully, they learn to be as they trust the players more and the players reenforce that trust by doing their jobs. The Hawks really had no business winning that game on Sunday, even though they should’ve if that BS roughing the passer call wasn’t made. No team that gets dominated on both lines like that could expect to have kept it ny closer.

  22. You can make the case that because Washington scored a TD on the next kickoff that the roughing the passer penalty was somewhat mitigated. Although it did put the Defense right back on the field.

    But this Defense wasn’t going to stop anyone in the 4th quarter. I think the Dolphins only had to convert 1 or 2 third Downs on their scoring drives.

  23. bbnate420 says:

    We don’t know what would’ve happened if the INT had stood for sure. We know it still would’ve been 14-7, and the offense would’ve had it at the 20. They were moving the ball okay at the time. I think they probably would’ve drove for some points and took the momentum. They could’ve just as easily thrown an INT or fumbled for a TD though. I think the play was a bit of an emotional letdown.

  24. I don’t mind the fact that we are a running team – BUT at times, we are the worst possible type of running team -Predictable.

    In our section during games the guys around me can predict plays at like a 70% rate for good portions of games! If we can – SO CAN THE OTHER TEAMS.

    So frustrating to me that in the scripted plays, which are rarely predictable – we move the ball decently and then for 2 quarters we are stimied then all of a sudden we can move the ball again.

    ARG!!!

  25. sluggo42 says:

    Bev should make hhis plan,then do the opposite each time. Maybe a pooch punt on second down, stuff like that. Just quit the left off tackle, right off tackle. Draw, punt.

    What game was it a few weeks ago, where we opened up with quite a few passes in a row, then started to run, and it totally threw the other team way off? Lets come out throwing, THEN cut the beast loose, and then start throwing here and there.. Give Em something they aren’t expecting, cuz lets face it, they are stacking on us right now, and we need to make Em pay. Russ has proven he can throw well. Ue it!

  26. “You keep using that word, but I dont think it means what you think it means”.

    Bevell is a clueless idiot who has no business running an NFL offense. By all means Darrel, keep up the conservative playcalling and keep trying to run it 60% of the time, ESPECIALLY when its not working…you’ll coach your stupid ass out of a job and out off this team…which cant happen fast enough for me, let me tell you!

    The line isnt blocking well enough for us to run such a conservative offense, and the defense is not playing well enough, for us to win by scoring 20 points a game. What does that mean? It means, either the Hawks figure out how to put 23 points a game on the board the two runs and a bubble screen way, or they OPEN UP THE DAMNED PASSING GAME, and make use of the 16 million dollars a year plus they have invested in stars like Rice, Tate, and Miller.

    I want this guy out of here even more than I wanted them to fire Knapp and Mora…

  27. You dont have to run 60% of the time to open up the deep ball, or the passing game in general. You dont have to run on first down every time. You just have to make them respect the run–which we arent doing, despite running Lynch into walls endlessly. We’re losing sticking to the run and using the same tired chicken-shit pass plays.

    You dont have to throw the ball deep all the time to have a passing game either. What I see from Bevell is crappy throws of under 5 yards, or routes that are 15 yards or longer. What about in between?!

    These idiots are trying to run a High School offense and beat the entire NFL by running the ball 30 times a game…as Ive said before, that only works if you have a roster very much better than your opponents; and that isnt possible in todays NFL with the parity brought about by the Salary Cap…Does Carrol even understand that?!

    No one thinks the Hawks should throw the ball 30 times a game every week, but even the idiots at the bar who admit they dont know much about football are laughing at how easy it is to guess what the Hawks are gonna do on any given play…The opposing teams are laughing too.

    If the Redskins can put up huge numbers with mediocre WR’s, a nothing RB, and not much on the O-line, Seattle should be doing better. But we’re not. Why? Because old washed up Shanahan and his kid OC maybe arent so washed up after all, and they are better coaches than the fools running our team…

  28. There is nothing wrong with being a running team, but if thats all you have, or you stubbornly stick with it when it isnt working, you are not an NFL-worthy coach. Seattle may not have the talent to put up Patriot or GB passing numbers, but I dont see why they cant be in the top 10 in both running and passing. At least the top15 in passing with the talent they have.

    Whatever, play the string out Bevell and Carrol, eventually 7-9/9-7 with all this talent wont cut it and perhaps THEN we will see a real NFL offense.

    I cant believe there are people that think our coaches are doing a good job with the talent they have. It doesnt take a rocket scientist or another NFL coach to see they are bumbling and clueless and are failing….

  29. richardfg7 says:

    Ya he’s a goof. You got a QB completing 75% of his passes and when the games on the line he runs the ball into the same brick wall that hasn’t moved all day.FIRE THIS DING-BAT PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. RDPoulsbo says:

    It seems a lot of people here failed the class on offensive football strategy. Which is surprising considering we talk about it more here than any other Seahawk blog. Bevell just described an Erhardt-Perkins offense, the 2nd most popular offense in the NFL and most popular in the Northeast to help deal with adverse weather conditions. It’s also something Wilson ran at Wisconsin and more fresh in his mind than the WCO he ran in NC.

    This is not about individual plays to armchair QB. It’s about overall strategy to set up the big plays even when the called play has a low percentage chance of succeeding. A perfect example is a run up the middle by the RB with a fake reverse. On it’s own, it’s a crappy play design because you just added another defender (CB) to the box with no additional blockers. The OC is really looking to see if the opposite CB and LB are paying attention. If not, then you’re likely to see a real reverse sometime later in the game.

    It’s the game within the game. People know Seattle’s going to run the ball, so it’s a matter of picking the right time to torch them over the top. It doesn’t work so well, when the defense is thinking the same thing.

  31. RDPoulsbo says:

    richardfg7: Have you thought that Wilson is completing a high percentage because the defense is thinking heavy run most of the time?

  32. CDHawkFan says:

    Eric, everyone jumps on Bevell, but I thought more of the play calling is done through Cable and Pete C.

    Going through a game, how much falls on Bevells own input? I am sure he is the one actually selecting the call from a list, but does Cable and Pete decided on the 40 – 50 different offensive plays per week? Is Bevell just picking from a list that Cable and PC came up with the week before the game?

    Do you think Cable tells Bevell before each series what to call, or maybe he does this in key situations? I think I have seen Pete ask Bevell before a play what was called.

    Just trying to figure out how much of this (conservative/somewhat predictable) play calling is on Bevell, 100%, 50% due to Cable and PC selecting/limiting the plays before the game, 30% if they are also telling him what to call on the sidelines during the game, etc.

  33. GeorgiaHawk says:

    CDHawkFan- Good point. Perhaps that’s the real reason that Bevell is a little testy. I would be to if I had to deal with someone else having the power to change plays at any time.

  34. RDPoulsbo says:

    I think how it works is, PC or Cable tells Bevell what type of offense to run for the series, like base, 2-minute, 4-minute, zone-read option, etc. and calls the plays/packages that fit those sets. So, for example, all the criticism of the last offensive drive being conservative, yes it was. That series was run within their 4-minute offense designed to eat up the clock. Everyone knows it was going to be heavy runs with high percentage passes. It was a matter of execution.

    I can’t find any fault with the decision because they were indeed successful at both moving the chains while burning the clock with the goal of making it the last drive of the game for a game winning score so they wouldn’t have to rely on the defense holding Miami. It’s actually a good example of proper clock management. They were on the edge of FG range when the players failed to execute on the last 3 plays. O-line up front failed to get any kind of hole for Turbin when they were reasonably successful earlier in the drive, Wilson’s poor decision to complete a screen to Lynch when there were 5 guys around him and well behind the LoS and finally, receivers failing to get open on the 3rd and long, which resulted in a sack. Those plays were all failures to properly execute by the players, not failure of decision making by the coaching staff.

  35. Palerydr says:

    I agree with your analysis Poulsbo the problem is some readers here on the blog have a limited ability to actually see those types of situations on the field and then understand what they are seeing. It’s far easier to just say “the coach sucks” than to actually reason out and comprehend what you are seeing happening on the field in any given time frame of the game.

  36. mojjonation says:

    A lot of the questions people are posing right now regarding play calling could be answered by one guy. Those same people know that one guy will never answer the question as to who actually has the bottom line on play calling. So while all the speculation could be crushed with a few words from one individual, it will never happen and we can continue to speculate and keep these blogs alive.

    San Fran is predictable in running because they have a strong O-line and RB’s. What isn’t predictable is their sets. The Chicago game was evidence of that when San Fran ran 2 TE’s, 3 TE’s, 6 or 7 lineman, or ran 2 TE’s with what looked like a wishbone package behind Kap. When they lined up in that, all that came to mind was an 80′s Nebraska squad running “student body left”. The announcers were as confused as Chicago because those sets had never been shown on tape. San Fran is predictable, but successful, because they mix up the known with the unknown. Here, not so much.

    If your Beast Mode run style is not working up the middle, and let’s face it, it wasn’t, maybe we switch it up to the Turbinator running a sweep. Big guys are slow, fast guys are smaller. So if the run game isn’t working between the tackles, maybe try going outside. CJ2K ran for nearly 200 yards on Miami when the Titans beat them down 37-3 in Miami. Why Seattle couldn’t figure out how to offset Miami’s run defense is beyond me.

  37. mojjonation says:

    While the play calling can be questionable at times, saying it is all on the players for lack of execution only holds water if the play called can beat the defense that was called 100% of the time. Saying it is always on the players for execution would mean that the OC calls the correct play 100% of the time which we know is not the case. So calling a screen to the short side of the field when the D is going to mortgage the farm on a blitz probably has about as low a percentage of success as running up the middle 19 times and getting nowhere. Now granted we don’t get to see the defense show its cards until the last second, and we have a rookie QB, but Wilson never seems to audible out of those situations where the defense has tipped its hat as to what it is going to do. A question posed to RW, and his response, would be good to hear.

  38. RDPoulsbo says:

    Everyone wants a silver bullet, and apparently going all Air Coryell is the silver bullet of the week. What’s funny is most of the Air Coryell offenses in the league are run by the most overrated teams in the league. See Cowboys and Chargers. Sure, there’s some pretty highlight plays, but overall, they’re perennial losers. Even as much as the NFL has gone pass happy lately, I’m surprised this offense hasn’t been phased out of the league like the spread has.

    BTW: The zone-read and spread-option made popular by RG3 and Newton (I won’t count Tebow as a QB here) are just fads like the Wildcat. They might work for a couple plays, but their limitations will ultimately limit them from being actual offensive schemes for the long term.

  39. “I cant believe there are people that think our coaches are doing a good job with the talent they have. It doesnt take a rocket scientist or another NFL coach to see they are bumbling and clueless and are failing…. ”

    Actually, we’re 6-5, and would be in the playoffs if the season ended right now. And we’re doing this with a rookie QB that our coach/gm found in the draft after every team in the league passed on him at least twice.

    We’re not failing. I’d say this team is about right on schedule for where we all want them to be. Playoffs this year (hopefully), and beyond after that. Of course we’ve got things to fix, and of course we’ll continue to have ups and downs, but things are not going nearly as badly as the majority of your posts reflect.

  40. RDPoulsbo says:

    mojjonation: Go back and look at that very same drive again, minus the last 3 plays. What they were doing up to that last set of downs was pretty successful, both in execution and calls designed to do what they wanted to do. Even those last 3 plays were good calls since all they really needed were a couple more yards while keeping the clock running. It seems you’re just complaining about wanting them to do things differently with the benefit of hindsight.

  41. ChrisHolmes says:

    “I want this guy out of here even more than I wanted them to fire Knapp and Mora…”

    Nah, I wanted Knapp and Mora fired more.

    Bevell is okay. I’m not enamored with him as an OC, but he does run a decent offense (I especially like his use of empty backfield sets and play action deep throws – think Rice against Patriots).

    Bevell’s problems, to me, are thus:

    1) He doesn’t seem to prepare/gameplan very well for his opponent. Exhibit A, for me, is the Miami game. Yes, you need to run to set up play action and roll-outs, etc., but running into the heart/strength of Miami’s defense – those two DT’s in the middle – is not smart. It showed a complete lack of preparation on Bevell’s part, or if he did realize what he was running into, then he’s just a jackwagon for thinking they would have any success. There are a lot of running plays in the playbook, and a lot that don’t have to run right into the teeth of the defense in Miami. I was disappointed by that part of the offensive plan.

    2) His creativity in the passing game just doesn’t seem to be any good when we’re not in an empty set. This probably bugs me more than anything. It’s why I loved Holmgren’s offense (despite some of his annoying quirks) – Holmgren knew how to maximize formation usage to deceive defenses and maximize route combinations to get our less-than-stellar receivers “open” (and by open, I mean open, so guys don’t have to make circus catches with defenders draped all over them).

    When we’re in empty sets now, I see some pretty creative route combinations and guys are getting open. But when we’re not in the empty set, all I see is conservative junk that really only works well if you have superior playmakers. We run a lot of formations and personnel packages that (a) aren’t conducive to passing and (b) telegraph what we’re doing to the defense. It’s rather annoying and almost, dare I say, collegiate in approach.

    Bevell talks like an OC who should understand deception via formation and personnel groupings (which is, after all, why you use the running game to setup play action, or run naked bootlegs, and read-option stuff). But he just doesn’t call a game like that. Yeah, we see some of that from time to time, but not with any consistency.

    We run out of running formations and pass out of shotgun. We rarely show a look that says, “this could be anything – take a guess”. That part bugs the hell out of me.

    It seems like we don’t work to put our best playmakers on the field at the same time, using route combinations that ensure someone gets open. I mean, when was the last time we saw Rice, Tate, Baldwin, Miller and Lynch on the field at the same time in a formation that wasn’t an empty set from shotgun? Why can’t we run more formations that put those 5 guys on the field at the same time and give them a shot to make plays? I understand our love of running with a FB in front of Lynch, but we could move the chains, I think, with some 3/1 sets. We choose, instead, to go out there in 3TE or I and telegraph our intent to the defense (for the most part).

    It’s just frustrating to watch at times. I keep feeling like there’s opportunities for us to maximize our personnel groupings better, to exploit some defensive mismatches a bit better, and we’re not doing it. At least, that’s how it seems.

  42. mojjonation says:

    RD, I agree. That drive had game winner all over it. Then the wheels fell off. All of them. It’s as if the two minute warning turned them into Leach type zombies and they forgot how to do everything that got them to that point.

    Of cours hindsight is 20/20. If they had won what the team would be getting is called praise instead of grief. But every loss (and even a couple of wins) has had some type of what looks to be a mental letdown at critical moments. To me, that is understandbale and maybe even acceptable up to maybe half the season. But when you are in the second half of the season, playing against a team that everyone agrees you are better than, you shouldn’t have those types of breakdowns.

  43. mojjonation says:

    Chris…Bevells best year where he had the title of OC was the first year Favre was in Minnesota. Since then, Favre has come out and said that if he didn’t like the play Bevell sent in, he called his own. You can look up Bevells stats while he was at Minnesota. Even with AP in the backfield, his passing game was middle of the road at best. More often than not, is was 20th or lower. Enter Favre, he looks like a genius. He leaves Minnesota, comes to Seattle, does not have an elite QB who can call his own plays and he looks mortal again.

    Regarding the sets and plays, I have wondered the same thing. Why do we run when it looks like a run, and pass when it looks like a pass? I think it was the GB game where RW was 6/7 for 140 yards and a TD on first down. Now he didn’t look great on other downs, but that’s because the predictable theory held true. We went against the grain on first down in that game and RW looked like an All Pro.

    Everyone on the planet knows that San Fran can and will run the ball. Even in predictable sets they run the ball. But then they throw a wrinkle out there where they have 7 lineman or a wishbone/triple option backfield. We do not have those wrinkles. It would be fun to see Lynch, Turbin, and Robinson, in the backfield with Wilson. Other than Robinson, it’s pick your poison. And even then, MRob has had his fair share of success.

  44. RDPoulsbo says:

    I’ve said this before, but even though I find few faults with Bevell in the Miami game, I think he’ll be gone at the end of the season no matter how they finish.

    With Wilson behind center, this isn’t a WCO anymore. It’s an E-P, or to use the misnomer, “pro style offense.” They’re either going to promote Tom Cable (hard to keep him around as an o-line coach given his current duties) so another team doesn’t pay him as an OC, or they go out and get someone from a team like the Giants, Steelers, or Patriots so the incoming OC’s background is more in tune with Wilson’s strengths. I personally think Cable would be a bad fit since he’s another WCO guy, so I’d prefer the latter.

  45. RD–I understand Erhardt/Perkins, I understand the use of faking a reverse and having three or four run plays that look the same; I get running to set up the pass.

    But when you deliberately, REPEATEDLY, call plays into the teeth of the other teams strength when it isnt working, and you continually put your offense into third and long situations, that strategy needs to be at least adjusted, if not abandoned.

    It makes no sense to run the same failing offense for three quarters week after week. Yet thats what they’ve done in all our losses and most of our wins. We must be nearly last in the league in points scored in the third quarter. And they refuse to change.

    Do you know that one definition of insanity is to repeat the same behavior over and over expecting a different outcome?!

    Thats not to say you dont set up plays with other plays–but I see a total lack of intermediate passing in this offense, and a lack of differentiation and creativity in the receivers routes.

    And face it, when Seattle isnt conservative, we move the ball and score TD’s; when they tighten up on the reins, they go nowhere. Sure, its probably true that Carrol/Cable tell Bevell which type of offense to run each drive; but its Bevells job to not be an idiot flunky and stand up for himself. I blame the entire offensive staff, not just Bevell. Carrol and Cable deserve to be fired for the way they are mismanaging this team, esp the offense. Im bagging on Bevell for his angry, defensive, clueless blather in this interview, but make no mistake I blame Carrol and Cable as well.

  46. RDPoulsbo says:

    Well, here you go:
    http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/3rd-quarter-points-per-game

    Seattle is 23rd, which puts them on par for their scoring offense overall ppg when it comes to the 3rd quarter.

    You’re reference to the playcalling as conservative is with the pretext that conservative playcalling is reflexively a bad thing. Whether it’s bad or not is dictated by the situation. This is not a team that’s built to air it out unless they absolutely have to. They’re still another year off before they can start looking to do that with the team more seasoned, new personnel, etc. Just remember where they were a year or 2 years ago. Hell, just look at the first 4 games of this season. There’s still a lot of work left to do before they can become more dynamic.

  47. RD-I disagree. The horrid offense the first month was due just as much to overly-conservative playcalling and gameplanning as it was having a rookie qb. Thier approach is not working. We have far more talent on offense than the Skins, Dolphins, or Colts, yet those teams can pass; we can as well, but we havent because our coaches are screwing up.

    They just arent anwhere near as good as the coaches in Miami, WA, and Indy. Which is really sad to say.

  48. Alright, I know I’m late to the thread, but I have to comment on this one.

    Are you kidding me Bevell?? Can you really sit there and say we’re a running team when we couldn’t get Lynch over 50 yards in a whole damn game against the “vaunted” Dolphin defense? Yeah, maybe that’s the best thing the Seahawks do, but like others pointed out, you don’t do it to just do it. Remember the Dolphins secondary was supposed to be suspect and we didn’t really attack it that much because we were too busy getting no-gains, small gains, or lots of losses in with running plays.

    Lynch is Lynch, we all know that. But without an interior offensive line that can dominantly block the DTs and NTs in this league, we should have a back-up plan to throw more in those situations.

    I half-way hope we collapse so that we can get a real offensive coordinator next year. No I don’t want us to collapse, but I do want a new O-Coordinator.

  49. LBC–Thank you. Finally someone who isnt a Kool-Aid addict.

  50. We are a running team, except of course, when our O-line can’t push the line, the box is constantly stacked, and the onter side doesn’t worry about our pass game, because “seattle is a one dimensional running team.” Only an idiot continues to pound their head into a brick wall when we have the second highest rated QB in the League!
    Only and idiot,…or Bevell.

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