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Morning links: Wilson best QB in the NFC West?

Post by Eric Williams on Oct. 31, 2012 at 10:49 am with 25 Comments »
October 31, 2012 10:49 am
Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson throws the ball during the second half of an NFL preseason football game in Kansas City, Mo., Friday, Aug. 24, 2012. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

Khaled Elsayed of Pro Football Focus says he’d take Seattle’s Russell Wilson over San Francisco’s Alex Smith, putting the rookie quarterback on his midseason, All-NFC West team.

Even after Smith’s impressive performance against Arizona on Monday, night, Elsayed appears to like Wilson’s upside, and believes San Francisco’s offense is limited by Smith’s ability.

Marshawn Lynch, Sidney Rice, Chris Clemons, Brandon Mebane, Richard Sherman, Leon Washington and Byron Maxwell also make the list.

Elsayed: “Alex Smith looked set to have this position sewn up before his two horrible performances against the Giants and Seahawks made you realize the 49ers’ offense, is instead, limited by him. Instead, Wilson has performed above expectations and finds himself looking like a Top 10 quarterback.”

Alex Marvez of Fox Sports gives Seattle a C grade in his midseason report: Marvez: “The Seahawks have a good enough defense to make some noise in the postseason, but they first have to secure an invitation to the party. Being 0-3 in the NFC West so far could hurt Seattle in potential playoff tiebreakers. Back-to-back road games against Miami and Chicago in Weeks 12 and 13 are no picnic either.”

ESPN’s panel of NFL experts drops the Seahawks to No. 13 in their NFL power rankings.

Brian McIntyre of Yahoo Sports keeps Seattle at No. 10 in his power rankings.

Brady Henderson of 710 ESPN Seattle writes that Kansas City Star reporter Adam Teicher says there’s a lot of red flags that come with Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe Teicher doesn’t believe Bowe is worth trading for. Teicher: “He’s dropped some big passes for them that have cost them games over the years. He’s just not a real reliable guy.”

Brock Huard of ESPN 710 Seattle says that Seattle’s inexperience on defense is to blame for the team’s struggles on third down, as he explains in this video link.

Clare Farnsworth of Seahawks.com hands out his midseason awards. Marshawn Lynch is the team’s MVP.

The NFL Network’s The Season profiles Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson in this video link.

Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com has Seattle selecting Tennessee receiver Cordarrelle Patterson at No. 17 overall in his 2013 Mock Draft.

Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated gives linebacker Bobby Wagner some props as potential defensive rookie of the year candidate.

Denver receiver Demaryius Thomas dressed up as a replacement ref for Halloween.

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  1. Nice. This ought to get some pleasant banter going.

  2. Ignoring the inevitable QB debate….. I was a little surprised to see Maxwell on the list ahead of Heath Farwell. Maxwell hasn’t played enough / been healthy enough to be on the list IMO.

  3. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Oh oh…..Positive Wilson article will lead to some serious CAPS LOCK. Happy Halloween indeed.

  4. And Kerry Rhodes ahead of Earl Thomas? Really?

  5. SeahawkFan12 says:

    Great…here we go…

  6. HawkfaninMT says:

    I agree that Rhodes over ET was the most glaring mistake. I also feel like Unger should have made it. That guy has been a rock in the middle

  7. montanamike2 says:

    Maxwell hasn’t been healthy enough for consideration and it’s ridiculous to leave off Earl Thomas.

  8. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I’m all for upside, but the reality is that Alex Smith is leading the team that is in first place by two games. Not sure I could support Wilson being above that. Of course based just on potential, sure. But as many including myself have mentioned on this very blog, it’s a team game. 11 guys on offense, 11 on defense and special teams. Every guy has to do their part to make a positive play, make a block, catch a pass, get a first down, make a tackle, cause turnovers. The QB gets the most press, along with praise and criticism. We all know there’s a lot more to it than just the QB.

  9. abqhwkfn says:

    To have our qb, rb and wr on the all NFC west offensive team is surprising!! Personally i think only Lynch deserves it.

  10. ChrisHolmes says:

    100% correct on Bowe. Now let’s please put that one to rest.

  11. Carlsonkid says:

    Love Wilson ; wouldn’t rank him ahead of Bradford just yet ..

  12. RDPoulsbo says:

    It really does suck to be Bradford when you’re protected by that “o-line.” You’d think they were being paid off by their opponents the way they protect him. Not going to go too deep into the QB debate, but Wilson isn’t top 10.

    I also think Fitz should be there over either Crabtree or Rice. Again, sucks to have an AZ QB throwing to you, but it’s not his fault.

  13. Not only is the midget the best QB on the team but the best in the NFC West!!

    If you can’t tell by my derogative term for describing little people that I was being sarcastic… There’s no hope for you..

    We better send some EMT’s over to ACIB’s house now..

  14. Hawksince77 says:

    Carlsonkid – agreed, I wouldn’t rank Wilson above Bradford either. Bradford is very good and more experienced. I think it more than possible that Wilson exceed Bradford at some point, perhaps next year, but right now, this moment, if you swapped Bradford for Wilson, the Seahawks would probably be a better team. I wouldn’t make the trade for the longer term, but we are talking about right now.

    Alex Smith is not a good QB. He is not consistent enough. There are times he looks really really good, a game at a time, and then he looks more like TJack than anyone.

    RDPoulsbo (BTW, do you live in Poulsbo? I graduated from North Kitsap but its been awhile) anyway, Fitzgerald is probably top 3 WR in the league, and certainly in the top 2 in the NFC West, so I agree.

    As far as Wilson’s future, he might be top ten some day. It entirely depends on how long he continues to improve. At one extreme, if he has already played his best football, he will never reach that level. On the other hand, if he continues to improve at the same rate for the next year or two, he will certainly rank in that range.

  15. I too would say that Bradford, given the O-line and weapons Alex Smith has, would be the best QB in the division, sadly for him he is pretty much screwed with the talent surrounding him, even Steven Jackson isn’t performing that well, I almost feel sorry for the kid, then again, I find it funny that the Rams are still pretty terrible on offense.

  16. RDPoulsbo says:

    Hawksince77: I used to live in Poulsbo. Graduated from NK in ’95.

    I understand the potential thing, but if you’re going to create an “All NFC West” team, then you should rank them as to how they’re playing now, not where you think they’ll be in a few years. As of now, Wilson shouldn’t be considered for that.

    Also on the Bowe trade idea. I’d go 6th at best because of the contract it’ll require. I don’t buy the diva rep. I’d hate to play for KC as well. Obo’s on IR and now they have Martin and Kearse bringing up the back end of the depth chart. Bowe does improve the position even with the other red flags, but his role would be limited this year since he’d be unfamiliar with the playbook. In the end, they’d be better off long term using their 1st round pick on a WR next year.

  17. mojjonation says:

    QB speculation. It’s as old as football itself. Put it to rest.

  18. Southendzone says:

    Love the morning links post, but I think that one from pro football focus could have been left out. That guys opinion is as valid as my dog’s, and my dog’s football blog never gets linked by the Tacoma News Tribune.

    I don’t think the Hawks would grab Bowe either, for one thing it’s unlikely they’d be willing to give up more than the compensatory pick that KC will end up with if Bowe walks in free agency.

  19. ChrisHolmes says:

    If you were to tell me I could pick any QB in the NFC West to start a new franchise with, I’d go with Wilson.

    Smith has had 7 years to prove what he can do. I think the reason the 49ers are getting some successful games out of him now is because Harbaugh has figured out how to manage him better than any previous head coach. But if a playoff game is on the line, I’d easily take Wilson over Smith.

    Arizona can be dropped from the discussion.

    So that leaves Bradford.

    I’d still take Wilson.

    I love Wilson’s metrics, except the height of course. But his arm is incredibly live, and he’s accurate. Yeah, he floats a few now and then; okay. But for me, I prize accuracy and smarts, and I think Wilson has both in spades. And we’ve seen his arm strength: he can make every throw. The boy can flat out chuck it downfield, and he doesn’t look like he’s even trying.

    But beyond that, I just love the way the kid prepares. He reminds me of Peyton Manning this way – he is not going to let anyone out-work or out-prepare him. He knows that physical ability isn’t enough. He has a desire to be better than everyone. He has a desire to prove his doubters wrong (and that is a stronger motivator than people might think).

    I love Wilson’s poise. He’s getting better and better every week at standing in the pocket while it’s collapsing and making a dart throw. I saw one on that final drive last week that I thought for sure was going to be a pocket-collapse sack, and Wilson (with his nifty high release point) threw a dart for a first down. I was impressed.

    Nothing fazes this kid. He’s gutsy. He believes in himself. He’s smart. Confident. Poised. That’s why he already has two 4th quarter comebacks and should have had a 3rd last week if only the defense could have made a stop.

    I mean, what was our biggest complaint with Jackson last year? The guy fell apart in the final 2 minutes. Tavaris was not a polished, poised, confident QB who could drive your team down the field and win a game. He proved it over and over. When the pressure was on, Jackson wilted.

    Wilson seems to thrive on it.

    When you watch Eli Manning in the final minutes of those playoff games and those Superbowls, you are seeing a guy who absolutely, totally believes he’s going to make the plays and they’re going to win. And they do. It’s not bravado – it’s just a quiet confidence.

    I see the same thing in Wilson. Quietly confident. He doesn’t, for one second, think they can’t do it.

    Wilson is a star in the making. I think in three years we’re going to look back and be amazed at how far he’s come, and we’re going to be so thankful as fans that he’s our QB. We’re going to feel the way fans of other teams do when they know they have an elite QB at the helm on Sundays.

  20. Hawksince77 says:

    RDPoulsbo – ha! I probably went to school with your parents (if they are from Poulsbo).

    Anyway, fully agree: based on playing the game today, both Bradford and Fitzgerald should be on that team.

    Don’t know that there are many FSs better than Thomas, but I suppose it’s possible.

  21. agree w/all of that ChrisHolmes.

  22. Hawkpride509 says:

    I hate Bradford’s mobility, but then again Brady isn’t mobile either. I don’t know if it was his sophomore slump a year ago or his injuries which started the before he left college, but Bradford leaves something to be desired for me. That being said, he does come out and shred defenses–at times. Consistency is something he needs work to work on. Maybe Amendola can be his Welker. I’ll still take Wilson because, in life incredible work ethic always fosters success. He will rise to much greater heights. His numbers look to double Tjacks’ in TDs and he, in a short time has shown he can win games in the fourth quarter. He’s the Comeback Kid. (like Matt Ryan is Matty Ice..c’mon let’s make it stick!!) just think if the Hawks had held the Lions…Wilson all the way for NFC west starting QB.

  23. RDPoulsbo says:

    ChrisHolmes: The only problem is that’s all based on potential. Bradford is the best QB in the division this year. It bears out when you see his production when he has time and when he doesn’t. The trouble is, he usually doesn’t have time. That doesn’t mean Wilson can’t be the better QB in the future. That’s going to depend on his continued development. As Chuck Knox once said, “potential just means it ain’t done yet.”

  24. bbnate420 says:

    That Elsayed guy must either not watch the NFC West or he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed. Maxwell? He’s played 3 games and has 2 tackles. No ET? Fitz is better than either Crabtree or Rice, and I like Rice. Fitz is a no doubt top 5 WR.

    I’d take Alex Smith over RW right now. It’s a mid-season All-NFC West team, so it should have the players playing the best thus far. Smith has a 102.1 rating. He has more yards, more TDs, less INTs, a better completion percentage, and a better average per attempt. If you’re asking who I take going forward, then it is definitely RW.

  25. bbnate420 says:

    Bradford and RW have the exact same QB rating right now. And don’t say it’s BS, because all of their major stats are pretty similar. It’s not like Bradford has way more yards and TDs. I’m not sold on Bradford being a top tier QB. I know he doesn’t have elite talent around him on offense, but neither does RW and he is a rookie.

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