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Carroll: OL Carpenter will play this season

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm with 60 Comments »
August 29, 2012 12:54 pm

Nothing much happened during today’s light walkthrough for the Seattle Seahawks inside the VMAC’s indoor practice facility this morning.

However, Seattle head coach Pete Carroll provided a very informative update on where his team sits health-wise heading into the final exhibition game against Oakland tomorrow.

The big news was that second-year lineman James Carpenter, who was placed on the physically unable to perform list to begin training camp as he recovers from ACL knee surgery, is doing much better and definitely will play this season, according to Carroll.

In fact, Carroll said the team will have a tough decision to make whether or not to start Carpenter on the PUP list to begin the regular season.

“He’s not far away from looking like he could practice and play for us,” Carroll said. “But still, it’s a crucial time here. And we’re going to have to make a big decision on how we do this.

“He has busted his tail to get back and we’re really, really excited. He is definitely going to play this year. We didn’t know that as we went into even July. We weren’t sure. But we know that now, that he’s going to play.”

Frontline players who will not play on Thursday include running back Marshawn Lynch (back), receiver Doug Baldwin (hamstring) and defensive tackle Jason Jones (knee).

Carroll said that Lynch’s back is improved, and that he’s on schedule to play in the season opener at Arizona.

“He took a real good turn this week,” Carroll said. “And the rehab he’s been doing has really been effective. So we think he’s going to be fine.”

Carroll said that Baldwin had a good workout at top speed on Tuesday, but that the training staff still wants to hold him out this week so that he’s fully healthy for Arizona.

Baldwin is expected to be full-go in Seattle’s first practice in preparation for the Cardinals next week. However, Baldwin will have to knock the rust off quickly.

Carroll also said that the team is taking care of Jones after he had surgery in January, but that the free agent defensive lineman is expected to be ready for the Arizona game.

“It’s a maintenance issue coming off the surgery in January,” Carroll said about Jones. “It’s just not as long as we would have like separated between surgery and play time. And so as he had to endure the rigors of camp, we need to slow him down. So it’s just a maintenance thing. He’s in good shape, and he’ll be ready for the opener.”

Rookie defensive lineman Greg Scruggs (hamstring) and safety Chris Maragos (shoulder) also are not expected to play on Thursday.

Offensive lineman John Moffitt (elbow) is expected to play against Oakland, but Carroll left the door open to the possibility that rookie J.R. Sweezy starts at right guard against to open the season.

“We’re just going one game at a time there,” Carroll said. “But he’s (Sweezy) handled it very well. He’ll get another opportunity tomorrow night, and we’ll just see.”

Carroll said that quarterback Matt Flynn has recovered from his sore elbow and will play on Thursday.

“He’ll get some good play time in this one,” Carroll said. “We’d like to see him just do like he’s been doing. Just log some more time because of the big game he missed in (preseason game) No. 3, we’re just going to play him a bit more.”

Some tidbits

* Carroll said Thursday’s game is about young guys getting opportunities, so they are setting up the game with that in mind. Specifically, the Seahawks want to get a closer look at how fringe guys perform on special teams.

* Carroll praised sixth round draft choice Winston Guy, making it seem that there’s a good chance he winds up on the 53-man roster. Guy has been part of Seattle’s bandit package when the defense goes with six defensive back, a role that Carroll said he could fill during the regular season.

“I think that’s a fantastic draft pick for us,” Carroll said. “He’s in that starting group in Game 1 maybe the first third down of the season. So that’s an amazing accomplishment for him. But he’s got all the right stuff. But he’s still a pup, and we have to deal with that.”

* Carroll said that while Bruce Irvin has not recorded a sack or a tackle, he’s been the most productive defensive player in training camp according to the team’s stats that they keep for each practice.

Carroll said that Irvin had his best two days of practice during training camp this week.

“What that means is he’s now taking advantage of the calls and what’s asked of him with great speed,” Carroll said. “He was thinking a lot. And he was trying to fit things together. And he wasn’t as natural as he would become. And he’s getting a lot closer.”

* Linebacker Matt McCoy has not played in any preseason games because of a knee surgery he had during the offseason. Carroll says McCoy is valuable because he can play all three linebacker positions, and that he’s close to getting back on the field.

However, the Seahawks have a tough decision to make because they have not had an opportunity to see him play before making a decision on final roster cut downs.

“He had a very good offseason, but just right as camp began he looked like he needed more time,” Carroll said. “And so we’ve been trying to buy every minute of it. He’s just about ready to practice.”

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  1. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Great News!

  2. jawpeace says:

    I am curious on where Carp would play. Back out at right tackle? Do they try the guard experiment, now that Sweezy has come out of no where and excelled? Carp really started to show improvement in his game before he went down with the knee injury.
    My opinion keep him on the PUP a few more weeks. Giving his knee extra time is not going to hurt him. Also after a few weeks the staff will have a better idea on where to play him.

  3. I agree – leave Carp on PUP and let him heal.

    McQuistan can play LG and Moffit or Sweezy can play RG.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    jaw – Carroll and Schneider have both said that he’ll move to guard.

    And it it’s great news that he’ll return this season.

    Im concerned about Baldwin. Hamstring issues have a knack of lingering, for months.

    Guy must be impressive in practice because he hadn’t looked particularly good in games. Although he’s been playing some better.

  5. That’s a lot of good news on the injury front. And the way Sweezy has been playing, it’s definitely that much more of a plus for the o-line if Moffitt pushes him for the starting job.

    I’m a bit surprised to hear good things about Winston Guy, but I guess he’s done enough to make up for those earlier flubs on special teams.

  6. Yeah, this is all pretty much great news. I really hope they don’t rush Carp (keep him on the PUP) b/c I’m hoping he can eventually take over at LG, even if it isn’t until next year. The Sweezy pick/steal really made the guard position an area of great (potential) strength. I’m not expecting Sweezy to perform like a Pro Bowler if he plays this season (although we’ll see plenty of plays where he looks great, I believe), but for the future it looks like his future looks like Chris Dielman (not a very good DT that ends up a great G).

  7. Glad to hear Winston Guy getting props. Most haven’t seen him yet other than his muffed blocking for the punter in a preseason game. I wouldn’t grade him on that, I would just assume that blocking for the P won’t be his role on special teams.

    Guy gives us something the team was missing last year – a true backup to Kam Chancellor. He’s the only big safety on the roster besides Kam. The only SS who can play big in the box like Kam.

    Still, seems there will be some intense competition at S if they only keep 4. Maragos is the only speedster who can cover ground deep like ET, and he’s a playmaker. Yet Jeron Johnson always seems to be around the ball making plays and he’ll be hard to cut.

    Too many good DBs. Its a good problem to have.

  8. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I was really concerned about the guard position this off season, (Especially with Carpitt coming off injuries) but now with Sweezy, and Carpitt coming back soon it looks very good.

  9. Dukeshire says:

    There’s no need to pull him of the PUP list until he’s ready for game action. It’s not as though they have to do it before the season. They can do it any time through week 6.

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    True Stevos, I bet some other teams are just licking their chops for the chance to sign our surplus DBs when the final cuts are made.

    It would be great if the FO was able to trade one or two before the cuts.

  11. Carpenter, Moffitt, McQuistan, and Sweezy

    The problem with this team is we have too many starting guards.
    Break Up The Seahawks!! lol.

  12. Our guards are versatile as well. Moffitt can back up at Center and McQuistan has filled in at LT.

  13. Seahawks2620 says:

    Pete has nurtured every injury on this team, I really doubt he would rush carp back, knowing just how serious his injury was.

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I hope Flynn gets to play most of the game this week and do well. That would make him more interesting to some qb desperate team out there. If the FO plays this right they may get some value for him within the next year.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/nfl/seattle-seahawks-quarterback-russell-wilson-matt-flynn_1117.htm

  15. jawpeace says:

    More reflection about the all the good offensive line men. One Pete is going to play the best performer at the position. Whether it ends up being a draft pick from round one or a converted defensive linemen from the seventh round. Second I agree with Seahawks2620, I like how Pete takes care of injured players and not rushing them back. This seems to be opposite of how Holmgren did it. I really believe they shortened Alexander’s career playing him hurt; a prime example when he had a stress fracture in his foot and clearly was not running very well in pain. They continued to start him until it became a crack.

  16. freedom_X says:

    I wouldn’t write off seeing Carpenter back at right tackle either someday. Seattle has never truly found a consistent right tackle that I can remember. Even guys that looked like solutions, such as the young Sean Locklear, suddenly seemed to lose their mojo and become ineffective after a couple decent years.

    The last consistent right tackle Seattle had might have been Mike Wilson?

    So, just based on past history, I’m not thinking that Seattle is set at right tackle, not until the incumbent turns in 2-3 good years (whoever he may be.)

  17. I’ll play ball with you Georgia. Flynn plays well enough that after Rothlesburger & fries goes down for the season we ship him to the Stealers for DeCastro. Only problem is that DeCastro due to injury can’t beat out Sweezy.

    We’ve waited a long time for some solid players at the QB position. I wouldn’t be in any rush to break up this group. Often times in the NFL you’re only as good as your backup.

  18. FleaFlicker says:

    Saying a silent prayer to the football gods that everybody on our team is still healthy on Friday morning. Damn, the Raiders make me nervous. Throw the game, it’s preseason, I don’t care…

  19. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Galena- I agree, however Flynn may not. I’m sure he sees himself as a starter. He’s paid his dues and I doubt that he wants to be a career backup.
    If the FO has a chance to deal him for some value down the road than I can see it happening. (not that I want it to) however I wouldn’t be surprised.

  20. sfseahawkfan says:

    I doubt that the Raiders will see Seahawk starters for more than the blink of an eye.

    What interests me is how many RBs the team keeps.

  21. osoviejo says:

    If Carp starts the season on PUP, he’s not eligible to come off until after week 6 (can’t practice, can’t play), and he doesn’t count against the active roster. If he’s taken off PUP before the season, he can practice and play whenever the team thinks he’s ready, but does count against the active roster.

  22. princeaden says:

    The way I understand this is that the more nimble guard Mans the LG position and the Mauler is the RG. Is this true in Cable’s system ? If so, then I could see Sweezy ending up at LG next to Okung and Carp at RG next to Breno with Moffitt backing up both and being an emergency Center. A line of Okung, Sweezy, Unger, Carp and Breno looks pretty imposing.

  23. wabubba67 says:

    To me, the big thing is practice time with Carpenter regarding the PUP list. Six weeks without being allowed to be on the practice field is a huge concern for a large offensive lineman with conditioning issues…even if he is not quite ready to play, I would be tempted to leave him off of the PUP list so that he can be ready when fully healthy (although that comes at the expense of a roster spot for someone else).

    Would love a healthy O-line of Okung-Carpenter-Unger-Sweezy/Moffitt-Breno G. (not sold on Breno just yet, and might want to upgrade at RT in the future)

  24. bbnate420 says:

    Neither JS or PC 100 % committed to Carp moving to LG if you read what they said. I still think he probably will. They suggested that he most likely would, but things change. Could depend on how McQuistan/Moffitt/Sweezy and Giacomini are playing in 6 to 9 weeks. They should leave him on the PUP until he is completely ready to practice. They could bring him off the PUP before week 7 if they are healthy on the o-line and they want him to get in practice time to be ready to play week 7.

  25. bbnate420 says:

    Never mind, I thought they could bring Carp off of the PUP before week 7 and let him practice, but that is not the case. Can attend meetings and use the training and medical staffs. They really have until almost the end of week 12 to decide whether or not to add him to the 53. They have 3 weeks from the start of week 7 to decide whether or not to allow him to practice, and they have 3 weeks from the time he begins to practice to decide whether or not to add him to the 53. So it looks like he will be added to the 53 by the end of week 9. They might use all three weeks to practice and get back in the groove. Can at least provide depth after that. Then most likely Moffitt, Sweezy, and Carp competing for the 2 G positions in 2013, as long as Carp doesn’t move back to RT.

  26. raymaines says:

    What a wonderful and compelling preseason this has been! Drama, intrigue, suspense, …..

    What a crappy game four this promises to be! Back to reality I suppose. KC should have been at home and this game should have been in Oakland.

    Can you imagine the vibes in the CLink against Dallas on week two if the Seahawks beat the stuffing’s out of AZ week one. And how entirely crazy it will be on Monday night against the Packers if they beat the Cowboys? Wow!!!

  27. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I think trading Flynn would be a terrible idea and don’t see it happening. Very few starting quarterbacks make it through the entire season without some sort of injury. Now they may only miss 2-3 games, but for us, one game could be the difference from playoffs and not. I would never trust Portis to be a reliable back up to Wilson. There’s just too much risk for such an idea and I can’t see Pete and John tearing this up just as it getting stronger than it’s been in many years. Flynn has played well, moved the team, had plenty of dropped passes and didn’t really have the cream of the receiver crop to throw to. Never the less, Wilson lit it up like no other QB I’ve ever seen on our team and I’m super excited to see him lead us this year and get us into the playoffs. Trading your solid backup QB would not be smart this year. Crazy talk.

  28. Dukeshire says:

    Carroll didn’t leave much ambiguity with his comments on whet Carpenter would play when he returned.

    “We would look at James – we want to see him play inside when he comes back. We want to see him play one of the guard spots,” Carroll said. “He’ll be a monster. He’ll just be a monster when we get him right. It’s going to be a bit but we’re really excited about that.”

    http://mynorthwest.com/?nid=422&sid=714743

  29. Hells yeah Ray, that’s what I’m talkin about! I’m trying to get tix for either Dallas or GB right now. Can’t wait till next week. I remember a couple years ago when we played at Oakland and their D Line treated Hass like a rag doll trapped in a pinball machine. I was actually scared for MH’s life. I don’t want Wilson or Flynn playing much in this game. Let’s play Portis 2+ quarters and see what he can do. Sorry Bobby.

  30. raymaines says:

    Lets dare to dream for a moment. Lets just say the Seahawks beat the crap out of Arizona week one.

    I think RW might totally loose his cool and break down in tears when he hears the 12th man in the CLink week two, and it would be quiet when he’s on the field. Can you imagine how Bruce Irvin and Bobby Wagner might feel on the first defensive series? They just aren’t ready for that much noise and won’t be able to communicate. Too much fun. Welcome to Seattle.

  31. raymaines says:

    Hey, I’ve got my list of things I do and don’t want to see in week four. Now all I need is for Eric to post his list of things to watch for. Come on Eric. Hit me.

  32. I have full confidence that our defense will finish in the top 5 for the year. These men are young, hungry, determined, and committed. We’re going to be fine. And that’s why I drafted our DST in my fantasy football league this season. Now go beat some ass, gentlemen. GO SEAHAWKS!!

  33. Only Chuck Norris can make Russell Wilson cry.

  34. Nice nugget Duke. If Carp does come back healthy and in shape, being the meat in the Okung/Unger sandwich would seem like a very protected place for him to work from. If he does make it back and contribute this season that would be pleasant surprise. I had basically written him off for 2012.

    Georgia I see where you are coming from. Flynn must be terribly disappointed being the competitor that he is. Hopefully when the sting wears off he will be a consummate professional and work his ass off for the day when his number is called. I’m very happy that he’s a Seahawk and believe that he will be critical in our Superbowl XLVIII campaign. If he wants to leave after we win it all in 2014 then the FO might oblige him. That game will be outdoors at the Meadowlands in NJ.

    Stay positive Matt!

  35. Not only will the Hawks beat the Cards, They will beat the crap out of the faltering Cokeboys & Pats. On top of that, GB’s arrogant O and porous D will get schooled on MNF.. But we’ll prob lose to the Panthers.

    Just boastful BS but possible..

  36. mquinn73 says:

    That’s good news on Carpenter.

    Truth is, nobody knows just how good he can be in this league. He might become a dominating interior lineman or just another Chris Spencer (a stretch pick in the first round who ‘only’ graded out as an average pro player).

    Either way, he needs to get on the field in good shape and show what he’s got. I agree with Dukeshire – I reckon Carroll keeps him on the PUP until he’s ready to play week-in, week-out. Then he has the opportunity to challenge McQuistan or Moffit/Sweezy for a starting spot.

    If, as Carroll believes, he gonna be “a monster” then he should really be making the LG or RG spot his own before the end of the season.

    P.S. No way this team trades Matt Flynn. If anything, I’d like to see us sign a veteran QB (i.e. one with 7+ years in the pros) following the 53 man cuts to add some proper experience to the QB position. That’ll help both Wilson & Flynn. Right now, we don’t need a ‘development player’ like Portis since both Wilson and Flynn are young enough – we need some experience instead.

  37. pabs – When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night he first checks under his bed for Russell Wilson.

  38. Chuck Norris wears a number 3 Seahawks jersey to bed.

  39. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Tight end Cameron Morrah, defensive lineman Pep Levingston and linebacker Jameson Konz, who were waived/injured on Sunday, have been added to the team’s injured reserve list.

    Isn’t this like the third year in a row that Konz has been on injured reserve?
    Is there a limit to who many times a player can be on it?

    And do they get paid while being on it? If so how much?

  40. Trading Matt Flynn is a stupid idea. I sincerely doubt that RW will make it through an entire season. Given his style of play and his instinct to run. Defences are typicaly ahead of offences early on. He will have his comeupins as everyone does at this level. This ain’t college anoymore dorthy.

  41. montanamike2 says:

    About 20 years ago i met Chuck Norris in Sacramento. He is half Mexican and half Navajo, the spanish part of him is dominant so he looks very white. He was raised on the Rez and was persecuted for being a half breed, he went to Korea and learned Tang-soo-do, he became the middle weight champion for i think it was 5 years. His real name is Carlos and i can’t remember his last name it’s something like Santinez or something and he’s a lot shorter than people would think 5-8 or 5-9. He seemed like a nice guy.

  42. Dukeshire says:

    I don’t really know why, but that post cracked me up. I envision that encounter with montanamike just grilling Chuck as enthusiastically as I would should I ever meet Kenny Easley.

  43. sluggo42 says:

    I want to throw up every time I see the “bearded man” spouting serious fun!
    Is that seeriously the sest you got? Altho the two cheerleader chicks are way hot….
    but other then those two babes, what is NFL channel thinking?

    C’mon man!

  44. montanamike2 says:

    Thanks Duke
    His persona is larger than life, it does demonstrate having a team with a chip on their shoulder has the heart to accomplish many things that complacent teams won’t do. It seems RW also has a chip very much like Chuck.

  45. montanamike2 says:

    Wilson in the 3rd round = steal of the draft!

  46. Palerydr says:

    I believe it was the comedian Jeff Foxworthy, who is coming to the Puyallup fair this year, who said “You might be a redneck if an episode of Walker Texas Ranger changed your life”

  47. raymaines says:

    I could see the Seahawks trading MF after the end of the season, but certainly not before then.

  48. Dukeshire says:

    sluggo42 – What the hell are you talking about?

  49. montanamike2 says:

    Lol Palerydr .
    Definitely he sucks as an actor. I remember going to a couple of movies he made as a teenager and being majorly disapointed. I never watched texas ranger because i knew it would be corny.

  50. Trade Flynn? Hmph, a bit early to be talking like that dontcha think? lol.

    Matt Flynn will likely have the chance to prove his value this season, and the talk about trading him will go away. Few quarterbacks make it through 16 games healthy, and if we are a playoff team, we need to win games if Wilson can’t go. Not to mention that our backup WRs on the scout team in practice this season should develop faster by practicing with Flynn as well. Let’s see how this season plays out before talking crazy trades of our best depth players.

  51. “Tight end Cameron Morrah, defensive lineman Pep Levingston and linebacker Jameson Konz, who were waived/injured on Sunday, have been added to the team’s injured reserve list.”

    Thanks, Georgia.

    I understand Morrah staying on IR so he can compete for a roster spot next season, he’s crazy talented. Livingston? Okay, but we have too much depth at DT for him to gain a spot here. Konz? I’ve watched him playing LB in practice and he looked lost to me (in his third camp). I don’t see him ever making this team, and I wonder if some of these moves to IR are done more to help the player out in some way?

  52. *sluggo42 – What the hell are you talking about?

    HA! I actually said that in my head before I read your post. Glad it wasn’t just me!

  53. NYHawkFan says:

    sluggo42- I agree with you. He was funny the first few times it appeared, but he gets old real fast.

    Duke – He’s referring to the bearded guy that appears in the commercial advertising Thursday Night NFL.

    There are some who said they liked the guy (hammajamma I believe). That’s cool.

  54. NYHawkFan says:

    He has a reddish colored beard and wears a bright blue suit.

  55. bbnate420 says:

    Duke, John Schneider said when interviewed by Mitch Levy, “I think he’s going to focus on the LG spot.” Hardly a 100 % commitment to him playing LG, like I said. Nice try though. :-)

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