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TNT 2012 draft preview: QBs to consider

Post by Eric Williams on April 22, 2012 at 11:40 am with 33 Comments »
April 22, 2012 11:40 am
Arizona State quarterback Brock Osweiler, left, carries the ball during the first half of an NCAA college football game against UCLA at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, Calif., Saturday, Nov. 5, 2011. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

We begin our annual position-by-position look at this year’s draft with Rob Rang, senior draft analyst for NFLDraftScout.com, who once again has graciously agreed to take a look at the draft from a Seahawks’ perspective.

Seattle appeared to fill the team’s need at quarterback by signing Matt Flynn in free agency.
However, coach Pete Carroll and general manager John Schneider traveled to watch the pro days of Texas A&M’s Ryan Tannehill and Arizona State’s Brock Osweiler in March.

And offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell attended Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson’s pro day.

Carroll and Schneider haven’t drafted a quarterback since taking over in January 2010. But they still consider improving the overall talent at that position one of their top priorities.

“It just happens like that,” Schneider said. “You can’t just manufacture a guy. You can’t just create him. When you do that is when you get in trouble, so you have to take steps until you get there.

“It’s not like we’re against taking risk. I think Pete and I and the staff have proved we’re willing to take risks, but they can’t be risks that would completely set the organization back.”

Rob Rang, senior draft analyst with NFLDraftScout.com, reviews quarterbacks Seattle might select in each round of this year’s draft.

First round, 12th pick: Ryan Tannehill, 6-4, 221, Texas A&M
Rob’s rationale: With Matt Flynn, Tarvaris Jackson ahead of him on the depth chart, the Seahawks would be able to provide Tannehill with the time he needs to develop to take advantage of his impressive skill-set.

Second round, 43rd pick: Kirk Cousins, 6-3, 214, Michigan State
Rob’s rationale: An effective game-manager who some scouts compare to Flynn, Cousins’ intangibles will win him points with coaches.

Third round, 75th pick: Brock Osweiler, 6-7, 242, Arizona State
Rob’s rationale: Undeniably raw but boasts the size, surprising athleticism and big arm worthy of developing.

Fourth round, 106th pick: Russell Wilson, 5-11, 204, Wisconsin
Rob’s rationale: Strong-armed, athletic and instinctive, Wilson has everything scouts are looking for except the size.

Sixth round, 181th pick: B.J. Coleman, 6-3, 232, Tennessee-Chattanooga
Rob’s rationale: A Tennessee transfer, Coleman offers intriguing upside and, frankly, would rank higher if a shoulder injury hadn’t hampered his senior season.

Seventh round, 225th pick: G.J. Kinne, 6-1, 234, Tulsa
Rob’s rationale: A Texas transfer, Kinne dominated Conference USA and stood out during the all-star game circuit, earning MVP of the inaugural NFLPA Bowl.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    I’m hard pressed to believe they’ll choose a QB thi year, either. A least not until late on Saturday.

  2. Surprised not to see Kellen Moore in here somewhere. Maybe it’s because Rang thinks he’ll go in the 5th? Seems odd to see him mssing from a list like this.

  3. tribfan1 says:

    They should choose 3 or 4.

  4. I like Cousins a lot, and Russell Wilson is growing on me. However, Cousins will go in the second, certainly before we pick in the third, and Russell Wilson will go late in the fourth or early in the fifth, at least. We’re gonna have to take Russel in the fourth or earlier if we really want him, and that may be high.

    I’d hate to see us go qb in the second, especially for a guy with a weak arm and slow feet, like Cousins. I sure wish he’d be there in the third.

    Personally, I think Seattle will end up with a DL, LB, RB in the first three rounds. If they get good guys there, I’d be thrilled and totally fine with taking Wilson with our fourth. I like Wilson a lot better than Osweiler. Osweiler should be drafted by the Bears–Jeremy Bates probably has a huge Man-Crush on him. He’s got talent and heart, but he was pretty mediocre in college. I just think a tough big kid from Montana is bound to make something of himself. (Im biased, I have family there).

  5. I wouldnt mind reaching for Cousins or Wilson, as I understand Schneider/Bill Walsh’s stance that if you really like a guy and wanna make sure you get him, taking him a round or two “early” really isnt a reach, except for the fact that we need too many things to luxury reach on a high pick. We need a DE.DT who can really rush the passer, a backup tough-guy RB with speed who can backup Lynch, a stud fast LB, and help on the O-line, someone who can play G and C. And those needs are bad enough I cant see qb trumping that, not with Flynn in the fold.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    STTBM – I tend to agree with that. That’s why I can’t see them picking a QB until late on day 3, if at all. I actually do however, expect them to sign an UDFA. Perhaps that could be Moore… We’ll know all very soon.

  7. Arkansas played there spring game yesterday and the Offence won 65 to 0

    QB Tyler Wilson was Awsome! He is our franchize quarterback in 2013!

  8. Dukeshire says:

    If we’re looking at QBs in next Year’s draft, I’ll take Aaron Murray from Georgia. He is legit. Forget USC. Forget Oaklahoma. He’s my QB in the ’13 draft, if we’re playing that game…

  9. Dukeshire says:

    - Que someone posting a 2013 mock… -

  10. It’d be nice to be able to trade out of 12 into the later part of the 1st round and pick up an extra 1st rounder next year. I would imagine one of those guys (Mercilus, Perry, Curry, etc.) will still be available later in the 1st round. Unless someone falls that shouldn’t fall, I don’t see too much difference in the quality of player being available at #12 than will be available in the mid-twenties. And the players that could slide to us at #12 really aren’t at positions we really need.

  11. I’m thinking the Seahawks either trade up to number 7 and draft Tannehill if Cleveland passes or they draft Russell Wilson in Round 4.

    Then again, last year I thought they would draft Colin Kaepernick at some point.

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I would love to see Russell Wilson picked at 4! If he were 4-5 inches taller he would be going in the top of the first round., imo.

  13. HawkfaninMT says:

    I do not want a QB until the 4th or later… and that is that!

    Who do you guys want to see our division rivals do?
    I really hope:
    Stl does not get Richardson, does get Claiborne
    AZ does not get DeCastro, does get Rieff
    SF does not get Poe or Upshaw , does get Fleener (I know I am in the minority, but I think Dwayne Allen will be better)

  14. Dukeshire says:

    I’m going out on a limb here and saying there is zero chance Seattle takes Tannehill at 12, let alone trade up to get him. From where I sit, the only trading Seattle does for a player, is trading back.

  15. I would fall over if Seattle ever drafted Wilson or Moore – I don’t think either one fits what Petey wants. I can see Schneider trying to convince him for Wilson – but Moore – not a chance, not a strong enough arm – great in every other category

  16. dukeshire is correct- if we trade it will be down to get more picks in this year’s draft and despite the “seer” know as Peter King I would be stunned if we took Tannehill even if available at 12. There is a whold lotta of smokescreening going on out there- we need passrush, linebacker and possibly a reliable and healthy CB- unfortunately I think WTIII is good but not healthly enough.

  17. ryanryan says:

    Agreed duke, I would almost go as far as saying they don’t pick a qb at all…to what end – they have a developmental guy in portis. unless they figure they will need a backup next year when they let track walk, which makes sense I guess…great, now I’m convinced they will draft one…the suspense is making me nutty.

  18. ryanryan says:

    Tjack – not track, damned autocorrect.

  19. ryanryan says:

    Autocorrect doesnt even think tjack belongs in the dictionary, let alone in the huddle…ha

  20. LMAO!!! I almost spit out my Coke when I read that ryanryan. That’s the funniest thing I have read in a long time.

    FYI – USC-Stanford is in OT on ESPNU right now (replay, obviously). It’s comical watching DeCastro destroying his man on EVERY play.

  21. DeCastro is like Suh two years ago. He’s a man and he’s playing against inferior losers who suck in comparison to him. Even if those players don’t really suck, they do when they actually have to play someone much better than they.

  22. ryansquared–Man, thats Stone Cold!

  23. Strategicdust says:

    I’d agree that the QB selection (if there is one) will come late. I’d like to see Wilson in the 5th but think some team other than the Hawks will draft him earlier. I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out to be either Austin Davis or Chandler Harnish; I think both of those guys will be available late enough to get a look.
    Outside of another pass rusher, it seems strange not to focus the rest of the draft on the offense. Isn’t that where we struggled the most last year? If we select Upshaw or Ingram, that would allow the Seahawks to use them either at DL or LB which might allow us the flexibility to not choose a pure DL or LB with another high pick. After the first round, I’d like them to go RB, OL, WR, QB and perhaps TE.

  24. I hope they take Wilson in the 6th round (I doubt he’ll be there) just so they can cut the cheater/thief. All indications point to Wilson being a good guy. Move Portis to SS or something then I won’t care about his stupidity.

    Third OT – USC blitzes and a guy coming for Luck totally ran a million yards around DeCastro instead of going at him (took himself out of the play). Scared little girl. LOL! This is good comic relief.

    They score a TD on a run where DeCastro destroyed that poor sap trying to make a play = open hole to run through. I mean, literally, that guy got pounded into the ground worse than a nail getting hammered into jello by Paul Bunyan (even thought he used an axe instead of a hammer, but you get the point).

  25. rotoworld reporting Dolphins owner wants Tannenhill more than Mike Sherman. Okay. WTF? Moron owner wants Tannenhill more than his college coach? Mr. Happy has been pretty spot on with his analysis of his former players, yet Ross wants Tannenhill more than his college coach?

    I guess Harbaugh is a moron for passing on Sherman and Baldwin though.

    Can any of you imagine what the 49ers would look like with Sherman AND Baldwin if Harbaugh wasn’t dumb enough to pass on them like he did? Instead, he’s stupid enough to allow them to go to other places and, lucky for us, they are both in Seattle!

    Maybe we should draft more Stanford players? :)

    Eric,
    I saw your mock of Hightower earlier today. Do you think he’s a guy who could get 4-6 sacks this year as a 3rd down pass rusher for Big Red (after having stuffed the run on 1st/2nd down at Mike)? If so, I’m in. As a MLB, he kind of reminds me of EJ Henderson of the Vikes (maybe formerly, soon). That’s actually a compliment, as Henderson is good, when healthy. Trouble is, he’s older now and always has been injury prone (but that has nothing to do w/Hightowner). However, I have no interest in a non-pass rushing LB in the first unless he can’t rush the passer, as well. But, hey, if he can stuff the run on 1st/2nd down AND then get some pressure for Big Red on 3rd down(s), I’m all in! That’s a pretty unique package (an edge rushing MLB).

  26. I hope Schneid doesn’t have to trade up to get DeCastro. We get him and Okung/Lynch are pro bowlers that hopefully don’t get to attend as they prepare for their next game((fingers crossed).

  27. Soggybuc says:

    2013 mock draft: Inspired by BobbyK,

    RD.1 Walter Jones
    2 Steve Hutchinson
    3 Robbie Tobeck
    4 Bruce Matthews
    5 Conrad Dobler
    6 Carl Nicks
    7 Aaron Murray

  28. Palerydr says:

    I don’t think they are done with the QB position yet. It’s hard to know how they feel about Portis as you rarely hear about him. All reports that I’ve been able to gather indicate they really like him the problem for me is how much? With that in mind if Cousins or Osweiler are available in the 3rd it wouldn’t surprise me to see them grab 1 of them.

  29. It’s a Win Now league and taking a QB with any of this year’s picks makes no sense if there are other areas to improve upon (DE, LB, WR, RB). Flynn was this year’s QB draft choice. They’ve obviously elected to roll with him for this year and will re-evaluate the QB position next year. That’ll give Portis another year to develop, leaving TJAX as a veteran backup.

    A perfect draft would see Seattle drafting impact players with each pick this year. That is, finding players that start and/or contribute significant snaps this year. The NFC West is no longer a joke (well, Arizona…) and is only going to get tougher with St Louis’ future draft stock and Fisher.

    I don’t care who PC/JS/JC draft this year as long as they have a role and contribute immediately. The higher the pick, the bigger the contribution.

    Remember, Carroll doesn’t have tenure and in 3 years he’s not even .500. He needs a great season. Now. Or he’s getting a pink slip.

  30. HawkfaninMT says:

    I don’t think Carroll’s seat is hot yet. Even if another 7-9 or 8-8 season were to occur. The hawks have a pretty tough schedule and as long as they continue to be competitive and show signs of life I think PC is safe for the the life of his contract at least.

    That being said, I completely agree with you about them drafting players that contribute. Maybe I am being spoiled by these last couple of drafts, but I expect to leave each draft now with 3-4 starters. Whether it be LB, WR, RB, OL, DL, Nickle CB; doesn’t really matter to me. There are spots to draft starters this week and I hope PC/JS come through

  31. Soggybuc says:

    Nekko I believe Carroll has until 2014. Paul Allen is a patient man and while it doesnt show in the win column yet it is easy to see that PC/JS have quickly stopped the down hill slide and the team is on the way back up the hill.
    Also from a business view fan enthusiasm is high which means ticket sales are too as well as jerseys etc.

    I was wondering that about Portis too Pale, my only guess is that they like Portis but see Tannehill as far ahead of him skill and potential wise.

  32. RDPoulsbo says:

    If they didn’t pick up Flynn, I would have been happy with Cousins in the 2nd. With him and T-Jack along with Portis, I see no reason to draft a QB at all this year. They like Portis so there’s no pressing need to upgrade the scout QB position. They might make a move next year, but as of now, those lower picks would be better used on depth on the OL or LB and help on ST.

  33. mojjonation says:

    pabu…If Seattle moves up ahead of Miami to take Tanne, Shula will personally make a drive to Seattle and take out PC and JS. He’s the reason the Pats lost the undefeated Superbowl to the Giants.

    There are plenty of QB’s for Miami to overpay/draft higher than anticipated. If the Fins owner hs such a hard on for Tanne, he will take him. After getting burned by every QB in FA, everyone in the Fins FO is ready to ask Jeff George to come out of retirement. Just because there hasn’t been a guard drafted in the top half of the first round, doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Look at Tanne. He has gone from a 2nd round pick, to first round, to top half of first round, to top ten, to possibly the number three pick. All because he looked good in shorts and a t-shirt at the combine. Teams who take someone out of need are on thing. Teams who take someone out of desparate need are something else.

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