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TNT 2011 draft preview: QBs to consider

Post by Eric Williams on April 24, 2011 at 8:05 am with 13 Comments »
April 24, 2011 8:06 am
Florida State quarterback Christian Ponder. (AP file photo)

Happy Easter everyone. We continue our positional look at this year’s draft class with a breakdown of the quarterbacks. The Seahawks are considering selecting a quarterback in the first round for the first time since 1993 because Matt Hasselbeck will be a free agent and they are not totally sold on Charlie Whitehurst as the quarterback of the future.
But as my story today goes into greater detail, none of the quarterbacks in this year’s draft are exactly slam dunks to be franchise quarterbacks at the next level.

Add to that the lack of the success Seattle has had selecting quarterbacks in the first round, and you can understand what John Schneider and Pete Carroll might consider selecting an offensive or defensive linemen instead.

Seattle selected Dan McGwire No. 16 overall in the 1991 draft. The younger brother of major league slugger Mark McGwire, Dan McGwire, at 6-foot-8, never showed the accuracy and mobility need to be successful in the pros, and was out of the league five years later.

Two years into the McGwire experiment, Seattle selected Rick Mirer No. 2 overall in 1993. After a strong rookie season Mirer’s play regressed, and the Notre Dame product was shipped to Chicago in 1997. Mirer finished his NFL career as a journeyman, playing for five teams in eight seasons.

The Seahawks traded three picks, including a first-rounder in 1988, for the rights to Kelly Stouffer, who held out for an entire season after the St. Louis Cardinals selected him No. 6 overall in the 1987 draft. Stouffer retired after five mostly uninspiring seasons in Seattle.

The combined win-loss record of those quarterbacks with Seattle was 27-45.

Our own John McGrath of the Tacoma News Tribune believes the Seahawks would be making a grave mistake similar to the Seattle Mariners passing on University of Washington product pitcher Tim Lincecum, if they do not select Jake Locker if he’s available at No. 25

Rob Rang, senior draft analyst with NFLDraftScout.com, reviews quarterbacks Seattle might select in each round of this year’s draft.

First round, 25th pick: Christian Ponder, 6-2, 230, Florida State
Rob’s rationale: Entered his senior season ranked with Jake Locker as the top senior QBs, but struggled through injuries. Threw well at the Senior Bowl and combine and is considered by some the most pro-ready QB in the draft.
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Second ROUND, 57th pick: Andy Dalton, 6-2, 215, TCU
Rob’s rationale: Like Ponder, an ideal fit in the West Coast offense due to his intelligence, accuracy and timing. Scouts love his leadership and toughness. Likely would require trading up to draft him.
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Fourth round, 99th pick: Ricky Stanzi, 6-4, 233, Iowa
Rob’s rationale: Classic game-manager who lacks elite upside, but has good size, experience in a pro-style offense and an underrated combination of accuracy and mobility.
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Fifth round, 156th, 157th picks: Pat Devlin, 6-3, 225, Delaware
Rob’s rationale: Starred in a spread offense, showing good accuracy and instincts, but his lack of arm strength was exposed at the East-West Shrine Game.
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Sixth round, 173RD pick: Nathan Enderle, 6-4, 240, Idaho
Rob’s rationale: Big, strong-armed passer who didn’t progress as scouts anticipated as a senior, but has upside worthy of developing.
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Seventh round, 209th and 242nd picks: T.J. Yates, 6-3, 219, North Carolina
Rob’s rationale: Showed remarkable leadership in guiding the Tar Heels to a successful season despite multiple suspensions. Doesn’t wow you, but could stick on an NFL roster.
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  1. Maybe just trade our 1st and 2nd rounder this year for extra picks next season and not improve, play a tougher schedule, and get Luck next year (in addition to having a Patriots-like amount of picks)?

    Either that, or draft Ponder and go OL in the 2nd round so the poor guy doesn’t add to his injury history. I would be happy with Ponder.

  2. Of those QB’s listed, I like pretty much all of them, although I’m not completely sold on Dalton. Yates did a lot of great things at UNC this year, especially when the talent on the roster who was allowed to play is taken into consideration.

  3. raymaines says:

    The last paragraph of Eric’s story makes me very sad:

    “Some of the clubs that I’ve been with, some of the worst drafts we’ve had are where you get nervous and you feel like you’ve got to have a guy,” Schneider said. “And maybe you give up something to go get a guy, or you push a guy based purely on need, and that’s where you can get into a lot of trouble.”

    This is from our very own John Schneider, who paid way too much for CW. It doesn’t give me much confidence about the SeaHawks selection in the first round.

  4. Dukeshire says:

    Happy Easter to you, Eric. And thanks for yesterday, that was good fun.

    I too would be happy with Ponder, but it would depend on who else was available at #25. Ultimately, he seems like a bit of a reach at #25 but there is no chance he slides past the early part of the second, with as many teams in need of a QB. He’s the QB I’d like most (outside Gabbert) in this class and if they want he, they’ll likely have to pull the trigger at #25.

    Stanzi is another guy in the middle part of the draft that I’d be very interested in. I think he’s the most underrated QB of this entire class.

  5. Dukeshire says:

    raymaines – Well, he’s referring to the draft and I’m glad he recognizes that is a terrible trap to fall into. He’s mentioned several times that you simply have to avoid reaching for a guy and stay true to your board. I think the ‘Hawks’ draft is in good hands.

    And for what it’s worth, I’d prefer McElroy over Yates (who I like, but seems likely to be a UFA) and Enderle. McElroy seems to be down-graded because he was surrounded by great talent. I think he too is really underrated.

  6. SeahawkFan12 says:

    I kinda like bobbyk’s idea of trading away 1st and 2nd round picks for extra picks, but it would be predicated on THE best OL/DL not being available.

    There is something weird about the Jake Locker thing, so somebody please help me out. I have long been against his being drafted by Seattle. I know the homers want him, but there are a lot of reasons why it could be disastrous for him to try to be “the answer’ in Seattle. But at the same time, I read stuff from seemingly smart people who argue his merits and I wonder if he MIGHT be the best option. It is difficult when you consider Luck coming out next year, but I have never been (nor will ever be) a guy who votes for throwing games–let alone an entire season–just to get a shot at drafting a particular player.

    I’m still not a fan of taking Locker, but if he’s there, would it be the “best” pick if OL/DL help is gone, too? Please help me understand (beside “because he’s a Husky, dude!”) why Locker makes sense…or doesn’t.

    And Happy Easter!

  7. What’s wrong with the kid from bama.has a good arm,hits what he is throwing to.He is smart can catch on fast.
    We can trade down with the bills,or cinn,or nashville.pick up a second and third picks.Go for a OL and Dl with the twos and a cb with the three.Take the QB from Bama with our fourth pick.

    Did every one to church this morning like good little boys and girls!

  8. That is a good list by Rang, but I would add possibilities for Mallet at #25 and Greg McElroy at #157 or #173 to the list.

    All of the QBs have a question or two about them and we can’t afford a miss on #25 or #57, so I am hoping the hawks stay away from a QB in round 1 & 2. I would prefer them to either trade a 2012 pick for Kolb or resign Hass.

    It will be interesting to see where the QB’s go…. where and when they go will be the story of the draft.

  9. hawkdawg says:

    Doesn’t like to get into positions where he gets nervous and feels like he has to have a guy? That is exactly what happened just last year, with Whitehurst AND Okung!

  10. I’m not a “homer” by any stretch of the imagination, but I remember debate in Minnesota about whether to take Joe Mauer or Mark Prior with the #1 overall pick.

    On one hand, people wanted the “home” boy. The others said there would be too much pressure here for him to succeed.

    I believe that if you’re good, you’re going to be good (given a somewhat respectable supporting cast in the case of a professional quarterback) in almost any environment.

  11. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    What kind of idiot would pass on Locker because Luck happens to be in the draft? We’d have to be a special kind of terrible to earn the #1 overall pick to get him. Barkley and Landry Jones are both criminally overrated and I’d take several QBs in this draft over either of them.

    And McElroy does not deserve a spot on an NFL roster. He has a noodle arm, he’s short and slight , and nothing more than a game manager in college. Much rather gamble on someone with physical talent like Enderle panning out.

  12. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “Add to that the lack of the success Seattle has had selecting quarterbacks in the first round, and you can understand what John Schneider and Pete Carroll might consider selecting an offensive or defensive linemen instead.”

    That is quite possibly the dumbest rationale I have ever read. Who gives a flying you know what about how the previous regimes did in drafting QBs? Just because they were stunningly incompetent doesn’t mean they should have any bearing on Pete and John.

  13. Dukeshire says:

    “And McElroy does not deserve a spot on an NFL roster. He has a noodle arm, he’s short and slight…”

    McElroy measured 6’2″ 220lbs at the combine. As for “noodle arm”, perhaps this will help put that to rest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQPVv4pafN8

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