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Post by Eric Williams on Oct. 27, 2009 at 12:37 pm with 38 Comments »
October 27, 2009 3:51 pm
2009 Stats Seahawks Cowboys
Record 2-4 4-2
Total Yards Gained 1,861 2,516
Total Offense (NFLRank) 310.2 (23) 419.3 (2)
Rush Offense 90.3 (28) 153.3 (4)
Pass Offense 219.8 (18) 266.0 (9)
Points Per Game 19.7 (22) 26.5 (10)
Total Yards Allowed 1,918 2,087
Total Defense 319.7 (12) 347.8 (22)
Rush Defense 99.3 (14) 109.3 (16)
Pass Defense 220.3 (T16) 238.5 (22)
Points Allowed/Game 18.2 (t7) 19.8 (14)
Possession Avg. 28:25 29:54
Sacked/Yds. Lost 15/97 11/56
Sacks Made/Yds. Lost 16/95 14/89
Interceptions By 3 4
Penalties/Yds. 27/226 45/381
Punts/Avg. 30/49.9 26/46.3
Turnover Differential -2 (t20) -2 (t20)
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  1. brosco13 says:

    Good thing i have Romo and Austin for my fantasy squad, but not looking good for the hawks going up agains that explosive offense. I hope they can contain Dallas enough to get a W and still score some points for my fantansy team. Im battling for first place!

  2. Our D better be on their game – didn’t realize Dallas offense was that highly rated. Between Barber, Felix Jones, Tashard Choice, that may be the best group of backs (outside of Minnesota) that we face all year.

    And w/r/t our offense – we can’t have another terrible start — if Dallas knows we have to pass – our 0-line won’t come close to holding up.

  3. They have 3 RBs better than any of ours.

  4. bird_spit says:

    “They have 3 RBs better than any of ours.”

    That is expected in a TR offense. Offense hasnt seen near the money thrown at it, and plenty of good folks not resigned. (mo, weaver). I bet you tickets to the next Seahawk superbowl that having Weaver here in ’09 would have helped the situation. He was a dynamic outlet for Hass.

  5. Long live the tandem of Curt Warner and John L Williams!

  6. “Offense hasnt seen near the money thrown at it, and plenty of good folks not resigned. (mo, weaver). I bet you tickets to the next Seahawk superbowl that having Weaver here in ’09 would have helped the situation. He was a dynamic outlet for Hass. ”

    I agree to an extent – though we have to admit that he did shell out the $ for Branch and Housh. Again, the Deon Butler pick seems goofy – we probably could have gotten a serviceable RB in the third round – if we knew (and we should’ve known) that Mo and Weaver weren’t coming back, then RB was more of a need than WR for us.

    BTW, neither of Weaver or Mo has gotten much of the ball on their new teams -I knew about Weaver, but was surprised to see how little Mo has seen action.

  7. Thinking about it – the role of FB’s leaguewide has really shifted, hasn’t it?

    Are there any fullbacks left out there like John L. Williams, Alstott, or Rathman? Guys who caught 50+ passes, and ran for 700+ yds? Maybe it’s just escaping me, but I can’t think of any right now . . .

  8. IdahoHawk says:

    The Deon Butler pick in the third round was just a case of who’s the highest player left on Seattles board.
    I’m surprised to see the defense ranking in mid pack after two Offense moved up and down the field with them.

  9. what would be all are ranks if we hadn’t played Stl or Jax? I hope we show up at least a little, we don’t need another Colts fiasco. Please make it a game.

  10. nightwulf says:

    Tru,
    what would be the ranks if we hadn’t played Indy or AZ? We can play that game all day…

  11. AZ was in our house though

  12. Oh, well since AZ came to qwest, I guess that means that games stats aren’t reflected on the overall stats.

    Thanks for clearing that up for me TruBlu.

  13. bird_spit says:

    Ok Branch…. I won’t say Housch in the same sentence as my previous for obvious reasons. But you would have to admit, since TR killed the OL in ’06, we have not seen production from the offense. And I bet if we stacked the dollars spent on D vs O it would be obvious. That said, I have no numbers to back that up. It would be an interesting study though.

    This weekend I started thinking maybe TR is ok. If he can construct an O as well as he did a D.. But then I dismissed that. Cause I feel he could have/ should have constructed them both. And the truth is, our DL maybe just a few injuries away from the current OL in terms of production. Where are the quality backups.

    Then I think TR does not place as much weight in the Lines as I would. Not to say I am GM material, but I have stayed at a holiday inn. He has placed a lot of emphasis on receivers on O, and LB in the D. The receiver corps, probably because injuries and all of those drops in ’05 and ’06. He spent a lot on the LBs, and secondary, because ? Because he did not emphasis the Lines, IMO. You can’t say the lines have been the strength of this team lately.

    I think next Sunday we are going to see how big the holes in both lines are.

  14. bird_spit says:

    I’m sure someone here posted this by now..guess I’m late the party. This is an excellent article, and basically says I dont do enough research on Ruskell’s picks. Thankfully others do:
    http://sea.scout.com/2/912296.html

  15. freedom_X says:

    The Weaver and Morris losses were pretty insignificant all things considered. If some guys have to move on, it might as well have been them. What would either be adding now? Seattle doesn’t use the fullback to do anything but block. Morris wasn’t going to do anything Jones, Forsett, or even James is doing now.

    Obviously, if Philadelphia (which has a West Coast style attack) and Detriot aren’t using those guys much, it isn’t as though we lost two All-Pro talents through misevaluation.

    The sea.scout.com article was pretty interesting, especially on Mike Solari. I’ve seen a comment or two elsewhere about replacing Solari – I strongly oppose this. The line is actually performing a lot better than the talent level would indicate. Seattle has an O-line of a 2-14 team talentwise, right now. Based on the O-line talent only, Seattle could and should be winless. Solari’s getting a lot out of a little, it’s just there’s so little to start with.

  16. Butler is/was a solid pick. I won’t complain about it. Remember, Nate will be a FA after next year, TJ is older, and we all know Branch won’t be on the team in ’10. I have a feeling that in a year or two we will all be perfectly happy with Butler (as we should with any 3rd rounder). My only problem with the Butler pick was TR trading a 5th and 7th this past year AND our 3rd rounder in 2010. Yes, it’s all roses that we have two 1st rounders, but we’re missing a 3rd rounder and those are the guys you get at good salary slots who have talent and contribute (like Butler himself). In the final analysis, I support the trading of that 3rd, 5th, and 7th round picks for the right to draft Butler late in the 3rd this past year. Still, we can’t keep trading all these picks to move up all the time… but then I want to slap myself b/c every time TR has done this, they have all worked out (head spinning). So, what am I trying to say? I don’t know. Maybe I just wanted to write something other than how bad I hate our injury prone offensive line.

  17. “But you would have to admit, since TR killed the OL in ’06, we have not seen production from the offense. And I bet if we stacked the dollars spent on D vs O it would be obvious.”

    Yeah, i’d agree – i think that it just seemed like coming off that super bowl year, that our offense was the strong link on the team, and the unit that needed help was the D.

    Not to start a fight yet again, but i remember how the Hutch situation went down, and I don’t blame TR for it. And maybe he should’ve known, but I don’t blame him for failing to foresee that Shaun would go downhill so quickly. Tobeck and Gray clearly were on their last years, but we’ve tried to replace them – I guess you could say our talent evaluations (Spencer, Sims, Willis, Wrotto) haven’t really been up to par – but we have tried to fill those spots.

  18. “Butler is/was a solid pick. I won’t complain about it. Remember, Nate will be a FA after next year, TJ is older, and we all know Branch won’t be on the team in ’10. ”

    Why? We needed O-Lineman and RB’s more than another WR. And I really have very little idea whether Butler is good or not (he hasn’t played enough), so it’s not a knock on him, it’s just that when you have positions with depth, and positions where it is lacking – it makes sense to fill those in. Remember that we also have Obu (who gets no time), and we cut your guy Logan Payne too.

  19. I think you have to blame TR for it. There had been “poison pill” filled contracts in prior years. Look at the early 1990s and Will Wolford. Look at Morton and the pissing match b/w the Redskins/Jets only a few years before the Hutch situation. And then to have the guts to tell Holmy that he would be franchised and all of a sudden pull the plug from that decision was total BS.

    I do think Willis has been up to par. He’s not very good in pass pro, but makes up for it in the running game. He’s an average OL. He’s not going to any Pro Bowls, but he’s not bad. Bad is our Left side against AZ. That’s want to puke terrible.

    As of this season, Sims is turning out to not be a bust, but he’s certainly not overly good either. He just doesn’t suck anymore. Hey, I’m fine with Willis/Sims on our OL but they can’t be the stregths of the team/OL. They aren’t that good. They would need to be the “other” guys that make the line go. They can’t be “the guys” because that means they are better than everyone else and that’s not a good scenario. I do think if Willis had a stud player by them, that we would be better. I guess any great player would make the players around them better too. That’s why I have been drinking the Jahri Evans kool aid so hard the last week. He’s the best RG in the NFL and he’s make any RT better than they already are (same for a C).

  20. “Bad is our Left side against AZ. That’s want to puke terrible. ”

    Agree – but there’s not a team in the league that could withstand injuries to their top four Left Tackles. It’s really just a bad run of injury luck to have so many injuries at the same position. Again.

  21. bird_spit says:

    Bad luck would be your stud 29 yo LT gets injured in game 1 and your 27 yo backup gets injured in game 2.

    We have no plan for our 36 yo stud LT other than our stud RT, which has our so-so RT backing him up. Same goes for LG.. Our plan was to use our sub-standard LG backup to replace our injured – before he got here LG.

    This isn’t bad luck, this is bad management. I really want to give Ruskell a pass, but I can’t. The friggin’ line is that important, especially since they guard your 35 yo injured QBs back.

  22. Dukeshire says:

    bird_spit – O-line I’d agree with but not d-line. Last year he signed Cole and Redding and drafted Reed. In ’08 drafted Jackson and Bryant and signed dud Tripplett. In ’07 drafted Mebane and Atkins and signed Kerney.. Drafted Tapp in ’06. That’s not the entire list but off the top of my head that is a pretty aggressive effort dedicated to the d-line, I think. The d line is the least of this team problems.

  23. Is it bad luck that one of those guys was coming back from microfracture surgery? We had no idea that it was possible he wouldn’t be ready for the season? It shouldn’t be a shock that hardly anyone comes back from a procedure like this well under a years time, much less a 300lb man who is closer to his 40th birthday than his 30th. And is it bad luck that Lock has an alarming injury history in the last 3 years? I’ll agree that the Frye injury sucked but he was waiver wire material in the first place. As I’ve said before, when you have players who have a history of injury (Spencer/Sims/and Lock has joined this group) should we really be surprised when the get hurt or should we continue to blame it on “bad luck?”

  24. Dukeshire says:

    I don’t see how Ruskell can escape responsibility for the condition of the o-line. It’s been said countless times and is 100% true that this isn’t a fluke, one year aberration. Injuries started biting this line in ’07. We all know that every starter was placed on IR at some point in ’08 and no plan B was installed in the very likely event ’09 was a repeat of the previous year and a half. And this was a team that was going to emphasis the run? Sure. And no, this isn’t a case of hindsight. Many, many people on this blog were talking about this a year ago.

  25. Dukeshire says:

    *place an emphasis*

  26. Does anyone know how much we will save under the cap after the year is over when Kerney (in all probability – if he doesn’t restructure) and Branch (in certainty) are released? Plus, the cap is going up again… Maybe we can start a Jahri Evans fund?

  27. yellaman says:

    Sound like the info this summer about big walt being done was more acurate than first given credit by the organization. This is just another reason for a change of leadership at the top of the organization(Ruskell?) should have prepared for Jones and Wahle absences. Putting locklear @ LT wasn’t never a serious option in my book because locklear has been hurt alot lately. Spencer and Sims have not worked @ C & RG respectfully. Ruskell stated when he took the job that the front 7 on offense and defense would be a priority and look at where we are the weekest. Also, look at how much draft picks and FA money we have put into the defense side of the ball which was supposed to be a team strength. I don’t see it look at our rating in team defense and I expect more. The offense has a 1RD pick in Branch not starting, an aging but still viable QB in hasselback if he can stay healthy behind such a bad O-line, no premier RB on the team and rookie(or relatively young) coahing staff not getting it done

  28. Overall, I think we have a pretty good defense. The biggest weakness on our defense is our offensive line (and not free safety, contrary to popular opinion).

    If that makes no sense to you, well you need to realize that our defense is on the field too much since our offense can’t sustain drives, nor do they get to play with leads as often as they would if they had a good OL. And this problem IS the OL. It’s not the QB or receivers who aren’t getting the job done. The QB doesn’t have time to throw and the receivers aren’t, on average, getting enough time to run their routes either. All of this is because of the sh!tty offensive line.

    I stick to my guns that if you don’t include OL rankings, that we have one of the better teams in the NFL. We have a good/great QB. Our WRs, as a group, are well above average, we have a good TE, and we have a good defense. IMO – if every team in the NFL had the same talent in the NFL… we would be a 12-4 type of team with legitimate Super Bowl aspirations. Instead, we have what we have on the OL and many are looking more forward to FA and the draft rather than the Dallas game this weekend.

  29. “same talent on its OL”

  30. yellaman says:

    whose fault is it for the Ol problems? this is 2 straight years with injuries and now 4 straight yrs of questionable OL line play remember we left hutch leave and have gotten older on the Ol and nobody has replaced the talent at these position. we wasted picks

  31. bird_spit says:


    We have a good/great QB. Our WRs, as a group, are well above average, we have a good TE, and we have a good defense.

    Absolutely agreed, other than we have a soon to be great TE. Last game was a fluke.

    If we had an above average line, we would be competitive. I look forward to the day we can put this topic away.

    BTW– that day is the day that we get a high quality GM in place. I wouldn’t mind if the Paul Allen Inc takes all season to find a good replacement. I would love for them to announce that TR is a lame duck. It would be fitting as TR did that to Holmy.

  32. bird_spit says:

    Here is a bit of trivia. Or maybe the smoking gun to the seahawk’s injury bug.

    Did any one notice that the injure bug started about the same time as Paul Allen sold the 757 that was used to shuttle the team? Man – we need to find that airplane and get it back.

    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2007/08/25/paul-allen-sells-private-plane-seahawks-flights-just-got-less/

  33. Some of the goofier things I’ve read here lately were posted to this comments thread:

    “the Deon Butler pick seems goofy”

    Really? Have you seen Deion Branch play lately? Ruskell knew the team needed a third WR and needed one badly. Spending a third-round draft pick on Butler was a solid move. It filled both a major team need and was the best player available. In one comment, you say that Ruskell “killed the OL” because he failed to have multiple starters available at all five positions to prepare for potential injuries… in the next breath you say it was “goofy” to draft a WR when we only had 3 starting caliber WRs, two of whom had been injured all of 2008. Hmmm… goofy.

    “you would have to admit, since TR killed the OL in ’06, we have not seen production from the offense.”

    TR “killed the OL”? No, Injuries did. And the loss of Hutchinson, which happened not because TR didn’t try to sign Hutch; he did try. TR got scammed by the Vikings and the NFL Special Master, who approved a sleazy poison pill contract which under any non-corrupted system would have been disallowed. TR invested in the OL by drafting Spencer, Sims, Unger, and by signing Willis and Locklear to contracts. Due to recent injuries, those investments were obviously less than enough. But, clearly INJURIES have killed the OL, not TR. There is nothing wrong with Locklear. Sims and Spencer are just now entering their prime and only need to say healthy for a few games to begin to show what good players they have both become. Willis is a serviceable and inexpensive OT. Unger isn’t much yet, but he has potential to become good with a year or two of experience. TR has under-invested in the OL because he inherited a team which, after 2004 was in desperate need of investments in its poor defense. Also, TR never anticipated an unprecedented two-year run of multiple injuries to O lineman. People don’t predict things that have never happened before, not even TR.

    “maybe he should’ve known, but I don’t blame him [Ruskell] for failing to foresee that Shaun would go downhill so quickly.”

    That’s an interesting take, but what makes you think Ruskell ever had any choice about re-signing Shaun Alexander? The deal happened immediately after Ruskell was hired into his new job. I doubt it was his decision; it looked like the decision of ownership responding to a fan base that was over-the-moon in love with Shaun after a 28-TD MVP season. Not signing Shaun would have too difficult a PR and marketing decision for the team ownership to swallow. I doubt there was any leeway for the brand-new GM to do anything about that.

    “We have a good/great QB. Our WRs, are well above average, we have a good TE, and we have a good defense… If we had an above average line, we would be competitive. I look forward to the day we can put this topic away. BTW– that day is the day that we get a high quality GM in place.”

    There is not a single team in the NFL that is solid in every unit on the field. None. Its by design. Its not because there are no good GMs. Scott Pioli, Jerry Reese, and Kevin Colbert all GM for teams that have a weak unit or two. Its because of the salary cap. The caps purpose is to keep every NFL team from becoming the New York Yankees. Look at the best teams in the NFL: New Orleans has weaknesses on defense, so do the Colts, but they both compensate by scoring 1000 points a game. As for the other teams, its pretty obvious they all have weak units. The Seahawks one weak unit is the offensive line, and it is not clear that unit would be weak if three starters had not been injured.

  34. Bird-spit: My take on the article: http://sea.scout.com/2/912296.html is that it is narrowly defined to three positions. Well researched, but not exactly a fair critique.

  35. Walter Jones = IR . Long Live you sir. You are a walking legend

  36. In response to the salary cap post: I heard there might not be a cap next season. An agreement has not been worked out..

    Isn’t the fact that Hass has recovered quickly from the rib injury not a sign that he’s not as fragile as some of you describe him? The P.Willis hit may have put any QB on the bench for awhile.. He made a quicker recovery than Mcnabb..

    Anybody know who’s going to start on the Oline this weekend?
    McIntosh, Sims, Spencer, Unger & Willis?

  37. When you have a bunch of injury prone OL why do you b!tch and think it’s bad luck when they get hurt all the time? Yeah… lets go into ’10 with a bunch of injury prone sh!tholes so we can b!tch about how next year gets ruined too.

  38. ‘Some of the goofier things I’ve read here lately were posted to this comments thread:

    “the Deon Butler pick seems goofy” ‘

    That one was mine – so i’ll defend it. It’s goofy b/c I disagree with you that WR was a position of need – and if it is, then you need to answer why Butler has barely seen the field this year, and has really added zero to the team (not saying he’s not good – just not needed right now). And if your answer is that we need one for next year – then I think maybe we could have drafted one then, or waited until a later round. Just seems to me that for this season, given that we had TJ, Nate, Branch, and Obu, receiver was not nearly as much a position of need as O-Line or RB.

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