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DT Cole in Seattle

Post by Eric Williams on Feb. 28, 2009 at 12:04 pm with 20 Comments »
February 28, 2009 12:04 pm

Team sources confirmed an earlier report by the National Football Report that Green Bay free agent defensive tackle Colin Cole is in Seattle talking with Seahawks officials about the possibility of joining the club.



Cole is relatively young (28), and with Seattle needing help up front, at 6-foot-1, 330 pounds, the Seahawks might get him at a reasonable rate.


Offensive tackle Jon Stinchcomb, rumored to be interested in Seattle, signed a five-year deal with to stay with New Orleans today.


Here’s the scouting report from ESPN on Cole:


Cole is big, powerful and stout. He has the great strength to anchor the middle and works with a low center of gravity and good pad level. He often draws double-teams and still has the initial quickness and gap penetration to be disruptive. He can push the pocket, but he needs to expand his pass-rush arsenal. He lacks great hand use and has trouble separating from blockers.



He doesn’t feel pad pressure well or work effectively to his gap responsibility. He has been more consistent in his effort lately, but even more improvement is needed. Cole was banged up and missed much of the season in 2007, but he has the talent to be a productive starter. Green Bay likely will try to re-sign Cole to keep their strong defensive line rotation well-stocked.

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  1. This and the Canty visit really has me thinking about what Mora is up to on the defensive side of the ball. Canty and Cole aren’t fast guys who we’ve wanted in our 4-3 the last few years. Ruskell has wanted Darby “try hard” undersized types who can get after it.

    This makes me think even more about Mebane becoming the Warren Sapp in our 4-3. He did get 5.5 sacks this past season as the guy who wasn’t supposed to be the sack guy inside, whereas Bernard, the supposed pass rusher, had less sacks, while having and easier role of being the DT sack artist.

    These big guys (Canty/Cole) also have me thinking about some 3-4 stuff that we’ve talked about in previous posts.

    These guys don’t exactly “fit” into what we’ve done in the past and I know there’s a reason they are being pursued — Mora has a plan and IMO it’s going to be fun to watch.

  2. Dukeshire says:

    What are the details on the Cassel deal?

  3. 2nd rounder for Matt and Mike. The Pats will now pick in front of us in the 2nd.

  4. snydro22 says:

    Cassel and Vrabel for the Cheifs 2009 second-round pick.. That’s the whole deal..

  5. OutSydeDog says:

    Is Cole an upgrade over Benard? If he is, why are the Giants talking to Rocky? Would we save money, signing Cole over Rocky? Are teams signing new players with about the same abilities as the players they let walk, and the net result is higher salaries? Bored minds want to know…lol

    GO HAWKS!!!

  6. For KCs 2nd pick

  7. If thats the whole deal then this must be a cap space deal? Are the Pats gunna try to snag someone in FA? What do they need? Lb, S, CB? I cant think of much else.

  8. Dukeshire says:

    How is Cole an upgrade from anything the ‘Hawks already have? I’m not totally against Canty, but he’ll be expensive and come with fans unreasonable expectations.

    I don’t know about Bernard and “sack artist” in the same sentence. He had 8.5 in ’05 but hasn’t reached half that total before or since. I’m not knocking him, I like him. But artist?? lol

  9. turboskylinegtr says:

    Mora/Ruskell had big DTs (rod coleman) in atlanta, and quick DEs. I think they are shifting to that mentality with the (what i would consider) failed experiment of using undersized DTs. Thats how the 4-3 traditionally works anyway.

    Dukeshire – my point about canty being tall was that he doesnt have the fat that traditional DTs have, and that he is a situational guy, a ‘tweener of sorts in terms of 4-3 DL. Maybe my posts dont accurately portray when we’d use him, but i believe he would spend most of his time inside, and move outside in certain situations (think 3rd and 1) or in giving different looks to confuse the offense. it is also complete speculation. im not saying you are wrong about his speed by any means (and i wouldnt think he would serve as a speed guy) but i have yet to come across a report that says hes slow off the ball. granted i havent seen quick off the ball either, but could you find a report of that?

    heres PFW’s scout report on him:
    Strengths: Canty has long arms and can close down passing lanes. He gets good leverage and can drive and move big offensive tackles. Canty adequately takes on double-teams and will surprise once in a while with his pass-rush technique. As right ends go, he’s a strong run defender — and those are hard to find. His experience in the system and coachability are both big positives for 3-4 teams.

    Weaknesses: Scouts have said for two years that Canty lacks a mean streak and needs to play with a lot more ferocity, which would make him a terror given his rare physical skills. No one has expected him to put up big sack totals, but Canty’s lack of forced fumbles and other big plays have been surprising for a three-down player. He has been a slow starter the past few seasons, although he has finished strong. That said, there are some who question Canty’s motor just a bit and believe that top-notch tackles can neutralize him.

    Risk factor: Low. Canty had two serious injuries his senior season at UVA that caused him to fall from the first round to a fourth-round pick, but he has played every game — starting the past 48 — since entering the league in 2005. He is what he is, a good base 3-4 end who can kick inside to tackle in four-man-front pass defenses, and the market is almost certainly not going to reach Kelly heights. Canty won’t make a ton of plays for you, and his ceiling might not be much higher, so you know pretty much what you are getting.

  10. I’m calling it the more I read. Ray Lewis is going to the Patriots

  11. “Sack artist” is what we’re supposed to have in that role (ie Warren Sapp type of rush guy). I didn’t say that’s what he was. That’s what he is supposed to be. But he’s not. We all know that.

  12. The sky is blue, but I don’t think I should have to point that out.

  13. sscotchman says:

    I am beginning to think that the team is listening to some of us who believe that we need some beef on the lines. I also am beginning to see some different options on defense just to confuse and from the same ole…same ole that the Hawks had before. Going to be some interesting times if these two picks are secured.

    Hmmmm if these two are picked up, what will happen in draft time?

  14. Dukeshire says:

    turboskylinegtr – I’ll find some other scouting reports and post them. And I’m not offended, or anything. I just don’t see him as a guy that will play the edge (of course there are situations where he might, so maybe I didn’t fully understand what you were saying) in a 4-3.

  15. Dukeshire says:

    BobbyK – The sky? You called him a sack artist and I got a kick out if it.

  16. RichmondHawk says:

    I like the move, sign Cole and or Canty, a veteran WR, a veteran OT then draft Orkapo 4th overall.

  17. I would like that.
    Hey Eric do you think that the hawks will sign anyone today?

  18. If they sign someone I’d like it to be Weaver

  19. Eric Williams says:

    Cole could get done today.

  20. Duke – I said “sack artist” yes – but I didn’t mean it like that… just his position called for being a sack artist to a certain degree more than Mebane’s… I didn’t mean it that bad either:)

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