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Post by Darrin Beene / The News Tribune on Nov. 26, 2007 at 3:38 pm with 23 Comments »
November 26, 2007 3:38 pm

Holmgren had praise for the defense and expressed concern over the offense’s first half. He said outside of Steven Jackson’s 53-yard TD rn in the first quarter, the unit played good and was “up to the task.” He singled out Deon Grant, Marcus Trufant, Kelly Jennings and Patrick Kerney for having solid games. He said Jennings had his best game of the season.


Offense was another matter. He said he thought the unit was “out of sync” until it went into their 2-minute package. He said the Rams showed lots of looks that they had not seen before, and that the Rams did a good job of switching formations late on Hasselbeck. He was very concerned about the line’s protection of Hasselbeck, saying “It is very, very important that he doesn’t get hit like that.” What he liked about the offense was the halftime adjustments that allowed the Seahawks to better handle the Rams pressure and how Hasselbeck played a “courageous game.”


Special teams weren’t so special, Holmgren said. He had stern words for the snapping of Boone Stutz, saying at this point in the season the snapping has to be automatic and that the Seahawks are too much of an adventure right now. Yes, Holmgren used the word adventure. He said there will be an emphasis on snapping this week and that while teams don’t need to make a change just to make a change, if there’s someone who helps make the team better the Seahawks have not hesitated to make a move… He noted that Ryan Plackemeier did an excellent job of getting a high snap down on Josh Brown’s 52 yard miss late in the game. He said he does not think Brown’s the problem.


On penalties, Holmgren was not happy about the flag thrown on Deon Grant late in the game. He said he thought the PI that was called was one of those that “could have been left alone” and that “Isaac Bruce (Rams WR) did a good job of calling that play.” The other issue was a play when Rob Simms had his helmet ripped off and thrown 20 yards down the field … yet no flag. He said the team is sending tape of the play to the league to review.

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  1. Would be interested in who was in charge of making adjustments at halftime, was it a coach who made the changes or maybe a player??

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  2. What are the odds that long snappers are being interviwed right now?

    Of course, they would have to be a former buc or falcon player to land in Seattle. Shouldn’t the supply of former buc and falcon personnel eventually run out?

  3. osoviejo says:

    Frank, is whether or not it’s a catchable pass still a consideration by rule before calling PI? Grant had no impact on the receiver’s path to the ball–which was overthrown by five yards. He was never making that catch.

    And that helmet rip-and-toss was unbelievable. Never seen anything like it. And apparently that’s still true for the officials.

  4. c_hawkbob says:

    Whether one the refs saw the actual infraction take place or not, see a player toss a wrong colored helmet at the end of a play is a pretty good indication than an infraction might have in fact taken place during the play…

  5. VoodooF101 says:

    Well look who the ref was…
    ‘Walt Coleman’
    Considered by many as the worst ref in all of pro sports..
    We just maybe got lucky there weren’t more calls that could have really impacted the game.

  6. PapaHawk says:

    Where’s Sando’s ref-evaluation grid when you need it?

    As for penalties, I hope that Witherspoon is disciplined for his facemask on Morris. I cannot remember the last time I saw a ballcarrier get face-masked like that AND the defender not try to get his hand off there. Normally the defender, once he realizes he’s on the mask, will take his hand off, or use a different part of the body to throw him down with, not Witherspoon, who used the head to make that tackle. Morris must be a tough guy to get up after that one…albeit with an injured ankle. I wonder how he’s feeling today?

    Maybe Claude Wroten was angry because Sims actually blocked him….

  7. navy_at_3 says:

    hey im not concerned about the O… they have proved that the new O is great. It was a great D plan on STL’s part that worked for half of the game. Watch Philly try to do the same thing. They did get at least 2 sacks against NE that i saw.

    The concern should of been on the D. HOWEVER the D also has proved to me that they are above average to great. Sure they didnt get as many sacks as they did last time they played STL.. but last time STL was one dimensional without jackson.

    This game was everything one would of expected given the history of these two teams and the rivalery attitude.

    The next good test is against Philly, underrated D. They have a great coach that has been compared to holmey. Beat Philly and we should look pretty for the Div lead at the end of the season. AZ has to play CLE next week and i seriously doubt they can stop CLE’s O (dont compare CLE to DET’s game at AZ :P ) CLE already has proved they can win any shoot out and beat an average D which i think AZ is.

  8. navy_at_3 says:

    “Would be interested in who was in charge of making adjustments at halftime, was it a coach who made the changes or maybe a player??

    Inquiring minds want to know. ”

    I watched the holmey show… Mike made it sound like it was all his doing (halftime adjustments) as he was very very upset at his team. Interviews with Matt found here made it sound like it was a collective effort on the hurry up O…. which Hawks have had alot of success doing this season.

  9. navy_at_3 says:

    “Frank, is whether or not it’s a catchable pass still a consideration by rule before calling PI? Grant had no impact on the receiver’s path to the ball–which was overthrown by five yards. He was never making that catch.

    And that helmet rip-and-toss was unbelievable. Never seen anything like it. And apparently that’s still true for the officials. ”

    Your right, as someone corrected me yesterday it should not of been pass interfernce rather should of been holding. He did reach out and grab the WR’s arm (which didnt slow him down any so the ball was still overthrown).

    The helmet non call was pathetic. The announcers even said that. They also said NFL will probably fine that guy (forgot who did it). Thanks to FOX for investigating that incident and showing it on reply it caught media attention. That helmet flew 20 yards up field. Can’t believe no one called it.

    Speaking of helmets… i think i counted more helmets falling off then i did hawk penalties…. and there were alot of penalties. 5 from my count. That’s 2 more then hawks have had on O all season long.

  10. Phillyhawk says:

    1. Hass did a helluva job once he stopped thinking and started playing. His audibling at the line has got to stop unless he proves he can accurately assess the situation (remember the ‘fake audible’ at crunch time in AZ?)

    2. We’ve gotten off to terrible starts at home as well as away (I’m looking at you, New Orleans), so it’s not just the time zone (I suspect it’s in Hass’s head).

    3. Hass is the arguably the best player on our team and a critical part of any success this season. Let’s not pretend he’s in the category of Brady, Manning, or Favre. This year Romo makes a strong case for #4 and Hass might very well be #5. But there is a steep cliff between #3 and #5.

    4. How badly am I dreading SA’s return..??

  11. Shadowhawk says:

    “The helmet non call was pathetic. The announcers even said that. They also said NFL will probably fine that guy (forgot who did it). Thanks to FOX for investigating that incident and showing it on reply it caught media attention. That helmet flew 20 yards up field. Can’t believe no one called it.”

    The guilty party was none other than Claude Wroten, who got away with spearing Hasselbeck the first time these two teams played this season and is pretty much nothing more than a punk.

  12. Shadowhawk says:

    Frankly, though, the guy I’d like to see fined is Will Witherspoon for his face mask tackle on Maurice Morris later in the same drive that nearly broke him in half. I know the refs didn’t miss that infraction (shockingly enough) and I know Morris was fine after a brief rest, but if one of his cleats catches the turf just a little bit differently that could have been very ugly. He should have to shell out a few bucks for that one.

  13. Yeah, well yesterday we just proved that the refs can, well, handicap us but we can play through it.

    Remember Super Bowl XL and the Stealers??

  14. halfemptyfilms says:

    Hey guys, was restrained to streaming the radio as I’m still in Chicago (until December 18, woo!). Any chance someone has a video of the Wroten-Sims altercation?

    Thanks!

  15. Darrin Beene says:

    Two answers to a couple of questions that were posed:

    * On halftime adjustments, Holmgren said it was a good job by coaches AND players to realize what the Rams were doing and then countering it. Holmgren said the Rams were waiting to the last second to adjust their defensive formations, which was causing Hasselbeck to try and adjust after adjusting to what he originally saw.

    * On the Grant PI… Holmgren said one of the common misconceptions is that whether or not a pass is catchable matters. He said that it doesn’t. If the defender interferes with the other player, then it’s PI regardless.

  16. How many weeks now do we have to hear that “they gave us some looks we have not seen before”? This is getting old. Are the coaches adequately preparing the team, or even worse, over-preparing them? It sounds to me as if the Seahawks game plan is rather rigid and depends on the opponent’s D to do the same as they always have, and if the opposition changes anything, it disrupts all the planning. That is kind of dumb to assume the opponent will play the same as they have in the recent past. It is not as if they don’t have game-plans also. It is especially telling that we started doing better when Hass stopped trying to anticipate what the D was going to give him and just started playing his game. Maybe Holmy should let athletes be athletes and lighten up on the mental games.

  17. Most of what went wrong early in the Rams game was likely because the players were still trying to get the sleep out of their eyes. Almost the entire STL offense was in the first quarter.

    Adjustments were made, credit is cloudy, and the Seahawks were clearly the better team for the rest of the game. It took a while to catch up on the scoreboard, we weren’t playing Montana State (for example, no animosity implied), and the Rams continued to battle, so it stretched to the very end, but we were the better team. Not to say we couldn’t lose (reference Arizona game earlier), as the ball is oddly shaped, but we were better.

    Hass is very tough, and our defense is very talented. Our continued success will depend on how well we play. Sounds obvious, but we have the level of talent that can play as well as anyone, but we have a tendency to act like a group of strangers. Whenever everyone is in the playbook, this team can compete.

  18. elperrograndedos says:

    We are stuck on Stutz because our GM is too much of a Sheila to ever admit that she’s made a mistake (and is a complete moron as well).

  19. Rackley looks like a Hall of Famer compared to Boone Stutz.
    The cure is worse than the disease. All I want for Christmas is a healthy Hackett, and a new GM named Holmgren…

    Hasselbeck won the Bears game for us by winning the majority of plays where audibles were needed. The bears and Hass were trading audibles, and it was pretty much the last side to audible made a play…For the Rams game, Hass audibled too much, and it looked to me like the Rams scheme was to blitz an outside linebacker, waiting to see which side our runninb back lined up on, then blitzing from the other side—so it didnt help the Hawks any to move the back around, the Rams just blitzed from the opposite side, and came unblocked…Also the Rams blitzed up the middle, where we are weakest–Gray, Spencer, and Sims all whiffed multiple times on blocking thier assigned man…

    Once Holmy told Hass to stop audibling and run the play, if a guy is unblocked dump the pass to your outlet reciever, things began to work much better…

    Hasselbeck just needs to learn to adjust on the fly, making audibles as necessary, and abandoning audibles when they are casusing the offense problems with timing etc, as on sunday…

  20. elperrograndedos says:

    I think the Eagles will be demoralized by coming so close on Sunday night, and that we will blow them out …

  21. The league won’t do any thing about the face mask on Mo.Some how it will work out to be that they didn’t see it an it is a judgment call.Or that they felt that Mo put the defenders hand on his mask an pulled.The helmet thing that will work out to be that Simms did it.The League willn’t do anything for the hawks.I think we are looking at one of to reasons why.Just the old East coast Bias.Or Paul Allen owns Charter cable he got into a fight with the NFL network people about having NFL network on Charter an he said no to much money.Now Seattle gets no breaks from the league! I wish Frank or Dave,or Darrin would write a story about the Bias there is against the hawks an get it out to everyone.

  22. nighthawk2 says:

    Stutz should be checking airline ticket prices right now. The Chiefs are on their 3rd kicker this season (they just signed 20 year vet John Carney to replace Dave Raymer, who was signed to replace their 5th round draft pick Justin Medlock of UCLA. If there is a GM who is more stupid than Tim Ruskell (and Matt Millen) it’s Carl Peterson. They passed on Mason Crosby to take Medlock.

    I mentioned the face mask/helmet rip on Wrotten in a previous blog entry. I’ll be surprised if he league does anything about it. Refs are sacred cows to them. The NFL shreds the 1st Amendment by fining anyone who dares to say a suckey ref sucks. Something else Congress should look at.

  23. tribfan1 says:

    Who is Simms?

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