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Raiders 41, Seahawks 31: Postgame reaction blog

Post by Kenny Via / The News Tribune on Aug. 28, 2014 at 10:25 pm with 23 Comments »
August 28, 2014 10:28 pm
Oakland Raiders tight end Mychal Rivera (81) celebrates after catching a 20-yard touchdown in front of Seattle Seahawks cornerback Phillip Adams (28) and strong safety Jeron Johnson during (23) the first quarter of an NFL preseason football game in Oakland, Calif., Thursday, Aug. 28, 2014. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)
Oakland Raiders tight end Mychal Rivera (81) celebrates after catching a 20-yard touchdown in front of Seattle Seahawks cornerback Phillip Adams (28) and strong safety Jeron Johnson during (23) the first quarter Thursday. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

Well, well. What have we here?

The Seattle Seahawks finished the exhibition season Thursday night with an ugly, 41-31, loss to the Raiders in Oakland.

Don’t let the final score fool you, either, it wasn’t that close.

The Seahawks offense looked great for the one series Russell Wilson captained at quarterback, opening the scoring with a four-play, 80-yard drive that culminated with a 25-yard strike to tight end Luke Willson.

After that, Oakland flexed its offensive might (did I really just write that?).

Rookie QB Derek Carr had a field day against Seattle’s No. 1 and No. 2 defense, completing 11 of 13 passes for 143 yards, three touchdowns and a 152.1 QB rating. The Raiders led 35-14 when Carr exited early in the second quarter.

Tarvaris Jackson had trouble putting together a drive, and Terrelle Pryor was inconsistent but did lead a nice 2-minute drill to cap the first half with a TD.

But what does it all mean? You tell us:

1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup?

2. What to do with Pryor? Keep him and Jackson? Over T-Jax? Or not at all?

3. Which player do you hope makes the cut the most? Which would you like to see let go?

4. What has this preseason taught us about the Seahawks, if anything at all?

5. One week away from the opener, are you ready to make a prediction? For the game? The season?

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  1. PLUHawkFan says:

    Overall, I think it was a good game. YES UGLY, but good in that I think the Coaches saw what they needed to make some tough decisions on Saturday.

    1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup? (Not really, just like the offensive line, there is a certain chemistry with the regular starters and many of the 1st team were in there, but a lot of subs as well.)

    2. What to do with Pryor. (Up until tonight I was indifferent, I wouldn’t have been upset if we kept him or released him. I’ve changed my stance after tonight. Mainly because of play I saw by “OTHER” players though. Because of our depth (especially at WR) Our Roster spots are VERY valuable this year. And I don’t think he justifies taking a spot over say keeping another WR or LB or OLine)

    3. Which player do I hope makes the Cut. (Walters primarily as Punt Returner, so that ET doesn’t get that spot) I think he earned that spot tonight, but at WR and Special Teams) Who would I like to see go (Pryor)

    4. What has the preseason taught us about the Seahawks? (After going years with just trying to find a couple decent WR’s now we are overloaded) JS/PC have some EXTREMELY tough decisions. Not that it would happen in million years. But we have enough talent that we could justify keeping 8 receivers.

    5. One week away opener. (Prediction Seahawks 31 Packers 24) Season (At “absolute worst” 12-4 and make the playoffs)

    #GoHawks!

  2. seahawk44 says:

    1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup?

    No game planning. A little worried that the defense may not be able to stop the run as well this season without Bryant, Clemons and McDonald. But Carr showed me that he is going to be a good quarterback.

    2. What to do with Pryor? Keep him and Jackson? Over T-Jax? Or not at all?

    Tough call. And I like BJ’s upside too. Especially with the tutoring from Wilson. Let’s just hope that whoever the backup QBs are, that the only reason they see playing time is for garbage play at the end of a blowout Hawks victory.

    3. Which player do you hope makes the cut the most? Which would you like to see let go?

    The bubble battles are as tough as I have ever seen for D line and Wide receiver. Rooting for Brian Walters.

    4. What has this preseason taught us about the Seahawks, if anything at all?

    I believe that the Seahawk offense will score a lot of points this season, but the defense may give up a bit more too. I think that the team will be remarkable at home, but they will get the opposing teams best shots on the road. They will have to learn how to combat a team that plays like it is the super bowl because they are wanting to make a statement against the champs.

    5. One week away from the opener, are you ready to make a prediction? For the game? The season?

    Game: Seahawks 42, Green Bay 22
    Season: 17-2 Repeat Champions

  3. GeorgiaHawk says:

    1. No not worried.

    2. Jackson still sucks so I would be fine keeping Pryor or BJ over him.

    3. Bates & Jackson.

    4. They have a big target on their backs. Can’t have many letdowns like last year.

    5. Game 35-21 Seahawks.
    Season record 16-3 with Super Bowl victory.

    Go Hawks!!!

  4. PLUHawkFan says:

    Most impressive player in my opinion tonight. Paul Richardson. I’ve always thought he made the roster, but I think he proved tonight that he is more then just a speedster or one trick pony. I think he showed he could make an impact even THIS YEAR.

    Normally I don’t expect much outta receivers until they are 2 years in…..

    Walters is my #2 pick for most impressive.

    #GoHawks!

  5. Dukeshire says:

    Late on the second quarter, Coyle adjusted the defense and pulled Smith to the strong side, where he blitzed and recorded a sack. That sealed it for me: Coyle not only busts his ass, but has recognition, and is a leader. That was a very heady adjustment. Welcome aboard.

    They have to find a place for Walters.

    I fail to see what Pryor offers that Daniels doesn’t. I predict Pryor is cut and Daniels is on the PS

  6. bsinnitt says:

    1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup?

    I thought the D tackle position looked thin. Scruggs and Hill can both rush but they leave room for improvement against the run. Linebacker is deep. Shead looked good as a valuable utility DB.

    2. What to do with Pryor? Keep him and Jackson? Over T-Jax? Or not at all?

    Cut Pryor, roster spot is better used elsewhere.

    3. Which player do you hope makes the cut the most? Which would you like to see let go?

    I’d like to see Norwood stay on the team via IR/red shirt. I’d like to see Pryor cut (see above).

    4. What has this preseason taught us about the Seahawks, if anything at all?

    We better hope Mebane stays healthy. Offense will score significantly more.

    5. One week away from the opener, are you ready to make a prediction? For the game? The season?

    38 – 16 Hawks

    15 – 4 Super Bowl repeat

  7. My message to the defense “you wanna take a sorry ass team like Oakland lightly, that’s the results you’re gonna get” (in Richard Sherman voice). Very disappointed!!!

    I have no worries going into week 1. Green Bay does not have a defense that can stop our offense and our D will be turned up.

  8. WiscCory says:

    I suspect when the Hawks blend 1st stingers with 2nd stringers with 3rd stringers, there are guys on the field at the same time that aren’t accustomed to being together. With that, you get volatile play. One could argue, the Raiders have the same dynamic. However my theory is games with player mixes like this could yield these type of high scoring games that could go either way.

    Stomping the Chargers and Bears, and mediocre results against the Broncos and Raiders was okay to watch, however I’m glad it’s over. And, the outcomes of the games don’t mean anything now, except providing valuable information to help define the 2014-2015 Seahawks team that will be announced by Saturday.

    My point is….I’m now ready to meet this year’s team, and the start of the regular season!

    BTW, I think Walter’s secured a spot on the team.

  9. Gregg Bell says:

    Consensus in locker room I just got out of, summed up by Carroll: “We are ready.”

    He noted how great Russell Wilson looks right now, and the first-team offense scoring on 11 of last 12 drives of the preseason. “We are advanced. We’ve moved ahead. We are better than we were in the past” on offense, Carroll said.

    Russell Okung says he “felt strong” playing the entire first half, his most work since toe surgery in the offseason. He was gassed after one drive last week vs CHI.

    “As ready as I’ll ever be,” he said when I asked him how ready he was for Green Bay.

    Bobby Wagner noted how the defense still isn’t whole, with DT Tony McDaniel (sore knee) out tonight. He said the defense — LBs in particular — were guilt of overruning early in the game and the Raiders’ runners effectively used cut-back runs to counter that.

  10. freedom_X says:

    Or did the defense look better in the previous two games due to home cooking (noise) rattling teams that didn’t expect that kind of atmosphere in preseason?

  11. GeorgaaHawk says:

    I think T Jack sucks because I want to suck Pryor.

  12. Ewalters7354 says:

    Not the real Georgia

  13. bsinnitt says:

    OK….. I’m out.

  14. JoeinKirkland says:

    There are two big differences between this year’s preseason and the previous two years where we didn’t lose a game. Our starters, especially our offense, look better than in the past. However, our depth seems to really have taken a step back.

    In 2012 and 2013 we were frequently close at the half and sometimes behind, but our 2nd and 3rd string dominated our opponents and we won all the games. This year our back-ups don’t look nearly as good. Of course we have lost a bunch of players and last year’s backups are some of this year’s starters. The next wave of players isn’t as good as in the past. This is troublesome for two reasons.

    1. In the short term, when we have the inevitable injuries that all teams suffer, we won’t have as good of players to be the next man up. We are not in as good of shape this year as in years past to handle injuries to key players.
    2. In the long term, when we have to let guys go because we have to pay Russell and others, we won’t have the same quality of players to step in and fill their roles.

    PC/JS are going to have to draft really well the next couple of years.

  15. jawpeace says:

    Time for a few:
    1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup?
    A little I had the thought if this is what we are doing against the Raiders how are we going to be in a week against Green Bay?

    2. What to do with Pryor? Keep him and Jackson? Over T-Jax? Or not at all?
    As I said at the beginning of preseason cut Pryor.

    3. Which player do you hope makes the cut the most? Which would you like to see let go?
    Walters the guy that many Hawk fans want to stick and return punts. As far as cut I want Pryor’s roster spot to be used else where.

  16. boycie99 says:

    I’m a little worried out starting D has been run on and had 1 good and 2 average QB’s complete passes at will.
    Let’s hope they haven’t started to believe their own publicity and can continue to shut teams down.
    The way they made Carr look good tonight worries me for when Green Bay come to town as they have an infinitely better O

    Pryor while I think should be cut I just feel he is the project for the year and Pete will keep him.

    Personally I prefer Bates over Walters if it’s a straight comp. Aside from last night Bates has been that little more consistent.

    Come on Earl and Sherm get the LOB back on track

  17. ljarllrajl says:

    1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup?

    A bit of both. This is the second game where the DL and LB, consistently lost gap integrity in the run game. DL depth concerned me going into this season and nothing I’ve seen so far has eased that concern.

    2. What to do with Pryor? Keep him and Jackson? Over T-Jax? Or not at all?

    I see it like this, Pryor is only some consistency away from giving you what T-Jack can give you AND Pryor can make big plays…which T-Jack absolutely has shown little ability to do. We say a few classic T-Jack “jump passes” tonight reminiscent of the player we couldn’t wait to trade in for a “real QB”. If Wilson goes down for the season year, you’re not gonna win a playoff game no matter which backup is playing. If Wilson goes down for 4 games, you’ll probably be 2-2 no matter which backup is playing. But for next season, with Pryor as a backup you might go 3-1 and win that playoff game…that won’t happen with T-jack next season. He’ll be the exact same player.

    3. Which player do you hope makes the cut the most? Which would you like to see let go?

    I’d say Croyle but he’s seemed lock a lock for awhile. So I’ll go with Phil Bates because he can add some run after the catch ability that we’ll miss from losing Golden Tate. I’d also hate to lose Spencer Ware because I think he could be a mid-level starting RB in this league. Deshawn Shead and Phillip Adams haven’t been as good as advertised. I wouldn’t shed a tear if either were cut. Maybe a better veteran option will come available after cuts.

    4. What has this preseason taught us about the Seahawks, if anything at all?

    Even when they’re losing a preseason game, they keep up the intensity.

    5. One week away from the opener, are you ready to make a prediction? For the game? The season?

    Sea 37 – GB 26

    12-4 Loss in NFC Championship game. But, I wouldn’t be shocked with 14-2 and a Repeat.

  18. yellaman says:

    1. Are you worried at all by the lack of defense to start or was it just a preseason hiccup?

    I’m worried about the lack of defensive secondary depth, last year we had Thurmond in the nickel, Maragos at safety and ST player, Browner starting and Maxwell coming off the bench. Now we have Simon backing up the starting DB’s and we are counting on Lane to be the nickel guy. Last years depth in the secondary was awesome and now I’m concerned.

    2. What to do with Pryor? Keep him and Jackson? Over T-Jax? Or not at all?

    Keep both and maybe groom him to back up RW next year or trade for a draft pick. I like what I see from him and think he can grow to be a viable starting QB in the NFL. TJack is more reliable for this team this year but after that we need to go young as a backup to RW.

    3. Which player do you hope makes the cut the most? Which would you like to see let go?

    The secondary talent of Adams and Augusta can go after what I saw tonight. To let Carr go 11 for 13 and throw 3 TD’s is embarrassing for the LOB. Also, the depth at LB is a concern after the starters Bwags, Wright, Malcolm, and B Irvin. KLP got hurt and hasn’t been healthy, same goes for Toomer who hasn’t impressed me and Coyle is only a rookie FA which will have to grow up quick in the league to be a contributor to a championship team.

    4. What has this preseason taught us about the Seahawks, if anything at all?

    This team is going to have to be better than last year to win the Superbowl. The depth is not as good behind the starters like last year and every team will be gunning for us. I still like us in the NFC West but I’m worried about getting home-field advantage. The 2 times we’ve made the Superbowl, we had home-field advantage. That is the key to our Superbowl success. I still see 11 to 13 wins but I want Home-field advantages.

    5. One week away from the opener, are you ready to make a prediction? For the game? The season?

    jumped the gun on predictions in the previous question. I like us to win the NFC west with 12 wins and be at least the #2 seed in the NFC conference. I’m concern with the Saints or the Eagles getting the #1 NFC seed because their divisions are cake walks compared to the NFC West.

  19. BigShermyWorm says:

    I don’t see Pryor really being better than Daniels as a project QB. That’s all either is. Pryor has the talent, but I’m not sold he has the mindset.

    Coyle has made the team.

    Adams was up and down. I seriously hope Lane stays healthy during the regular season.

    Shead showed well, and he is very versatile.

    I don’t think Walters makes it unless they chance trying to get Norwood to the PS. I personally wouldn’t. I doubt anyone grabs Walters up. He’s an effort guy here that doesn’t know the system elsewhere.

  20. seatowntp says:

    Hello Gus,

    How are you? I’ve watched a little of your preseason games and you look like you are doing a great job with Jax. They look really great. You are doing some really cool things with the team. Hey! I was wondering, could you please send Red back to us, it would be really cool. I’ll send Paul’s plane for him tomorrow. Thanks Gus.

    Always Compete,

    Pete

  21. SaigonSun says:

    I understand some of you post late at night, after having few drinks … so, I’ll be civil with you.
    It has been written many times T.P. want’s to be a starter ( ego and financial reasons ,I guess). Which part of that you can’t comprehend? They got him cheap, kicked the tires , and he is not worth the trouble that will come with a disgruntled QB. Yeah, he has “upside” because he is tall, can run and has big arm. Still, he is NOT Cam Newton; his thinking process is not on NFL level. I don’t want to call him stupid , but he is not the “brightest bulb on the X-mas tree”. Let him go.
    T-Jack got paid. He knows the “system”. Nobody other than Bevell sees any value there. Nobody will give him a roster spot. Let him go ! If a need arises, un-retire him and bring him. B.J.Daniels will not make it to the PS, and he is ( soon to be) good enough for #2 QB.
    I’d like to see Price on PS.

  22. Saigon, I like your take on the QB’s! B.J. looks like a keeper to me.

  23. Southendzone says:

    Pretty good consensus on TP, I also don’t think he’s earned a spot on the team. Can’t see him as the backup, and also can’t see them going with 3 QBs, we need that roster spot somewhere else,

    BJ Daniels looks like he could do the job though. If RW went out of the game in the 4th quarter and we were down 7, & I could have TJ, BJD, or TP come in to try and win the game for us, I’d rank TJ and BJD nearly equal, and TP a significant distance behind.

    In fact, I think anyone who’s watched TP play much could become a genius defensive coordinator if you know he has to pass:

    Throw a huge blitz at him every down, and make sure someone hangs back to contain his escape. He can’t handle this situation and it’s pretty obvious.

    Playing with the lead, or with the threat of the run, he can be effective but doesn’t have the savvy to consistently do the right thing in the face of a big rush.

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