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Hawks wrap up first week of camp today

Post by Dave Boling / The News Tribune on July 31, 2014 at 5:31 am with 54 Comments »
July 31, 2014 5:31 am

  Today will mark the end of the first week of Seahawks training camp 2014. There’s been no giant developments like last year’s announcement of Percy Harvin’s hip injury. Today, though, we should get some clarity on the extent of the Achilles injury to tight end Anthony McCoy and knee issue of defensive tackle Jesse Williams.

If there’s been a theme thus far, in my perspective, it’s been the high level of competition. It’s to be expected that a veteran team with a lot of holdovers from a successful season would practice well. But it was fair to be suspicious whether the players would bring the same intensity level. So far, it’s been exceptional.  One example came in Wednesday’s practice, which focused much of the time on one-on-one competitions. Harvin and Earl Thomas were paired a few times, and on one, in a goal-line drill, the two were so intent on getting to an overthrown ball, it looked as if they both were on the verge of running into Lake Washington in the pursuit. Both were visibly disappointed they didn’t come down with it, but walking back, they slapped hands to congratulate the other on their effort.

Harvin later zipped around the defense in a team drill on a fly sweep that should become a staple gainer/decoy for the 2014 offense.

A lot of attention has been paid to receivers: Harvin’s first healthy camp, rookies Paul Richardson and Kevin Norwood, and even Bryan Walters, who shakes free, makes tough catches, and scores in the Red Zone, as he did a couple times Wednesday. But the most consistent big-play maker among the receivers group has been Doug Baldwin, who is having an amazing camp. Baldwin has shown the ability to get deep against the No. 1 defense, and never drops a touch.

On Wednesday, backup quarterback Terrelle Pryor not only threw some nice deep balls, but also connected on some of the short and underneath stuff that has not been his strength thus far. Darrell Bevell called it his best day at training camp and it clearly was. It seemed a good enough performance to force one to ask: What do you do with him? He’s shown how well he can scramble and run when flushed, but his accuracy questions seemed to make it unlikely he could dislodge Tarvaris Jackson as Russell Wilson’s backup. Would you keep him around just as a change-up guy who could run a bit from that position? It didn’t seem like a likely use of a valuable roster spot. But if he starts really connecting as a passer?

Given the lean manpower situation at safety with Kam Chancellor still out, good plays by DeShawn Shead on Wednesday had to be a welcomed sight. He’s a swing secondary guy who is certainly big enough (6-3, 220) to be valuable at safety.

On the down side thus far, the soft-tissue injuries are adding up, which Carroll said is a trend as teams get toward the end of the first week. It will be interesting to see how long James Carpenter (calf) and Bobby Wagner (hamstring) will be sidelined. With Bruce Irvin and Malcolm Smith still not back from surgeries, having Wagner sidelined has left the Hawks extremely thin at linebacker.  That could be a concern as they take the field in a preseason game just a week from now at Denver.

Some links:

–Here’s my practice report from Wednesday. We had interviews with both coordinators, and it was interesting how much the two are challenged by trying to score wins against their counterpart on the other side of the ball.

  –TJ Cotterill chatted with Terrelle Pryor after Wednesday’s practice. I thought the best quote was: “I just want to be the best teammate I can be and help the guys as much as I can. I can’t worry about who is No. 1, who is getting more reps than me, who’s better than me. Those are out of my control.”

  –Tony Drovetto at Seahawks.com compiled some clips from the ESPN SportsCenter Special broadcast from Tuesday’s training camp practice.

He also has a fun note about Wednesday’s visit of Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr.

 

 

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  1. Glad to see these young Vets practicing with intensity and setting the bar high for the new guys.

  2. bird_spit says:

    Dave – again you impress with your perspective.
    Thanks for the report.

  3. Southendzone says:

    I watched about half of yesterday’s practice and definitely echo Dave’s comments about Baldwin. He was consistently able to get open on all kind of routes. On short routes even if he didn’t have separation he used his body to get what looked like easy catches against fairly tight coverage.

    Watched the DL in some drills early on in the day. I don’t know what to look for or anything, but Mayowa looks quite athletic and fast. Like a Cliff Avril clone.

  4. montanamike2 says:

    Love the reports that you’ve been churning out Dave. With all the injuries piling up, more guys are “next man up”. Does Michael look as freakish athletically or are we screwed until Lynch gets resolved?

  5. montanamike2 says:

    Southendzone, Mayowa looked good last pre season even if it’s going against scrubs, thanks for the report on him, he seems just as fast with the extra weight and probably has a better understanding of some technique.

  6. HawkFromDay1 says:

    You can just see Harvin on that jet sweep out of a strong side bunch trips set.

    Percy in motion – Doug Baldwin and Paul Richardson stay on the strong side – fake the jet sweep – Richardson runs a 9, Angry runs a China/whip underneath. and Heck – send Percy on the wheel. Good luck D.

    Now if only we can block it up… sigh.

  7. yankinta says:

    HawkFromDay1,, lol,, you gotta think positive!! you were doing so well then suddenly got depressed… :)

  8. yankinta says:

    Hmmm,, I have a feeling that the 49ers are going to regress this year…

    http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/7/30/5951753/vic-fangio-talks-rookie-development-process-disappointing-tuesday

    10+ Wins Teams that will regress this year, (YankinTa’s Opinion)

    1. Arizona Cardinals
    2. Kansas City Chiefs
    3. Denver Broncos
    4. San Fran 49ers
    5. Indianapolis Colts

  9. montanamike2 says:

    I think the ‘Cards and Whiners “D” regressed while the “O”
    improved, not sure of the Broncos though because a lot of injured players are coming back, including Vonn Miller who’s a monster.

  10. oldtallguy says:

    What a great way to get up in the morning, pour a cup of coffee, light up a cigarette and read this blog, which is the greatest its been in a long long time thanks to you Dave Boling. I’m sure its short lived but greatly appreciated. You the best

  11. yankinta says:

    montanamike2,, I realize that but I’m just thinking Broncos played against the softest schedule last year and it just got a lot tougher this year.

    This is why I was able to successfully predict that Falcons wouldn’t make the playoff last year….

    I’m not saying Broncos won’t make the playoff but I am thinking they win a lot less than 13 games this season. I’m thinking around 9 or 10 wins.

  12. Steve Kerr? He said the SuperSonics pumped artificial noise into Key Arena during the NBA finals against the Bulls. Boo.

    Baldwin is awesome.

  13. montanamike2 says:

    Why can’t people accept that Seattle fans are loud? I was at one of those games on that run and the fans wear screaming! Baldwin has stepped up big time.

  14. HawkfaninMT says:

    @Yank: how many wins are you predicting for the Colts as one of your teams that regress? They are obviously the class of the AFC South, getting 5-6 wins there and the NFC East is no powerhouse. Based on opposition I do not see a big regression from them. Broncos either, but just my opinion

  15. yankinta says:

    HawkfaninMT,, that’s why they’re No.5 on my list. Meaning I’m less confident about them….

    But I still think they’ll get around 9 wins or less. They lost their best Defensive player for the first 4 games (due to suspension). They lost two key Starters for the entire season, due to injuries.

    And I also believe the Texans and Jaguars will improve their win totals by a good amount. Titans should still be around .500 team.

  16. Southendzone says:

    Honestly in the SEA/DEN preseason game, I think the Hawks should play all soft and timid, only play to about 15% of their potential so Denver thinks they are really bad-ass this season.

    Then when the real season comes around let them witness the power of this FULLY OPERATIONAL BATTLE STATION! Mwuahahahahaha

  17. RDPoulsbo says:

    Pryor might make it onto the roster as the #3 QB, but I wouldn’t expect any wildcat or crazy stunts like that from the Seahawks. There’s no need to risk a QB to injury by playing him out of position with Harvin, Richardson and Michael on the team.

  18. Dave Boling says:

    Thanks, oldtallguy!

    Here’s a report that won’t surprise you. From Boston Herald … Brandon Browner is manhandling receivers in Patriots camp. http://tinyurl.com/lvfvdm5

  19. Browner might get flagged a lot this season under the new emphasis. Probably more than any Seahawks will.

  20. Singularitarian says:

    I would love Pryor to make the team. And I would like to see him come in once every few games and run a play or 2. Think of the speed you get with him, Michaels, Percy, and Richardson. Certain defenses couldn’t handle. Plus you can run him hard as he’s the 3rd qb and you aren’t risking your backup. Honestly he might close out games better just due to his running, against certain teams

  21. Singularitarian says:

    Green Bay comes to mind as a team that can’t contain a mobile qb. Throwing Pryor in on a 2nd and 5 could really catch them off guard. Do some 3 way read option with Richardson going deep. Would be fun anyway. Even if it netted 3 yards would be good to keep them off their game

  22. PLUHawkFan says:

    Dave:

    Question, I’ve been watching the training camp practices of a few teams on tv. I really get the feeling that the Seahawks practice on a whole different level then the rest of the league. I’m talking about speed of practice and intensity.

    It’s hard to tell on how much they work on fundamentals vs other teams etc.. but it really seems like are miles ahead of the league on practice intensity. Is my observation real? Or am I just being a homer, or paying more attention to Hawks then others.

    You’ve been around for a long time, whats your take on it?

    Lastly, I want to agree with the others on how much you bring to the blog. Thank you so much, your insights and reporting in general are A++

    Thanks

  23. yankinta says:

    rbuzby,, lol yeah. I agree with you. Some misguided Fool on ESPN said that Patriots have the best Secondary in the NFL, because we lost Browner and they added him…. That fool is gonna eat some crow pretty soon. :)

  24. I think Seattle keeps both T-Jack and Pryor. They cant cut Jackson barring a total meltdown because his pay is guaranteed. They wont cut Pryor because he wont clear waivers and has already shown dramatic improvement in a short period, now that he has good coaching for the first time in his entire career (college or pro).

    I dont believe Seattle has any intention of taking RW out unless they have a huge margin of victory. Pryor is a long-term project, who only has to be up to speed to be a backup by next year Game One in order to be worth keeping. If he shows much improvement at all, he’s worth keeping at least a year as qb3.

    (See what I did there? I used Video Game Speak–not as old and curmudgeonly as some would think…;p)

  25. BEAST MODE is ending his holdout. Sweet. The Seahawks just got better. Look out NFL :)

  26. Rumors are that Lynch will not get a new contract, but that there will be incentives that could fatten his pockets. Perfect, he’s back and will still be hungry for more $$. Bring it on

  27. BeastMode Back?! Hell yes!!!

    In other news, Christine Michael wants to call his grandma…

    Or at least whine to his parents…

  28. montanamike2 says:

    Dream come true, welcome back beast!

  29. montanamike2 says:

    I was actually getting worried and maybe even depressed, 2 of my friends with Lynch jerseys weren’t too happy either.

  30. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    We have no reason to keep 3 QB’s on the active roster. It makes no sense at all. If Pryor makes the team then Tavaris Jackson doesn’t. It’s that plain and simple. This regime has never kept 3 at this spot.

  31. FivePercentWrong says:

    What the heck are “financial concessions”? I like them. They brought the Beast back. But, what the heck are they?

  32. FivePercentWrong says:

    That was the term I heard in reference to him coming back. Did they just mean modified incentives?

  33. I took it as incentives. Rush over 1000 yards ger X amount of $. Rush for 1500 yards gets X amount of $. X amount of Touchdowns…etc. I think that is very smart. Don’t want him angry and not playing his hardest

  34. montanamike2 says:

    Compromise i love it!

  35. FivePercentWrong says:

    That’s great, but how can they do that without a new contract?

    Confused, but happily so.

  36. chuck_easton says:

    MikefromNewJersey,

    There is that little sticking point of Tarvaris Jackson’s 2014 salary being guaranteed.

    To cut Jackson means the team eats the contract and takes the Cap hit regardless. If the guy’s gonna get paid he might as well suit up.

    The issue comes with the plan going forward. If the team thinks Pryor will be ready to be the #2 as early as next year (Jackson not under contract) then they might not want to risk exposing him to waivers.

    So, it’s either Wilson and Jackson if they go with two, all three, try and trade Jackson or Pryor, or risk exposing Pryor to waivers.

    My guess is that they likely keep all three.

  37. yankinta says:

    MikeFromNewJersey,, yup yup yup,, Those who say T-Jack is a sure thing because his contract is guaranteed, still don’t get this FO. How many guaranteed contracts have this FO let go because they got beat out by another player?? Too many for me to list… :)

  38. chuck_easton says:

    jboard and Five%,

    The team did not give Lynch a new contract. They also can’t give added incentives for the upcoming season (that is a new contract).

    What the team did was exactly what I expected them to do. They have given ‘financial concessions’ in the form of waiving the well over $500,000.00 in fines.

  39. montanamike2 says:

    I think you’re right Chuck, Pryor is the backup of the future and he still has a ways to go on his technique, i don’t think he’d make it back to our practice squad. If he doesn’t improve then cut bait, i think this is the year we keep 3 QB’s.

  40. yankinta says:

    montanamike2,, Pryor will be a free agent next year. There’s no way we’d spend that kind of money to keep him,, especially after giving RW 22 Mil a year. That’s why I think BJ Daniels will be our backup next year…

  41. FivePercentWrong says:

    Thanks, Chuck.

    If you’re right, isn’t there a concern that Lynch is still angry and feeling disrespected?

  42. montanamike2 says:

    Maybe we’ll keep Pryor for trade bait after some other teams QB goes down. Just a thought.

  43. Southendzone says:

    I have a feeling he is going to get more than forgiveness of his accumulated fines. It would surprise me if they stonewalled him that hard.

    “Not getting a new contract” can mean a lot of things, it could just mean not a new extension, in that case they could move roster bonuses to base salary, add guaranteed money in 2014 or 2015. They gave Browner a bonus last year and that didn’t constitute a new contract in terms of extended seasons with us.

  44. OregonHawk says:

    What if Pryor got a hangnail and went on IR?

  45. chuck_easton says:

    It’s quite possible that Lynch will be angry and feel that he is not valued.

    But if this really is his last year in Seattle he is going to want to put together a highlight reel of plays to provide to prospective new teams.

    And, if he has another huge season there is nothing that says the team will definitely cut him for 2015 and they might even consider an extension.

    This was just the wrong time for Lynch to play the holdout card. No leverage, the RB market has tanked, he just signed a contract two years ago that pays him an average of 7.5M per season, and as of the start of week one of the regular season he will be guaranteed to receive $24M of the $30M in the contract.

    How does that make him put upon financially or being taken advantage of by the team?

  46. chuck_easton says:

    Southendzone,

    Browner triggered performance bonuses that are part of the CBA.

    The only thing Seattle can do would be to guarantee some of the money from next year (that is currently not guaranteed).

    They can’t give him more money this year, that is a new contract.

  47. chuck_easton says:

    Well, correction.

    Browner was in the final year of his contract. The team gave him a signing bonus and a roster bonus on top of his pay.

    But that, technically is a new 1 year contract.

  48. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Sounds like Lynch will get his bone after all.

  49. Chuck, I didn’t know incentives must come with a new contract. Thanks for the info

  50. chuck_easton says:

    And as far as Lynch is concerned, his numbers for this season:

    base pay $5M
    Roster bonus 500K
    Incentive bonus for 1,500 or more rushing yards 1M.
    Pro-rated portion of 6M signing bonus 1.5M.

    Total cap hit: 5M + 500K + 1.5M = 7M Cap hit.

    Actual money to Lynch 5.5M

    The only room the team would have for movement would be if the 500k roster bonus was a “per-game” bonus meaning he only earns the full 500K if he’s on the roster for the entire season. If that is the case they can make the roster bonus due in full if he’s on the final 53 man roster.

  51. Chuck–Can they make his incentives guaranteed, or change the terms?

  52. chuck_easton says:

    Not sure if you can adjust the incentives once the contract is signed.

  53. MoSeahawk12 says:

    It’s reported that the Seahawks bumped up his base from 5 million to 6 million, plus moving 500,000 from 2015 and giving it to him this year. His new number is 6.5 million this season.

  54. chuck_easton says:

    They were able to get him to 6.5 from 5m base by doing the only thing they could do.

    They guaranteed the full 500k roster bonus and they took out the requirement of achieving 1500 yards before he earned that extra 1m incentive.

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