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Carroll on Price: ‘It looks like he can help us’

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on May 18, 2014 at 7:18 pm with 40 Comments »
May 18, 2014 7:18 pm

A couple of the rookie mini-camp highlights for Pete Carroll: Cassius Marsh and Keith Price. Marsh appears to have a clear line to a backup role as a versatile defensive lineman. The question for Price is how he fits. The Seahawks have Russell Wilson, Tarvaris Jackson, Terrelle Pryor and B.J. Daniels at quarterback — presumably in that order.

Jackson’s money is guaranteed, and considering his system experience, it’s safe to assume his spot is, as well. Which leaves the other three basically fighting for one spot on the active roster and likely a practice squad position.

(On the camp…) “They had great work. They had a really good camp. The lead was taken by the draft picks, we had really good work by the tackles, Cassius Marsh did a real nice job, the receivers were really on it, it’s really, really exciting to see these guys come out and battle like they did. As we go through this, we have some tough decisions because some of the guys that have come in and were in tryout mode are definitely under some consideration, so we’ll have to figure it all out here in the next couple days, we don’t have any answers for you right now, but it was really cool work. I tried to give a feel for what it’s like to be part of the Seahawks, ad these guys really answered the call and worked really hard for it.”

(On if there was any guys that stood out initially…) “Yeah, yeah there was.”

(On Eric Pinkins…) “Yeah we wanted to make sure that we could see him at both spots, so we could get a little bit of information before we go into the next mode here. It’s really good that he could play in those spots, we’ll see how it’ll work out. I don’t know how it’ll work out right now, but I’m glad we got some information. I haven’t seen the film yet today so I can’t tell you much about it.”

(On Paul Richardson…) “Yeah. He banged his shoulder a little bit, but he’s fine. He’ll be fine. He should be back in a couple of days.”

(On Kevin Pierre-Louis…) “He had a groin thing that was bothering him, but he did a nice job. He had a lot of work the first couple of days of this week and he looks very good. He plays very fast, he’s really a big accelerator, he seems to be a really good learner too so he should fit into the competition really well.”

(On Cassius Marsh…) “First he came in here in great shape, he was really flying the whole time. He never showed any signs at all of wearing down, he’s very active, a very instinctive football player. He moved around to a couple of different spots here to give us some looks. That’s pretty exciting. It’s pretty exciting that he’s so active. The role that we kind of talked about, kind of like Michael Bennett, it looks like that might have a chance. We’ll take a lot of time to figure that out. But he looked very good, by far the most active guy out there.”

(On what does he look for in rookie minicamp when he finally gets his eyes on a guy…) “First off we are a developmental staff. We’re looking at these guys for the long haul and how we can help them, become the best that they can be and we have to figure them out to do that. We’re looking at everything. Every message that they send us is something that we can kind of use to figure what they potentially can become. We’re always looking for that competitiveness, the guys that really battle and come out busting their tail, digging and scratching to get to the ball and all of that. We’re looking for that first. We’ll figure out the talent, but we want to get a sense for their nature. They get out here, and we let them know, but we saw some great signs from these guys.”

(On Keith Price…) “He did really well. It’s like he’s been around longer than he really has. He’s really comfortable, he’s a very natural quarterback, he’s very comfortable in the pocket, he moves really well. he made a lot of big throws and threw the ball down the field really well for us. He did a very good job, and it looks like he can help us.”

(On Garrett Scott…) “Yeah he still hasn’t passed his physical so we’re still working through that.”

(On Garry Gilliam…) “Yeah he played left tackle. He’s an extraordinary athlete. He was a tight end coming up and was moved late in his career at Penn State. He has really good mobility, he has the left tackle type of quickness, he’s over 300 pounds, a big solid well balanced kid, and he did very well. He looked very good at the spot so that’s a real plus for us. we need help there, we need the competition there, and Justin Britt kind of stuck at the right side, Garry stuck in on the left side and both of the guys looked really fitting at their spots.”

(On Justin Britt…) “He picked everything up, he’s very well prepared technique wise, he has real good footwork, his base is real good, his balance is real good for a big man, he moved well off of the line of scrimmage, he won’t have any trouble learning, it’s going to take some time of course, but he won’t any trouble picking stuff up. He’s a real serious, mature kid and I think he would jump right into the competition exactly like we had planned. I think he would be right there with Michael Bowie and they will be battling it out.”

(On the strength and conditioning coaches coaching the scrimmage today…) “Well Mondray Gee and Jamie Yanchar were on the same team, they were co-head coaches. They were competing with Coach Chris Carlisle he was the head coach on the other side. I don’t know if you noticed that the commissioner Matt Thomas set all of the proceedings in motion and did a fine job of overseeing the event. I really thought that it was kind of the ying and the yang with those two guys, Coach Gee and Coach Yanchar. I don’t know which was which, but it was the ying and yang.”

(On if they will contact other teams for the kids that they don’t have room for…) “Yeah that can come up. Not so much that we’ll be selling them, but guys will call and ask about people, and we’ll give a really good heads up for these guys. I thought that Zach Zulli did a really nice job. He’s a really active football player, and he could help a football team. He doesn’t know our system at all, he knew nothing, he never called a play from the huddle in his school so it’s been five years since he’s huddled. He had to do a lot of catching up, but he showed really good playmaking ability. He ran well, he has tremendous accuracy and a real strong arm. So he was really fun to have out here, and it was really cool, his team won the game.”

(On Kiero Small…) “He’s a fullback. He’s a legit fullback, he loves the position, and he has a sense for it and a little chip on his shoulder about it. I’m hoping that he would be a real factor in special teams as well. he’s a tough guy and he can catch the ball really well too, so he showed that. The position is not anything that he can’t handle; he really is well equipped for it with his background.”

(On Jimmy Staten…) “He battled through stuff, he’s kind of in the ranks a little bit, and he needs to get in a little bit better shape. He lost probably ten pounds from the time that he’s got here so obviously he can get in better shape. I think he’s going to do a really good job, he’s going to be a big guy for us, he played well over 300 pounds and I think he can play real tough inside for us on first and second down plays.”

(On Mike Taylor…) “Mike continues do good stuff. this was a really productive guy in college with good numbers and stuff. He’s learning now, he’s been with us a couple of times so he’s ahead of the other guys in making his calls and stuff. He’s around the ball a lot, he’s done a real good job.”

(On Adham Talaat…) “Yeah he worked really hard. Talaat did a really nice job of showing his toughness, and showing his great effort and all of that, no problems at all, everything was very smooth as far as communicating and working through the installation and all of that. He did a very good job.”

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  1. Carlsonkid says:

    Good luck Keith Price ! Keep working hard and let the chips fall where they may …

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  3. seahawkfan97 says:

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  4. If the 2 OTs stick that would be great. Gilliam sounds like a real find as a long term LT project and hopefully Britt is the real deal at RT. Here’s to Carp and Sweezy each making a significant leap forward this season.

    LT Okung, Bailey, Gilliam
    LG Carpenter
    C Unger, J-P
    RG Sweezy
    RT Bowie, Britt

    Maybe I’m a homer on this but Keith Price is a good passer. He does hold the UW mark for tds in a single season with 33 in 2011 and outplayed RGIII in the “just say no to defense bowl”. I don’t see why he can’t beat out the riff raff as our #3 QB. Whether that’s a position on the active roster or practice squad I know not.

    Right now Small might have the best shot of the newbies of winning a “starting” role.

  5. Maybe he’ll beat out Pryor and save the team a few hundred thousand bucks. Who knows?

    All it takes is the twist of a knee from someone and, boom, Price looks like a guy who could stick if early indications mean anything.

  6. banosser says:

    Price could be a really solid #2 in a yr or so..

  7. “Other tryout players that seemed to have strong performances in camp were CB Thomas Wolfe…”

    Here is a really well written and interesting story on Thomas “Trey” Wolfe. Talk about overcoming adversity. Sounds like a Seahawk to me.

  8. I like Price, Daniels and Pryor. Would love to see Pryor stick, and Price make the PS, but I suppose competition will shake it all out soon enough.

    Wolfe is a guy who epitomizes some of the flaws in the College system. Everyone knows college football is the minor leagues of the NFL; when many smart athletes end up with BS degrees, why should an NFL talent be turned away if they are too dumb to pass college courses? Where is the morality or ethics in that?

    Of course, Wolfe likely isn’t that dumb; he simply was an immature, selfish jerk who nearly wrecked his shot at the NFL. It sounds like he grew up quite a bit, has battled adversity–mostly, but not all, self-inflicted–and has become an example of a former “character” who has developed some character of his own.

    I hope he makes it; and he might. If he’s as good as advertised, he won’t make the PS; the Raiders, Jags or Jets will snatch him up. Regardless, I wish him well and look forward to seeing him play.

  9. pabuwal says:

    Carroll makes it seem like Pinkins needs to really improve to have a shot.

    And that we can pencil Britt in as the starting RT. Sounds like Marsh could out produce Bruce Irvin this year.

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Wolfe appears to have good footwork. It will be interesting to see how far he makes it.

    Future Nickel CB perhaps?

  11. montanamike2 says:

    Having a legit RT and a decent backup LT makes this draft a good one.

  12. yankinta says:

    STTBM,, I’d love to see Pryor makes it as 2nd String QB and Price or BJ make it to PS. And trade T-Jack for 7th round pick during the Preseason. :)

  13. Dukeshire says:

    It’s really encouraging to read that Britt impressed. I’m really excited to see how he play against the vets in OTAs.

  14. Singularitarian says:

    There is really no impressing to be done on the lines against other rookies who don’t know the system wearing shorts and a t-shirt. Any position for that matter. Wake me up when real practices start

  15. GeorgiaHawk says:

    According to Dave the most impressive rookies from last year’s camp made the most contributions to the team.
    Willson, Bowie and Baily.

    That’s why I don’t disregard any part of the process when it comes to this regime.

    Always comPete Carroll.

  16. Southendzone says:

    Totally right Georgia, this is the 1st look at guys, not only the draft picks but all these UDFA’s. You never know which will flash and become the next superstar for the team. It started this weekend and these guys don’t need pads on to begin making their mark.

  17. I definitely want T-Jack to stay as backup, this year and beyond, but Im betting he leaves after this year. No way am I looking forward to losing him and going with Pryor or any of the others. As much as I like Pryor (or did in college), he doesnt have T-Jacks grasp of the system.

    As far as Rookie Mini-Camp goes, I dont believe its worthless at all. If Carrol and JS thought it was, they wouldnt bother holding it. And as Georgia reminds us, Boling says the standouts of last years camp turned out to be the best contributors. Not only that, but guys like Mayowa began showing they belonged–whatever the measurables said–right from the get-go.

    Pinkins getting burned by a guy who runs a legit 4.3 40 and a 6′-2″ WR who is known for making contested catches bothers me not one whit; no one in their right mind expects him to play at S this year, or be able to make the transition to CB fast enough to contribute much this year. He’s insurance for when we lose Maxwell after this season.

    What does worry me is Richardson hurting his shoulder after ONE DAY of practice in SHORTS! Seriously, Kam and ET might shatter him like Humpty Dumpty on his first crossing pattern…

    Premature or not, Im calling it; Norwood will make this team and contribute as a rookie. There. I said it, and Im prepared to eat crow if he doesnt…

  18. Very excited to hear that Cassius Marsh is playing well. We’ll see what he can do in pads–Im willing to bet he has even more of an impact with full contact practices–practice in shorts tends to favor speed more than strength, and Marsh isnt even that fast; his forte is strength, a high motor, and technique. That stuff will show up better in real practice…

    What is up with SEattle drafting a dude in the sixth round who cant even pass a physical?! Uh, someone SURELY didnt do their homework…

  19. I’m betting on Norwood also.

  20. Dukeshire says:

    Singularitarian – Pete Carroll would seem to disagree with that assessment.

  21. Southendzone says:

    Yeah, I’m really disappointed too in Garrett Scott not passing his physical. I was hoping for him to turn into a superstar. Would be interested to hear more info on exactly what’s going on here.

    I suppose there’s still hope but not looking good. Not worried at all about P-Rich and his shoulder. They said he had an awkward diving collision, freak stuff can happen, he only missed 2 days.

    I wish the rookie mini-camp lasted 10 days not 3.

  22. Non-football post warning! Good article on Fox Sports about the Sonics if you haven’t seen it. The NBA is dead to me now, but it brought back some good memories of the Kemp/Payton glory days.

  23. It’s a real testament to the organization that we have high expectations for a sixth round pick (ex. Garrett Scott). Anymore that’s true for any player brought in at all. Drafted, UDFAs or tryout players seemingly have an equal chance to make the team. That’s what is so great about the “competitive cauldron”. Maybe Scott doesn’t make it but Gilliam does. Maybe Pinkins gets out shined by Wolfe. Every single moment is critical to players competing for a Seahawks’ roster spot and if that spot has yet to be secured, it’s best that you don’t get hurt.

  24. I merely expected our sixth round pick to show up and compete; if he cant, he shouldnt have been drafted. JS and PC obviously value even seventh round picks, so its odd to hear their sixth rounder is failing a physical.

    You are 100% right that it will even out; Wolfe thus far IS outplaying Pinkins, and Gilliam is showing why he was signed. JS and PC dont care how they got you, if you practice well, they will play you. Just ask Doug Baldwin!

  25. It doesn’t sound like the Pinkerton did anything to impress anyone over the weekend. Sure, it’s only three days, but it was also three days against other rookies – many of whom weren’t even drafted and won’t be on NFL rosters come week one.

    It’s obviously early and things can change but early reports are that the Pinkerton has more Mark LeGree in him than Byron Maxwell.

    Looking forward to seeing a guy like Norwood on the field for myself.

  26. wazzulander says:

    Thanks danooly, I would have missed that. Those were some great times. Now I guess its time to root for the Spurs! Thank goodness we now have Seahawks Super Bowl to celebrate. At least for me, that has taken away some of the bitterness I hold about the Sonics theft.

  27. banosser says:

    It’s Pinkins… and when you get moved to a position you haven’t played since high school and go against top WR talent you will more than likely get burned.. my guess is JS/PC wanted to see his fluidity and heart on the corner… he’s a project at CB.. BB didnt light it up his first couple yrs in the League either (no pun intended)

  28. SandpointHawk says:

    But nice pun anyway you look at it….

  29. bobbyk–I dont recall Maxwell impressing anyone his rookie camp, but that might be my memory going again lol…In fact, I wasnt impressed with Maxwell until he started and played well. I never saw much from him to say he’d be able to step in and step up like he did, and it wasnt until last year that the staff talked about him as if he was a fine player…

    Which is not to say Pinkins is going to be Maxwell or LeGree. Early days yet, he’s got lots of time to win/lose a roster spot…

    And expecting him to dominate anyone at outside corner his first day is probably a reach at best. Its not the end of the world if he flames out anyhow, but I say give him time..

  30. Southendzone says:

    Pinkins has the record for most misspellings of his name in his first week after being drafted.

    Can we call him Jesse Pinkman after the guy from Breaking Bad?

  31. I’m going to keep calling him the Pinkerton and let others think I’m spelling it wrong. We hava a “Homestead Strike” play we have done and Andrew Carnegie and Henry Clay Frick hired detectives to break a strike at one of their mills near Pittsburgh (Homestead). The Pinkertons were hired to help break the strike. There’s a funny scene where someone rides up on a make believe horse yelling “the Pinkertons are coming” and the strikers are up in arms and get ready to defend their “home.” It might not be funny to you, but it is to me because I’ve seen the numerous ways some of the kids have gotten into the whole “the Pinkertons are coming” thing.

    I hope the Pinkerton (and I understand it’s “Pinkins,” and there’s no disrespect intended) makes the team and contributes. I’m more skeptical now that when we drafted him in the 6th round. Sure, Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round, but how many people on this blog has ever even heard of all the other players selected in the 6th round in that same draft? I’d be willing to bet not many. The odds are against the Pinkerton but the door certainly isn’t close on him either.

    comPete!!! to win forever!!!

  32. Ray_Maines says:

    BobbyK: I can’t dispute your point, but how many CB’s have been drafted in the 5th round have gone on to be the best at their position? That one exception gives me hope that EP can be the right side CB in the LOB for the next maybe 10 years.

  33. I hope you’re right. There are always exceptions to the rule and I’m glad we’ve got a few of our own (more than our “fair” share, that’s for sure and I doubt you’ll ever see any of us complaining).

  34. Bobbyk–I loved it you called him Pinkerton. Im a big fan of Dashielle Hammett and Raymond Chandler, and Hammett was a Pinkerton Agent, and likely was the guy who found–then refused to rat out–the IWW Union guy who was dragged to death behind a car in Butte, MT…Hammett later wrote a fictionalized novella about his experience…have you read it?

    Anyway, I got it and thought it was cool you knew about Pinkertons.

    And I totally get where youre coming from; Pinkins hasn’t exactly performed how we hoped, considering they named him as someone they HAD to get in the draft…

  35. MO–Dude, where ARE you?! I swear, if you don’t come out and talk, so I can have someone to civilly disagree with, Ima haveta bust out one of my infamous rants about the OFFENSIVE line…


  36. ..And Im actually pretty stoked for the upcoming line..!

  37. I did not know that story. Thanks for sharing.

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