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Sherman says he will remain the “raggedy dog”

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on May 7, 2014 at 12:55 pm with 60 Comments »
May 7, 2014 12:56 pm

Late last night, Richard Sherman received a text from John Schneider. He finally knew they were going to wrap up his contract extension.

Just before lunchtime Wednesday, Sherman sat on stage at Seahawks headquarters in a blue suit, with a blue bow tie and ruffled blue pocket square. Two round diamond earrings sang from his earlobes. About 45 minutes later, Sherman would say he’s still a “raggedy dog.” But, at this moment, he was the crisp-suited $40 million man.

The vociferous Sherman signed a four-year extension Wednesday morning to remain with the Seahawks until 2018. His deal is worth $57.4 million, with $40 million guaranteed — which keeping with character Sherman announced himself — proving talk is not cheap.

There were assurances Wednesday. Most came from Sherman.

He says he has not evolved from the grumpy fifth-round pick who feels slighted, make that outraged, by 23 other defensive backs being selected ahead of him. He’s not done being bitter. Not by a long shot.

“I’m still the guy scrapping for a spot,” Sherman said. “You never lose that mentality. You can take a ragged dog that’s been on the streets for 10 years and put him in a new house with steak, lobster every night and he’s still the raggedy dog you got off the street.

“I’m still the raggedy dog off the street. That mentality isn’t something I could change, I don’t think, even if I wanted to. Even if wanted to be, ‘Yeah, I’m a millionaire.’ I can’t do it. It’s not a switch that I have. I’ve been in this mentality. I don’t know anything else. This is how I’m going to be until I hang the cleats up. Then, I might try to eat caviar and drink wine, or whatever they do.”

Sherman is now the highest-paid cornerback in the league. The Seahawks managed their offseason to get this and Earl Thomas’ contract done. Sherman is the sixth 2011 draft pick to sign a multi-year extension. Five were picked on day three. None were picked in round one.

“We treaded (sic) lightly in free agency to take care of our own guys,” general manager John Schneider said.

Sherman, 26, was a fifth-round pick in 2011 out of Stanford. Since, he has roared into the populous because of his play and mouth. His live postgame rant following the NFC title game made him known to the few who, at that point, may not have known him. Time magazine named him one of its 100 most influential people. President Barack Obama imitated him at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner last weekend, which Sherman attended.

Most consider the Compton, California, native the best cornerback in football. Sherman has achieved that title through study and ambition, relying less so on pure athleticism. Though, it should not be overlooked his rangy frame contributed to him being a successful high school track athlete in conjunction with bolstering his ability now.

Sherman was pleased to finish the deal prior to the season. Again, Schneider said it wasn’t crucial to the Seahawks to get deals for Sherman and Thomas done prior to Thursday’s draft, though the timing seems to indicate it was a priority.

As for Sherman, he sounded like Thomas. Now that his contract has been extended, he gets to worry only about football.

“You never want to have something like this hanging over your head,” Sherman said. “I think it allows you to play a little bit more free. Now, I can focus on ball.”

The Seahawks have committed huge amounts to Thomas, who received $40 million total, Sherman and strong safety Kam Chancellor ($28 million total). Thomas and Sherman are under contract until 2018. Chancellor’s deal is up in 2017.

Sherman referred to Thomas and Chancellor as his “brothers” Wednesday. He thanked a long list of teammates and coaches. Doug Baldwin, his pal from Stanford who used to give Sherman rides in his Dodge Charger, and Jeron Johnson, who went to Dominguez High School in Compton with Sherman, were in attendance. They heckled Sherman as he approached the stage.

His family was also in attendance. His father, Kevin, still has not retired from his job as a garbage truck driver. His brother, mother and girlfriend sat in the front row.

Sherman said it was amazing to say the words, “$40 million.” However, at each turn when asked about money, he would pivot to say it won’t change him. After growing up in a situation where he would have to wear slippers with holes in them to school, he also added a quick philosophical thought.

“More money, more problems is a song everybody’s heard,” Sherman said. “For some reason, I just don’t believe that logic.”

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  1. HawkfaninMT says:

    Wolf Grey #25 jersey is good for another 5 years! Nice!

    @Todd: Along with your mock… Who are a couple of players (early or late round) that you think the Hawks do not want to leave the draft without?

  2. jawpeace says:

    High price to sign super stars. But there is a higher price in letting your super stars walk away. Glad legion of BOOM is going to be together for years!

  3. pabuwal says:

    Excuse me while I pull a Yanker here

    pabuwal
    DEC. 27, 2011 AT 11:51 AM
    Am I going too far by thinking that Richard Sherman can redefine the CB position?

    Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2011/12/27/morning-links-unheralded-hawks-making-waves/#storylink=cpy

  4. jawpeace says:

    CDhawkfan “I think this is an extension, so tack on this year at a couple of million, then its 5 years at roughly $60 million, or $12 million per year.”

    That is exactly what it is and by including the last year of his rookie contract in the deal; it is a great deal for Sherm and the Hawks!

  5. jchawks08 says:

    Dang, pabuwal, that was some SOLID hindsight!

  6. PugetHawk says:

    Sherman has always had a chip on his shoulder because he felt like he was earning the respect he deserved…now he has that respect. He has climbed to the top of the cornerback mountain. The only way he stays there is to work harder than before.

    Now everyone is going to give him their best shot. Other players coming into the league after him, will want to take his spot. The real work is just beginning, if he wants to be the best.

    Now we will truly see him put his money where his mouth is. I am inspired and excited to see what he does over the next 5 years.

  7. FleaFlicker says:

    Todd, great coverage today.

    Pabs, I do remember you making that statement way back when. Great call then and even better call now. I’m going to pull the Yanker maneuver in 2025 when I resurrect my comment to the effect of “15 years from now, are we going to be looking back at three HOF players in the same secondary?”

    Props to the front office. A+ offseason. Scratch that. A+++++.

    Now, I’m just hoping we can pull some of that cap hit into this year’s budget to give us more flexibility for the RW extension.

  8. CDHawkFan says:

    Pabs, you linked it, so not like Yanker who has avoided showing evidence to his claims of knowing all, I mean, 95%.

  9. FleaFlicker says:

    For all the chips on the shoulder talk, here’s something I was thinking about regarding the Sherman contract talks this morning. If Richard had been correctly identified in 2011 as being worthy of a first round contract, he probably would have made an extra $5 million per year. That’s a lot of money that Richard could have earned, so for all the people that get down on him for wanting to get paid like the best in the game; he’s delivered two consecutive all-pro seasons at barely a $1 million per. And not to mention The Immaculate Deflection.

    In a similar vein, I imagine RW will be demanding a good payday when it’s his time. When we play Denver in Week 3; Payton’s single game check will exceed RW’s entire 2014 W2. RW has delivered a 24-8 regular season record and a 4-1 postseason record and Lombardi. $15 million will be the right price.

  10. chkn_liddle says:

    Richard, Russell, Earl see what they are getting compared to others and it has to be motivating but it also needs to be rectified eventually. Check out the origins of this behavior (I posted on the other thread, but I think it summarizes our natures in wanting to be treated fairly for the putting in the same effort on the same task as someone else; whether we’re a workin’ stiff or the best football player at our position).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KSryJXDpZo

  11. freedom_X says:

    I don’t think Russell Wilson will sign a contract for $15 million/year. It will be more. Much more. Run a list of the top 15 QB salaries and you’ll see what I mean.

    You can certainly argue that many of those QB’s are overpaid (and a few are underpaid by those standards) – but if lots of people are being “overpaid”, then that’s the going rate.

  12. pabuwal says:

    Of Sherman’s $40M in “guarantees”, only $12.4m is guaranteed for this year. If they somehow cut Sherman after 2014 they don’t owe him anything else but the salary cap dead money will be huge. The remaining guarantees trigger after each of the next 2 Super Bowls.

  13. rodman says:

    “That contract is mediocre”–Michael Crabtree, Santa Clara 49ers.

  14. Southendzone says:

    Agreed freedom, 15M/year seems way under budget for RW. Unless he transforms into a pretty crappy QB this season, he will be significantly above $15M.

  15. BobbyK says:

    pabs – Copy and paste things you’ve said about Browner, Lynch, and Chancellor – to name a FEW. Also, copy and paste your beliefs in Colin Cole being more important than Brandon Mebane or Red Bryant in terms of being more important to the run defense.

    You’re a good, smart fan, but do you really need to go there? I still owe you for you thinking Oher (who is better than Curry) would be in the Pro Bowl by now, but you’re not exactly flawless in every one of your beliefs either (as nobody is on this blog).

  16. Now, Now, Bobbyk…Neither you nor me has been immune from having unrealistic expectations of a player…go easy on Pabs.

  17. bird_spit says:

    Richard Sherman for President (2026)

  18. pabuwal says:

    So I was wrong on Lynch and Chancellor.

    I never made any comments on Mebane, when the 2010 Seahawks regained Cole their run defense improved considerably (even with Bryant out) and Browner was a product of Earl Thomas.

    And finally, Matt Hasselbeck and Steve Hutchinson were 2 of the most overrated Seahawks in recent memory. We are talking about a Guard and a QB so mediocre that he would make Michael Crabtree proud. I’ll throw Browner in that overrated camp as well.

  19. pabuwal says:

    Hutchinson was one of the best Guards of the 2000s but he was a Guard. As Tim Ruskell says “we don’t pay for Guards.” One of the few things Ruskell was right about.

    No one wins anything with a Hall of Fame Guard.

  20. BobbyK says:

    You’re a good, smart fan (probably one of the smartest here and most dedicated in terms of length of years being a fan) but that’s the second time you’ve posted that same yank-style comment patting yourself on the back towards Sherm (at least you had a credible source). We get it. And you can’t be serious that the Hawks were better off saving a few hundred thousand bucks on Hutch by not franchising him, can you? Really?

  21. bird_spit says:

    Even with Hutch, Shawn would have lost a step. The investment in SA was very destructive. What RB (Morris ?) would have run behind the greatest Left side of OL in the 2000s, given that SA lost a step.. I guess you would argue that anyone would be able to run behind Big Walt and Hutch, but SA had amazing talent that was obviously hard to replace.

    I was hoping that the 2013 Seahawks would have erased the painful history of post-2006, but sadly not. Just remember, that team was very old relative to the 2014 seahawks. This team, given JS/PC charmed talent of picking guys to compete, has way more upside than the team that Hutch would have signed onto..

  22. pabuwal says:

    Ruskell should have not let both Hutchinson and Alexander hit FA together. That’s a mistake this front office does not make.

    But once he did, he should have just let Hutchinson walk. Franchising a Guard or a Center, even one as great as Hutchinson, is a great way to blow up the salary cap. The Rick Spielmans of the world are always ready to overpay for non essential talent. Ruskell couldn’t compete with that.

    If Ruskell was a better drafter it wouldn’t have mattered. But he wasn’t and the team went downhill due to age so it was easy to put the blame on the loss of Hutchinson.

    The worst thing he did was destroy the collective psyche of Seahawks fans when it comes to Guards because the ones he brought in were among the worst.

    Just a few years ago we had a ton of fans killing themselves over David DeCastro on Draft Day. Georgia had him going number 3 in his mock draft, BobbyK said he would be a top 12 draft pick, make a ton of Pro Bowls and was the easy draft pick to make. I blame Ruskell for this madness that has afflicted Seahawks fans.

    Guards are just as interchangeable as Punters and Kickers. However, I regard them as less valuable than Kickers and Punters.

  23. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    Congrads Sherm!! Now you can afford to attend my wedding on May 17th for which you never RSV’P too!!

    Joking aside well deserved! He helped put our Hawks back on the map and I am forever thankful for it all.

    I think i’m gonna go home tonight and watch that Malcolm Smith INT and postgame interview again. It never gets old.

  24. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Pabs, I was just messing with you all when I picked DeCastro at #3.

    I definitely would have taken him over Irvin though and still would.

  25. DanielleMND says:

    We’ve been trying to replace Hutch at LG since 2006. We’ve yet to succeed.

  26. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Btw, congrats on your Sherman prediction.

    I remember shortly after the Seahawks drafted Sherman I said something like him having the most upside of all the DBs we drafted that year, however I didn’t think he would be this good.

    I also remember some of us thinking LeGree would be something.

    Lol.

  27. freedom_X says:

    But, even though Seattle has failed to replace Hutchinson, they’ve won a Super Bowl. Which illustrates the relative value of that position.

  28. montanamike2 says:

    Good one Ray, isn’t that what they say about every Seahawk, except for maybe Curry who was hailed as the “almighty” franchise player. I think Pabs is right on this one, guards can be picked in the lower rounds or at least mid round if their looking real good. I wanted David DeCastro too.

  29. montanamike2 says:

    With this Regime i think that Decastro would have been properly coached up and maybe even be a very good player. You know it’s bad when this FO couldn’t find a role for him at all.

  30. montanamike2 says:

    Curry i mean.

  31. BobbyK says:

    montana – My bad (you meant Curry… I didn’t comprehend that… derrr, on my part).

  32. BobbyK says:

    When the Saints won the Super Bowl, they had the best set of guards in the NFL. The Steelers had Alan Faneca when they “beat” us. Larry Allen was pretty good in winning 3-4 Super Bowls all by himself. It’s moronic to say having a good guard (and paying him) will make sure you don’t win a Super Bowl. Maybe teams should draft busts at other positions in the first round instead of taking a good guard if that’s what it comes down to, that way when they get good and their contract comes due you won’t have to worry about paying them.

  33. montanamike2 says:

    I agree Bobby it’s a tough call, I think Bowie should be our LG, leave Sweezy at RG but definitely we need a RT. I think that’s what it comes down to. Would you rather have Walt or Hutch? It was a huge mistake to lose such a valuable commodity, if Lynch ran behind that line he’d be MVP for sure. I don’t value a guard like a Punter or Kicker and it is important to keep RW intact, but you shouldn’t franchise a Guard either. I pray for a decent or better RT in this draft.

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Fortunately or unfortunately the Guard position is the least athletic and talented position in the NFL. That’s why a Converted d – lineman from College can compete and win a job at Guard in the NFL.

    Sure there have been exceptions to the rule (like Hutch) however it is rare,
    That’s why I think Guards are more likely to be busts. And that’s why the FO won’t waste high picks on them.

    Lol, now watch them draft a Guard in round one tomorrow.

  35. pabuwal says:

    How many Super Bowl Champs since 2000 had great OLs? Are the 2009 Saints the only one? More had average to bad OLs than good OLs.

    The 2009 Saints had 2 great guards, paid 1 and let the other walk. For OL fanatics that’s similar to the Seahawks paying one Pro Bowl Safety and letting the other one walk. You can do that with Guards without a drop off.

  36. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Funny how things have changed in the NFL.
    Would either Hutch or Alexander get a huge contract now?

    Seems like both positions have lost their value.

  37. bsinnitt says:

    Good point Georgia, both RBs and Gaurds aren’t highly paid positions these days. In contrast to Pabs point though, I think it’s crucial to be able to consistently get 2 to 3 yards on obvious run downs. We don’t need stellar guard play to do that because we have Marshawn but with most other backs we’d need better guard play.

  38. pabuwal says:

    I think most teams have demphasized the run game in general and pass on 3rd and 3 or greater because it’s extremely hard to get those short yards consistently when they are needed the most.

  39. Southendzone says:

    Denver set the tone for modern run game, its the scheme and o line 80% and the rb 20%.

    You keep your line solid and draft a rb at least every other year.

    There are exceptional rbs that do even more like AP and Marshawn, otherwise you should be able to save cap on that position. You just cant let the line deteriorate into a total shit show

  40. SRVHawk says:

    There were a number of people that thought Sherm would be good going forward by the end of 2011, myself included. I did not see him being the best CB in the NFL though. Nice call, pab. I was at the Cincinnati game in 2011 and was very impressed with the way he handled AJ Green.

    This contract should be looked at as a 5 year deal IMO. He hadn’t threatened too but Sherm could’ve held out if he didn’t receive an extension. If looked at as a 5 year deal, it is 5 years and 58.8 mil for 11.76 mil a year. Don’t see how any sane person could be unhappy with that amount?

    Saying that OGs aren’t as valued anymore just doesn’t jive with reality IMO. They are drafted in the same range as players thought to be likely RTs and are significantly better paid than RTs. I do agree that they are significantly overvalued by some on this blog and that you don’t need good ones to win a SB. Case in point would be the 2013 Hawks. Here are links to the top 50 contracts for OGs and RTs. OGs are significantly better paid. The proof is in the pudding. And 2 OGs were drafted in the top 10 last draft.

    http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=RT

    http://overthecap.com/top-player-salaries.php?Position=G

  41. First off, every single move that happened in the history of the franchise was worth it because we just won Superbowl XLVIII. It was the best thing that has ever happened in Seattle sports history.

    When it comes to who you pay, you pay your BEST players regardless of position or position group. On this team it’s the LOB. On the 2005 team it was the OL. Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson were the two best players on that team much like Thomas and Sherman are two of, if not THE best players on this team. Jones and Hutch were as close to automatic is it gets. They certainly factored in to Tobeck, Alexander, Strong & Hasselbeck getting to the pro bowl. To that team Hutch was worth the money that they didn’t give him. They F’ed up. In hindsight though, thank God everything went exactly the way it did because nothing beat the beating we laid down on the Broncos. We got paid back twofold in XLVIII for everything that went against us in XL. Paying to keep our best homegrown talent is simply what you do.

  42. surelyyoujest says:

    Every front office has to put a valuation on each position based on the scheme they run. Power run Teams will evaluate OL and RB differently the Zone schemes. Pass happy Teams will evaluate the QB and WR positions differently. Even within a defensive scheme, some value the d-line more, some the LB’s, some the DB’s. The philosophy drives the valuations.

    Having said that, I certainly agree to some extent with the “pay your best players” thought, regardless of position……but you still need to overlay the Team philosophy on that. If you have a star RB, but you don’t put a high value on that position, you likely won’t pay market or above for that player…..and you’ll let him go so you can pay others…..unless you’re rebuilding and don’t have premium players at other positions that need to be paid.

    It will be very interesting to see how JS and PC prioritize positions go-forward.

  43. pabuwal says:

    I’m wondering if the 2013 Top 10 will rival the 2009 Top 10 as one of the worst ever. All 5 of the OL drafted gave their teams nothing.

    Any draft where 5 OL (including 2 Guards) go in the Top 10 is probably going to end up as a poor draft.

  44. BobbyK says:

    There are 3 guards who make over $8 million, 6 who make over $7, and 12 that make at least $6. The Patriots must be a stupid organization for paying Mankins so much.

  45. BobbyK says:

    Over/under on how many more times pabuwal is going to post his Sherman quote. The first time was fine however many days ago it was, but, geeze, get over yourself. Good job though if that’s what you want to hear.

  46. pabuwal says:

    I guarantee it won’t be anywhere near the amount of long winded rants you had on the loss of the immortal Steve Hutchinson. Or why the great David DeCastro needed to be drafted high in order to build a Super Bowl team.

    I have around 1500 times more to post the Sherman quote to get in Hutchinson territory. 500 more to hit DeCastro territory.

  47. BobbyK says:

    So you’re suggesting this team couldn’t have won the Super Bowl if they didn’t have Bruce Irvin sitting on the bench or a non-factor the little he did play against the Broncos? If they did have DeCastro it would have been at the expense of Irvin.

  48. pabuwal says:

    You’re picking a player in Irvin that so far looks like a miss given where he was drafted. There were other DL this board expected them to take that look like better picks at this point.

  49. GeorgiaHawk says:

    If we would have drafted DeCastro STTBM wouldn’t have posted over 2 million times how much Sweezy sucked.

    And I wouldn’t be posting in the future 2 million times how much Irvin is a bust.

    And we probably wouldn’t be hearing so much hyperBowie, lol.

  50. ChrisHolmes says:

    Irving needs time. Last year was his FIRST season playing the LB position. Give the kid some time to develop and learn the position. He was a rush DE in college; they’re asking him to do something else entirely now. Let him grow into the role. He has great speed; let’s let him figure out how to use it, and the team how to use him. I’m not ready to call ‘bust’ on Irving yet. Too soon.

  51. BobbyK says:

    pabs – This team could have forfeited it’s 1st round pick in ’12 (Irvin, Bruce) and still won the Super Bowl this past season. So how would picking a good player in DeCastro have hurt them and their chances if that’s who they would have taken?

  52. SandpointHawk says:

    Isn’t life grand? By tonight or at least tomorrow night (if we trade down) we will have some new draftees to rant about…

  53. BobbyK says:

    For pabs sake, I hope we don’t draft a guard tonight in the first round and he turns into a Pro Bowl player. That’d make him mad and think our chances to repeat will be worse off.

  54. pabuwal says:

    How many Pro Bowls has DeCastro made? How many Guards ahead of him have to get hurt before he finally makes a Pro Bowl?

    He and Oher have made as many Pro Bowls combined as Rob Sims.

  55. surelyyoujest says:

    Fella’s, geez. Arguing DeCastro versus Irvin is an act in futility. Neither has had a chance to become their best yet. Given the change in position last year, I thought Irvin played very solid. He had some very solid games….particularly the two games against NO. He’s on assignment more often that not, and is physical when he arrives at the ball carrier. Lot’s of upside left for him.

    Second guessing is the easiest sport in the world to be good at.

  56. GeorgiaHawk says:

    If I remember right I don’t think Hutch made it to any pro bowls his first two years either.

    Much like DeCastro he had to deal with injuries early in his career that set him back a bit.

  57. BobbyK says:

    DeCastro will be playing in the next Pro Bowl if he doesn’t get injured. Book it.

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