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Browner officially reinstated, suspended four games

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on March 5, 2014 at 2:49 pm with 71 Comments »
March 5, 2014 2:49 pm

The NFL made Brandon Browner’s reinstatement official today. He is suspended without pay for the first four games of next season. In all, Browner will be looking at almost a year between games. He last played Nov. 10, 2013 at Atlanta when he injured his groin. He should be back in early October following the suspension. He will also be on a short leash.

Here’s the statement from the NFLPA:

The NFL and NFL Players Association have agreed to conditionally reinstate Brandon Browner from his indefinite suspension under the Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse.  Browner was suspended without pay for the Seattle Seahawks’ final five games of the 2013 season, including the playoffs. His contract with the Seahawks expires at the end of the 2013 League Year on March 11. He will be eligible to sign with a club and participate in offseason and preseason activities.  Should he comply with the terms of the Substance Abuse Policy and Program, he will be fully reinstated after serving a four-game suspension without pay at the start of the 2014 regular season and forfeiting an additional four weeks of pay.

 

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  1. yankinta says:

    What?? That doesn’t seem fair. He should suffer but having served a 5 games suspension last year should suffice…. smh.

  2. So he doesn’t get to play in the SB, and misses more games than most NFL players do when they are facing multiple felonies(V.Miller, Aldon Smith)? Doesn’t seem fair, I hope we can resign him on the cheap, but I doubt that will happen.

  3. Goodell would never do that to Aldon Smith of the NFL Darling 49ers….

    Suck it Goodell, we still won the SB, and won BIG! Cry your eyes out in Private that we didnt contribute to the Legend of Peyton…

  4. ChrisHolmes says:

    I think our chances of re-signing him improve with this news.

    Every other team in the league is going to see him as a serious risk. Who wants to sign a FA to your team when you know he won’t be available for the first four games?

    Seattle could, with their depth. And PC’s mantra of “always compete” makes it easy to start Maxwell and leave him there when Browner returns, using Browner in sub-packages (outside on Nickel, etc.).

    The question I have is: do we even want him back? Maxwell acquitted himself nicely in the limited playing time he saw at the end of the season. I certainly think he deserves a shot to continue starting opposite Sherman. And if we can, I’d prefer to have T3 back for the slot.

    Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

  5. DreadHawks says:

    Agree with Chris^^^^^ I think this may open the door for a cheap Browner signing to help with depth. Our depth will be key in our Title defense.

  6. Southendzone says:

    WT3 salary should be >> BB’s in 2014.

    I don’t know if BB will win back a starting job but every team needs depth. The guy is respected by the team though and we know he thrives in this system. With Earl at FS, BB fits in well.

    Would be happy to have him back.

  7. TechWorlds says:

    We should resign him for the simple fact alone that we win games that he is suspended from playing in. #nobrainer

  8. Newborough says:

    Harsh Techworlds,that’s harsh LOL

    The Rams might come in and outbid us for Browner, as a cheaper replacement for Finnegan. Finnegan is rumored to be about to be cut, according to the guys over at NFL.com

  9. Seems there is a very good chance to structure his contract in a way to get him on the cheap. Give him a decent bonus and lower game checks, he will lose half them anyway. That is if Pete thinks we need the depth.

  10. vichawkfan says:

    He signs with Seattle for 1 yr, incentive laden deal that gets him out on the market again next year.

  11. Oddly enough, I agree that Browner having a 4 game suspension to start the season actually improves his chances of being with the Seahawks. It will drastically reduce the number of teams willing to take a chance on him. The fact that he knows the system means he could get right back into at the end of the suspension – not true for any other team.

    I’m surprised that people think Thurmond will be back – he will command much more $ than Browner, so I’d be very surprised if he back.

  12. HonHawksLSB says:

    Big Sherm and A. Luck taking in the Standord bball game!

  13. freedom_X says:

    Why would Seattle want to invest anything in a player who definitely will be out on his 3rd strike? It would be just great to be counting on Browner has depth, suffer that injury that puts him on deck, and then he gets bounced for his 3rd real strike.

    What leads anyone to believe Browner has really learned his lesson, Twitter post notwithstanding? He didn’t learn “playing in the NFL is a privilege” in 2012, and he didn’t learn it in 2013. So what’s special about 2014?

    Unless Seattle has no young prospects that might grow in 2014, I wouldn’t expend a roster slot on Browner, despite whatever salary he makes, and especially because he’ll still be unavailable for 1/4 of the season. Develop young, cheaper players instead.

  14. montanamike2 says:

    I don’t think BB will be back at the expense of one our young up and comers unless we are depleted at CB due to injury.

  15. GeorgiaHawk says:

    So what is BB going to do if the Seahawks sign him? Sit on the bench? Because there is no way he starts ahead of Maxwell now unless there is an injury.
    I’m sure there are some teams out there that will make him a starter that he will choose instead of putting his ego to the side for less to be a back up here.
    Stranger things have happened though.

  16. I think a lot of if BB returns depends on if Thurmond comes back, and if PC feels guys like Snead and Simon can handle things. I’d think it would be awesome for him to return. Maxwell played great, but

  17. I’m surprised that people think Thurmond will be back – he will command much more $ than Browner, so I’d be very surprised if he back.

    Really more money than BB??? Hasn’t stayed on the field due to injury or suspension….. 1 test away from year long correct?

  18. FleaFlicker says:

    If you’re going for a 19 game season, having Browner for the last 15 of those would be great, especially if it is in a back-up role. This team wins on its depth of good players. Knock-on-wood, throw salt over the shoulder, etc., but it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Sherm or Maxwell get a concussion/sprained ankle/broken rib/etc. which causes them to lose a few weeks. Browner would be a hell of a safety blanket. Or who knows, maybe Pete and Dan Quinn scheme it up and use Browner in the nickel package to just flatten the slot receiver at the LOS and hand off coverage responsibility to a LB.

  19. montanamike2 says:

    BB is great going against some of the bigger receivers, but the smaller speedy guys can exploit his weaknesses. Don’t get me wrong because i think he’s still a great press corner.

  20. GeorgiaHawk says:

    About 10% of these free agents are Seahawks or ex-Seahawks-

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/05/the-free-agent-hot-100-3/

  21. Macabrevity says:

    Anybody have any thoughts on whether BB would be able to back up Kam if necessary? He seems to have the body for the position, no idea if he could play it though…

  22. CDHawkFan says:

    From ESPN;

    •CBS Sports thinks quarterback Colin Kaepernick will average $20 million-plus in his new contract, which is being negotiated and which could be struck this offseason. I believe it. The man is going to get paid.

    Its going to suck when San Fran over pays Kaepernick. RW will be worth more as he is a more well rounded QB, but will he take less? Even with a salary cap moving up, $20 million-plus a year seems like too much if you want to have other good to great players on the roster.

    They just had a CBA what a year ago? I think its already getting out of control.

  23. montanamike2 says:

    Tony Romo just restructured his salary and he’s still overpaid by a bit.
    Kap is going to ruin the team much like Flacco did to the Ravens.
    I hope RW will be content with rings and endorsements by taking less to have a better team, he seems to see the bigger picture.

  24. montanamike2 says:

    Kap might end up getting Harbaugh canned.

  25. Southendzone says:

    I strongly doubt that RW will be taking any sort of a discount when it’s time to renegotiate. Assuming this season goes well, he’s going to want every bit of that $20M/year (and more maybe).

    MY reasoning?

    Remember his rookie year when rumors were out there he wanted to redo his contract (even though CBA doesn’t allow it)? Maybe it was true, maybe not.

    See him hanging out at the Nets game with Jay-Z?

    See him grabbing every endorsement deal, and every media opportunity that comes anywhere near him?

    See him saying he wants to own a professional team?

    Yeah, we see the boy scout RW who gets up early, studies film, and visits sick kids every week, but don’t let that fool you, this guy is going to go for every $ of what he believes he’s worth, and he will get it.

  26. CDHawkFan says:

    I agree with you SEZ.

    So in 2 years when the cap is at $150 million and Wilson at $20 mill, that leaves $130 for the other 52 player. $130 million is about where we will be this year. Problem is, you will have Sherm and at least ET (Wags) at big money not reflected in this years roughly $130 million, then you also have the expected yearly increase that seems to happen with rookies contracts, FA, even signing your own once their contracts expire, everyone expects a raise.

    Not sure how teams like Denver can pay £20 million today for a QB, oh thats right, they get killed in the SB by a young team filled with cheap talent, most notably a cheap QB.

  27. HawkfaninMT says:

    Re Schoefield:

    He was one of my favorite pick ups last year, and I think he could still have a strong role on this team. But if he is going to go somewhere… Please god let it be Jacksonville! He will get paid handsomely there. He will get a ton of playing time there. He should put up some stats there due to his PT and the fact that he isn’t that bad. Add all that up, and it should fetch us a decent comp pick

  28. montanamike2 says:

    Maybe i am being naive about his salary demands but i can’t help thinking that he sees what those Mega contracts do to other teams. He’s stated that he wants to be remembered as one of the best players that have ever played, (i like that he said one of the greatest , not the greatest). He’s thinking HOF for sure and you can’t get there very easily without rings to show.
    Re Schoefield: he’ll have fresh legs too, i thought we’d see more of him this season but we’re so deep at that position.

  29. BB would be excellent trade fodder mid-season for a contender who has a CB go down. Assuming we are healthy at the time.

  30. yankinta says:

    Hope to keep Schoefield but if he leaves via free agency,, we should get a 5th round compensatory pick… As you know, 5th round picks are like gold to/for us… :)

  31. yankinta says:

    With all these free agents leaving,, and many of our picks from last year red shirting,, we are not likely to be active in free agency,, except signing our own,, I am starting to think we would get back 4-5 compensatory picks next year,,

    Is there a cap on the number of compensatory picks we can get?? I wonder… :)

  32. CDHawkFan says:

    Yank, Schoefield earned less than $1 million last year (after being cut by the Cardinals), and on top of that, he didn’t play much.

    He would have to sign for roughly 3 million and start, or play a bunch to be a possible 5th.

    Not sure why you think someone would give him that much $ after being cut last year (when any team could have had him after being cut) and he didn’t show much through the 2013 year because he didn’t play much.

    Why stop at 5th round, why not 1st round?

  33. Kaep wants 18 million a year, and I cant see him getting it. Cutler is overpaid, and its likely his contract has some trickery so there’s a way out in 2-3 years for the Bears. Kaep hasnt played up to that level yet. Hell, Brady is “only” making 14 million a year. I guess Kaep thinks he’s better than Brady?

    Winning or not, RW still makes mistakes and though he has a good arm, its not a rocket like Kaep. Nor is he as accurate on 30 yard plus passes as the truly elite qb’s–Brady, Manning, Rogers, Brees, etc. So I certainly hope he doesnt command 20 million a year.

    If he wants that kind of money, Seattle can just let him run out his current cheap contract, then tag him the next year.

    I think his value will be more in the 13-15 million range per season. Then again, if he comes out next year and starts nailing some of the open WR’s he missed this year, he will be in the elite class. I guess we’ll find out.

  34. I also think Kaep’s value is down there with my projections for RW. Of course, Im biased and believe RW to be the better qb now AND in the future. But Im sure the Whiners will have to pay him more than they should…Hahaha!

  35. Just remember – PC/JS are exactly where they want to be at all times. These are not fly by the seat of your pants kind of guys. They know what they want, and are not afraid to pull the plugs or the triggers.

    Be careful what we wish on the Jaguar team too. He had a front row seat on this build. Nowhere but up for them to go.

  36. WiscCory says:

    I personally hope and believe the Seahawks are done with BB. Why waste more time with him?!? He played well when in the games, but has missed entirely too many games doe to stupid decisoins. Maybe Goodell is more harse than on other players, but let’s be honest…BB simply has made some dumb choices. I’m tired of the wrap the Seahawks get due to people like BB. Enough.

    Let him sign with the Rams, Cards, Jags, Raiders, whoever.

    Sad, becuase he cost himself a ton of money. That may be the most expensive joint ever.

  37. RDPoulsbo says:

    BB isn’t coming back unless there’s real desperation. Re-signing him would go against Schneider’s philosophy of building with young, hungry and up and coming talent. Browner will be 30 next season and on the decline. Instead, look for Maxwell to step up with Shead being the #4 guy with the 5th one being filled out in the offseason.

    Thurmond is likely gone as well. He’s proven he can be a capable starter in this league and someone will pay him to become one. Not everyone can have a Sherman and Maxwell starting for them.

  38. RDPoulsbo says:

    Lane as the nickel CB that is.

  39. yankinta says:

    CDHawkFan,, you don’t know how much he’ll sign for nor how much he’ll play. But based on his potential alone,, playing a ton of snaps for a team like Jags is totally possible. He does have the talent.

    I don’t think you know much about compensatory picks. The highest compensatory pick you can get is a late 3rd rounder… smh..

  40. doubledink says:

    It was sarcasm, yank

  41. Southendzone says:

    You say Cutler is overpaid, but in comparison to what? Read LaConfora’s article on CBS sports about Kapernick (if you haven’t already), it lays out the QB marketplace pretty well.

    Aaron Rogers sets the bar at 22M. Depending on when the contract, an elite QB is going to be north of 20M right now.

    Your next tier are the Romos and Cutlers of the world. They haven’t necessarily proven as elite but the have the physical skill set to win as a QB.

    If you’re Kapernick, aren’t you going to the negotiation and saying:

    “Cutler is a headcase with some injury history, Romo has never won a playoff game, I’m the most impressive physical specimen at the QB position in the game right now, my playoff record is 4-2, and I’m young, now go get your checkbook and sign me up for 5yr/$100M”

    Then you kiss your bicep, drop the mike and wait for an answer.

  42. yankinta says:

    Southendzone,, the 49ers commit 20mil a year to CK,, Seahawks Fans should Love it!! because all CK does in come up to Seattle and throw picks and gets blown out… this will ensure that trend for the next 5 plus years… :)

  43. TechWorlds says:

    If Mr. One Read is worth 20 million, Mr. Preparation W is worth 30 million.

  44. MoSeahawk12 says:

    So glad we didn’t get the opportunity to throw 20+ million at Payton Manning a few years back. Our team would look very different today. Doubt that we’d have that first Superbowl win. At least we have another year before we have to redo Russell. Of course with a second Superbowl win, he might just have a little leverage when the time comes. I’m ok with that.

  45. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Yep STTBM, the truly elite Manning was so accurate, in the Super Bowl, especially beyond 30 yards. Lol.

  46. Pretty sure the NFCCG wasn’t a blow out . . . . . .

  47. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Wilson hasn’t lost to any of the “elite” QBs in his two years in the league.

  48. Well…Luck is elite and Wilson lost to him.

    How do I add all those annoying smiley faces in there?

  49. yankinta says:

    lol,, Luck is not elite… show me a stat that makes him look elite, and I will show you a dozen that shows he’s barely average. smh..

  50. yankinta says:

    btw, Ron Winter’s inept crew did not even get to work one playoff game, as I predicted. Shows how inept they were last year, especially in that Colts game. smh.

  51. Southendzone says:

    Luck’s middle name is Elite, and his college nickname was Clutchy McClutcherton.

  52. Actually, if Peyton Manning had signed with the Seahawks, imo, the ‘Hawks would have beat the Ravens in the SB last year (they would have won the division instead of giving the Cards a bye in week 1) and the ‘Hawks would have AGAIN beat a crappy AFC team – just as they did this past season (the Pats minus Wilfork, Gronk, and their top 949 WRs?). And the way things shaped up, we’d have an “untested” and “too short” back-up QB after Manning and we’d be “screwed” if anything happened to Peyton. Of course, nobody is allowed to have a thought outside the box so this will be treason… lol.

    common sense and game film is a good indicator of Luck being good. Heck, T-Jack would have single handedly “beaten” the Broncos this past Super Bowl if nothing else mattered. The Seahawks defense and special teams scored more than the greatest offense and the history of the NFL in the Super Bowl. No one player wins a Super Bowl, unlike the belief of some.

    While we’re on that same topic, why does everyone KNOW Terry Bradshaw was never a great QB but you can’t be a great QB today without winning a bunch of SBs?

  53. yankinta says:

    I agree that Luck is good. Being average in the NFL isn’t bad. But being elite or top 10?? Not even close. For those that think that, I’d say that’s more of ESPN’s brain washing then common sense.

    I think the perfect revenge for Peyton Manning blowing our FO off at the Denver Airport during his free agency, is by blowing him off when we meet him. This will be another blow out when they visit the Clink this upcoming season…. he will continue to get embarrassed each and every time he has to play us.

  54. doubledink says:

    http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/media/podcast-mitch-in-the-morning-ondemand-mitchinthemorning/34-mike-holmgren-24432554/

    BobbyK, since you live out of state and most likely haven’t had a chance to hear this; and your long time angst over the Futch Fiasco, and my good intentioned ribbing of you over the years since to “let it go”, I post the above link to the Mike Holmgren interview where he tells his side of that awful story.

    I got worked up about it all over again, lol. Enjoy

  55. How many SBs can a team win with a pig QB when the new CBA forces all draft picks to work cheap?

  56. ChrisHolmes says:

    “So what is BB going to do if the Seahawks sign him? Sit on the bench? Because there is no way he starts ahead of Maxwell now unless there is an injury.”

    Teams play too many 3-WR and 4-WR sets now. BB wouldn’t sit on the bench.

    In a standard defense, it would probably be Sherman and Maxwell on the outside, subbing BB for Maxwell if he needs a breather.

    Then you go to nickle, and you can put BB on the outside and Maxwell inside, against the slot receiver.

    I don’t know how many snaps Maxwell saw at slot before he was forced into the starting role on the outside, but I believe he can play that position.

    It’s going to take more than 2 good corners to keep this defense at its highest levels. And you still have to guard against injury to Maxwell or Sherman. BB gives you depth and a knowledge of the system, and he’s a big body who can swallow some receivers in this league.

    With a four game suspension looming to start the year, a team that is familiar with him, like Seattle, can structure his contract in such a way that they aren’t on the hook if he gets his 3rd strike.

    I think it’s a win for Seattle if they can get him back under the right contractual circumstances. And I think Browner understands this is his last chance to play in the league. I’d be surprised if he screwed up again.

  57. How come when I type “Harbaugh” in my phone, it always auto corrects to “Garbage”?

    Seriously.

  58. It’s called a “smart” phone for a reason.

  59. Since you brought up the 49ers, I’ve got to wonder if they feel it’s time to swing for the fences this year. Watching the Hawks do just that and seeing the final result has to drive them mad. They have a ton of draft picks to work with. Will be interesting to keep tabs on at the very least.

    At Harbaug my phone goes to “Garbage” but at Harbaugh it goes to “Jar sigh” for what that’s worth.

  60. montanamike2 says:

    I’d be surprised if he screwed up again too.

  61. RDPoulsbo says:

    Lol…had to try that on my phone. Harbaugh is garnish according to mine.

  62. Mo-Nobody else on this team lost to an elite qb this year either, so I guess our entire team is elite? Or do you mean RW won those games by himself?

    We lost to teams led by Krapperpants, Luck, and Palmer. We can lose to anyone if we lose to guys like Palmer. Any given Sunday. Its a team sport.

    Georgia–I doubt anyone would argue with calling Peyton Manning elite, regardless of his lessened arm strength or his performance in the SB vs the Greatest Defense of All Time!

  63. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- Not many are arguing with calling Wilson elite either anymore.

    You are about six months behind Wilsons progress but like so many others you will come around eventually.

  64. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Lighten up, every win is a team win. Just pointing out that Wilson, on this team has yet to lose to any or your “elites”. All those guys had accuracy issues against our D. Wilson benefits of course.

  65. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Not to mention Wilson plays behind the worst O-line in the history of the NFL(according to some), so that must count for something. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. Wilson has the record for most wins ever by a QB in his first two seasons. Plus he was the starting QB for the first ever Superbowl win. These are things that his agent will list out when it comes time for his next contract. I still don’t believe Wilson or any QB/player is worth $20 Million a year. Team sport for sure, but the guy pulling the trigger sets the table. Wouldn’t any player on the team, even one of the O-linemen have the same amount of wins as the QB? Say James Carpenter? James was on the team one year before Wilson and actually has seven more wins than Wilson. Interesting thing, this team sport.

  66. ChrisHolmes says:

    Wilson did play behind a horrible line. That much is certain.

    Is Wilson ‘elite’? I am not even sure I know what that word means any more.

    How about we just ask questions with some context. Like, “If you were starting a franchise tomorrow, who would you choose to be your QB and face of the franchise? Who would your top 5 QB choices be?”

    To answer that question, I’d say Wilson. Because of his youth, skills, mind and work ethic.

    My top five would be (in no particular order):

    Wilson
    Rogers
    Luck
    Breese
    Eli Manning

    And if I had to draft someone this year: Bridgewater.

  67. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Agree on the Elite tag. It gets thrown around way to often. Wilson has proven to be a winner. Great leader and rapidly ascending QB with a Superbowl win in only his second season. Too soon to qualify for elite status yet. To me, elite means a guys performs at said level for years and years. Consistently puts up the numbers year in and year out regardless of the players that come and go from the team. Tom Brady has done this for most of his career. He probably had one of his best seasons last year throwing to a bunch of no name replacement receivers. Yet he still played up to his level. He’s elite. Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees have shown many years of consistent, quality play with numbers to back up their elite status. Eli has two Superbowl wins and could be considered, but he is very inconsistent. You have a lot of guys that are making elite money that shouldn’t be. Romo, Matt Ryan. Matt Stafford, Jay Cutler to name a few. I think Wilson is great and after a few more consistent years, he will easily join this select group of elite QBs. Regardless, he’s the guy that lead us to our first Superbowl win ever. That will always be true.

  68. GeorgiaHawk says:

    ChrisHolmes- That looks like a good order.

  69. I believe the hawks should not particularly waste time waiting for Bennett to sign while other possible replacements get signed elsewhere. If another comes along before Bennett signs, we should sign them and let Bennett play for some loser. BEnnett isn’t the only game in town and hawks aren’t some loser team that can’t attract others lookingto play cheap for a ring

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