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Morning Links: Tarkenton talks Wilson

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on Jan. 17, 2014 at 2:11 am with 116 Comments »
January 17, 2014 10:51 am

Good morning. Three days until we know if the Seahawks are going to the Super Bowl.

We’ll start today with my story on the person Russell Wilson is often compared to: Fran Tarkenton.

Tarkenton and Wilson met last season when the Seahawks were in Atlanta for the playoff game. Tarkenton runs a financial business out of Atlanta after his college success at the University of Georgia.

Each have ties back to Richmond, Va. Wilson grew up there, Tarkenton was born there.

Each were third-round picks, predominantly because of concern about their height. Tarkenton is six feet tall. Wilson is listed at 5-10.

If you take a look at some of the stuff Tarkenton pulled off, notably spinning away from pressure, it will remind of similar action from Wilson.

Tarkenton’s style was far from tradition when he entered the league in 1961. He’s happy to see two mobile quarterbacks in the mix for the NFC title. But, is insistent each — like he eventually was — is acknowledged as a passer.

“Russell Wilson can pass,” Tarkenton told the TNT. “He’s a passer. An NFL passer. So is Colin Kaepernick. Now, these two guys can also run for a first down. Run for a touchdown. Scramble to buy time and that should be an advantage for a quarterback.

“I say these are quarterback savants. What makes a Russell Wilson leave the pocket dash right or left, or a complete spinout? It’s the instinct they have … all that’s got to come together, and I’ve never known a great quarterback who didn’t have a football brain. They have an instinctiveness and awareness of what’s around them and what’s going on and make sense of all the chaos.”

During the interview, Tarkenton also lambasted the NFL combine and what scouts are looking at for drafts.

“If Peyton Manning wasn’t Peyton Manning and he went out to the combine today, they wouldn’t draft him because he’d be the slowest guy there and he’d have the worst arm there,” Tarkenton said. “And look what he’s done. He’s broken every record.

“Big arm, big this, big that. That’s why they miss on so many. That’s not what it’s about. It’s about your it factor. That’s what Russell Wilson has.

“It’s knowing where and when to throw it. Most people cannot process all that information. That’s why you have very few people who can play that position at a great level.

“And they give them the Wonderlic test. They could give the Wonderlic test to the brainiest guy on campus. Doesn’t make him a quarterback.

“You see this across the board. You wonder what in the hell do these scouts do? What do these football people think about?”

> Our John McGrath says one thing mitigates all others in this game: the Seahawks are at home.

> Colin Kaepernick says his struggles at CenturyLink Field are in the past.

> Our notebook for the day looks at Michael Bowie. Considering the chatter around here, we made a call to the Big Man himself and had God write the story, so he could explain how Michael Bowie was created. We gave God the pen name TJ Cotterill.

> Over on the news side, our Kari Plog wrote about misplaced 49ers and Seahawks fans.

Other links:

> Excellent article here from Grantland on Pete Carroll’s 4-3 under philosophy.

> Greg Scruggs takes on the role of Good Santa.

> Predictions from the NFL live crew:

> Richard Sherman says the Seahawks strive to be the best defense ever.

> Sherman also has his latest column for MMQB where he says they expect to dominate on the way to the Super Bowl.

> Picks from SI’s Don Banks.

> with some more on Derrick Coleman, whose commercial has thrust him into the spotlight this week.

> The San Jose Mercury News wonders if the Seahawks-49ers rivalry can match the 49ers-Cowboys rivalry of the past.

> Joe Montana picks the …. 49ers.

> At the risk of wasting everyone’s time, here’s a link to some comments from Roddy White about Sherman and the Seahawks.

> Picks from the Sporting News.

> 710 ESPN writes about Frank Gore as a “person of interest.”

> Russell Okung talks about facing Aldon Smith.

> Picks from USA Today.

> USA Today also looks at the relationship — what there is of one — between Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh.

Leave a comment Comments → 116
  1. SandpointHawk says:

    Enjoyed the Richard Sherman article in SI on Byron Maxwell’s journey to starter. The fact that Maxwell came into the league ‘stiff’ was news to me…
    “Maxwell came into the NFL stiff—literally. He couldn’t touch his toes while standing.”

  2. jawpeace says:

    “Tarkenton also lambasted the NFL combine and what scouts are looking at for drafts.” I bet Richard Sherman loved Tark’s thoughts.

    Can’t wait till the game only 2.5 days away.

    Whoopee dingdong about Joe Montana picking the Whiners. NO DUH. Just like if you asked Jim Zorn who he is picking to win, and I bet he would go with the Hawks. Most X-players pick with their heart not their head.

    BTW I absolutely love Derrick Coleman’s commercial! Being born with a 70% loss in both ears, I really identified with his story and found it inspirational.

  3. CDHawkFan says:


    Mr Bevell starts RW out with a few short passes, not the 5 second 20 yards down field kind. Take the easy stuff.

    They leave in ML to chip the DL for San Fran and allow Miller to go out on 5-10 yard routes.

    If we don’t have Harvin, make the kick returner down the ball in the endzone and start at the 20.

    Make sure you talk to the punt team, teams have been getting close to blocking another and I bet SF will try for a couple.

    Hire 5 more guys this weekend to watch the TV to determine if you should review/challange a play.

    Talk to a few of the guys (Earl and Kam) about not drawing a 15 yarder for celebrating a tackle or hit too much.

    Consider playing your run DL most of the game, can’t give up 5-6 yards on 1st down.

    Be ready for clock management, hire a couple of smart guys to stand next to Carroll during the final 3 mintues of the halfs to tell him when to take a TO.

    Use Mike R and ML on the passing game more, shovel pass or two.

    Tell RW to run, run and run more.

  4. CDHawkFan says:

    Off topic, but if Harvin doesn’t play due to a concussion than I am going to think that something is up with the way that the Seahawks or 49ers deal with concussions.

    San Fran had a week where both Davis and Reid went out with concussions (Reid’s) 2nd of the year and they were both back the next week. V Davis concussion this year was the 2nd within a year, he was back on the field 4 days after his first concussion and again played this year the next game after his concussion.

    Of the 5 concussions I remember the Hawks having earlier this year, Unger and I think Big Red missed the next game, so did Sweezy and Kerse had a bye after his. The only one I remember coming back for the next week was S Williams, but he was hurt on a Thursday in preseason and had 10+ days before the 1st game of the season.

    I know P Allen just gave money for research on concussion, is there anyway he is getting involved and making the team be a bit more cautious, or maybe the 9ers don’t give a crap. I am not a doctor, so assuming here, but I would guess if you really want to fake out a doctor on a concussion 5 days after, I am guessing you can. Heck, those players a few weeks ago were faking out the doctor during the game. Do you think some teams might be pressuring the guys into playing or saying its not bad, where others with an owner who has given a lot of money on the subject stick to the rules?

  5. montanamike2 says:

    CDHawkFan, i think there’s something to the 49’rs coming right back after concussions. When you cheat you’ve already lost! I don’t think SF is built as well for the long haul, they have a lot of aging vets and we are young. The chemistry is only with them while they are winning, but with Aldon and Ahmad how can they be role models? I think the Rams and their boatload of draft picks is more concerning for the future, the ‘Cards haven’t got a good QB(yet) after Carson Palmer and he’s getting up there too. I think Fitzgerald comes here for less after his contract is up, he wants rings. I love the banter Bobbyk has been giving about Michael Bowie, it would be nice if some of our first rounders stick around, maybe even become impact players. Almost every ex player picks his team to win every game so the bias is blatant. Good job on the links Todd. What insight does Parish Cox have?

  6. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I was looking at the 49ers roster before Jim became coach there and much of the core of their team was already in place.
    And his first year he got a good draft position because the 49ers were so bad.
    Other then a few decent players,(like Kaep and Aldon Smith) they really haven’t been that great at finding Impact players like the Seahawks FO has. Especially in the mid to late rounds.

    It will be interesting to see how the 49ers do, (talent wise) as their core players get older and if they can replace them with similar talent.
    I think that’s where we will have an advantage over them moving forward.

  7. Dukeshire says:

    Todd, Thank you for reposting Chris Brown’s piece on Seattle’s defense. I put it up yesterday but fear it was buried. It is a must read for anyone interested in truly understanding what Seattle is doing on defense.

  8. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Montana said that if he didn’t pick the 49ers he would be run out of town.

  9. montanamike2 says:

    I don’t think they’ll get another Justin Smith and we’ve seen the difference without him.

  10. montanamike2 says:

    Man this old pentium 2 is slow, even after all the upgrades i’ve done.
    2 days to go! I love our future and the future looks bright.

  11. GeorgiaHawk says:

    As usual a lot of hate for Sherman on his MMQB article.

    I like this response to them in the Comments section-

    “1st Team All-Pro two straight years.”

    “Lead the NFL in picks 2014″

    “Leads the NFL in picks since coming into the league 2011.”

    “These two Facts about the Predator have been accomplished while the opposing QB’s throw to his man the least amount of times for the last two years running. Put that in your lack of knowledge pipe and smoke it, Chump.”

    “GO HAWKS!!!”

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Great Tarkenton article Todd. He was one of my favorite players growing up.
    He’s very similar to Wilson, however Wilson is stronger and faster.

    I also see similarity’s with Johnny Football.
    I think because of Wilsons success Johnny Football will go high in the draft. Perhaps #1.

  13. I think had Harvin not got that second hit he would be playing this weekend. That second hit was the knockout blow, literally.

  14. I know Todd has been putting up the pressers and no offense, the quality at is just far better. If you haven’t watched those videos from the last couple of days, I encourage you to.

    Pete – The whole reason why we are where we are today is because of Tod Lieweke and Pete Carroll. His presser yesterday illustrated just how he’s in a class by himself. Watch it.

    Derrick Coleman – Is an amazing human being. Well spoken, sincere and engaging. I really like this guy.

    Dan Quinn – This guy is a superstar. I really hope we get to keep him another year (it kinda looks that way), but when not if, he gets a head coaching job, I will continue to root for him (like I do Bradley) b/c there’s just too many cool things to like about this guy.

    Kam – Said he models his game after Sean Taylor and Earl. Another cool cat that embraces this rivalry and just has a great vibe about him.

    Dougie Doug – The more I see him, the more I hope he’s here for the long haul, as in retires as a Hawk. Edgy yet very, very bright. Total team guy that will do whatever it takes to get the W.

    Bevell – He’ll get his shot at coaching too. I like him but hope he pulls out all the stops this weekend. Been kind of vanilla lately and I’m not sure that’ll cut it against such a familiar foe.

    Golden – Definitely was not comfortable in front of the cameras. Wants to say the right things, very careful with his words. I think he means well, but seemed a little awkward.

    Yesterday had some great clips as well.

    The further we go, the more media attention we get, but what has been great is getting to know these guys on a personal level. Our team is full of bright, articulate hungry guys that have wholeheartedly bought into Pete’s philosophy, but make no mistake, this is Pete’s vision. I watch him every day, listen to every interview I can, and can say his inspiration carries over into my professional life. We’re so very lucky to be where we are as fans today. It’s never been better.

    Can’t wait for Sunday!

    GO HAWKS!!!!

  15. ChrisHolmes says:

    Great comments by Tark. He’s so spot-on with his comments about the combine.

    Every time people talk about quarterbacks in the combine I want to slap someone. They just keep looking at the same WRONG factors every year…

    Glad JS overlooked the height issue and saw Russell Wilson for what he really possessed.

    And Sherman too.

  16. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    if it is a close game i think seattle loses, i expect Hawks to continue to dominate 9ers at home. i think D scores once and special teams as well. i think wilson 22/34 255 2TD Hawks 34 9ers 16

  17. Michael Bowie will not allow the Seahawks to lose.

    I don’t think I’ve ever wanted to wish a weekend away so badly before and it hasn’t even officially started yet!

    When I was just a little kid, I saw Tarkenton play in a meaninless preseason game late in his career at the Old Met in Bloomington, MN. He definitely was just a little guy, but good.

    pabs – I’ve thought that too, about the second smash to the gord that Percy took. Still holding out hope, but not counting on it.

    Duke – that looks good, I’ll have to check it out later today.

    Michael Bowie is the reason Waldo is in hiding.

  18. RDPoulsbo says:

    I’ve long boycotted watching the combine as well as read our use any ‘stats’ from it. It is one of the biggest wastes of time of all of professional sports for a fan. There isn’t enough space on the internet for me to explain the great many reasons why it is so worthless. Yet, every year, people take it in as gospel for why player x will be the greatest player to take the field. Glad to see Tark tell it liked it is.

  19. montanamike2 says:

    Michael Bowie is the reason Waldo is in hiding.

    Love it.

  20. I liked Wilson even more after watching him in the combine than before.

    Before it, I was looking for the Seahawks to draft Wilson in the 5th round and the combine clearly boosted his stock.

  21. montanamike2 says:

    Thank God they scooped him up before Philly.

  22. On the radio Carroll just said Harvin still has not yet been cleared to practice. He can still be cleared, but really what are the chances?

  23. Macabrevity says:

    CDHawkFan – I like the checklist. One point about Harvin’s concussion though, as someone who also suffers from migraines, I can tell you a hit to the head can be a lot more significant than it might be for someone else with normal brain capillaries.

  24. Dukeshire says:

    SeahawkNJ – Thank you, that was great. From that article, I loved this…

    “A former player tweeted a story about Chancellor back in September: “[One tight end] ran this crossing route and started to drift, and on the other side of that drift lived a young man. A 6 foot 5 230 pound young man. This young man hates visitors. He has a sign on his yard that says… ‘Trespassers will be Hugged & THUGGED’. This young man hit this Tight End SO HARD, I swear I saw that TE’s soul leave Qwest Field right on that 35 yard line. He hit him so hard the entire stadium went mute. They didn’t want to cheer someone being killed on the field.””

  25. dirtbiker_joey says:

    Thanks for the link to the Grantland article, that was a good read.

    One thing that gets lost to the casual fan is the amount of off-field preparation these guys do. Sure, everyone knows they lift weights and prepare their bodies, but the amount of study and film work they do to prepare mentally for each game is lost on many fans.

    I had an argument with my dad a few weeks ago. I proposed that most NFL players are smart. I even contend that the majority are of above average intelligence. My dad, laughed at that notion, claiming that success in the NFL is borne of repetition in practice. On game day, players just react to situations they’ve faced in practice or prior games. Now, I don’t disagree that reaction and instinct aren’t an important component of a player’s success, but football is such a complex game that there’s much more to it than that.

    Whether you’re a QB or DB, a linebacker or offensive back, or even a lineman on either side, you need to be able to recognize and understand what’s going on instantaneously. The classic “dumb jock” isn’t able to do this, and ends up being weeded before long if they even reach the NFL. Case in point was a certain linebacker whose name shall not be spoken, but was a former number 4 overall pick by our very own Seahawks.

  26. Macabrevity says:

    re: the combine,

    Sure it’s imperfect, and far from a science, but the results are visible. The NFL is bigger, faster, stronger, and doesn’t seem to have a ceiling. We’re getting guys on the DL and OL who could probably beat the 40 times of most WR’s and HB’s from the 70’s maybe even the 80’s. Each year the performances seem to outdo the previous. As a fan of the combine and the draft, I understand we’re not always getting the best ballers, but it’s fun nonetheless.

    I think someone on this blog commented about the pro bowl and said we should just do a skills competition, I think that would be a ton of fun, and I remember when they used to do that in the off-season. One of my favorite memories was a head-to-head race between the Bus and Natrone Means… man that was cool.

  27. Dukeshire says:

    That’s an old story. Came out last summer.

  28. RDPoulsbo says:

    Ruskell really loved those workout warriors of the combine. That should be enough. A fast track in Indy to give you nothing more than straight line speed. Petty good for a sprint competition, but has pretty much nothing to do with having a guy make directional changes in full pads on a football field. I really don’t care how many reps a guy can do with the bench press either. If you can’t get leverage, you’re just pushing yourself backwards. An entire weekend of draft “experts” falling all over themselves talking up the next Aaron Curry. Need I go on? Just crap TV I’d even say makes draft watchers less knowledgeable about the game of football.

  29. Duke, thanks for trying to link us to that Grantland article yesterday. I tried to read it but your link went instead to the article about the dude at the C-Link who got the super bowl tattoo on his arm. I was thinking, WTF? Duke’s lost his head. lol.

    Chris Brown’s article on Grantland is a good read!

  30. yankinta says:

    Prediction Time….. I’m predicting 24-10 win by the Seahawks…. How about you? :)

  31. I think the Hawks need to score 20 points to win. If our offensive line has a good game, they can do it.

    20-17 Seahawks. In overtime.

  32. jchawks08 says:

    Speaking of the Wonderlic test.. Not sure if it’s been mentioned on here before, but it’s depressing, and I didn’t believe it when I heard it from a 9er fan and had to confirm for myself.
    Russell Wilson scored a 28
    Colin Kaepernick scored a 37

    Weird huh?

  33. Frank Gore scored a 9 on the wonderlic test. Or was it a 6?

    They just have to play football, not engage in a battle of wits with Dr Moriarty.

    Kap got a high score, and he is still not smart enough to realize that kissing yourself looks bad.

  34. WiscCory says:

    Pabs – good comments on the pressers yesterday. I’m kinda dorky in that I look forward to getting to bed and watching the press conferences. Again I say, it’s a good moment to be a diehard fan.

    Props to Todd for tailoring the daily updates to what he’s seeing and reading in the blog. Even adding some of the great links that the blog members are posting.

    Yank, I’m taking Hawks and the Over.

    Bobby, I don’t think your radio host realizes you live in MN, not WA.

    Lastly, although a great clip of Tark was included above, that era of football just seems soooooo much slower than today’s game. That makes Wilson’s game that much more special. Let’s not allow any more dogging of the guy, and be greatful for what we have. Not only with his play, but Wilson’s comments on children’s hospital on Tuesday really shows us who he is inside!

  35. dirtbiker_joey says:

    16-13 Seahawks

  36. chuck_easton says:

    OK, it’s Friday coming up on 11:30am here in Calgary. I’m running around the office in my Wilson #3 away Jersey. One of the other partners is running around the office in his Brady #12 Jersey and the majority of the staff are confused!

    I have a standing bet with our articling student for this weekend. We win the student is buying me lunch. And if the unthinkable happens, I pay.

    The other partner and I are both hoping to be wearing our Jersey’s two Friday’s from now and turning this place into one big pre-Superbowl party on Friday the 31st.

  37. jchawks08 says:

    24-17 Hawks.

  38. 23-0 Hawks

    GO HAWKS !!!

  39. rbuzby: “Kap got a high [wunderlick] score, and he is still not smart enough to realize that kissing yourself looks bad.”


  40. jchawks08 says:

    Yea, that’s why I was so stunned! Kap SEEMS like such a low-class DB tool-shed. He couldn’t possibly have much smarts about him.

  41. dirtbiker_joey says:

    There is no correlation between class and intelligence

  42. TallyHawk says:

    As has been stated that grantland article is a very good read. Grantland is easily one of if not my favorite reads on the interwebs.

  43. jchawks08 says:

    Meh.. I’ve ripped Kap on numerous occasions because of the way he carries himself. I mean his attire after the Carolina game was just ridiculous. The difference between the way he and RW carry themselves couldn’t be any more different.
    I respect the crap out of his game though. Dude is steady ballin’ right now. That being said, I’m not overly concerned with him facing our D at home.

  44. GeorgiaHawk says:

    IQ is different from EQ.

  45. RDPoulsbo says:

    20-17 Seahawks. Gonna be a tight and exciting game. Just trying to talk myself into sucking it up and paying that $400 for SRO tickets right now.

  46. It’s hard for me to pay a lot for something where I have no idea if I will be depressed or elated after it’s over.

  47. pabuwal, you will be elated

  48. Seahawks win a close one, 13-9

    If Harvin plays, it’ll be 17-9

  49. RDPoulsbo says:

    I also think this Sunday’s game IS the Superbowl. I’m not impressed with either Denver or NE. They’ve both been stumbling their way forward each week with new season ending injuries. Both would lose to either SF or Seattle. The game in NY just seems anti-climatic compared to the NFCC one.

  50. GoldenGate_Nate says:

    I bet the under on this game. Neither team will score 20. Two things I am very confident of:

    1. This game will be low scoring
    2. This game will be close

    Final: SF 17, SEA 13

  51. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Wilson will throw for 145 yards. Harvin won’t play, or play for long.
    Special teams will screw up one time and the great Bowie will be overwhelmed and allow 2 sacks.

    And the Seahawks will still win 24-16.

  52. WiscCory says:

    From Grantland

    “Sherman had the most interceptions in the league despite being targeted less often than any corner in football”

    Not sure if that’s true, but the thought of it is incredible.

  53. Wow! The last couple days on this blog have been the best I can remember. There are so many things I’m grateful for, and the fun and contagious positivity of the past few threads has been awesome, not to mention the great links and cool stories.

    To Bobbyk; thank you so much for starting the fun with Bennett and Bowie as Chuck Norris; most fun I’ve ever had on this blog and I’m proud to have participated in something positive.

    Thanks to Sluggo and all the others who joined in as well. And yes, if I were female I would have Bowies kid!

    Todd Dybas; great job on your link to the story on Bowie; your sense of humor is on full display there; nice!

  54. chuck_easton says:

    Kap was adopted by an fairly upper-middle class family and was raised in suburbia.

    Why he has decided as an adult to attempt to re-connect with the lifestyle that would appear to be more to his birth, and not how he was actually raised seems confusing at best and fake at worst.

    Many players who come from the projects and the gang life (I worked as a cop every day for 5 years in the worst projects in SF, so I have first hand experience with the environment) have a difficult time breaking away from that environment simply because they are suddenly affluent. That I can understand. There is that pressure to not be looked at as a sellout. There is the constant pressure from the people that the player has left behind to ‘give back’ and stay true. There is the pressure to not your back on your roots.

    But this is a situation where you have a guy that for all purposes was raised ‘white middle-class suburbia’ and is trying to go all ‘ghetto’ in appearance, speech, and body language.

    He was only a couple of weeks old when he was adopted. Kaepernick’s adopted parents are white. When Colin was 4 years old the family moved to Turlock California. Current demographics of this Central California town is 68% white, the political makeup is Republican (in the House) and the median family income is close to $50,000.00 annually.

    I understand that he is bi-racial. But he was not raised in the ‘hood’ like Lynch and others were (Lynch is proud of this and is why he gives back to the Oakland projects). He attended a public high school that has only been in existance since 2002 and his well funded. He attended a very good University.

    The image Kaepernick is projecting in no way resembles his upbringing. I’ve seen the daily life in the projects. I can fully understand where Lynch came from and how it has shaped who he is. I don’t get Kapernick’s image. It isn’t who he really is.

  55. Flip GGNate’s score…17-13 Seahawks and they cover the -3.5.

    That’s my dream…reality is Carroll works them into position for a long, late FG by Haushka for a 20-17 win (and the 3.5 burn strikes again).

  56. yankinta says:

    I’m laughing at those 98% of the Media that prefers CK over RW…. C’mon….

    RW is hands down, Top 5 QB….playing behind 29th ranked (pass protection) O-Line.

    CK is average…. about top 15 QB,, playing behind top O-Line in NFL.

    I guess, RW will shut up those people again this Sunday….can’t wait!! :)

  57. Seahawkfan78 says:

    I want a blowout!!!! 42 – 3 Seahawks!

  58. Tarkenton is a cool dude. I don’t always agree with him, but I always like to hear his opinion; he’s passionate, intelligent, opinionated, and defiantly his own man.

    The story on Scruggs is fantastic. It’s really cool to hear stuff like this. He’s also one of my favorite underdogs. I think he’s gonna make the team next year, especially if we lose Michael Bennett.

  59. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- Agree. That’s what I like about Todd the most, his sense of humor.
    If Sandos ever developed one he would have his own prime time show.

  60. montanamike2 says:

    That Kellen Winslow jr. article cracked me up.

  61. Prediction:

    Michael Bowie’s blocking will open the hole for Marshawn Lynch’s first TD.

    Following this, Michael Bowie will return the 49ers first punt for a TD, he will block all FG attempts, and he will sack Colin Kaepernick twice.

    At the end of the game, Kaepernick will kiss Michael Bowie’s biceps.

  62. Dukeshire says:

    Stevo – Damn, sorry about that. Weird. Regardless, it is a fantastic article.

  63. Kap isn’t anything yet Chuck, that’s the problem. He’s a smart kid and a freak athlete, but he doesn’t really know who he is. There’s been neither time nor incentive for him to develop character in his young life. Some adversity to overcome would go a long ways towards helping him grow as a person.

    I respect him as a player, but he’s classless and immature and I hope our D whups him but good on Sunday…

  64. sluggo42 says:

    Agree slave, Bobby’s Bowie thread saved my day while stuck in jury duty waiting to be called. A few of them were epic funny. Toda, and earth swimming were a few that were butt gusters.

    This is a serious, perhaps the most serious game we have ever prepped for. I have many 49er friends here in Cali, and they are all Just as nervous as I am. Nobody is overly confident, and everyone is worried sick. One girl is even having panic attacks… Haha

  65. GeorgiaHawk says:

    montanamike2- I bet Winslow jr was really looking for Jack in the box instead of Boston Market.

  66. yankinta says:

    Love this quote by Gantland!!! :)

    “If you think Wilson is the fifth-best quarterback in football and not the second-best, that’s fine. If you think he’s the 15th-best quarterback in football or something like that, you’re probably not cut out for player analysis.”

    I do think he’s Top 3 but will settle for top 5 QB, for now….

  67. Georgia–Yes, Sando lacks Dybas’ edge. Sometimes Dybas comes off as arrogant–contradicting commenters snidely then refusing to acknowledge when wrong–but generally that edge is what propels discussion, and this blog is partly shaped by that personality.

    It’s different than with Eric at the helm, but good in its own way. If he wants to leave/move up, it will happen for him. I predict we will miss him when he’s gone.

  68. montanamike2 says:

    I wonder if Winslow was listening to Aqualung by Jethro Tull.

  69. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I think this woman can handle Winslow-

  70. McGraths article is well written as well. Man, about half the time his articles seem half-baked to me, but the other half are great reads. This one is fun and well reasoned. Dude can really write when he’s on his game.

  71. Hahaha Montanamike2! I love Tull! Winslow is a piece of work…

  72. man, it’s pretty fun having our team in the spotlight all around the internet, the country, these days. will be exponentially more so if we can get this win on Sunday.

  73. STTBM, they say that being miserable builds character. I’d be more than delighted to see Kaepernick build a lot of character on the field this Sunday at the hands of the Seattle D.

  74. aelliott11 says:

    Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today? Did Percy practice today?

  75. WiscCory says:


    “All the money generated by “Beast Mode” goes to Lynch’s Fam 1st Family Foundation.”

    It’s not really Marshawn benefitting. But, I get your point.

  76. seahawksteven777 says:

    The troll will go back to his dungeon this weekend where he will continue to talk to his imaginary friends about how Russell Wilson is a top 5 QB, why Luck isn’t a top 10 QB, and seek out satisfaction/dissatisfaction from what experts say/predict.

    Meanwhile, the rest of us will be focused on what really counts. The NFC Championship game. Go Hawks! I am feeling more confident about this game as the week goes on. I can’t help but feel that being at home is going to be the edge in this game.

  77. jchawks08 says:


  78. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    I just heard on ESPN Insider that Percy Harvin has not yet been cleared by doctors to return to play. They said he’ll have until tomorrow to clear concussion protocol. Let’s face it, again, he won’t be available when we need him most.

    I consider him a first round bust because we used our first round pick on him. As I’ve said before, he is the biggest first round bust in Seahawks history because he’s played the least. So much hype, with such little production. With so many free agents to resign, I’d be really disappointed if Brian Bosworth…err I meant Percy Harvin wears a Seahawks jersey next season.

  79. seaturkeys says:

    Do the Seahawks gain anything from cutting Harvin next year?

  80. HawkyHann says:

    Kappernick is like Clerance from 8-mile who claims free world. He is the poser boy of posers. It would great if Bruce Irvin reminded him where he is from, real talk. Its time for Bruce to make “impactful plays”. I want him sacks, knockout blows, forced fumbles, ints. This is the biggest game of his life, make it a memorable one, please.

  81. HawkyHann says:

    Poster boy

    I want to see

  82. HawkyHann +1

  83. CDHawkFan says:

    Not saying it will happen again, but Irvin’s biggest game so far was going back to Atlanta (home for him) last year after Clem went down in Washington. He didn’t really do much.

  84. jchawks08 says:

    Irvin really had a quiet year. Does anyone have any actual analysis of his play this year? Very steady, but nothing sticks out at all.

  85. yankinta says:

    seahawksteven777,, I’m only trying educate fools like you that think Luck is Top 10 QB…cuz the media says so. Like Bill Barnwell says “you’re probably not cut out for player analysis”…. don’t hate, be happy…

    For those that think RW played bad at 49ers… His QB rating was 81.9. Only because he threw an int, during the last 20 seconds of the game in Hail Mary Situation. If he cared about his Stat, he would have thrown the ball away,, except he wants to give his team every chance and threw the Hail Mary…. Without the int, his QB rating would have been 102 for the game,, now that’s a Fact. :)

  86. GeorgiaHawk says:

    jchawks08- Irvin is next in line for being a bust now that Carp is officially one.

  87. jchawks08 says:

    Seemed like a weird season for Irvin. It was just like he was there. I don’t recall any number of bad plays for him. I can think of a couple good ones. But most of the time he was just invisible. I’d put Clem in the same boat. He started out really well once he was able to come back from his knee. Seems like he hasn’t had a sack since October though. I guess that speaks to our depth. It’s unreal.

  88. WiscCory says:

    I think Irvin’s highlight game was Pre-season game 4. The one before his 4 game suspension.

    Actually, the game in St. Louis was pretty good. He was “not bad” in games 5-10 range, but seemed to quitely go away.

    Unimportant story – I took my black (green numbers) Lofa jersey to a seamstress and had Irvin’s name put on it. I have yet to wear it “proudly”.

  89. jchawks08 says:

    WiscCory, that’s funny, because I was going to say that. I went to that preseason game vs Raiders and want to say he had a couple TFL’s. Good call.

  90. CDHawkFan says:

    I was actually happy with Irvin, while he didn’t have the stats, when was around the play he seemed to be a man amongst boys at times. I like him, maybe not #15 overall good, but I’ll take him for the next few years.

    Not a bust.

    Clem on the other hand will be gone with the draft, Scruggs and Avril signed for next year. Just haven’t seen enough from him.

    If you want to talk about a ‘ potential bust’ I offer up Christin M. He should have more touches, and more touches in prime time just like that NO back last weekend.

  91. Harvin has been officially ruled out for Sunday’s game.

  92. boycie99 says:

    I guess they are saving him for the Super Bowl.
    Seriously the D better bring it as this game Sunday is even more on them now

  93. Dukeshire says:

    If it hasn’t been apparent to folks here before let me just say how much Seattle misses Rice, now. With Harvin out, there is no one who can pull defenders out of the box. Sunday’s game just became that much more difficult.

  94. Dukeshire says:

    They’re not saving Harvin. If he could go you better believe he’d be green lighted.

  95. jchawks08 says:

    Yep, just heard the Harvin news. Amazingly, I have no feelings about it one way or the other. Maybe because he’s only played exactly 1 (one) 1/2 of football the entire year. He’ll probably be SuperBowl MVP though. :D

  96. The Saint head hunters got their mark. I actually despise the Saints more than any other team in the NFL. I hope Sean Payton contracts some awful disease.

    On the other hand my wife just came out and called Harvin a pussy…LOL. She says guys get hit in the head every day! She’s Vince Lombardi. She says he’s the Matt Kemp of football. LOL she’s a hard-ass.

  97. jawpeace says:

    Not so fast on cutting Clemons. The guy tore his ACL last January. Most professional men are not back to full speed until after a year. It is truly remarkable that he was playing 9 months after the injury.
    The one I see getting cut for sure is Rice as he was under-performing before suffering the serious knee injury.

  98. Bummer on Harvin. Thanks Saints. Hopefully, he’ll have a shot to be SuperBowl MVP. Getting him that shot just got at least a tiny bit harder than it would have been had he passed the protocol.

  99. Crap, I bet I could’ve got the Seahawks at -2.5 now…

  100. Bush fined 21K…guess the Saints’ bounty budget is going up…

  101. CDHawkFan says:

    Would be very interested to see how many concussion each team had this year and how many times the player missed the next week.

    My count;

    San Fran 2 concussions no games missed

    Hawks 6 concussions 4 games missed (the other 2 times the player had more than 7 days to recover before the next game). So really 4 of 4

    Hawks; Harvin, Big Red, Sweezy, and Unger all out the week after a concussion. S Williams had 10 days to recover after his week 4 pre season concussion, Kerse had the bye week to recover from his.

    San Fran; Reid concussed vs the Hawks in week 2, then again in week 10 vs the Panthers. Did not miss week 11. V Davis concussed late last year vs Kam and was back in practice within 4 days. He then was concussed vs the Panthers this year, did not miss the next weeks game.

    I know there are other medical issues involved, but do we really have that much bad luck???

    While no one would admit it, I am guessing the Hawks doctors have been told be be more cautious by Paul Allan.

  102. Sean Payton should get fined or suspended for congratulating his player for getting roughness penalty.

  103. CDHawkFan says:

    Found an interesting website on NFL concussions, someone trying to keep track this year (this was after week 16, week 17 stats are hard to get as the season is over and teams don’t have to report them). No stats on whether or not the player made it back the next week. Hard to believe Jax can have 11 and the Bears and Bills 1 through 16 weeks?

    Team Breakdown
    JAX – 11
    CIN – 10
    OAK – 9
    CLE, MIN – 8
    NYJ – 7
    GB, NE, PIT, SD, SEA, STL, WAS – 6
    DEN, DET, TB, TEN – 5
    BAL, KC, NO, NYG, PHI, SF – 4
    ATL, HOU, IND, MIA – 3
    ARI, CAR, DAL – 2
    BUF, CHI – 1

  104. What would be the likelihood of us seeing Luke Willson used more during this game? He had a pretty big game versus the 49’ers the last time they played.

  105. Macabrevity says:

    Chuck – nice post on Kap’s background vs Lynch’s

  106. freedom_X says:

    Taking away carries from Marshawn Lynch to “prove” Christine Michael can play is idiotic. He’s future insurance – just because you don’t immediately cash in on your insurance policy doesn’t make it a waste.

    Seattle needs to get Harvin one of those oversized helmets (like Wes Welker had to wear last week.)

  107. Soggybuc says:

    Lol Vegas56, don’t take this wrong but I think I love your wife!
    Time for “Angry” Doug to step up and let his inner Hulk fly.

  108. So far we are cutting – Harvin – Irvin – Clem.
    We fed a troll – AGAIN!

    and hell we haven’t even finished our season yet!! Let’s get to the games. I am hoping the stadium is as crazy as it was in ’06. Have not heard it that loud any time since them.

  109. CDHawkFan says:

    Freedom, not away from Lynch but take them away from Turbin when it matters. Obviously the coaches don’t think CM was up for it so as of now, he was a 2nd round pick wasted. Wasted when we could have had a G or WR that could be helping now and picked up a ”future back” in this years up coming draft.

    I am sure the hoped to get him some touches and experience (more than his mop up duty this year), but he wasn’t doing something right. Hope that changes next year.

  110. RDPoulsbo says:

    Christine Michael is a waste, especially with Turbin in front of him. Want future insurance? Get a cheaper rate on the 3rd day of the draft, not with a 2nd round pick, where you should expect immediate impact, if not a starter. Yes, this was a deep team going into the draft, but as with all teams in the salary cap era, they all have holes somewhere, and that somewhere was the o-line. But I guess Bowie can come out of his break and take out half of a defense’s front 7, so there’s that.

  111. Coaches and GM’s have to ALWAYS look to the near and far future on draft day – if they don’t they won’t be around long. That being said – I really wish we could hit a triple or a home run with our 1st and 2nd round picks like we do later later in the draft.

  112. HawkyHann says:

    Bruce Irvin 40 31 9 2.0 1

    I’m not calling him a bust but not sure he’s a game changer this season. I thought he’d be. I do hope he does not get stiff armed to the ground like last week. That was really bad.

    Best of luck, Bruce. Crush Crappernick and cause a turnover.

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