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Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on Dec. 14, 2013 at 1:37 am with 63 Comments »
December 14, 2013 1:38 am
Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn quickly won over the group. / AP photo
Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn quickly won over the group. / AP photo

Good morning.

The Seahawks’ search for a new defensive coordinator to succeed Gus Bradley back in January was brief. Dan Quinn was snatched right back from Florida.

His hiring brought relief to many on the Seahawks defense, particularly the “Legion of Boom.” Quinn had a good relationship with Kam Chancellor and Earl Thomas from when he was the defensive line coach in their rookie seasons.

I wrote about how Quinn quickly had the defense’s trust, as well as Pete Carroll’s, shortly after being hired. Being the coordinator for the league’s top defense 13 games into the season has only reinforced his aggressive approach.

Today is a travel day, so we’ll be a little light around here.


> ESPN looked at Russell Wilson’s home-road splits.

> 710 ESPN’s version of Double Coverage for the game.

> The Seahawks need a little help to clinch things this Sunday.

> USA Today wonders if the Seahawks’ receiver will be their downfall.

Doug Baldwin apparently read said article.

> This has nothing to do with this weekend, but I’ll add it just for fun.

> Giants receiver Hakeem Nicks said the Seahawks defense bends the rules.

> Newsday says the Giants must keep their cool against the trash-talking Seahawks.

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  1. montanamike2 says:

    Good for you Doug. Tom Coughlin is already whining like Harbaugh to get calls, and Nicks talks a lot of crap. Sherman is already in his head even if he says he’s not otherwise he wouldn’t keep talking about it. Love to see the Saints and especially the Whiners tomorrow.

  2. montanamike2 says:
  3. bird_spit says:

    Time to kick some giant ass.

  4. CDHawkFan says:

    I must have missed something, I thought the NFL had some Saturday games leading up to he playoffs, like the last 2 weeks. I don’t see it scheduled that way. Anyone know when this changed?

  5. montanamike2 says:

    I might be wrong CD but i thought they were wildcard games.

  6. seahawkfan97 says:
    Im thinking the same thing about Saturday but nothing scheduled.
    Way to motivate Doug Baldwin…thank you USA sorry for what you are about to receive Tom Coughlin…go hawks

  7. seahawkfan97 says:

    Kerry Eggers interviewed Paul Allen at a blazers game about hawks and blazers…good stuff if you haven’t seen it, there is a link to the full interview at the bottom of the blazers edge article…go hawks cant wait til tomorrow

  8. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Nice link on Paul Allen seahawkfan97.
    It’s so great to have an owner that doesn’t screw with the organization like Snyder and Jones, although Jones was good in the beginning when he let Johnson run the show.

  9. montanamike2 says:

    I loved reading the comments from that stupid article on USA Today.
    Baldwin is jacked!

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    There will be three pretty good undrafted WRs in Sundays game. Baldwin, Cruz and Kearse.

  11. GeorgiaHawk says:

    So Coach Tom Coughlin said Friday he planned to ask the officiating crew to keep an eye on the excess physicality of the Seattle defensive backs.

    “That might be something that comes up throughout the course of the conversation [during the pregame meeting with officials],’’ Coughlin said with a grin.

    Let’s see how much grinning Coach Coughlin does after the game starts.

  12. confucious says:

    I would argue that our receiving corps sans Harvin and Rice is one of the best the seahawks have ever had. I don’t know the stats, but when the ball is thrown their way, they catch it. Not an excessive amount of drops this year imo.

  13. Southendzone says:

    The great thing about that Coughlin article, is have you seen that dudes face before? I’m pretty sure he hasn’t grinned since the late 1920’s when his mommy tickled his belly while giving him a bottle.

    Other crazy thing I learned today is that there’s a GB packer fan site named South End Zone that came about in 1995, that predates my use of this nickname but I didn’t steal it from them, it was independent from my own brain.

  14. confucious says:

    I always cringed when RW targeted Rice It’s a 50/50 proposition on whether he would catch the ball or be injured at the end of the play. And Harvin hasn’t played but in one game.

    Our no name receivers had a lot to do with the record the Seahawks have.

    The anonymous football executive in the BSA Today column was probably John Shnieder looking to fire up the troops before an important run of games.

  15. confucious says:

    Southendzone; I was a packer fan before the seahawks incarnation.

    My blog handle was created because they used to list the Bloggers name and then “says” before each entry. Which resulted in “Confucius says”. After several cups of coffee I must have thought that was clever….then I misspelled it.

  16. thursday says:

    All this pregame rhetoric confirms that inferior teams still get up to play the Seahawks because it’s a challenge. Hopefully we’re ready this week

  17. jawpeace says:

    Hey Doug’s tweet was perfect for yesterdays piss battle BORING rehash, “Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Doesn’t mean their opinion is an intelligent one.”

  18. Southendzone says:

    Light snow right now at the meadowlands stadium. Hoping for good weather tomorrow, messy conditions will favor the weaker team. No need to NYG to get a lucky break.

  19. sluggo42 says:

    Getting super tired of the other teams crying to the refs that our boys are too rough in the DB. It’s become the norm now that they all need to talk to the refs cuz the boys are such meanies. What a bunch of fricking crybabies.

    Maybe coach Pete needs to talk to the refs before the game and ask them if they are going to be biased against his team again because their coach, his mommy, and the chick sideline color commentator all cry about it. Really getting tired of every team crying before the game about rough play from the LOB

  20. There are a lot of poor articles written, that’s for sure. If it weren’t for crap like that though we wouldn’t appreciate the good stuff though as much as we do when we do read it.

    If we don’t win the SB though, it’ll be more the fault of LG, C, RG, and RT than it will the receivers (or the defense allowing a game winning drive).

  21. HawkyHann says:

    Seahawks 45-17. Game won’t even be close. Giants are horrible!

  22. Skavage, I think you meant Breno.

  23. CDHawkFan says:

    In 2011 week 15 (this week) there was 1 game on Thursday and 1 on Saturday, then week 16 had 1 on thursday but most of the games on Saturday as Sunday was Christmas. Week 17 had all the games on Sunday.

    2012 there was 1 Thursday game in week 15, no Saturday games. Week 16, no Thursday game, but 1 on Saturday. Week 17 all the games on Sunday.

    In summary, who knows. Must have to do with how Christmas lands during the week.

  24. montanamike2 says:

    I guess that kinda makes sense.

  25. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    We’re getting about 4/5 inches of snow today but tomorrow will be fine. Clear skies mid 30’s

  26. Southendzone, we all suspected you were a secret Packers fan and especially Yankinta, who is 122.3 degrees of right in any context and for all sample sizes.

  27. tealskin says:

    Guess if it works to be whiney before, during, and after a game, more opposing coaches will do it. Think it sucks that coaches can work the officials before the game though.

  28. Singularitarian says:

    If I was a ref, I would tell these whinny coaches “look, I ref the game, you coach it you start getting in my face telling me what to do and I’ll start with a personal foul penalty, then I’m just going to toss you” I would tell that to Tom Brady the second he started whinning too. It’s disgusting how much in the refs face crybabying they let Brady get away with. Watching NE live last year blew my mind. these refs gotta find their nuts and not let anybody dictate how they do their job, and especially not let any player or coach get in their face on game day

  29. Refs don’t toss coaches for getting lippy. There is no incentive. In fact, I can’t recall it ever happening; they take more crap than any other sporting officials. If I’m an opposing team, I’d think about doing the same thing but you have to have credibility and Harbaugh has it. It’s frustrating but effective.

  30. montanamike2 says:

    That Boldin was able to push the ref and get away with it is pure BS.

  31. sluggo42 says:

    I’m hoping for a point of over saturation of crying, where the refs just ignore the tears…

  32. Singularitarian says:

    Joreb, the incentive is to put them in their place. Whatchu talkin bout no incentive?

  33. The last time I remember a secondary as good as ours, it was in the days of Lester Hayes and the Raiders. I believe they did all the same stuff as our guys do and they were simply called the best. No whining about bending the rules, etc. as far as I can recall, and I hated them.

    There’s nothing for this but to tune them out and beat the other team. If and when we win the SB, it will put the seal of approval on our style of pass defense, and other teams will follow. And besides, with all this crap about “defenseless” players and can’t hit here and can’t hit there, maybe the defense deserves a break.

    I’ll take Doug Baldwin over just about any non-Seahawks receiver in the league. Yeah, and I’m a homer and proud of it.

  34. Put them in their place? Can you think of a previous situation where that has actually occurred?

  35. Dukeshire says:

    Every head coach in the league tries to work the refs. That’s just part of the culture.

  36. TallyHawk says:

    My problem with the refs is their inconsistency, both in game and between crews. They will call something ticky tacky then two plays later miss something blatant that happens right in front of them. Also some crews call stuff tighter than others. It’s like like different umps having different strike zones. It should all get called the same. I wish they’d add a ref or two to the crews. The size of the players and speed of the game is too much for guys twice as old as the players they officiate, IMO. Probably wouldn’t help but it can’t hurt.

  37. Yeah, in this hi-tech day and age with all the money the NFL makes they should put a ref in the booth with full veto power and access to replays. They would have to keep him from slowing down the game too much somehow but when we all see a bad call but it can’t be changed there must be a better way to do things.

  38. TallyHawk says:

    I agree Duke all coaches do it and I’m cool with it. What I don’t like is when they do it through media interviews or press conferences, which seems to be harbaughs way of going about it.

  39. TallyHawk says:

    I agree that there has to be a way to get more calls right but I’m not sure replay is the answer. They can’t even get all the plays they review now right. I can’t stand when they are reviewing a play and after 1 look I’m saying its a catch, they then go to commercial only to come back and still the refs need 5 more minutes to say incomplete.

  40. I’d like to see a guy upstairs who could call down the head ref and say I saw it better, you’re wrong change it now.

  41. Or, at least give teams an additional challenge and allow penalties to be reviewed. At least, that practice would enable teams to jump on a bad penalty that could affect the outcome of a game.

  42. WilliamPercival says:

    Huge difference in stance with this “whine to the ref” talk between day Harbaugh and Carroll. It really is nice to see Carroll show respect and class by not having meltdowns after a controversial call. Not to say he hasn’t been pissed and used profanities (just got to read their lips), but there was a huge gap btwn the opposing side line and ours this past weekend.

    As for Boldin, there’s not a player on that team that I despise more than he (though I do despise Harbaugh more when talking about the organization as a whole). It may seem a bit strange in that he’s only been there less than a year and you can still find a Dante Whitner, Crabtree, Kaep, Bowman and an Alex Boone over there. His episode with the ref, flinging Lane across the field illegally and constant taunting/celebrating (none of which were called for penalties), only stoked that fire.

    Just curious, who is your least fave Whiner..?

  43. raymaines says:

    I’ll never understand why a coach can’t challenge as many plays as he wants as long as he keeps getting them right. You should be able to challenge bad calls until you get two wrong ones.

  44. Southendzone says:

    I only have 2 49ers I don’t like, other than these 2 I respect them as a good team:

    1) Harbaugh, this guy is clearly a great coach, but his antics and attitude on the sidelines are despicable. He probably acts just like I would if I were an NFL coach, but I know I’m a a complete jackass and Harbaugh thinks he’s the 2nd coming of Christ.

    2) Whitner, total short mans complex, always trying to show how tough he is. I don’t respect his game in terms of skill level nor in terms of his faux toughness. I think he’s the LEAST tough safety in the game and if anything he shouldn’t be changing his name to Hitner, it should be to Charmin cause he’s so soft.

  45. EWU playoff game starts in a few minutes on ESPN3 (on-line).

  46. WilliamPercival says:


    That Charmin comment had me Rollin’.

  47. RDPoulsbo says:

    Greetings from Stevens Pass. Conditions are pretty good for early season. Just killing time before going out again.

    This team would be screwed because of the WRs if it was built like NO or Atlanta. Good thing it isn’t. The WRs get open because Lynch forces 7 and 8 man fronts, so there’s lots of room to run in the secondary. As I’ve hammered away at long before Carroll was HC, the current trend offenses are going is fatally flawed for the NFL. Sure Seattle is paying way more than other teams on, RBs, but that’s far cheaper overall than paying insane money teams are giving to WRs.

  48. Which Seahawks offensive lineman has the best run blocking grades this season? The answer was abit of a surprise for me…..

  49. EzraMelech says:

    I’m not saying that I don’t disagree with a lot of calls. However, we do have to remember that the refs are human. They have an incredibly, incredibly difficult job. And just like players on the teams, some are better at their job then others. I completely agree though, that I would like to see the rules clarified. Seems one ref crew calls things one way then another crew calls it different.

    Again though we have to remember that the refs are human. Think if you were in their place and had someone chatting in your ear the whole game, I don’t care how fair you try to be it’s likely to effect you. Where I think the change needs to be is in the rules themselves. Rules need to be clarified, and clear and not based upon a refs judgement call so much.

    The NFL already does a decent job of “reviewing calls” (After the fact) and the crews are upgraded downgraded based on performance. As some on the board have suggested though, maybe challenges should be included to “Any play.” Limit the number per game, But sometimes replay can really help. That’s why we complain so much. WE SEE the replays and we analyze the plays over and over. I would challenge any of us though to make the call live with any consistency.

    I don’t see adding 1 or 2 challenges more to the game adding a lot of time to the game 3 or 4 min maybe. To me though it’s a win/win. Bad calls will always be a part of all sports. The officials are human and make mistakes. But by adding a way to challenge calls that would effect the outcome of the game would go a long way to appeasing players, coaches and fans alike.


  50. jawpeace says:

    WilliamP, For me it is Harbough. I was glad the TV was 6 feet away because I wanted to throat punch his whinny ass last week so many times.

  51. Singularitarian says:

    The reviews are getting there slowly but surely. They now review every scoring play/turnover. They need to be able to review PI calls to see if they are legit. Unfortunately pass interference could be called on most every play, so reversing a call would be tough. But it should still be a option

  52. Nice article Todd-

    Also -what is a typical game morning routine look like for the team?

    Do they eat together – do walk throughs? Travel to stadium all together or waves ?

    Just curious

  53. Dukeshire says:

    blocis – Thanks for that link, interesting. Although this: “…and James Carpenter and J.R. Sweezy’s combined -19.7 run block grade is as bad as you’ll see from any pair of guards.” was exactly what I’d expect.

  54. Ewalters7354 says:

    Vernon Davis is my least fav Whiner.He’s overrated all because he HAD elite speed for a TE.He gets credit for being physical,but always seems to get injured.Dude also cries game in and out.I think Jim Harbaugh motto is ALWAYS CRY.Probably on the door of their locker room lol

  55. Ewalters7354 says:


  56. Too many to say they are my least “favorite.” I dislike most of them (not as human beings, since I don’t know them personally or what they and/or their families have done to make the world a better place).

    Opposite end of the spectrum… I do like/respect Pat Willis and Mike Iupati.

    Easier to say the ones I like/respect than otherwise.

  57. Ewalters7354 says:

    I also like Pat Willis.Dude is a baller.So is Bowman,both Smiths,and Brooks.They have a lot of players I respect because they simply can play the game at a high level.But the are a bunch of crybabies on that team.Like coach,like team.

  58. 10 am can not get here soon enough – I want to see a BIG pass rush tomorrow :)

  59. Macabrevity says:

    Normally I respect any coach who gets his team playing at a consistently high level, but Harbaugh really irks me at times. I wouldn’t mind him so much if he were out of our division, and it’s not that I want us to be play cupcakes either, he just really adds animosity to what should be mutual respect in what has become a real clash of titans.

  60. CDHawkFan says:

    Man, forgot how long a week can feel, really its more like 2 weeks since he NO game.

  61. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    Big game today!!! Let’s go baby!!!

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