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Morning Links: Herrrrrrrre’s Percy

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on Nov. 16, 2013 at 6:15 am with 43 Comments »
November 16, 2013 1:39 am

Good morning.

All signs are pointing to Percy Harvin’s debut Sunday. I wrote about that for today’s paper.

The Seahawks are likely to make a couple moves today. Russell Okung is expected to be added to the 53-man roster, which will force someone off. Seattle also has to determine what it is doing with injured cornerback Brandon Browner. That answer is likely to come today, too.


> Playbook video for the Vikings and Seahawks at

> Here’s some more on Mike McCormack.

> Here’s “double coverage” of the game from ESPN writers.

> The Falcons’ William Moore was fined for his hit on Golden Tate.

> Vikings QB Christian Ponder expects to play.

> Adrian Peterson said he wants to stay in Minnesota as trade questions begin to swirl around him.

> Jonathan Martin met with an NFL investigator Friday.

> Three issues with the 49ers’ passing game.

> This is sports-related, sort of, if not NFL related: Batkid took over San Francisco yesterday.

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  1. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I’m looking forward to seeing Harvin play, and I’m really looking forward to seeing the battle between the two best RBs in the NFL.

    I have a feeling though that Wilson will out shine them all with a huge game.

    Oh, and it will be very interesting to see how our special teams coverage does against the best return game in the NFL.

    Seahawks- 42 Vikings- 14.

  2. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    Very interesting trying to pick our 7 inactives this week with so many guys coming back.. Here’s my guess, first off Okung’s back and that Caylin guy will probably get waived. If not him then maybe Lockette or Mayowa but I’m guessing Caylin. Also I think they dress 8 OLine this week as insurance with 3 guys coming back.

    Bj Daniels
    D Coleman
    M. Bowie
    R. Lockette

  3. My biggest hope is that Derrick Coleman does not take aby snaps from Michael Robinson.

  4. GeorgiaHawk says:

    There’s no place like home.

    26 days at home before the Seahawks play on the road in a game that may help knock the 49ers out of playoff contention.

    Then they will have another 46 days at home after they play at Metlife for the first of two times this season if everything goes right.

  5. GeorgiaHawk says:

    My biggest hope is that Lockette get’s cut,( which really isn’t that big).

  6. raymaines says:

    Very nice story on PH, Todd. I like to read the TNT stuff in the print edition, but I’m up early and the paper isn’t here yet. Also: Thank you for the Double Coverage link. I like those stories but I’m too lazy to look at the ESPN blog now that the Sando has left.

    This from the link about the William Moore fine:

    “• San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick was fined $7,875 for grabbing the facemask of Carolina’s A.J. Klein while he was being sacked.”


    I didn’t see the game or the play in question, but really?

    A fine on a QB for something that happened while he was being sacked? It must have been pretty out of line.

    CK is a funny guy. 49er fans mostly love him, and I know he’s not the jerk we like to think he is, but something seems to be missing. Sometimes he’s awesome, like in game one this year against the Packers and other times he stinks the place up, like his two games in Seattle and last week against the Panthers. Jaws loves him and Trent Dilfer thinks his play is “remedial”.

    I’m interested in him because I wanted to draft him instead of James Carpenter. At this point, I’d rather have RW, but we could have had CK a year sooner and if we had him, SF wouldn’t. I think he’d be great if he had Marshawn Lynch, Golden Tate, and Doug Baldwin on his team. I admit though, he’s a first read kind of guy and although fast, he’s not elusive the way RW is. If he were standing behind our O-Line he might be dead by now.

  7. GeorgiaHawk says:

    It seems like things are starting to all come together just like we hoped it would.
    I don’t know about anyone else but I get goose bumps every time I think about the possibilities of this team and it’s future.

  8. confucious says:

    blocis, I couldn’t agree more. Robinson is the real deal and worth keeping around. Let’s not forget he has decent hands, and used to be pretty effective 3rd and short out of the I.

  9. SandpointHawk says:

    Todd, thaks for the Batkid link, I completely missed that story…Heartwarming…

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Interesting streak here.
    And I think teams lead by Russell Wilson haven’t lost by more then a touchdown since sometime in 2010.

  11. confucious says:

    I was having trouble writing “fullback” down in my last post when talking about MikeRob. Why the offensive backfield is listed as Quarterback then Fullback then Halfback is beyond me. They don’t line up in that order. In my simple minded point of view marshawn should be the fullback because he is the deepest in the backckfield. Then MikeRob is halfway back, and Wilson is Quarter way back. I know that there must be a reason why they are listed the way they are. Any of you football gurus care to help a guy out?

  12. Whats everyones gues on number of plays for Percy if he plays?
    I think 6-10 plays this game with 4 targets
    Looks like it’s gonna be a fun drive over tonight for the game tomorrow.

  13. SandpointHawk says:


    Confucious: Here you go, feel free to enlighten us with a recap when you’ve finished the article. Sorry it’s too early for me to wade through it…

  14. I’m thinking we may end up looking back at the 2nd half of the TB game as a turning point in the season, as much as there can be one with a record this good I suppose . .

    Looking forward to seeing our guys back. Some other good ones to watch tomorrow too, SF/NO and KC/Denver. Best time of the sports year . .

  15. confucious says:

    Jeez, thanks Sandpoint. I was hoping to take the easy way out.

  16. SandpointHawk says:

    But you can be the TNT blog history expert…

  17. This is the explanation of the fullback name as I understood it was originally:

    “Way back when, the Quarterback would be a quarter of a yard away from the line of scrimmage, the halfback would be half a yard away, and the fullback a full yard away.”

    Wikipedia lists the explanation as the below, which sounds more valid now –

    “The distinction referred to the build of the players, the fullback being a stronger runner more or less straight ahead, and the halfback faster to attack the defense’s flanks.”

    This question relates to Andrew Luck and the Colts because the Colts are one of the few teams that do employ a Fullback.

  18. confucious says:

    After quick ( and I mean quick ) review. As football transformed from rugby to the American Football we know and love, many people messed up (most likely from decisions made post concussion). Positions were once labeled according to actual schematic diagram. As rules changed, the physical requirements of the position……… The fullback was now fast and smaller the halfback a big bruiser…………..other positions such as blocking back,tailback, wingback……… Ah if you want to find out read it yourself!

  19. confucious says:

    Fine job as usual Pabs. Where were you about four posts ago?

  20. Trying to figure out if the question related to the Colts before I jumped in….

  21. montanamike2 says:

    I’m so jacked up for tomorrow! I’m sure we keep it super vanilla until after the bye.

  22. Didn’t we hear that the league said that the call against Bennett was wrong? If they did then they should not fine him for that play! Maybe my memory fails me (again).

  23. TallyHawk says:

    The league said the hit by Bennett was illegal and called correctly. They said contact with the qb cannot start below the knee.

  24. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Comment from a 49er fan over at Niner Nation.-

    “The only teams I fear are the same kinds of teams that I always fear. Teams like Giants a few years back, Baltimore last year, Seattle now, and most recently Seattle. Sadly, I’ve been right every time in my fears… the reality is, to me at least, that you can’t build a team that can dominate every other team. It’ll always be a bit of rock-paper-scissors. Unfortunately, we keep running into teams perfectly built to beat us at critical moments and now with Seattle in our division and Carolina getting scary, our coaching staff needs to figure it out but I’m not sure they can. They haven’t yet.”

  25. No wonder I forget lyrics.

  26. That’s a good point. You can’t realistically design a team that matches up perfectly against every team you will play.

    Our current Seahawks (of the past month+) do not match up well with teams with good DEs because our tackles are so terrible. That being said, the team is still so good they could win in spite of it.

    Breno is still going to greatly struggle against Long when we face the Rams again, but now with Okung, it’ll get much easier for the mighty Quinn (think Gruden “singing”) to be less of a factor, even if he’s still really good.

    This team isn’t built perfectly, but it’s built, IMO, better than every other team in the NFL if everybody is healthy (minus Rice who is out for the year).

    When was the last time we could watch our team and know it’s better than anyone and everyone it plays and we expect and think they should win instead of hoping the can win?

    The answer is never before.

  27. Dukeshire says:

    confucious – Would the center then be the 1/8th back, under your system? lol

  28. BobbyK, great post!

  29. Dukeshire says:

    montanamike2 – Super vanilla? Like the half-back flea flicker we saw last weak…? They’ll start playing better because they’re getting better players back. Not because Bevell is holding anything back. (At least in IMO.)

  30. Dukeshire says:

    “This question relates to Andrew Luck and the Colts because the Colts are one of the few teams that do employ a Fullback.”

    Holy sh*t, that the funniest thing I’ve read here in a very long time. Incredible post.

  31. SaigonSun says:

    It is totally possible that the Whiners don’t make the play-offs.

  32. Personally, I want the Whiners to make the play-offs (as a Wild Card, of course). And then I want them to win their way to the NFC Championship Game and have to play it in Seattle. I would love nothing more than to be there for that!

  33. chuck_easton says:


    Unfortunately your scenario wouldn’t work.

    Right now Seattle is the 1seed and SF is the 6th. If SF won on the road in wildcard week then they would be Seattle’s first opponent as the lowest remaining ranked team.

  34. I’m looking forward to watching Harvin onfield as well. He’s an expensive toy. I’m hoping we get more opportunities for Tate and the other WR’s deep, what with the attention Harvin should draw from the defense.

    But I’m looking forward to watching Okung and Bailey play even more. Tate, Kearse, and Baldwin have been improving weekly and are playing very well. The o-line played well the last two weeks, but that was vs poor d-lines; Minnys D-line is good, so this game will be a better barometer of how far the line has truly improved, and that will give us an idea of how they may perform vs NO and SF, not to mention in the playoffs.

    I’m hoping the line turned the corner, and hopeful if nervous regarding the integration of Harvin into our offense. Should be a fun game.

    McDaniel sounds like he will play this week, but if not, he should be good to go by the next game after the bye. That will boost our run D.

    9-1 with all the injuries and the line issues is pretty amazing.

  35. Macabrevity says:

    Bobby K – not to beat a dead horse, but what Seattle fan didn’t think we were on a march of destiny in 2005? Pittsburgh couldn’t have beaten us unless the refs (and we also have ourselves to blame) participated in helping them.

    That said, this is the best Hawk team I’ve ever seen. In fact, I’ve never seen an NFL team that could win this many games despite negligible pass-pro and suspect run D. We do so many other things so well, we’re able to more than compensate, and one thing we have with PC that we didn’t have with Holmie and Hass, we’re able to straighten things out if/when we come out flat.

  36. jawpeace says:

    Percy returning to play is laced with irony. Considering the last game he played in was Vikings against the Hawks over a year ago. And now the first team he plays against will be his former. It is going to be a little weird for him. As he has not played a game in a Hawk uniform and his brain is going to see the familiar Vikings jersey across from him. Well it affect his performance no. Will it be weird for him yes.

  37. thursday says:

    You know, I was a fan during the 2005 run, and I did not feel 100% like they were a team of destiny. There was always a crumb of doubt. I mean, I thought they were very good and certainly had a good shot, but I had a bad feeling about Pittsburgh during the entire playoffs and wanted them to get beat. Unfortunately, they didn’t and I was right.

  38. chuck – I apologize. I didn’t realize all play-off seadings in mid-November were set in stone and there was no chance we could host the Whiners in two months.

  39. Mac – Seahawk fans didn’t “know” the Hawks would beat the Steelers, at least what I remember. If they “knew” the Hawks would win, I bet there would have been more than 5-10 of us actually at Ford Field (even though it was a 12+ hour drive for me and less than a 4 or so hour flight from Seattle).

    I “hoped,” but I didn’t “know.” This year, no matter who “we” play, am more confident than I was in ’05/6. This year I much more “know” than “hope.”

  40. thursday says:

    hahah i love this from bleacher report: “Harvin is a difference maker,” one NFC defensive coordinator familiar with him told Bleacher Report. “He’s a game-wrecker. It’s a crime. How can they even have him?”

  41. This is certainly a far better team than the 2005 team. How that goes in January and February is any ones guess.

    Back then no NFC #1 seed ever lost in the divisional round (1990-2006) and teams from the wild card round rarely ever won the Super Bowl. Now both seem to happen all the time.

  42. HeinieHunter says:

    When Mike McCormack hired Chuck Knox the Seahawks became legitimate. I remember how elated I was when I returned from a business trip to Alaska and found out Chuck was the new Seahawks coach. Thanks Mike, RIP.

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