Seahawks Insider

News, notes and quotes: Harvin working with rehabbing guys; Okung, Giacomini making progress

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on Oct. 30, 2013 at 3:30 pm with 22 Comments »
October 30, 2013 3:42 pm

Pete Carroll said Percy Harvin won’t practice today and was a little sore last week. He’s day-to-day, and there was no more timeline than that.

The news on LT Russell Okung and RT Breno Giacomini was better.

Okung could practice Friday. He can practice for two weeks before coming back. Again, the earliest he can return is the Nov. 17 against the Vikings.

Carroll said Giacomini is “getting really close” and that he thinks by next week Giacomini will be “pretty active, we’ll see what that means.”

It appears there’s a chance the Seahawks are two games from both returning.

On to the quick hits:

> Carroll said Sidney Rice’s injury affects the team because “he’s a guy we’ve gone to.” Mentioned that Jermaine Kearse and Golden Tate will have to step up as receivers, though, Carroll said, they try to get the ball to Tate as often as possible (he leads the team in targets).

> Carroll on the first half: “We’d like to keep the winning going, but we’d like to improve.”

> Carroll said the offensive line missed several assignments Monday night. He also said the defensive line fit things wrong and played certain runs wrong. Mistakes they haven’t been making much this season.

> Carroll also said Rice didn’t think he was hurt this severely at first. Then, the MRI delivered the bad news.

> Carroll said he thought about calling timeout as the clock was running down, but thought the increasing pressure was in their favor. At one point, during a Rams timeout, he said he tried to wave the team over to tell them how “fired up” he was for the opportunity they were getting on the goal line. Only problem, the team was too tired to drag it to the sidelines. Only Kam Chancellor and Michael Bennett made it over, so Carroll just told them, “get back in there.”

> Carroll said, “I love the way Darrell (Bevell) calls a game.” He went on to say he’s always in on the offensive plan, listens to everything on the headsets and has direct involvement in calling three or four offensive plays per game. Carroll said, “I try never to influence him in the middle of a sequence.”

> Carroll again said he, along with Marshawn Lynch, was frustrated Lynch had just eight carries. He’s not worried about any perceived “attitude” issues with Lynch. “I don’t mind one bit he’s frustrated,” Carroll said.

> On winning four of five on the road in first half: “I think that’s a big accomplishment,” Carroll said.

> On Ricardo Lockette: “He’s always been a high-potential guy.”

> On JR Sweezy, “We’ve committed to him.” Carroll said he’s not going to be changing the starting offensive line and didn’t consider removing him after his two penalties early Monday night.

> Carroll went out of his way to praise Bruce Irvin for his game Monday night. He also told a story about receiving a report from scouts following a pre-draft workout for Irvin where the scouts said Irvin would not be able to play linebacker. “I don’t know what happened, that workout must have been terrible,” Carroll said. He’s always thought that Irvin could be a good LB and cover well, saying he has a defensive back’s athleticism in a defensive end’s body.

> Carroll said Earl Thomas played a complete football game.

> He also said, “We put a tremendous amount of emphasis on finishing” as a defense.

> Michael Robinson said he felt good in his first game back. It was the first time he had full pads on in about two months. He said the mental side of things was easy.

Leave a comment Comments → 22
  1. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “On JR Sweezy, “We’ve committed to him.” Carroll said he’s not going to be changing the starting offensive line and didn’t consider removing him after his two penalties early Monday night.”

    Get used to it folks Sweezy is here for the long run.

    And Earl Thomas is All Pro!

  2. From the looks of at least this one game – got to give kudos to PC/JS for the Irvin pick. Agree w/everyone on here on how good he looked last week. And we all know he can rush the passer.

    This on a pick that was nearly universally bashed by every expert on draft day.

    Re Marshawn — if we were coached by a Schiano or even a Coughlin type, I’d be worried. But I think Pete is as good as there is in this league at keeping his players as a cohesive bunch. That said – - I’d be very surprised if #24 didn’t get 18+ carries against TB.

  3. Very good news about Okung and Breno. Less so about Percy. Hope that soreness isn’t a significant setback.

  4. GeorgiaHawk says:

    pdway- Good post, and I agree with what you say about Carroll with regards to Lynch.

  5. It seems to me that Pete said there is no one else to put on the guard position until Okung and Breno come back. That is what it is.

  6. I’m not overly concerned about Percy. Certainly understandable to be sore after sitting out for over 3 months after surgery. Would be thrilled getting all three back by Minnesota.

  7. I’d guess MRob will look better after a week of work too – didn’t notice much from him in the way of helping on Lynch’s runs on Sunday. Expect more this coming week.

  8. jandyhenson says:

    I wish we’d held onto Stephen Williams now. Hopefully R Lockette’s camp with SF made him a more complete WR. Irvin is a beast this year. Don’t think I can blame the way our tackles were burned by Long and Quinn on missed assignments. They were just run over and around. How much did Mike Rob’s rust contribute to the Hawks blocking woes?

  9. WilliamPercival says:

    Though I felt there was little chance PH was going to fill Rice’s spot, I do feel quite optimistic that he’ll be back for falcons game to shake the rust for two games and be primed for Primetime with Saints and “soon to be flexed” 9ers game the following week.

    We’ll hopefully be fully healthy by then, especially on the O-line..

  10. The 49ers game won’t be flexed. It will be protected by FOX and will remain in its current spot.

  11. boycie99 says:

    I see Lynch didnt practice today. Given the little work he had in Mondays game I hope he isn’t sulking

  12. No other team in the league has an offensive line that is so inept, even against top defensive lines like the Rams and Carolina. Yes, its harder to perform vs top competition, but Seattles line sucks period, vs anyone, and against elite D-lines they have been so bad as to look like Keystone Cops routines–ie, slapstick for you younguns…

    Stop with the excuses. This line is truly pathetic.

    Carrol saying we’ve committed to Sweezy really bums me out. The guy regressed badly last week, and was pretty much awful before–now he’s simply utterly incompetent.

    WE may have committed to Sweezy, but I bet dollars to donuts if the line doesnt get their Shpit together this season, Carrol’s commitment to Cable may expire before next season–and hopefully we’ll send Fat Carp, McQ, and Sweezy with him…dont let the door hit your ass on your way out, losers…

    They make finding one stinking below-avg G seem like the hardest thing in the world…

  13. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- Sweezy will be your favorite player in two years, So don’t be so hard on him.

    Pick on Carpenter because he really deserves it until he gets his u no what in shape.

  14. Dukeshire says:

    boycie99 – He typically doesn’t practice on Wednesdays. Part of how they manage his health (i.e., back issues).

  15. DanielleMND says:

    We have several players who can play G. Surely they can’t be any worse than Sweezy.

  16. Dukeshire says:

    Correction, looks like they’re calling it a knee issue. Regardless, Wednesday routine still in place.

  17. sluggo42 says:

    Sweezy the favorite player in two years?
    I hope he doesn’t get RW killed before then…

  18. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?seasonType=REG&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=COMBINED_GAMES_STARTED&tabSeq=2&season=2013&role=TM&Submit=Go&archive=false&conference=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&qualified=false

    At the risk of inserting facts, stats, and potentially some reality into the daily hyperbole about the o-line, they have the second least starts of any line in the NFL. The team averages 4.4 yards a run. Seven lines have given up as many sacks or more. 6 teams have given up more QB hits. And don’t tell me it’s only because they have RW. Roethlisberger, Tannehill, Pryor, EJ Manuel, and Geno Smith are all mobile QBs.

    Don’t twist this and claim that I am saying that this is a good o-line. I’m not and have not once this year. But this BS about them being the most inept line in the NFL is just that, BS. And this is a very young line. They are missing 2 starters, have one playing hopelessly out of position, and they also had Unger out/or hurting. Cable seems like crap at evaluating o-line prospects in the draft if he truly was pushing for these guys, but he has a history of success. Keep some perspective. He’s certainly not above criticism or reevaluation of his position here after the season.

    P.S. Check out the crappy power running totals for the Hawks this year. Did the loss of Mike Rob have something to do with this? Perhaps.

  19. Hm, we have undrafted rookie Alvin Bailey and undrafted rookie taken from cleveland Caylin Hauptmann. And Lem who is backup C and they wont play him.

  20. Other articles elsewhere have indicated that continuity is extremely important for any O-line’s performance. Last season for the Seahawks seemed to confirm that. The last half of the season was a major improvement. No question that most of the positions except LT (Okung) and C (Unger) could be upgraded, but that is unlikely in midseason. Also noted elsewhere was that rookies on the O-line typically take a couple of years to completely learn their positions.
    IMO, obsessing on a particular player or coach, ala ACIB, is counter productive. PC and JS have shown no reluctance to get rid of non-functional players, to think that any player is untouchable, aside from the obvious ones, is counter to their history.

  21. THATS what I am talking about. I have been saying that the Seahawks seem reluctant to make changes where Sweezy is concerned. Why is that? Why does he get more ‘commitment’ than other players who are asked to compete for their position? They sat down Browner, why not sit down Sweezy? What hold does Sweezy have over this organization (just kidding)?

    Can anyone explain this to me?

  22. HawkFromDay1 says:

    Consistency helps an O-line.

    I truly believe this. Even if the guys are sub-standard athletes, I think it makes a big difference to have the same guys from week to week. Hopefully by keeping this thing consistent, some bugs get worked out, Okung and Breno come back, we win a game or two in the meantime and we’re a lot better off for the final 3-4 games.

    We aren’t hot right now – and that’s ok – let’s get hot in the last month when it matters.

*
We welcome comments. Please keep them civil, short and to the point. ALL CAPS, spam, obscene, profane, abusive and off topic comments will be deleted. Repeat offenders will be blocked. Thanks for taking part and abiding by these simple rules.

JavaScript is required to post comments.

Follow the comments on this post with RSS 2.0