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Seahawks 14, Rams 9: Post-game reaction

Post by Kenny Via / The News Tribune on Oct. 28, 2013 at 8:58 pm with 107 Comments »
October 28, 2013 9:08 pm

Tavon Austin, Brandon Browner

Well, it was ugly. It was a win, though, and that’s really all that matters.

With St. Louis threatening to score on the final play of the game, this one obviously could have gone either way. So, after catching your breath, how ’bout we share some thoughts from the near-disaster.

A few questions:

1. The Seahawks are 7-1. Happy? Relieved? Worried? What’s your take on the ugly win?

2. What is to be done with the offensive line? Is it all on injuries?

3. Should there be serious concern about stopping the run, or was it just a road/long-delay fluke?

4. With the weak schedule ahead, what’s your take on the second half of the season?

5. Any positives from tonight outside the ‘W’? Or was it just survive and advance?

6. What are your biggest concern(s) for the rest of the season? What are you feeling best about?

And, of course, any other random thoughts that came from that crazy game are welcome.

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  1. cseahawk says:

    OMG…………..I thought I had a heart attack. Don’t like games like this, but I DO remember losing way too many of these. Awesome to actually win one for once.

  2. sluggo42 says:

    Oline sucked, kept the defense on the field too long

    How are we 7-1? I have no idea, bench Tate’s stupid showboating ash for the first half next week

    Please trade for an oline coach

  3. bird_spit says:

    Time to shake up the oline. And hey, where was our gap guys. The DL ( did we leave them in Seattle?).

  4. Anyone remember the 2005 team winning a game just like this at SF when they stopped Ken Dorsey on the 2 point conversion to preserve the win with no time left on the clock?

  5. There is a God. That may be the worst play I’ve seen in a win in my life.

    I don’t know when Okung & BG are coming back; but even with them our O line is our #1 weakness, so I hope it’s soon. Also I hope Rice isn’t badly hurt. His loss leaves us with 3 receivers + Harvin.

    On the + side, the only QB in the NFL I would even consider in a trade for Wilson is Aaron Rogers. IMO, Wilson is going to be that good. Yes, Peyton is better TODAY, but he’s aging.

    1. Oh did we get lucky tonight. Hopefully the team gets healthy, & the majority of the remaining schedule is at home. I’m still on the bandwagon. The commentators made a good point: with all the starters at low salaries, we’ve only got a couple years to keep these guys together & win that super bowl.

    2. We’ve got problems here. If we didn’t have Cable, we’d be so screwed. I suspect it will be addressed in the off season.

    3. What happened there doesn’t make sense to me. I’m hoping we can put it down to bad prep.

    4. As long as we’re healthy……….. it’s going to be fun!

    5. Wilson’s poise is stunning for a 2nd year QB.

    6. Concerns: Injuries, the O line & if Rice & Harvin don’t get healthy quickly the receivers.

    Best about: the entire D (especially the secondary), Lynch & Wilson.

  6. rramstad says:

    The offense can’t leave the defense out there so much… it’ll lead to wear and tear and the kind of result you are referencing in terms of run defense (big guys getting tired).

    I agree with a prior poster, I have memories of losing many ugly games like this, I’m relieved to be on the winning side for a change.

    Bevell should be ashamed. He kept insisting, via play call, that RW could sit in the pocket and make quick passes against the Rams blitz. This was patently not true and impossible for RW, given his receivers and skill set, and so something should have been changed, the most obvious would be planned roll out passes, or extremely fast quick dump off passes. Instead Bevell almost got RW killed…

  7. Southendzone says:

    These next 3 games vs fairly weak opponents the Hawks need to get a lot of things figured out.

    Tonight the most shocking thing to wasn’t the defensive whooping STL put on us, but the way their run game got going against us. STL run game has been pathetic this year, I don’t know how they kept that up with such consistency.

  8. sluggo42 says:

    If we didn’t have Cable, we’d be screwed?.? Seriously? He is in charge of the crappiest line in the league, his tenure here has been one of a crappy line forever… We need to dump him, and fast

  9. 1. Happy? Check. Relieved? Check. Worried? Check. We will not beat good teams playing like that, and I put the problems squarely on the shoulders of the O-Line. That being said, what was with some of those horrible calls by the officials?

    2. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an O-line this inept. They cannot possibly be this bad. There must be some things they can do with their scheme to clean it up. My God, how many of us thought we’d be looking forward to Breno coming back?

    3. No idea what that run defense was about. Defense couldn’t stop a nobody back behind a nothing o-line with a QB who had zero threat to pass the ball. Who the hell is Zac Stacy?

    4. The next three are definitely winnable, but the two big ones are me concerned now, especially if we don’t see Okung and Breno back on the field.

    5. The game was crap. We’ll take the win and move on.

    6. Biggest concern? O-line. Is there anything else? Feeling good about the defense, even with the long drive at the end of the game. They were gassed, but held up when they needed to. They were victims of a few bad calls, too. Turnovers were huge though; Wilson held onto the ball on every one of the seven sacks.

  10. Bench Tate?

    I hope you’re joking or really hitting the sauce tonight. 5 catches, 93 yards and 2 TDs. This team loses without Tate. Give me an effing break.

    They need Okung and Breno back badly. Then then need McQ at RG. Hopefully that is decent enough to win a SB with. Line must be addressed this off-season. I’ll hold off comment on Cable’s future.

    BTW, on a positive note, ET is the best player on this defense. No doubt in my mind anymore. He was a beast tonight.

    And the o-line wasn’t crappy last year. It was somewhere in the middle if you average pass and run blocking.

  11. DisplacedSeahawkFan says:

    Zac Stacy is a damn midget. I think he ran the ball so well because our defenders couldn’t locate him until he was through the hole. I don’t see our run defense having another game like that until we play the Rams again.

    Overall I’m happy with our defense. However, I definitely think it took a step backwards tonight. Too many stupid penalties. The Rams final drive started inside their 5 yard line; yet, it came down to a goal line stand? I thought our defense was better than that.

    Our offensive line was atrocious tonight, obviously. Still, gotta give some credit to the Rams: it’s not like Quinn and Long are scrubs. Moreover, Cable left Bowie and McQuistin alone to fend for themselves against them–which was a mistake I’ll never understand.

  12. freedom_X says:

    Worried. With O-line play like that, Seattle can easily lose to any team in the league. The unsung accomplishment is that Wilson didn’t lose any fumbles. You can’t blame any QB if they lost a fumble with protection as horrid as that. One turnover and St. Louis could well have won (a FG + an FG at the end instead of having to go for the TD.)

    You’re in trouble if Sam Bradford was the difference between victory and defeat.

    The run defense is fixable – Carroll just has to tear into guys to tell them to stop chasing glory on Monday night and play their assignment.

    I don’t think the O-line is fixable until we get better players back. What would help is an offensive game plan that adjusts to the fact the line can’t protect at all. A game plan that acknowledges that St. Louis had the 30th rank run defense, yet rarely ran on 1st down and passed 3 times in a row on 1st and goal to go on the 1 yd. line.

    I hate “easy schedule” drum beating because chances are, the team will react the way they did tonight against a team with practically every card in the deck stacked against them. Seattle will play lax and opponents will play intense.

    The only hope is that the rest of the league takes Seattle much more lightly after having seen this. For perhaps the only time in team history, Seattle was an acknowledged juggernaut by almost everyone in the business. This has dispelled that illusion, hopefully to Seattle’s benefit.

    Looks like the only way to motivate Seattle is to play the disrespect card.

  13. DanielleMND says:

    1. The Seahawks are 7-1. Happy? Relieved? Worried? What’s your take on the ugly win?

    Relieved. We got lucky tonight. Take away that long TD by Tate (who needs to grow up), and this was easily a 1992-vintage offensive performance. And that’s mostly on the O-line, although our receivers didn’t help.

    2. What is to be done with the offensive line? Is it all on injuries?

    Nothing can be done this season. We’ll get Okung and Giacomini back soon, which will help, but even then, McQ and Sweezy will be our guards.

    I’ve been saying for awhile that if one thing can derail our Super Bowl hopes, it’s the O-line.

    McQ was adequate at LT a couple of years ago, but now he’s just pathetic. I’d like to see Bailey. Surely, he can’t be any worse.

    3. Should there be serious concern about stopping the run, or was it just a road/long-delay

    I think it’s just an aberration.

  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Very relieved. We had no business winning this game, but somehow we did it.
    Just look at the stats. The Rams dominated us like no other team this year.
    Pabs and Duke need to reevaluate their analysis of Fisher with regards to his coaching imo, because they are totally wrong about him as being just an average coach in the NFL.

  15. raymaines says:

    Is their such a thing as a moral loss?

  16. sluggo42 says:

    Tate will cost us when we least need a penalty for showboating, and he needs to get it figured out. He needs to act like he has caught a football before and scored a touchdown.

  17. MoSeahawk12 says:

    We no longer have to worry about Bevel and Cable being interviewed for HC jobs. These guys are lucky they get paid this week. The worst prep I’ve seen and they had an extra four days to get ready for this team. No excuses. These guys are trash!!

  18. @sluggo: I blame the lack of talent on the O line, NOT Cable. I think Cable has done an amazing job considering the dreadful talent.

  19. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Tate jersey was actually burned tonight. Dude is a smaller, slower Dez Bryant. Tool manager

  20. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Tate is a mental midget!!

  21. VNHLNFAN says:

    Moving on to next week

  22. dstoker32 says:

    Plain and simple St. Louis came in and bullied a bully. Seattle needs to get healthy on their o-line and quick. I also think Bevell needs to run some heavy sets (two TEs, and FB) to match up with a stacked box every now and again. Obviously going five wide isn’t working.

  23. So this is what the Seahawks look like coming off a long break? God help us if they come off their bye playing like this against New Orleans.

  24. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Tampa at 0-7 will give us everything they got and probably steal the game. This game showed the world what pretenders look like. Tampa 1-7 after next week.

  25. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “We no longer have to worry about Bevel and Cable being interviewed for HC jobs. These guys are lucky they get paid this week.”

    And Fisher and the Rams had nothing to do with it?

  26. MoSeahawk12 says:

    1st and goal and no Lynch? Bevel, please let Wilson get hit hard two extra times you hack!! Stupid all day!
    I remember my first OC job, I pretty much killed a franchise QB ball calling the stupidest plays ever. Me and Sweezy went out after to see who could puke on each others career more!!

  27. sluggo42 says:

    How many 3- outside we throw out there? Like every possession RW got killed… This line, scheme, and coach are horrid, and Bevell is right back into why I was jumping his crap last year….

  28. Wow. Some great fans in here. Taunting an opponent is enough to burn someone’s jersey and throw them under the bus? Yes, it was stupid and immature. He was told as much repeatedly. Get over it. I should know better than to read this blog after a game like this.

    P.S. I don’t understand why people are so obsessed who’s the best or the elite teams halfway through the season. Even more who the media thinks the elite teams are. Was Baltimore an elite team halfway through 2012? The Giants in 2011? GB in 2010? I could go on and on. It doesn’t mean spit until the end of the year. They won and are keeping pace for home field. That’s huge. Obviously the o-line and coaches inability to adjust to it is a major concern, but SB aren’t won in October.

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Cable needs to go. Rice needs to go. And Tate needs to go. I will be happy when they go because all they do now is hold us back.

    And Cable can take all his O-lineman with him except for Okunger.

  30. sluggo42 says:

    3- and outs

  31. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Fisher out coached Carrol, Bevel, you and me easily. This game had Shakespeare puking all game!

  32. 1. Relieved and worried – need to fix some things, at some point in time the OL needs to start playing better

    2. Injuries and no depth – EVERY guy on this line is Cables guy – EVERY one of them. They need to play better or he needs to go. Sweezy has “potential” but he isn’t showing improvement. and yes the injuries hurt but we heard that Moffit was expendable because they young guys were ready – they are not – if the coaches think they are , then there is a problem there

    3. SERIOUS CONCERN YES – the Defense was NOT good from the get go today.

    4. We are going to get set up well to finish the season with some confidence and play well heading into the play-offs

    5. I thought Thomas and Irvin were bright spots tonight!!!!

    6. Concern is the play of BOTH lines – Thomas is playing great – Irvin is getting better, guys are going to start to return from injury

    The defense was HORRID tonight – I don’t want to hear anything about the offense leaving them on the field to long – That is a crap excuse – The DL rotates often, and should be ready to play. EArly in the game they LET STL stay on the field when they had chances to get off themselves. THEY blew the chances. With terrible plays or STUPID penalties. THIS defense just gave STL the best offensive game of the year, by far. IF they want to be considered top rate then they need to find a way to get off the field – ON THEIR OWN!!!!!

  33. sluggo42 says:

    Nate, I’m not saying dump him, I’m saying Pete needs to figure out how to get it through the stupid meatheads skull it’s unacceptable.

  34. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    Very happy we won,doesn’t matter how.

    Dont understand why we didnt ground and pound? Rams have the worst run d in the league…Beast has ever right to be mad. Terrible job by Bevell Cable and Carroll. Should have been using max protection, badly outcoached.

    I really think Beast gave Bevell the finger last week and was punished this week by not being involved on offense.

  35. If that was Sidney Rice’s last play for the Seahawks, do they mmake a move tomorrow?

  36. Rams rallied to play the game of their season… only to lose a heartbreaker. Seahawks looked like the old Holmgren teams coming off a bye… sluggish. Lucky to escape with the win. Let’s hope Pete can use this game to correct mistakes and motivate.

    O line is just horrific, but it seems like Bevell could/should have had something on his play sheet to counter the Rams pressure.

  37. sluggo, I was referring more to Mo’s comments. He sounds worse than yanker tonight. And I’ve been a dumb bass on here many a time, so I’m not trying to act holier than thou. There’s always the sober light of a new day. Enjoy everyone. This blog has gone off the rails for the night.

  38. But… ugly win is way better than pretty loss. 7-1, 3-0 in division? Oh yeah!

  39. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Great fans have been here for year after year of hype, promise, choke and disappointment. Tate showed what he really is, I talented me first player that will not get it in time to help this team win it all. I hope he gets a big free agent deal next year and lands on a crappy team that ensures we never hear from him again. He acts like he’s never has made a big play in his career and acts like him and Dez are hangin out Saturday night.
    You can love the guy, buy I’ve seen enough. My money, my lighter fluid.

  40. Stop bitching babies! We’re money! Have you seen any perfect Superbowl winners in the last 40 years? Win on the road. Enjoy………….

  41. We didn’t get lucky, Imo. The better team made one more play than the Rams at home.

    At least Breno can run block. Can’t say the same for Bowie right now. Either way we’re doomed to have a RT that can’t pass protect.

  42. I nearly threw something at my TV. I yelled my lungs out. I cursed a lot of the players. What bothers me most is that it looks like defenses have begun to figure out what to do against RW–and that we haven’t figured out a counter to that. We came back in the second half just as bad as the first, except for one throw. We have known the Ram defensive line is good. Why didn’t we figure out a blocking scheme to minimize their effectiveness?

    Todd, please ask PC et al some HARD questions. WTF were they thinking?

  43. sluggo42 says:

    Yes
    7-1 is great
    When will we quit running into the best front 7 every week

    When will Bevell figure out what is going on and adjust real-time.

  44. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Typical Nate dishing on the passionate fans that are upset at watching a underachieving team pretty much kick our butts.

    Great fans care about who we play and how we play. Seems like all you care about Nate is finding fault with Seahawk fans.

  45. MoSeahawk12 says:

    bbmate, yanker territory is special ground and if you’ve read any of my comments over the past three years, you’ll see I’m nowhere near. I believe I’ve even come to your aid on occasion. Your opinion is all yours and that’s fine. I just saw enough tonight and posted it in my words. I’m not speaking for anyone here. It cracks me up how some can’t deal with any comments that don’t shine golden rainbows on our team. You have many valid opinions and comments and those are good for you. I’m just blowing off steam and not actually going to cause harm to anything outside my cheese drawer. Enjoy your Tuesday as it seems you already won the lottery this week.

  46. ET is our best player. Wow.

    Last I knew a defense that gives up 9 points on the road and has two picks isn’t too bad no matter what.

    Anyone know which knee Rice went to Switzerland for? I know it was the left tonight.

  47. A road win…take it. Be happy.

    We have the worst O line in the NFL, maybe in the history of the NFL.

    Has to be corrected. All picks next year: O line.

  48. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “If that was Sidney Rice’s last play for the Seahawks, do they mmake a move tomorrow?”

    Yes Pabs, If they are smart they go after Tony G.

  49. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Georgia you couldn’t be more right on this. Anyone that thinks this team “won” tonight is Stevie Wonder: blind. Outside of that 80 yard TD, our entire O came up with about 30 yards of offense. Wilson threw for less than 20 yards outside of the 80 on Tate. Winners I say!!

  50. DanielleMND says:

    “What bothers me most is that it looks like defenses have begun to figure out what to do against RW”

    Have they? It’s more like they’re taking advantage of our O-line than figuring out RW. I mean, the best way to beat any QB is to keep putting him on the ground.

  51. bulldog80 says:

    Any given Sunday u guys. We ran into a buzz saw in st. Louie and came out on top and intact. Give the other team some credit.

  52. freedom_X says:

    Seattle was the better team. The problem is, we were only one play better than a 3-5 team. If it was one bad game by the O-line, I wouldn’t be that hard on them. But they were almost as bad last week – it’s just that the game plan was a bit more realistic then (some significant running to make the Cardinals respect play-action)

    St. Louis was also more fundamentally sound, because they could get pressure with just the ends for the most part instead of needing to send 6 or 7 frequently. They could just go with 4 or 5.

  53. If we take an honest look at our offense for the last 2 years here is what we should know – I think some of this is Bevell and some is RW.

    They take awhile and a number of possesions to figure things out. We are not getting them because of 2 things. 1. The OL isn’t holding long enough for us to try things. 2. The defense isn’t getting us the ball back so the TOP is going the way of the other team. RW – is a smart and methodical guy – he needs some time to see what they are trying to do to him and he figures out his plan, how to attack it. He usually plays better in the middle/end of the game because of that I feel

    I have to be honest in saying that I think other teams are figuring out our defense and how to beat it – it isn’t new any more and teams have had a year to adapt. Our guys need to step up and start to make plays – (and coaches get them in the right position to make plays)

  54. Btw love Quinn’s call on last play.

  55. Games like this happen to every SB team every year. Think about the SB teams Nate mentioned.

    Obviously help is coming and will be here in time for the 2 most important games of the year.

    Maybe they call Lockette up from the PS.

  56. sluggo42 says:

    The O-line is gunna get the best QB we have ever had killed if they don’t figure it out

  57. sluggo42 says:

    Ya bobbyK on both, ET is awesome and Quinn’s calls were good…

  58. jamielarrydon says:

    Have faith in Tate my friends. He admits his fault here http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photos/videos/Golden-Tate-reacts-following-14-9-win-over-Rams/62683a06-bc55-419c-b0d6-8abe33b6698f and said it will never happen again. This team remains positive through it all.. we need to try and do the same. With that being said, our O-line and game plan was horrendous. I am glad Russell can take the hits but he can’t keep taking hits like that.

  59. Sherman said they loved the Cover 0 play at the end because it’s stuck in their head what happened at the end of the Atlanta game and they never want that to happen again.

  60. Outside of that 80 yard TD, our entire O came up with about 30 yards of offense.

    Wilson threw for less than 20 yards outside of the 80 on Tate. Winners I say!!

    Wilson threw for 139 so I don’t know where you came up with that Number – yards rushing was 44 -

  61. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Well at least I’m not the only one unhappy. Sure glad for the win that puts us at 7-1, but there’s not one here that watched this game and thought, sure we can go to SF and beat them, or The Saints, or the Rams. Hell, this team will struggle with the Bucs and Falcons. This game was a blueprint disaster for every team to follow. I can be mad and disappointed as a fan. Harsh comments?? Sure why not. This team flopped on a national stage. I don’t really worry about some of the sensitive posters here. Nothing personal, so don’t make it.

  62. seahawksteven777 says:

    Lynch got 8 carries… Wow, way to help Wilson with the constant pressure.

  63. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Total yards for the game 135. Tate TD 80 yards. Sorry my math was slightly off. 55 yards of offense from the passing department. Passing including of that play…91 yards.
    Passing 91
    Comp – Att
    10-18
    Rushing ended at 44 yards

  64. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Wilson threw for 139 including the 80 yard TD by Tate. Crap game no matter how you spin it. Not blaming Wilson as he is 90% why we were able to steal one. Love the guy, but O-line abysmal in every category.

  65. Tate has been our best receiver this year. I wasn’t a fan of his prior to this year; at this point I consider his play to be a pleasant surprise.

  66. Lets not forget the drop 3rd down passes to Tate in the first have and Kearse in the 4th – both of those could have been big for us.

  67. Lol. We lost these games last year. 7-1. Stop whining. Enjoy the season!!!!

  68. rramstad says:

    Yeah, this was a difficult game to watch.

    The officiating really rattled the pace of the game, I thought. I don’t really have a strong opinion as to how good or bad it was, but there were a lot of flags…

    I had some very serious problems with the play calling. Rams defense came out and did something we didn’t expect, and we never ever adjusted to it. Ever. I don’t understand.

  69. montanamike2 says:

    I’m in shock, i don’t know what to think i’m happy for the win but fearful of our o-line.

  70. MoSeahawk12 says:

    For the record, you guys and gals on this blog are great fans and once in awhile, some of us get pretty hot and post less than popular comments during the season. I’ve been a fan of this team since I was twelve and in my my mid forties now. I’m as die hard as you can get and just cause I might say some less than glowing comments doesn’t mean I’m any less of a fan. Just as any of you are less of a fan if you post a differing opinion of the week. Post what you want and support your team. We have so much to be proud of. Seven and one is new territory for Seahawks fans. I totally understand and see what a big deal it is. Only one team in the entire NFL is better and that is the eight and zero Chiefs. This game will fade away and like our guys, I’m already looking at next week. I want to witness eight and one as a fan.

  71. thursday says:

    1. Happy, relieved, oddly optimistic? Because if we’re 7-1 with this awful o-line play and games with a ton of mistakes, we can only get better with people returning, right??

    2. Idek. I’d like to blame it on injuries, but good grief they were awful tonight. Do two guys make that big of a difference? Maybe they do.

    3. I think the Texans also gashed us in this first half iirc, but yeah, it was worrisome. I hope it’s a fluke.

    4. I think we get guys back and tear ish up. (I hope. :[)

    5. Earl Thomas is amazing.

    6. O-line for sure. But at the same time, Harvin, Okung and Breno returning is likely to make a big difference.

  72. Kenny Via says:

    Earl Thomas: “I never get tired, but today, this was the most physical game I’ve ever played in. I’m mentally drained and physically drained.”

    More in Todd’s game story: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/10/28/2861066/seahawks-hold-off-rams-for-ugly.html

  73. Thanks Kenny – lets hope we don’t have a hang over like other teams have been having against us!!!

  74. The 49ers fans are very angry over the outcome of this game.

  75. MoSeahawk12 says:

    The Seahawks won despite gaining just 135 yards of total offense, 80 of it on Wilson’s second TD pass to Tate, the third-fewest yards in a victory in franchise history. Wake up call I hope. O-line is the only thing keeping this team from going al the way.

  76. I’ll bet PC is gong to tear the team a new one on Wednesday!

  77. MoSeahawk12 says:

    http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2022144044_othersseahawks29xml.html

    As a player, this used to drive me crazy. Smash and win, air and lose. Been on both sides.

  78. jaybrank says:

    The O game plan wasn’t smart tonight. Draw, trap screen, should have been on the menu along with roll-outs to beat the Ram blitz. I also agree with the heavy 3 TE run sets. Giving back-up OTs no help against one of the best pair of DEs is also not smart. Learn from this now because the NFL is a copycat league.

  79. Kenny Via says:

    More from St. Louis. Todd’s notebook, leading with Golden Tate getting a talking to about taunting: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2013/10/28/2861141/seahawks-notebook-golden-tate.html

    “That won’t happen again,” he said. “My emotions got to me.

  80. Wilson knows the pressure is coming every play. But he has to bend over and take his eyes off the defense to snag the ridiculously low snaps Unger keeps tossing in shotgun. By the time RW looks up he’s in the line of fire. Unger has consistenly snapped low all season and it need to be fixed NOW. As for the O line, they are truly offensive McQuistan is WAY to slow to handle speed rushers. Carpenter can only drive forward, Unger is one-armed, Sweezy costs us several big plays every game with STUPID penalties, and Bowie has poor form that cost him every play. Cable has done a terrible job this year. Mcqiustan isn’t a tackle, Carpenter s/b a backup, Unger needs to sit until he’s healed, Sweezy needs to go, and Bowie should be helped every play. until he learns how to play.

    Major O-line overhaul and we will be plowing through the season. If only it was that easy.

  81. Screensmoke says:

    I’m with vanhalenfan- movin on to next week but the one thing that I can’t let go is marshawn having 8carries- that is inexcusable and unbelievable -that is piss poor coaching- and bevell needs to be accountable for that – that is beyond a head scratcher – I am totally blown away I havnt checked to see if this is accurate- it is almost unbelievable- they stacked the box YES- they stack the box every week – give him the dam ball !

  82. grizindabox24 says:

    Step away from the ledge…..

  83. Screensmoke says:

    I will also say I watched that last play over and over again – our defense was solid – Everyman was licked down- it was a beautiful thing

  84. doubledink says:

    Lynch not getting fed when you lead for most of the game is foolish.

  85. Screensmoke says:

    Not licked but locked-bevell was the only licker tonight- all the old feelings I’ve had about bevells competence is all resurfaced- such a frickin head scratcher?

  86. Screensmoke says:

    Grizandabox- why don’t u jump b–ch

  87. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Carroll’s comments already posted on another thread but it was good to see him ticked off and frustrated as many of us were. He basically said lucky to come out with a win, Oline played awful and Marshawn only getting eight carries is frustratingly bad. “He can’t help us with that few of carries.” Carroll, kick Bevel in his man parts and strongly instruct him to do a better job. Then go have a nice lunch time chat with Cable and ask him who he won’t be drafting next year as he’s not great at that role. Sweezy has to go back to being a project. This guy is not NFL ready. Not that we have lots of better options…I know, damn it.

  88. Cable is not the problem, he’s a hell of a coach.

    Darrel Bevell is a big problem, tonight and most games this year he has been flat out, out coached.
    He is completely wasting one of the best backfields in the NFL. We did show signs of being able to run the ball tonight, but his consistantly poor play calling always had us in a hole. Many of our sacks and pressures are a flat out product a bad play calling.
    2 sacks came from Wilsons bad mechanics as he failed step up in the pocket.
    Blaming everything on the”O” line is a cop out.

    And bench Tate? Are you guys crazy……He’s the only play maker we have at receiver, that guy is a gamer.

  89. HeinieHunter says:

    I agree it wasn’t pretty but let’s not get carried away. We did score two touch downs and The Rams couldn’t get even one – Just three field goals. We had two picks and didn’t turn the ball over once.
    This was a game that we clearly did not get up for and the Rams did. It was sloppy from the start with penalties, missed assignments, guys coming unblocked etc.
    Now everyone is quick to jump in and say Seattle is not really that good (especially all the national “Experts”). I say “Fine”, talk about how good everyone else is and ignore Seattle.
    Because I think Cable will get the OL more in tune and we will get our two starters back. Percy Harvin will give the offense a lift and a game at home will energize everyone.
    We played poorly at an away game where we were a huge favorite. That does not make us “The Titanic”. I have faith in our coaches, front office, and players. We are loaded with a lot of young talent but they are young and will make mistakes. But they will learn from them.
    If this is as bad as it gets we’ll be lucky.

  90. NYHawkFan says:

    I’ll take it, but I truly can’t remember the last time I felt so unsatisfied after a win. We didn’t deserve to win. We were manhandled the entire evening, starting, of course with the Offensive line, which actually seems to be regressing. Lynch had no holes opened for him to run and Wilson ran for his life. Embarrassing.

    Secondly, I thought Tate was starting to mature, but he proved otherwise. Just plain stupid, his waving at opposing players as he ran for a TD following a very nice catch. Did you notice that the Rams were even more fired up after that stupid showboat move? Disrespectful, and did I mention stupid, going into someone else’s house and pulling that kind of stunt. Especially when you consider that he will be fighting for playing time after Harvin returns, then he does something

    Truly, this game proves that no game can be counted as a win before your cleats hit the turf. I wouldn’t be surprised that we actually fall in the power rankings after this win.

    Can’t wait to see how the Hawks rebound. We’re finally playing a few home games. Go Hawks,

  91. NYHawkFan says:

    I’ll take it, but I truly can’t remember the last time I felt so unsatisfied after a win. We didn’t deserve to win. We were manhandled the entire evening, starting, of course with the Offensive line, which actually seems to be regressing. Lynch had no holes opened for him to run and Wilson ran for his life. Embarrassing.

    Secondly, I thought Tate was starting to mature, but he proved otherwise. Just plain stupid, his waving at opposing players as he ran for a TD following a very nice catch. Did you notice that the Rams were even more fired up after that stupid showboat move? Disrespectful, and did I mention stupid, going into someone else’s house and pulling that kind of stunt. Especially when you consider that he will be fighting for playing time after Harvin returns, then he does something

    Truly, this game proves that no game can be counted as a win before your cleats hit the turf. I wouldn’t be surprised that we actually fall in the power rankings after this win.

    Can’t wait to see how the Hawks rebound. We’re finally playing a few home games. Go Hawks!

  92. mquinn73 says:

    1. Lucky, lucky, lucky. If Bradford wasn’t injured, there’s no doubt that the Rams would have won.

    2. Poor talent + poor coaching = Russell Wilson’s odds of making it through a full season are lengthening all the time. Surely there are guys on the street that have been discarded by other teams that can come in and start for us?

    3. Conceding 200yds on the ground to the Rams is very very worrying. I’m concerned about our balance on the DL and our ability to plug the interior gaps. Mebane takes too many plays off for my liking. And what exactly does Red Bryant do? Honestly, Jesse Williams probably starts if he’s healthy.

    4. Right now, after last night’s game, I don’t feel confident about us beating anyone unless there’s a significant improvement in individual and collective performance – especially on offense. The defnse is bending but not breaking at this point but I’m not sure how long we can expect that to last.

    5. Positives – no turnovers and Wilson got out alive.

    6. Biggest concerns – (a) offensive line, (b) lack of discipline. Discipline problems have been a feature of Pete Carroll’s teams going way back. He simply isn’t tough enough on that fundamental issue. Last night it was Tate, earlier in the season it was Rice (spinning the ball in front of a defender every time he made a catch), even Earl Thomas and Kam play it up. Stay classy, Seattle….

  93. 1. The Seahawks are 7-1. Happy? Relieved? Worried? What’s your take on the ugly win?

    Winning on the road is hard. The Hawks played like crap, but they won. This is the same team that didn’t lose to the 49ers last year.

    2. What is to be done with the offensive line? Is it all on injuries?

    Seems like we didn’t make the adjustments we needed. Also, a catch here or there and we’d have sustained a few drives. That may have changed the flow of the game.

    Also, how many screens or draws did we run?

    3. Should there be serious concern about stopping the run, or was it just a road/long-delay fluke?

    Some games are like that.

    4. With the weak schedule ahead, what’s your take on the second half of the season?

    Our offense just hasn’t been in sync all season. Would be nice to get going soon. We got into the playoffs last year as a hot team. If we play like we’ve been playing I don’t expect much in the playoffs.

    5. Any positives from tonight outside the ‘W’? Or was it just survive and advance?

    We won. No one cares about close games the next week.

    6. What are your biggest concern(s) for the rest of the season? What are you feeling best about?

    Getting in sync as an offense and then be consistent.

    And, of course, any other random thoughts that came from that crazy game are welcome.

    Seems like we get too tricky. Just like last week on that 4 and 1, we have one of the best backs in the league and we don’t use him on the goal line. What’s up with that?

  94. This team will be lucky to win a playoff with where they are at right now.

    The offensive scheme was awful, it was embarrassing.

    Really need to get healthy on OL, and get Harvin.

  95. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    what other team goes 7-1 with both starting tackles out? none i can think of.
    really think everyone needs to keep the game in perspective. i saw a lot of open wide receivers does no good if wilson is on his back.

  96. NYHawkFan says:

    What I saw was the entire defensive line running into our backfield like no one touched them. We used to call that a “look out” block. The entire offensive line (great description in this case… offensive to watch) would turn around and yell, “Look out!” to the QB.

  97. Zero points for style (except the final goal line stand) but still a W.

  98. Southendzone says:

    MoSeahawk, keep ranting, i’m right there with you, a lot of this game was unacceptable and to just put on a happy face and say “A win is a win” is just as bad as not making corrections to keep Wilson from getting blasted every time he drops back to pass.

    For all we know, Bevell might think the way he called the game last night was perfect and he just got unlucky or something. He certainly didn’t seem to be making any effort to change things.

    Someone else above said for Todd to ask hard questions of the coach this week. I second that! Something like “How bad would your O-Line have to be for you to make a change, trade, or sign a player to help?”

  99. seahawkfan97 says:

    Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t there no sacks in the second half on Wilson? Adjustments maybe? And after listening to Janoris Jenkins all game flapping his trap like Sherm, who can back it up, the waving goodbye was kinda funny!!! And doing nothing on offense all night long, although I strongly disagree with Tates antics. He is a baller though and maybe will grow up after this one. We do need him and he wont be the one losing playing time when harvin comes back. The play calling was, once again suspect. Lynch had some good runs and as I recall, one good run was brought back due to holding. Was Bevell punishing Lynch for the salute? If so, I hope Carroll rips him a new one because this is not the first time bevell has choked as many of you have said.
    7-1 awesome! Go hawks!

  100. ChrisHolmes says:

    “Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t there no sacks in the second half on Wilson? Adjustments maybe?”

    I think it was because we didn’t have the ball @seahawkfan97. Rams held it for almost 40 minutes. Wilson was sitting on the sideline.

  101. I think the entire offense should join Lynch in flipping off Bevell.

  102. “How bad would your O-Line have to be for you to make a change, trade, or sign a player to help?”

    Or make a change at the coaching position as these are all guys that he has chosen?

  103. I’m not so sure this team can’t find a way to lose to the Bucs at home, unless they can come up with a solution to their pass-pro AND run-blkg problems. If SEA can find a way to give RW a little time, and once RW starts gashing teams with deep passes to WRs like Tate, Kearse, Baldwin and Rice, (who have to catch and hang onto the ball – even in traffic) opponents will have to loosen up their 8-9 in the box run-D.

    Maybe if PH could make a difference to what defences must do by making plays that go for good gains off quick slants, curls and outs, that’ll pull opponents front-7 players off the field in favor of nickle backs. Then ML can go back to making his usual yardage with MikeRob taking out MLBs.(?)

  104. champ2000 says:

    The lack of intensity and concentration was glaring on the part of the offense. Dropped passes, silly penalties, showboating, less than full effort. Injuries to the line were a factor, but that does not excuse these things. The defense saved your butt, offense. Fix it, or you miss any Superbowl opportunity. C’mon, this is a once in a lifetime year.

  105. seahawkfan97 says:

    Chris, LOL…burst my bubble..I was hoping for something positive..you are so unfortunately correct. 7-1 go hawks

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