Seahawks Insider

Leave a comment Comments → 26
  1. Bobby Wagner is a key player and one of the better MLBs in the NFL. With that being said, I really don’t see much of a drop-off with Wright in the middle and Smith on the outside. We’ve got four really good LBs.

  2. montanamike2 says:

    Sunday is hard enough to wait for, but Monday night? All these bye weeks are killing me!

  3. montanamike2 says:

    Smith is a good problem to have at a spot of concern previously.

  4. Bobbyk–Dude, I love your passion; but saying you don’t see a drop off in quality with Wright at MLB vs Wagner is outrageous; it’s so false as to be blind homerism for a player.

    Look, we get that you love wright; but the guy is a liability in coverage–he’s slow! While he’s a very smart, hard hitting player, Wagner is a very fine player with far more range. He’s so much faster!

    Did you not notice hoe gassed Wright was in the fourth quarter last week? He got beaten in coverage a number of times. While he’s solid, he isn’t a standout player–no splash plays.

    Honestly, the way Irvin and especially Smith are playing, Wright could be benched when Wags returns. Smith is really playing well, and while not the run stuffer Wright is, he’s waaay better in coverage and blitzing.

    I can’t wait to get Wags back.

  5. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Wright was targeted 8 times last game and gave up 8 completions. Clearly his worst game in some time.
    Nice to see Smith stepping up though.

  6. STTBM – I like Wright, but I’m not a homer for him. As far as I’m concerned, I want to keep ET/Sherman together more than I want to resign any of the LBs if they want big deals. I think that having Smith on the outside gives the team more speed and athleticism over having Wright out there and Wright being in the middle gives the team more length/wingspan in the passing game than Wagner. For the record, Wagner isn’t exactly a stud in the passing game either. Having Wagner healthy obviously gives the team more depth, which is huge, but I don’t see much of a drop-off with Wright in the middle in comparison to Wagner. That’s just me.

  7. Something I was (but couldn’t) post for someone else:

    When the Seattle Seahawks traded three draft picks, including their first-round choice this past April to the Minnesota Vikings for Percy Harvin, many people expected big things from him in a Seahawks uniform.

    Unfortunately for the team, Harvin hasn’t suited up for a game yet this season and fans have not seen a dime of production from the receiver who signed a six-year, $67 million contract, including $25 million in guaranteed money.

    However, Harvin has finally begun practicing after having hip surgery early in training camp and it looks as if he will be making plays for the Seahawks in the coming weeks. This brings up an interesting question as to when he could or should return make his debut.

    Many fans seem to favor the idea that they should not rush him back even when he is ready. They argue that the team is 6-1 without him and he should be saved from any hits until he is more than ready later in the season.

    While I understand this argument, I do not agree with it.

    Harvin is a football player and people with the ball get hit in the NFL. That’s the way it is. If you acquire a player that you are scared will get hurt each time he takes a hit then you probably shouldn’t have traded for him in the first place if you do, in fact, think he’s prone to injury more than anyone else.

    One thing people fail to realize is that Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson and Harvin have absolutely no real game experience together. Expecting Harvin to jump onto the field at the end of December is foolish thinking because the games into January become do or die and there’s no time to go through the training camp growing pains of working through things such as quarterback and receiver timing. This needs to happen in real games for them to grow together. It cannot all be simulated in practice with each of them wearing a red jersey.

    As soon as Harvin is healthy enough to play, he should be strapping it up each Sunday with his new teammates.

    Football is a violent game and people get hurt every week. If you’re healthy enough to play, no matter who you are, you should be out there trying to help your team compete each week. Harvin is no exception.

  8. montanamike2 says:

    I’d like to see Harvin eased into action each week because his presence changes the other teams approach and he could build rapport with the team. Just a few series at first and more weekly until he’s a full go.

  9. raymaines says:

    The caution is in deference to his hip, not fear that he’s otherwise fragile. We want his hip to be 100% healed and then he can get slapped around like everybody else.

  10. raymaines says:

    And part of being healed is that the joint has to be flexible and strong.

  11. “When he’s ready.” I never said when he’s not fully ready.

  12. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    I agree with you my friend. If Percy is 100% let him play. No need to baby him. He needs game experience. Great post bobby

  13. SeventiesHawksFan says:


    Your opinion seems to not take into account that being ready to play is not the same as being healthy enough to play.

    There is unquestionably a plan and timetable to have PH available and full go when this team will really need him.

    A Monday night game midway through the season against the Rams minus Sam Bradford is not that game though.

    And the alternative is not that they will keep him on ice until December.

    Percy will probably need only three to five games to be fully integrated and ready for the playoffs. The clock is not truly ticking just yet, and we are rather lucky that he is now very close. And there is still plenty of time.

    For now caution is the much more prudent choice if the aim is have him available to beat the Saints and 49ers to clinch home field for the playoffs and to ultimately get to and win the Super Bowl.

  14. rramstad says:

    Agree with PP. I think you want him on the field soon, but you want to get him full go in practice first, and then give him a few reps in a game, and then slowly increase the game workload.

    You don’t want him taking a few snaps in a game if he hasn’t been full go in practice.

  15. bsinnitt says:

    I’m just as anxious to see Harvin as anyone but the goal is to win the Super Bowl. If holding him out a week or two sets him up better for the haul then by all means sit him. 7 or 8 weeks of games & practice is still plenty of time for him to get in sync. These guys are pros and half of Russel’s passes are back yard football improv anyway not precise timing routes.

  16. doubledink says:

    A little fuel to the fire.


  17. LocalGutterGuy says:

    Regarding Harvin, when his NY docs & SEA docs clear him and percey agrees he will be a full go. Granted he may get a few less plays for a game or two but it is all in. The Ferrari does not stay in the garage or slow lane.

  18. MoSeahawk12 says:

    BobbyK, this team is 6-1 without Harvin. They were 11-5 plus another win on the road in the playoffs without him last year and really, they easily could have been two and 0 on the road lest not the D choke in the game against the Falcons. Harvin has a big contract, but if we have put all our years as fans in the Harvin basket, how much does this season actually matter? This team will win it all or come up short regardless of Harvin. Period. He’s a nice toy. A big distraction, but come on, this team has earned the praise and consideration regardless if Harvin catches one ball or a two dozen. I agree with you that the team can’t be scared to get the new paint dinged. They brought Harvin in for a multiple year run. This team is not this year or bust. Harvin should get as many real game situations as possible. However, if this team is looking at Harvin as the cherry on top to finally get to the big dance and win it, they are going to be stuck with tofu. I feel confident that coach Carroll and GM John have planned for this alternative. Personally, I think it would be ten times more rewarding if this team went the distance with who they brought to the dance.(you know, they dance that started out 6-1.)
    Wilson can do enough with what he has and once we actually see Harvin blow by defenses and score, I’ll believe he makes a difference. Sorry for the crazy post. I just watched three episodes of Sons of Anarchy.
    All I know is that 7-1 will be mind blowing.

  19. Southendzone says:

    Well said mo-hawk12.

    Harvin will help but he’s not the be-all end-all. Let him ease into these games. He didn’t get 4 pre-season games like everyone else to get into game shape. Let him spend some time getting into synch with RW.

    Not only do I not want to see him get injured from coming back early, I don’t want him to be running the wrong route & dropping balls because he isn’t 100% into gear with the offense yet.

  20. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I’m just as excited as most here to see Harvin play, And I think there is plenty of time to ease him in regardless if he’s physically healthy or ready to play right now.

    My biggest concern is not when Harvin plays but how the chemistry of offense will be when he does play. Especially in the playoffs.

    I do hope though that they plan on using him in the return game. That could give us a big boost for the special teams.

  21. sluggo42 says:

    I think Pete and the medical staff, as well as Percy’s doctor can make the best decision as to when he is healthy enough to return. No use wringing our hands, they have top shelf experts to make that decision, we can only guess. I think Easton has the best guess going.
    I have had numerous sports injuries/ surgeries as a youngster, and they take time. Even after your healed. However, the procedures used now, compared to 20-30 years ago are probably a bit better…

  22. I didn’t think I needed to spell it out that when he’s healthy – he should play.

  23. “As soon as Harvin is healthy enough to play…”

  24. Even in HS football, if a WR had no rapport with the qb, the way to fix it was weeks of practice, not throwing them into the fire of a real game full-go, all game.

    That’s even more true in the NFL, where offenses are so complex and timing and reads are so critical. You don’t try to go from no chemistry to good chemistry in real games, unless you have no other warm bodies. Rather, you practice practice PRACTICE, and when coaches see that rapport/timing develop where it needs to be, Then, and ONLY then, do they see the field.

    It has nothing whatsoever to do with worry over Harvin getting hurt, rather the fact that even an athlete as special as Harvin is worse than worthless to an NFL offense–especially when we have Tate, Rice, Baldwin, and Kearse who all deserve more touches.

  25. An athlete as special as Harvin is worthless until they gain rapport with the qb I meant to say.

    Georgia–yes, my point exactly; Wright is terrible in pass coverage, and while not great do far this year, Wags is better and due to his speed has a much higher ceiling.

  26. If Harvin and Wilson aren’t clicking in practice, he has no business onfield. Especially considering how rarely we throw the ball making each passing play so much more critical–our offense can’t afford to risk dropping our completion percentage by having Harvin in if he’s not ready to smoothly transition.

We welcome comments. Please keep them civil, short and to the point. ALL CAPS, spam, obscene, profane, abusive and off topic comments will be deleted. Repeat offenders will be blocked. Thanks for taking part and abiding by these simple rules.

JavaScript is required to post comments.

Follow the comments on this post with RSS 2.0