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Morning links: Seahawks’ offensive line has few answers

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on Oct. 1, 2013 at 6:30 am with 89 Comments »
October 1, 2013 1:45 am

Good morning.

> Today in the TNT I wrote about the offensive line. Not a lot of options for the Seahawks, at the moment.

> Some guy named Mike Sando takes a look at the path to perfection. He analyzes which team could end up 16-0. The locals are mentioned prominently.

> ESPN rolls out its QB report. You have to scroll down a bit to get to Russell Wilson. When you do, a couple interesting facts there.

> ESPN’s Terry Blount looks back at week 4 for the Seahawks.

> Yahoo’s power rankings drop the Seahawks out of the top spot.

> Peter King at the MMQB. There is some Seahawks talk, and a boatload of knowledge from around the league.

> Mike Silver says Texans’ quarterback Matt Schaub is holding back a team that would otherwise be a contender. The Seahawks also top Silver’s rankings.

> The Saints are still undefeated, one of five undefeated teams remaining in the league.

> ESPN is reporting Jake Locker will miss 4-8 weeks.

Leave a comment Comments → 89
  1. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    Yes I understand the theory that when guys play together the more they Gel, but we have to make a change. Our Line has been god awful on passing downs. We are very VERY lucky that Russell is quick and not injured. I actually thought the new guys ( Lem and Bowie) played ok and weren’t the problem, the problem was with the other 3 guys. Sweezy, Carp and McQ hardly put up any challenge on passing downs, they were basically swinging gates.
    I think would move McQ to RG and play Bailey at LT, put Sweezy on the bench. I dont understand the love affair with Sweezy. They made a mistake because Moffit was much better I believe. Maybe Sweezy would make a better tackle because he seems to get overpowered by larger interior guys on passing downs. Perhaps he could handle smaller DE’s easier.

  2. Macabrevity says:

    This is easily the best Hawk’s team I’ve ever witnessed, winning on the road against a playoff club with an offensive line made up of Burger King employees.

    I can’t recall the name of the formation, but I’m sure some of you have seen that trick play where there’s only a center snapping the ball, then the entire offensive line is offset towards the sideline? Legal in the NFL? I don’t know, but I think it wouldn’t make much difference to RW. The Houston D-line pretty much had open access to him every passing play.

  3. CDHawkFan says:

    Off topic, I think J Ryan has been great this year. It was due to him/special teams, and a few penalties that forced Houston to have to go 70 – 80 yards on the D.

    While the D seemed to give up a few (too many) first downs, not forcing many 3 and outs, they seemed to stop or get a turnover before getting into at least field goal range.

    My point is, field possession was huge last week when giving up nearly 500 yards and only allowing 20 points. And yes, I just talked about a punter.

  4. yankinta says:

    I taped/Tivo’ed NFL Primetime, NFL Insider and NFL Live yesterday just so hear if the Talking Heads on ESPN dissing our win, yesterday..,, instead what I heard was Most if not All of those talking heads on ESPN Drooling over RW,, and how stats don’t tell the whole story and how he was able to lead his team to win in a difficult situation/condition.

    I even heard someone said “The entired team feeds off of his composure. The Other 31 Starting QB’s in the league would not have been able to do what he did”…. I was PLEASANTLY Surprised….mms…, :)

  5. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Schaubs QBR-52.9

    Wilsons QBR-20.6

    I just don’t understand how some say the total QBR system is the best way to evaluate a QBs performance in a game.

    Does it take into consideration the quality of the opponent?
    Or that a QB had three starting O-lineman out?
    Or that a qb makes a great 98 yard drive in the 4th qtr despite penalties.
    Or that a QB chokes with the game on the line by throwing a six pick?

    Anyone watching that game knows who the MVP QB was, whether they know much about football or not.

    From Wikipedia-

    “Further controversy erupted when the Total QBR system gave the Denver Broncos’ Tim Tebow a higher rating than the Green Bay Packers’ Aaron Rodgers in their respective Week 5 contests in 2011. Noting that Rodgers completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns in a win over the Atlanta Falcons, while Tebow completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown, and six rushes for 38 yards and a touchdown, in a loss to the San Diego Chargers, Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com wrote that he’ll “continue to ignore ESPN’s Total QBR stat.”[10] Rodgers himself was surprised: “I saw the [QBR stats] and chuckled to myself. I played a full game, [Tebow] played the half. He completed four passes, I completed 26. I think it incorporates QB runs as well … The weighting of it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.”[11] ESPN’s Stats and Information Group explained that Tebow’s higher rating was the result of him staging a partial comeback, taking no sacks, and having positive rushing yards and a rushing touchdown, among other factors.[12][13] However, Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports wrote that the QBR system lacks a minimum performance frequency floor that players must meet before they can be rated, and thus it essentially penalizes Rodgers because he played throughout the entire game, while rewarding Tebow because he came off the bench in the second half in an attempt to stage a comeback”

  6. yankinta says:

    GeorgiaHawk,, lol, loved the Wikipedia quote…. it’s my first time learning that… mms :)

  7. pabuwal says:

    QBR doesn’t take into account running which is why Wilson’s overall performance is better than the passing performance. The passing performance wasn’t good and it wasn’t just the OL.

    I’m concerned about the passing game but not for the reason everyone else is. When he does have time to throw from the pocket, it’s like Wilson is staring into the abyss and sees nothing out there. I’m going to go with the theory that Tate and Rice get owned in man to man coverage against average and better CBs and he has no one to throw to because the TE is in blocking.

    I’ll go with this theory until one of you guys who pay for the All 22 package get in there and can tell me differently.

  8. yankinta says:

    pabuwal,, No, QBR Does account the running of the QB. That’s the most known difference between QBR and QB ratings. :)

  9. FairbanksDoug says:

    Sweet article Yankinta,thank you

  10. Hawks:

    4th rushing yards
    6th in points scored

    3rd takeaway-giveaway

    2nd points allowed
    5th yards allowed

  11. FairbanksDoug says:

    God bless that brewery and thank God he has blessed Seahawks!!

  12. QBR takes into account running and puts more emphasis on when plays happen. I don’t think it’s nearly as good as QB rating, even with QB rating not incorporating running.

  13. yankinta says:

    FairbanksDoug,, Thank God, indeed. God’s blessed RW with the ability to lead and he’s blessed us with a great team to cheer for as well. :)

  14. Mikefromjersey–I agree. Continuity alone won’t cure what ails this line. I don’t believe any other team would continue starting Sweezy. Unfortunately, Bailey doesn’t understand the LT responsibilities well enough for Cable to trust him to replace McQ.

    I’d like to see Bailey-Carp-Lem-McQ-Bowie from here on out; and if Unger can hack it, put Lem T RG with Carp at LG or at LG with McQ at RG.

  15. FairbanksDoug says:

    Last year and much of this year already Coach Cable has been hailed as walking on water in respect to offensive lineman. Well for me it hasn’t changed much . Last year early on things were not looking good for offensive line and wasn’t very long before Cable was doing a dance on water again. I don’t see any reason why it won’t be the same this year. Sure there is the distinct possibility this Sunday may be to early for them to pull it together, I believe with all things considered the Hawks will pull it out and win in spite of the weaknesses of the offensive line. I think that pass rush from the Texans was a bit more intense then we will see from the Colts. Well enough on that I am due for a beer.

  16. FairbanksDoug says:

    I happen to work nights half the time so half the time when 07:30 am rolls around its beer thirty.

  17. FairbanksDoug says:

    I happen to work nights half the time so half the time when 07:30 am rolls around its beer thirty. Think this TNT comment system is telling me I had to much

  18. yankita: Thanks for the link. Great stuff

  19. jawpeace says:

    I hope our fans never turn on Russell Wilson they way they have on Matt Shaub. Burning his uniform, profanity and hate on his twitter account so much that he closed it.
    I have read so many posts and articles that ridicule him for his pick six int throw. Saying what a terrible, awful throw it was. No I seriously disagree. I have seen terrible throws, way over the head of a wide open WR that was intercepted, horrible throws that went straight to the defender.
    Shaub throw was not terrible. Richard SHerman made an awesome play. With Bam Bam blissing, Matt threw to the hot TE who was open for a second. Until Sherman closed the gap and fought for the ball. The ball was not over thrown but on target. To what was the open man on a hot read. Sherman was spectacular. Shaub could not have expected him there, covering a TE.
    Anyways I think that it is terrible the way so called fans have treated Matt S. I hope our fans never turn like that on RW.

  20. yankinta says:

    jawpeace,, I hope that as well but realistically all fan bases have ignorant idiots (As Richard Sherman’d say) and we have some in our Fan Base too. We just have to ignore the noise since we know better. RW is the Real Deal.

  21. chuck_easton says:

    jawpeace,

    Not only that, but that particular play is designed for Shaub to throw to the TE. He doesn’t have the ability to audible the play at the line as his coach doesn’t allow it. Also his only other option would have been to throw the ball way out of bounds. Likely the better move, but Shaub said that the play is designed for the CB to take the bait and flow to the motion of the entire offense going left.

    Sherman said he saw the formation and knew exactly what was coming. He didn’t even bite on the motion and stayed with the receiver he knew was going to get the ball.

    Not Shaub’s fault at all. The fault lies in the coaching staff calling that particular play and not giving their QB the power to change it at the line.

  22. tchristensen says:

    In his post game press conference, Gary Kubial said Russell Wilson is “magical;. A great description.

  23. Dukeshire says:

    Admittedly, I’m not the biggest stat guy in the world, but I’m almost positive QBR takes scrambling into account.

  24. rramstad says:

    “Passing efficiency” or quarterback rating as we traditionally think of it, does not take into account rushing by the QB.

    http://brucey.net/nflab/statistics/qb_rating.html

    ESPNs Total QBR takes rushing by the quarterback into account, but apparently they have not disclosed exactly what goes into it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_quarterback_rating

    “Further controversy erupted when the Total QBR system gave the Denver Broncos’ Tim Tebow a higher rating than the Green Bay Packers’ Aaron Rodgers in their respective Week 5 contests in 2011. Noting that Rodgers completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns in a win over the Atlanta Falcons, while Tebow completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown, and six rushes for 38 yards and a touchdown, in a loss to the San Diego Chargers, Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com wrote that he’ll “continue to ignore ESPN’s Total QBR stat.”[10] Rodgers himself was surprised: “I saw the [QBR stats] and chuckled to myself. I played a full game, [Tebow] played the half. He completed four passes, I completed 26. I think it incorporates QB runs as well … The weighting of it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.”[11] ESPN’s Stats and Information Group explained that Tebow’s higher rating was the result of him staging a partial comeback, taking no sacks, and having positive rushing yards and a rushing touchdown, among other factors.[12][13] However, Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports wrote that the QBR system lacks a minimum performance frequency floor that players must meet before they can be rated, and thus it essentially penalizes Rodgers because he played throughout the entire game, while rewarding Tebow because he came off the bench in the second half in an attempt to stage a comeback.”

  25. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Thanks yankita for the article.

    I especially like this part-

    “His passer rating was 49.7, but Wilson has news for the math geeks out there: sometimes your formula sucks donkey balls.”

  26. yankinta says:

    yeah, that cracked me up too…. lol

  27. montanamike2 says:

    Shaub was baited into that throw, Sherman studies hard like Wilson but they had Earl faking that he was going for it so Shaub would make that particular read, total team effort to pull that off. It wasn’t like he had just lost to the Jags, but still 3 games in a row after underpeforming in the past. Burning his jersey?

  28. montanamike2 says:

    Wow did we win the lottery with Wilson.

  29. yankinta says:

    montanamike2,, Yup Yup,, That’s what I call TOP 5 QB. He has Great potential to be a Top 3 QB if not the Top QB in the very near future…. :)

  30. ChrisHolmes says:

    Any statistical measurement will always fall short of being comprehensive in the analysis of a quarterback. Does’t matter whether you choose QBR or the classic rating, you’re still only seeing a part of the picture.

    Fortunately, our coaches and FO don’t have to rely on singular metrics.

    I liked how Russell played down the stretch. I like how the stage is never too big for him. I like how he’s always looking downfield to make a play, and yet on 4th and 2 he scrambles and sacrifices his body and gets the first down. He’s a heady player. He knows what he needs to do and when he needs to do it. He’s not a run-first guy, but he knew, in certain situations on Sunday, when that was the best course of action, and he took what Houston gave him.

    He’s the ultimate competitor, and that’s what you want.

  31. ChrisHolmes says:

    Food for thought: Remember before the start of the 2012 season, when this blog was fairly divided over who should start, Flynn or Wilson?

    How does everyone think Flynn would have fared Sunday against that Houston defense with our OL?

    I get the feeling that the NFL single-game sack record would have been broken by Watt…

  32. We Seahawk fans can feel for the Houston fans in this way, that we’ve had Matt Schaub on our team many times. His name was Dave Kreig, Jon Kitna & Matt Hasselbeck. A QB when surrounded by talent could win many games. Did he lead his team to those victories, will his team to them? Not really, no. In other words, NOT a franchise QB.

    For the first time EVER, the Seahawks have THAT guy and I’ll be damned if it don’t feel great. At least Houston had Warren Moon for a while as the Oilers but that might make them feel worse now.

    The only title I’m interested in Russell Wilson having is Superbowl Champion. He’s going to get it this season. Peytron Manning can have the rest.

  33. Sarcasticus says:

    I am concerned because I cannot remember the last time RW completed a pass between the hashes. I am sure it has happened, but I don’t remember it. I am wondering if teams are purposely rushing up the middle to force him to throw outside. I would really love to see something down the hashes with Willson or even Baldwin. Anyone know if there is a stat tracker that tracks where passes are completed (much like a hit chart in baseball)?

    As far as division over RW or Flynn, I just remember page-long posts repeating the word Flynn. It was nonsense.

  34. Watching Matt Schaub on Sunday reminded me of Matt Hasselbeck in 2007. When the protection was there, he would destroy the Defense. But with any little breakdown forcing the QB had to improvise, the play generally ended badly. The Seahawks were fortunate in 2007 to play such a soft schedule.

    Both guys came in with mediocre physical abilities and made the best of them to have a stretch where they were very good QBs. Hasselbeck was a master of improvisation until EJ Henderson took out his knee in 2006. Once the injuries started hitting, the end came quickly. Schaub is just one injury away from the Matt Hasselbeck of 2008-2010.

  35. jawpeace says:

    Chuck e, I did not know that about Houston’s offense. I guess ignorance is the first stage of stupidity and many Houston fans are inebriated with ignorance. Especially the jersey burners. I would never in a million years burn my Seahawk Jersey. The only case I would be tempted was if I had an Aaron Hernandez Jersey. But that guy was exemplary of bad character and therefore I would never get a jersey of a jerk. Even if he played the game well. As Sherm said, “I am better at life…,” must be true for me; they must also do well in life if I am going to wear their jersey.

  36. doubledink says:

    jawpeace,
    It is a good reminder to all celebrities that their “fans” really don’t care about them at all. They only care about what they can get from them, be it money, wins for their favorite team, retweets, photo opportunities, acknowledgment, recognition, fantasy wins, or whatever. If RW started throwing 6 picks a game, week after week, this fan base would turn on him in a heartbeat.

    That is one of the things I admire about RW the most. He gets it. That is what is reflected in his attitude of “ignore the noise”. Look where he invests his time – with people who really matter in his life.

    Schaub would do well to allow this turmoil to help him refocus on who’s opinion really counts.

  37. Instead of qbr we should just go with what Jaws thinks. JqRs main component is number of tatoos plus total inches in height.

  38. Jaws jqr system also includes bonus points for being seen or photo graphed without a shirt.

  39. jchawks08 says:

    ChrisHolmes, I had indeed thought about that earlier today. RW vs Flynn. I was firmly in the Flynn camp for a brief period, as he had the experience factor and there was just no way a rookie QB was going to lead this young team to the playoffs. No way in hell. LMFAO. Ooops.
    But yea, Flynn would not have survived the 1st qtr. of that Houston game. Would have been Seattle vs Pittsburgh circa.. 2008? All over again. I believe that’s when we went to Pittsburgh and just got decimated. May have been there last Super Bowl season.

  40. freedom_X says:

    It’s interesting that Mike Holmgren discussed the Schaub interception today on KJR. Holmgren was very critical of it, and called it a gift to Seattle. He said that based on the formation and the defense, that pass should never have been thrown. He was very specific that the QB should have known that play had no chance based on the pre-snap read.

    Holmgren was astounded that Schaub could not audible out of that play. So am I. We’re talking about a 10 year veteran with 5+ years of starting experience. If he were a raw rookie, perhaps you a no audible policy, but that’s where veteran leadership comes into play. If a veteran, experienced leader knows what’s up, he’s going to defy that edict and change the play (or at least throw the ball away.)

    Schaub either didn’t have the backbone to make that change, he panicked under pressure and couldn’t think on his feet with Chancellor bearing down on him, he thought he could squeeze it in, or Kubiak is covering up for Schaub. At any rate, it’s why fans were burning Schaub’s jersey after the game. Perhaps Houston fans have seen this more than once.

  41. montanamike2 says:

    You could be right freedom_X, that’s a really good team and it looks like the fans have had it.

  42. montanamike2 says:

    Holmie seems a bit bitter against the Hawks under Pete Carroll.

  43. ChrisHolmes says:

    “I am concerned because I cannot remember the last time RW completed a pass between the hashes.”

    Sidney Rice TD out of the left slot, last week, a laser beam from RW as he stepped up into the pocket. It’s just the first one to come to mind. There have been plenty others, to Baldwin, Tate and Miller as well.

    Teams are playing RW the way you want to play a mobile QB, and that is pressure up the middle in a containment fashion, to attempt to keep him from running. For a running QB, the fastest escape path is always right up the middle. Teams are trying to take that away. They’re doing a relatively good job of it. But RW is freaky athletic and cat-quick.

    The bigger issue, to me, is receivers not getting open, either due to scheme of the play, defensive study, or whatever. We’re running some play action passes where, when RW turns around to look, no one is open.

    Or, more precisely, not open *enough*. PC is a guy who preaches and hammers on ball security. You know RW is hearing, over and over, don’t take risks with the ball. Throw it away, do something else, but don’t force it into coverage. I think we’re still seeing the results of a very cautious coaching philosophy at work.

    RW has all the confidence in the world. I bet he’s leaving throws on the field that he thinks he could make, but he’s not attempting them because of coaching.

    On top of that, I just think our guys aren’t getting open a lot. I think some of that is simply scheme. I like Bevell’s system, but I don’t like his first-half playcalling. I am not sure how much of that is due to scripted plays or what… But it seems to me like it takes him some time to get into the groove of the game, as a playcaller, and start playing to the strengths of what our guys can manage against a given opponent.

    I wish I had access to the all-22 film and could watch tape… Ugh.

  44. My o-line answer is to get Unger back at centre and move Jeanpierre to RG.

  45. pabuwal says:

    The All-22 is available for purchase on NFL.com.

  46. Does anyone know which local stations will be broadcasting the ESPN & NFL Network Seahawks games?

  47. Southendzone says:

    ESPN games (MNF) at least on Comcast are 31 and 173 (HD)
    NFL network (Thurs) for Comcast are XXX and 418 (HD)

    forgot the nonHD channel for NFLNET.

  48. jawpeace says:

    LVhawk, thanks for the link.
    I thought that these lines were interesting on two points. “With Chancellor all up in his grille, Schaub lofted a pass that really needed to be a dart, a bullet. But this one floated. Daniels tried to come back to the ball, and actually did get his hands on it. But Sherman, coming around from the outside, wrested it from him. “If he’d seen me, he would’ve played the ball differently,” recalled Sherman. “But I kinda snuck up on him.”"
    One with Kam in his face it was not possible for a dart. A dart throw would have been knocked down or maybe even a pick for six. The throw if you are going to throw it was the only one possible for the situation. Sherman says point two, and if I am reading it correctly he isn’t blaming the QB, the he refers to the TE. Daniels could have played the ball different, which would have resulted in something different. I am glad that neither Daniels or Shaub saw the Shermanitor. This guy really needs a nick name.

  49. Southendzone says:

    Interesting NFL news by Adam Shefter:

    QB John Skelton who was considering signing with TEN due to the Locker injury, has signed with the 49ers.

    It made me curious because 49ers don’t need a QB and Skelton sucks terribly. Then I looked at 49er schedule, they play TEN in 3 weeks, it’s a strategic personnel move to keep him off of TEN’s roster.

  50. doubledink says:

    If he sucks terribly why wouldn’t they want him on TEN’s roster?

  51. freedom_X says:

    Holmgren’s “gift” comment, I felt, wasn’t a backhanded dismissal of Seattle’s win. I didn’t sense any of that in the radio piece. Instead, it was plain astonishment that the Texans and Schaub would run a play that was so DOA. That was the point that came across very strongly. It’s was more egregious than a mere mistake. It was completely wrong, in his view.

    In general, I don’t perceive Holmgren as being snarky or vindictive. He really wouldn’t have much of a radio career in Seattle, really, if he were taking unwarranted shots at the Seahawks. In the same piece, KJR asked Holmgren how he felt about Jim Brown’s recent potshots against him (Holmgren said he hadn’t heard them yet, as he just got back from a charity trip in Guatemala and only watched the Houston game for the 1st time on replay, Monday.)

    I would have blasted Jim Brown with double barrels instantly, but Holmgren didn’t do that at all and was very gracious towards Brown. Even if Holmgren really had time to compose his response, he made it sound natural and authentic, which I would have found difficult.

  52. GeorgiaHawk

    Oct. 1, 2013 at 7:44 am

    Schaubs QBR-52.9

    Wilsons QBR-20.6

    I just don’t understand how some say the total QBR system is the best way to evaluate a QBs performance in a game.

    I AGREE!!!

  53. Didn’t Matt Hasselbeck QB a team to the Super Bowl and come within a man named Bill Leavy from winning it?

    Schaub can barely win a play-off game with a great running game, one of the best receivers in the NFL this past decade and a great defense.

  54. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK thanks, and I’m sure Skip Baseless and Sando wouldn’t agree. lol.

  55. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Not trying to start something but I wish we could trade Jackson for Hasselbeck.

  56. That would be a ridiculous waste of cap space for someone who’s not a better QB at this point.

  57. GeorgiaHawk says:

    There’s more to being a backup QB then being a better back up QB.

    How about smarter. Or mentor. or better communicator. Things that can help a young QB develop faster.
    See Locker. See Luck.

  58. freedom_X says:

    Given the current state of the O-line – if Wilson gets knocked out, Hasselbeck would last about 1 half of football before he’s gets KO’ed as well. Jackson has proved he can take a beating from an inept offensive line.

  59. doubledink says:

    Jim Brown is a tool. For him to air a grievance publicly like that was a stoop, even for him. I get that he and Mike had bad blood from Mike’s dealing with him, but let’s face it, Mike was brought in to turn an organization around and he sees a PR, has-been pulling down like a million dollars a year for what could be called player counseling services when they have assistant coaches busting their tails for pittance in comparison to what they actually provide to the team. Mike offered him 100k to remain (probably still more that many assistants make) and JB gets a case of red-a$$ and storms out and turns directly to the media where he continues to air his gripes.

    As it turns out Mike wasn’t able to turn the team around and was handed his hat, but his decision with Brown was the right decision.

  60. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Jackson wouldn’t last long either behind this line. At least Hasselbeck is smart enough to get rid of the ball faster, so I say it’s a tie.
    Now everything else is clearly in Hasselbecks favor.

  61. I love(d) Hasselbeck, but atthis point I wouldn’t drop Tarvaris for Hasselbeck.

  62. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Just tell me, What is Wilson going to learn from Jackson? A whole pile of nothing is my guess.

    Not saying that Jackson can’t be a capable backup though. Just not a leader type or mentor type.

  63. Georgiahawk and his white whale, Matt Hasselbeck.

  64. GeorgiaHawk says:

    bbmate Lol.
    I am happy to have a backup like Jackson, and I know Hasselbeck is a pipe dream. But it is fun to dream on occasion anyways.

  65. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BTW- BobbyK started this Hasselbeck talk at the 4:26 mark. Lol.

  66. TJack = 840 K. Hasselbeck = 2 mil. Not gonna happen. This isn’t 2005. Hasselbeck isn’t 30 anymore. This team could do better than to replace the backup QB if they’re going to make a trade.

  67. I can understand the emotional attachment. I was happy when Griffey came back even though he was a shell of his former self.

  68. GeorgiaHawk says:

    bbmate- If you believe strong enough almost anything can happen.

  69. Like I was telling Duke on a facebook chat last night… bring back Hutch to play LG!!!

    How’s that for stirring the pot???

  70. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Bring back Hutch and Jones I say! Why not! Half of what they are today is better then the whole of what we have now.

    If only it could come true.

  71. ChrisHolmes says:

    “The All-22 is available for purchase on NFL.com.”

    Thanks pabuwai, but I don’t have TV (I have a television and Netflix; no live tv, cable, or satellite).

    Maybe someday…

  72. MoSeahawk12 says:

    The Niners also released No. 3 quarterback B.J. Daniels on Tuesday. The seventh-round pick was a preseason standout, and Daniels is likely a candidate to go to the practice squad if he is not claimed by another team Wednesday.

  73. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Yankers dream QB

  74. emperorzook says:

    Does anyone have an idea of what OL men are available? Is it to early to try to determine who would be available in the 2014 draft on the OL

  75. freedom_X says:

    If Seattle wants Wilson to learn from someone, hire Joe Montana. If they want someone to be a reliable backup who won’t get hurt after 1 game, stick with Jackson.

  76. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Barely worth commenting on but what the hell. I’m a huge Hasselbeck fan and felt he was our best QB when he was here. However, years later, age, cost, system and the fact that we have a younger, stronger, healthier, less expensive option. TJack has looked great this season, although in preseason and against The Jags in a blowout. Matt will end up in the Ring of Honor, but won’t ever make it back on the field with this team.

  77. Dukeshire says:

    ChrisHolmes – The NFL Game Rewind is a great investment: compressed games, All-22, the full game in it’s entirety.

    https://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/secure/packages?ttv=1&icampaign=Prod_GR_Nav&cvsorc=Homepage.GR.Video_Nav

  78. pabuwal says:

    It looks like the only plan that offers the Coaches Film for every play is $70. The $30 plan indicates only “select plays.”

  79. Dukeshire says:

    Yeah, but you can spread it out at $17 a month, if you need to. That helps some folks, I’m sure.

  80. Radem44 says:

    Jags just traded tackle Eugene Monroe to the Ravens for some third-day picks.

  81. ChrisHolmes says:

    @Dukeshire Thanks Duke. I’ll have to look into it.

  82. yankinta says:

    MoSeahawk12,, That is great News!! but I doubt that we claim him on Waivers…. But we may compete for him to sign with us onto our practice squad,, and he should consider us first before anyone else…. I would not be surprised if he ended up on our P-squad soon. :)

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