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Morning links: Bradley upbeat, as always, about return to Seattle

Post by Todd Dybas / The News Tribune on Sep. 19, 2013 at 7:15 am with 38 Comments »
September 19, 2013 10:16 am

Good morning.

> Our Dave Boling wrote about Gus Bradley’s return to the Seahawks.

He returns to Seattle on Sunday as the head coach of the Jaguars, who are noted for their impotent offense (11 points in two games) and recent status as a league doormat, which have combined to leave them as underdogs by a margin that is unheard of in the NFL — 19.5 points.

> I wrote about the Okung situation.

> In a nutshell: boo-hoo.

That’s essentially what a couple Seahawks fans wrote to the San Francisco Chronicle in response to complaints from 49ers fans the ear-drum rattling noise at CenturyLink Field was unsportsmanlike. From one of the Seattle letters:

Sports do give us a place of joy, community and hope. We Seattleites call that place CenturyLink Field – home of “the 12th Man.” We are loud because we are proud of our Seattle Seahawks.

> I was remiss yesterday not to mention that Richard Sherman was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week. He’ll dance to that.

> DE Cliff Avril is from the Jacksonville region, so Florida Times-Union writer Hays Carlyon was at the VMAC Wednesday to write about him:

Avril didn’t hear much from his hometown team during his free agency. The Jaguars elected to avoid spending big money on premium players.

“I didn’t hear anything from them,” Avril said. “But everything happens for a reason. I’m in Seattle having fun with a pretty good team, so I can’t complain.”

> The Times-Union also has three storylines for the Jaguars this week against the Seahawks. In a sidenote you may not care about, but I will throw in anyway, this is written by Ryan O’Halloran, who is the Jags’ beat writer. We both landed our first jobs for a small paper in upstate New York. We’ve been friends since. He wonders if the Jags can take advantage of the shuffled offensive line, how they will deal with the crowd and if the Seahawks’ offense will get its act together, which would be bad news for Jacksonville:

The Jaguars’ problems on offense are well-documented — nine points in two games, one touchdown on 26 drives, 11 sacks allowed, etc.

But despite being 2-0 and thumping San Francisco 29-3, Seattle is 23rd in total offense (330.0) and 22nd in yards per rush (3.3) and has allowed Russell Wilson to be sacked six times.


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  1. sluggo42 says:

    Comments in the Jax rag are pretty funny from their own fans. But I get it. We have been there too. But now we are the big monster, and stepping into the monsters home cage isn’t going to be pretty. I think their goal is to leave the cage alive…

  2. bird_spit says:

    Well said sluggo

  3. Dang the video has been taken down

  4. Sluggo – your comment in an earlier post about facetime – would be funny but Century link has terrible WiFi – and they want like $29 for the game to access it anyway!


  5. sluggo42 says:

    4g doesn’t work?

    We should demand that they provide free wi-fi.

    That way, everyone could bring a “FaceTime Friend” then there would be 135 thousand screaming…


  6. hawkfan777 says:

    Anyone see that quote from Tom Brady today regarding Revis being the best corner he ever faced? He also said something about Woodson and a few other corner backs as being very good also but not as good as Revis.

    It was evident in the way he said it that he was purposely excluding Sherman from the list. I wonder if Sherman will use that as fuel or if he will make a comment??

  7. At this point, i’m happy when people disrespect this team and players. It only adds to the chip on their shoulder. So keep it up America and we’ll see what happens when your team plays our team

  8. wazzulander says:

    Haha, it sounds like Sherman is definately in Brady’s head if he’s going out of his way to slight him.

  9. FleaFlicker says:

    sluggo42: in a way I envy Jax fans….think of the season tickets available! Saved my money, got my season tickets three years ago, and I’m still living in the nose bleeds.

    Just a random thought about McQuistan in light of Russell O being out for a while. Paul’s certainly not a premier lineman, but he is exactly what he needs to be: a guy that can come into a big game and play anywhere on the line. Matched against Aldon Smith and with almost zero practice time at LT, he had some whiffs. He’s not going to be Okung (and he’s not paid like that either). But if we can get 80% of Okung’s level of play, that’s a good outcome. Not every position can be pro-bowl level.

  10. JazBadAzz says:

    Does anyone knows what’s going to happen with the insist pick’em?

  11. JazBadAzz says:


  12. Flea -Been in the stadium since it opened still have seats in the rain and 300 level – but i LOVE’EM!!

    I have trouble getting any connection at the stadium with consistency but I only have 3G.

    Will be an interesting game for sure!!!

  13. FleaFlicker says:

    Don’t know if anybody heard, but Ken Norton Sr. (father of LB coach Ken Norton Jr.) passed away this week. I never realized that the Senior Norton actually broke Muhammad Ali’s jaw. Holy smokes, that is a tough family. Condolences.

  14. Clink = Seattle’s Thunderdome: Two teams enter, one team leaves…

  15. Dukeshire says:

    Macklemore… Not off to a very good start, Todd. lol

  16. Awesome work on the blog Todd. Positively “Sando-esque” (referring to back in the day when he was a blogging machine).

    The letters to the editor are funny, the writers claimed the crowd exhibited “unsportsmanlike conduct”. Cheering your team is the exact opposite of that and is the epitome of sportsmanlike conduct as far as what a fan can do. Any truth to the rumor that Richard Sherman wrote the letter to the editor? (Kidding!!!!!)

  17. Todd Dybas says:

    Hey, folks.
    Sorry about the video. I set this up around 1 a.m. and it existed then. The NFL is very strict with all video. Not sure why that was suddenly taken down.

  18. RDPoulsbo says:

    That’s because the NFL attempts to control their content with an iron fist and even goes far beyond the legal fair use threshold. I’m not sure how they get away with it either unless someone decides to challenge them in court.

    “…any accounts or descriptions of this game are strictly prohibited.” So says their copyright warning. How is that even legal, let alone enforceable?

  19. yankinta says:

    Good Read…. I agree with Robert a lot more than I agree with Peter King….

  20. chuck_easton says:


    You omitted ‘without written consent of the NFL’ and the wording used here is required in copyright and trademark law.

    If the party that holds the copyright or trademark does not show to be actively defending against use of the product then that can be grounds for an argument that they have abandoned the strict control of the name, product, or phrase.

    Case in point. There is an indoor amusement park inside the West Edmonton Mall here in Alberta. For quite some time the place was called ‘Fantasyland’. Disney got wind of it and sued for infringement on their product. Because, of course, anybody who is at the mall in Edmonton Alberta and sees an amusement park called fantasyland is going to think that it is somehow associated with Disneyland.

    Well, Disney won and now the place is called Galaxyland. Disney has to protect the brand each and every time it is brought their attention that someone is using the brand name without permission or they risk forfieture of the claim to the name.

    This is also why the Olympics is a protected name. When the Winter Olympics were in Calgary they sued a motel called the Olympic Motel, and they sued a pizza place called Olympic Pizza because they did not give permission and they didn’t want anyone attending the games to think these places were official sponsors. They won. This is also why the International Olympic Organization sued the group that used to hold the Gay Olympics for unauthorized use of the brand name. Now they are called the Gay Games. You can’t have an Office Olympics, a Pet Olympics, a Boyscouts Olympics, or anything of that nature unless you get written permission and you will not get it.

    By putting up that video there was an unauthorized infringement on the copyright and even though it seemed harmless it had to be removed from the internet or the NFL would have had to take legal action or risk losing their exclusive claim to the product.

    Doesn’t seem fair, but them’s the rules.

  21. chuck_easton says:

    Oh, and enforcement of copyright law is also why you no longer hear the ‘Happy Birthday Song’ being sung at restaurants any longer.

    The copyright on the song has been purchased and unless you are prepared to pay royalties every time you sing the song in public you are infringing on the copyright and can be sued for damages.

    So now we get to be ‘entertained’ by all those silly made up birthday diddies that each establishment has come up with.

    The moral is if you are holding a birthday party for little Johnny this weekend at the local ChuckieCheese, don’t sing the ‘Happy Birthday Song’ in public or you could find yourself being sued for financial damages.

  22. RDPoulsbo says:

    Not sure that I agree with Robert on the Richardson trade. Whether or not they liked Richardson as a #3 overall, that was already a sunk cost made by the previous FO, who almost had a 1000 yard rushing while playing with broken ribs. He’s only in the 2nd year of a cheap rookie contract, which means a cheap asset the team already had to protect a young QB as he comes along next year that will now have to be addressed next year.

    Also, going Bridgwater or bust creates more harm than good for the existing lockerroom atmosphere, most of whom will be on the team next year. How do you create a winning team environment by trying to lose? If the FO isn’t committed to developing their players, why would anyone want to stay when their current contract is up?

  23. RDPoulsbo says:

    Point taken chuck. Still, I’m not sure how enforceable it might be when used for non-commercial purposes. I can see how TNT could get in trouble, but there’s a lot of gray area when it comes to the internet.

  24. yankinta says:

    RDPoulsbo,, those are good points. But I was referring to overpaying for a RB. 1st round pick is too high IMO. plus I don’t think the Colts will make the playoffs so that might become a mid 1st round pick. You should be able to find great RB in the mid round or later rounds…. look at what trade value we paid for Lynch.

  25. RDPoulsbo says:

    I wouldn’t count out the Colts out of the playoffs just yet. Aside from Denver and to a lesser extent Houston, there aren’t many good teams in the AFC. Maybe Miami or KC, but they haven’t really proven themselves…with a win each over Cleveland and Jax respectively. I agree that Luck isn’t exactly elite, but even middle of the road should be enough to get into the AFC playoffs this year.

    As for what Seattle paid for Lynch, Buffalo used a 1st round pick on him before giving up way too early. It just goes to show how important scheme and coaching are in this league.

  26. freedom_X says:

    Since Brady has only seen Sherman once, and he put up 395 yards passing when he did – I’m not surprised he put Revis as #1. Even if Seattle had a great game, I’m not ranking a guy who played me once over a guy I’ve seen 10+ times.

    I also believe the Browns made a great move. I sensed Jim Irsay was in panic mode and thought he might pull the interfering owner trick. I was hoping Seattle might offer up a surplus running back, because Irsay was ready to overpay big time. A trade like this is almost unheard of, and with good reason. Irsay probably thinks he’s going to have a bottom 5 draft pick – I think it will end up being around the #15 range.

    There should be a couple of good QB prospects in next year’s draft, so extra picks gives them a shot at more than Bridgewater. Sad to say, it’s no surprise Holmgren was cut loose. Besides drafting a RB with the #3 instead of trading up for Griffin, he bet the farm on Brandon Weeden becoming a good QB quickly (which Weeden had to become, given his age.)

    Unfortunately, I doubt McQuistan will even be 80% of Okung. 80% of Okung is a above average left tackle. 50% is a more realistic ceiling for McQuistan. Zach Miller is going to be doing a lot more blocking for a while.

  27. yankinta says:

    RDPoulsbo, you’re right, it may be too early but so far, I’m thinking Texans are a lock for winning that division. I see other Division winners as Denver, Bengals, Patriots or Miami (both playoff teams, Div winner and wildcard). That only leaves room for one more playoff team in the AFC. I like the Chiefs a lot better than Colts. And I like the Ravens a little better than Colts. That’s why I say, I don’t think Colts will make it to the playoff.

  28. Interesting post by Condotta re 11 training camp cuts now on other rosters

    Blackmon, Knox and Guy for Jacksonville
    OL Mike Person, St. Louis
    MLB Allen Bradford, New York Giants
    OL John Moffitt, Denver
    DL Jaye Howard, Kansas City
    TE Sean McGrath, Kansas City
    CB Ron Parker, Kansas City
    WR Chris Harper, San Francisco
    QB Brady Quinn, New York Jets

  29. Todd Dybas says:

    At the very least, the video is now up on the Seahawks’ site. Can’t embed, so here is the link:

  30. SandpointHawk says:

    That’s a pretty amazing number of cuts to make other rosters. Of course Moffitt was a trade but a trade any warm body available apparently.

  31. Ugh, appears as though Okung is off to visit Dr James Andrews. Let’s hope it isn’t the standard Dr James Andrews news.

  32. SandpointHawk says:

    Thanks Todd for the Macklemore link…

  33. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Thanks Todd.

  34. Southendzone says:

    On the Richardson trade, I think there’s a good argument that both teams got a good deal. But here are the TRUE winners and losers:

    Losers: Browns fans for this year who might have hoped for a decent season

    Winners: All other NFL fans who get to watch their games on NFL rewind and look for blatant signs of them tanking for next year’s #1 pick.

  35. banosser says:

    Has Andrews ever not cut on a player?

  36. doubledink says:

    Kimberly-Clark is equally vigilant to defend their rights to the Kleenex name. They have sued authors who have used it in their writing.

    nice and clever responses by Seahawks fans to the paper.

  37. I think the Browns trade is a terrible one – and one that would make me hugely depressed if I was a fan of that team. They are essentially turning the #3 pick in the draft into something like the #20 pick, just one year later. And I’ve watched Richardson plenty (fantasy football reasons), and no way would I call him a bust. Maybe, you could make an argument that he was over-drafted at #3, but you’re not going to find a better player at #20, which is what you’ve just done. And, as others have said, this is the right time in a RB’s career to have him, young and on his rookie deal.

    Glad we’re not in the Browns’ fans shoes . . .

  38. SandpointHawk says:

    @ pdway… I have a lot of friends from Ohio from an unfortunate period of time I lived in Ohio. I can say they are definitely not happy with the Browns move…

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