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Morning links: Hawks will miss Okung

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 18, 2013 at 8:22 am with 37 Comments »
September 18, 2013 8:22 am
Seattle Seahawks' Russell Okung (76) looks to get into position to block Carolina Panthers' Greg Hardy (76) and Mario Addison (97) while allowing his teammate Zach Miller (86) get loose during the first half of an NFL football game  in Charlotte, N.C., Sunday, Sept. 8, 2013. Seattle won 12-7. (AP Photo/Bob Leverone)
Seattle Seahawks’ Russell Okung (76) looks to get into position to block Carolina Panthers’ Greg Hardy (76) and Mario Addison (97) while allowing his teammate Zach Miller (86) get loose during the first half of an NFL football game in Charlotte, N.C., Sunday, Sept. 8, 2013. Seattle won 12-7. (AP Photo/Bob Leverone)

John McGrath of The News Tribune writes this morning that there’s no replacing Seattle Seahawks offensive tackle Russell Okung, who’s out indefinitely with a toe injury.

McGrath says backup Paul McQuistan should be fine against Jacksonville, but worries about the prospects of J.J. Watt when Seattle plays Houston in two weeks.

McGrath: “There’s a chance Okung could recover in time to prevent Watt from putting on a Sept. 29 chainsaw-massacre in Texas. It’s about the same chance Eminem has of pursuing a career in the TV booth as a college-football analyst alongside Brent and Herb.

A more reasonable timetable for Okung’s recovery is six weeks, which is what Washington Redskins wide receiver Pierre Garcon needed after suffering a similar injury last year. (Upon returning, by the way, Garcon was not 100 percent.)”

My story today covers the play of defensive tackle Michael Bennett who has exceeded expectations.

Clare Farnsworth of takes a first look at Jacksonville.

Jayson Jenks of The Seattle Times writes that Earl Thomas is stepping his game up.

Brock Huard of 710 ESPN Seattle breaks down Marshawn Lynch’s 14-yard touchdown run against San Francisco in this Chalk Talk video link.

Gregg Rosenthal of ranks Russell Wilson No. 9 on his quarterback index.

Jack Becta of the National Football Post expects the Seahawks to be good for a long time. Becta: “If you like how they performed against the Niners last Sunday night, keep in mind they had two defensive players in street clothes, which had a combined 19.5 sacks last year. In addition, Pete Carroll makes playing there fun and he also has an eye for talent. As one scout told me, “they pay their evaluators well, there are no egos about it and everyone feels secure about their job. That my friends is a formula for stability.”

Pro Football Focus breaks down the Seahawks-49ers game here.

Mike Tanier writing for Sports on Earth delves into the secrets of Seattle’s dominant defense. It all starts with man coverage.

Robert Mays of Grantland takes a closer look at how the Seahawks became the coolest team in the NFL.

Greg Bedard of The MMQB debates whether Johnny Manziel if a future NFL quarterback or the next failed Heisman trophy winner.

Morning links
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  1. yankinta says:

    So Russell should be back by the time we play at the RAMS on Monday Night Football? Time for our Rookie Tackles to step up and fill in. We should be fine for the next 6 weeks but that RAM DE’s are the best DE Duo in the League….

    JJ Watts mostly rushes from the inside (A Gaps) or he’ll go against Breno,, so I’m not that worried about him.

  2. chuck_easton says:

    Six weeks is very optimistic. He’s a BIG man that puts a lot of tork and pressure on that toe when he pushes off from his stance.

    I’m betting 8 to 10 weeks and he’s placed on IR – Designated to Return before next Wednesday.

  3. bird_spit says:

    I think we will be fine. Tom Cable, pull your socks up, and get to work..

  4. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Gino against JJ is going to be ugly. Gino will need help that game for sure. Watts is at another level.

  5. HawkfaninMT says:

    @Chuck:With IR-Designated to Return… Do they count agains the 53? If they don’t… Does anyone see us bringing in another LT to fill the role if he is IR’d?

    Here is a relatively updated list of FAs. Some names that jump out to me as stop gaps are: Max Starks, Jared Gaither, and Frank Omiyale

  6. GeorgiaHawk says:

    A 49ers fan from the comment section of Robert Mays article of Grantland.

    “This is a pretty awesome article. As a Niners fan I was disappointed, but not surprised, in the outcome of the game…CenturyLink is an awesome home field for the Seahawks…but, as a football fan, I think it is GREAT that Seattle has become the team they are today. Gone are the days of the NFC West being the laughing stock of the NFL. This is the beginning of a great rivalry, a real one, one that matters. I will say that the one thing that disappoints me with these articles is that I can always count on seeing fans of both teams sniping the other teams fans, calling names and being disrespectful. I, for one, do not hate the Seahawks, or their fans…I respect them for the team they were, and the team they have become. Together we have turned the NFC on it’s head, and that is something to respect one another for. Sunday, the Seattle Seahawks were the best team on the field and Niner fans need to accept that and hope the team learned from that…to Seahawk fans I say “good game”, hopefully we get you back December 8th. Good luck the rest of the way…till next time!”

  7. banosser says:

    Clady just got IRd by the Broncos…

  8. Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman has been named the NFC’s Defensive Player of the Week for his performance Sunday in Seattle’s 29-3 win over the 49ers

  9. Thanks Georgia for those comments from SF. I truly feel the same way about the 49ers. Man they are a solid team and I am glad that our division has the respect that we certainly didn’t not so long ago. I get so tired of the East Coast bias and constant kudos for the Cowboys despite their ONE playoff win in what, a decade?? I like the fact that Arizona and SF made it to the Super Bowl – although I am also glad that they didn’t win! Before the SF game Sunday I was driving back home in Las Vegas and pulled up behind a nice looking red sporty looking car – very clean with a SF 49ers license frame, a nice chrome SF 49er logo attached to their trunk next to the license plate and a 49er flag waving from both front windows. I could see that they were a young couple (the wife was wearing her SF hat) and they had a young child in the back seat. It took me a bit to catch up to them but I finally pulled up alongside them on the freeway – I honked at them and pointed to my Seahawk hat and waved and gave them a thumbs up – they immediately smiled and waved back. It was fun – I have mad respect for anyone who roots for their team. Just enjoy the games, appreciate watching these great athletes compete and respect the fact that the opposing fans have just as much passion about their teams.

  10. tealskin says:

    No doubt it will be an “adventure” on the O-line for the remainder of the season, whoever ends up playing. RW better be ready. This could be a year where his numbers disappoint and we go all the way.

  11. chuck_easton says:


    If Okung is put on IR -Designated to Return, he doesn’t count towards the 53 for those weeks, but his salary still counts towards the cap.

    That is why with an injury that can take 6 weeks or more the team is better off putting him on the IR -DtR list so they can sign another player to the 53.

    An injury of a week or two (or three) you can carry on the 53 and just make the guy inactive. When you are talking almost 1/2 the season, it’s better to IR the player and get a body that can contribute.

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Did you read this response in the comment section to the letter jboard1. Lol.

    “I can’t believe Judy and Rich took time away from their marathon of having silent sex in the missionary position purely for the purpose of procreation to write this letter.”

  13. Dave Boling says:

    We should have better idea on Okung after hearing Pete at 12:10, although he might be intentionally vague about the situation. Will be interesting to see if they keep Bailey active this week and maybe even give him some time spelling McQuistan. It’s obvious that McQuistan is vulnerable to some match ups, but he’s mostly proven himself serviceable and versatile, getting 28 starts (playoffs included) at left tackle, left guard and right guard.

  14. Haha Georgie, I did not see that…good catch lol!

  15. Georgia* my bad

  16. MoSeahawk12 says:

    9er fans are living in Egypt. They are still making excuses for last Sundays beat down and vow our Seahawks will get it handed to them on December 8th in SF. Small sample of some I read. Same old inaccurate garbage from uninformed fans.
    “Seahawks can only win at home because of fake crowd noise. It would not surprise me if somehow they were hooking it up to the stadium sound system.”
    “Pete will get his for rubbing it in.” “Pete the cheat” lots of USC comments.
    The Seahawks DBs hold on every play and the refs don’t call it.
    Lots of PED comments.

    49er offense is too complex for loud stadiums, they will run it at will in December.
    Seahawks are cheaters like their coach and they only beat the 9ers cause the 9ers retaliated.
    Even stupid crap like the chop block that broke their NT ankle being planned.
    Freaking ridiculous fans over there.
    One of my favorites, the Superbowl isn’t won in week two, but will be decided December 8th. Really, decided before the regular season ends? Lots of morons near the bay I guess.
    Have fun, here’s the link for free entertainment.

  17. Thanks MO! I can read this stuff all day as entertainment. These people are so ridiculous.

  18. From what Ive seen from McQ this year, he has lost a step. Last year and the year before he could step in for Okung or anyone else and do fine, but he looked miserably inept at LT last week. Even with help, he was overpowered and tentative. Perhaps he will improve with a week practicing at LT. One can hope.

    I’d like to see Bailey and Bowie get some time. After all, Cable insists the only way to improve is to play, thats been his excuse for playing Sweezy while he continues to suck.

    Georgia–That was a cool comment from a classy Niners fan. I didnt think there were any left. Sad to say, there are some Seahawks fans that could take a page from this dude…

  19. WiscCory says:

    In the Michael Bennett article:

    “According to Pro Football Focus, Bennett recorded a sack, a quarterback hit, four hurries and three tackles in his 42 snaps against the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday night.”

    Wow, this dude is shooting up the favorite Seahawk charts

    Adding a “so what” type comment, did you know that Michael’s brother is Martellus Bennett, TE, Bears?

  20. yankinta says:

    Wow, this is a really good article/break of our successful Defensive Plays….

  21. chuck_easton says:

    Avril looked good in his limited time out there. Bennett was a deamon. If Avril can stay healthy those two pick ups will pay off. Still not sold on Avril until he can be on the field for a couple of games in a row.

    He had a reputation in Detroit of always having some nagging ‘something’ that stopped him from practicing but would be able to play through it on Sunday.

    From what Eric has written he seems to be going full speed at practice with the Seahawks so maybe he has decided to step up the level.

    Once Clemmons is back (and I wouldn’t be suprised if he is in there this weekend for a few snaps) and Irvin’s timeout is complete this team could be very dangerous on passing downs.

    All that combined with Red’s re-emergence as the imoveable wall on run plays and the D-line suddenly becomes a strength.

  22. bsinnitt says:

    If the rookies aren’t ready to step up, I would think bringing Omiyale back would be preferable to starting McQuistan. I thought Omiyale was a solid back up for us when he played previously.

  23. another excellent article by Sherman. very cool that he’s doing that.

    Agree about Bennett and Avril – looking like very smart additions right now.

  24. yankinta says:

    This article explained well but I’m still concerned about our D face Bunch Formations…. No one has tested us with Bunch formations but only in the Preseason againt Denver. And I know I didn’t like how our D defended that Bunch Formation by Peyton Manning and his WR’s….

  25. NYHawkFan says:

    Off topic. If you didn’t see it, the Wall Street Journal posted this in today’s newspaper. Wilson is putting up some very nice figures and compares favorably with a number of elite QBs.

    Everyone points to Payton Manning as the reason for Denver’s #1 ranking, but compare their figures!

    The top nine NFL quarterbacks in terms of passer rating since Week 7 of the 2012 season (min. 200 attempts), plus Eli Manning.

    PLayer/team Comp/Att PCT YDS TD/INT QB RTG
    1. A. Rodgers GB 273/406 67.2 3,471 30/5 113.2
    2. P. Manning DEN 303/441 68.7 3,620 32/7 111.1
    3. R. Wilson SEA 190/293 64.8 2,472 20/5 106.9
    4. M. Ryan ATL 320/460 69.6 3,641 22/9 100.8
    5. R. Griffin III WAS 201/321 62.6 2,506 20/6 99.8
    6. D. Brees NO 335/515 65.0 4,136 32/16 97.5
    7. P. Rivers SD 249/394 63.2 2,728 23/7 95.7
    8. T. Brady NE 289/485 59.6 3,455 27/6 94.8
    9. C. Kaepernick SF 171/276 62.0 2,264 13/6 94.5
    21. E. Manning NYG 233/402 58.0 2,988 20/17 80.3

  26. NYHawkFan says:

    Sorry… the columns lined up before I posted, but they were reformatted.

  27. That’s a huge injury for Denver . . .

  28. Dukeshire says:

    yankinta – Point of correction: The A gaps are to either side of the center (between the center and guard) where DT (primarily NT) rushes from. Watt is a DE and almost exclusively a LDE. He most very likely won’t ever see the B gap, let alone A. But you are correct about facing Breno, that will be his primary matchup.

    McGrath, The only way Okung could prevent Watt from doing anything, if he was on the field, is if he were to switch to RT.

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    NYHawkFan – That happened to me yesterday.

  30. yankinta says:

    Dukeshire, I know exactly where the A Gaps are… lol, thanks though. Yes, I’ve seen him rushing from the left A Gap between Center and Right Guard many times. Maybe you have not because you have not watched enough of his games… :)

    If you look at his tipped passes, you’ll see they come from him rushing through left A and B Gaps and realizing he won’t get there in time and he would just rise up from there…. :)

  31. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Thanks LVHawk, Great article by Sherman.

  32. Dukeshire says:

    yankinta – Many times? That’s a flat out lie, or you’re simply mistaken. (So you’re now including B gap?) You said A and that’s what I take exception to. Sample: I just watched every one of his 69 defensive snaps taken Sunday against Tenn (he was off the field for 2 plays, by my count). Only twice did he stunt into the A gap. First at the 1:54 mark in the 1st and again at 3:36 in the third. That’s 2 out of 61. Care to revisit “many”. I’m certain that if I went back and looked into it further, I’d find similar results.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you start talking scheme and facts, you’d do well to better inform yourself, if I may.

  33. Here’s another comment from that deadspin piece:

    “Other things the NFL should consider while implementing this fine proposal:

    – Stadium dress code. Sportcoat needed, tie optional but recommended

    – No more beer sales. Only wine. And none of that white zinfandel plonk. Each section gets their own sommelier to help with food pairing recommendations

    – Fans who choose to consume a beverage without their pinkies extended from the vessel will be immediately evicted from the stadium

    – Halftime will be consist of a high tea with finger sandwiches and crumpets for all spectators

    – Every stadium must provide at least three different types of caviar for the enjoyment of the fans.

    – Celebrations must be tasteful and dignified else the offending ruffian be evicted from the premises immediately. Celebrations considered vulgar include, but are not limited to, high fives, “whooping” or other loud and undignified noises, chest bumping or other methods of obscene bodily contact, and raising ones hands in the air as if said individual is simply not concerned.”

  34. We have no idea how long Okung will be out. Many here were convinced that Carp would be out for an extended period of time. How’d that play out? Assuming it will be the same as Garcon’s injury is just asinine. We don’t know the severity of both of the injuries. Just wait and see.

  35. MoSeahawk12 says:

    You know how it goes with yanker Duke. The dude is never wrong and everyone here doesn’t watch enough, know enough or isn’t smart enough to question his complete and utter football knowledge. He’s takes are skewed far in whatever direction he wants to bless us with that day. Mistaken is his middle name.

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