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Morning links: Marshawn’s mode

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 5, 2013 at 6:47 am with 65 Comments »
September 5, 2013 6:50 am
Seattle Seahawks' Marshawn Lynch is shown with his helmet off during NFL football training camp, Thursday, July 25, 2013, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)
Seattle Seahawks’ Marshawn Lynch is shown with his helmet off during NFL football training camp, Thursday, July 25, 2013, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

Good morning. Our Seattle Seahawks season preview debuts this morning.

The main story for this year’s section is on Marshawn Lynch, the enigmatic Seattle running back who speaks with his actions instead of his words.

To get some deeper perspective on Lynch, I traveled down to Oakland before training camp, attending his annual football camp at his old stomping grounds, Oakland Tech High. Lynch also put his time in down in Oakland, arriving at training camp in the best shape of his life.

“He’s really worked,” Seahawks running backs coach Sherman Smith said. “And we’ve just talked about him getting better this year, so in the fourth quarter when we go into our four-minute offense, he stays on the field. I told him that’s your job – to win the game for us in the end.

“So when we have to run the ball 10 times, 12 times – whatever it is – that he’s not on the sideline eating Skittles and drinking water.”

Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes that there’s no comparison when judging Russell Wilson heading into his second season.

My story on Wilson takes a closer look at the development of his top-flight decision making skills.

T.J. Cotterill of The News Tribune explores how Seattle’s defense will be different under new defensive coordinator Dan Quinn.

More Cotterill: Richard Sherman creates a buzz with his words and his play.

John McGrath of The News Tribune says that unlike the 2005 Seahawks’ squad that advanced to the Super Bowl, this year’s team won’t come out of the blue.

And from our daily section, Cliff Avril expresses his frustrations with not being able to get on the field so far during his short tenure with the Seahawks.

More Boling: He catches up with Sidney Rice, who’s ready to play after being rested during the preseason.

Richard Sherman writing for Sports Illustrated gives us an honest take on dealing with friend and teammates Michael Robinson getting cut.

Percy Harvin says on Twitter that he could be back by Week 7, after sitting out the first six weeks of the season on the PUP list.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that Chris Clemons got in a few pass rush snaps during individual work in the early portion of practice on Wednesday.

ESPN’s Terry Blount writes the Seahawks are managing high expectations as one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

Scott Fowler of The Charlotte Observer says Russell Wilson is looking forward to a return home to Carolina, where he played three years at N.C. State.

Joe Person of the Charlotte Observer writes that the Panthers secondary believes they can be just as physical as Seattle’s secondary.

ESPN’s David Newton says that Cam Newton appears to have a chip on his shoulder heading into his third season.

Bill Barnwell of Grantland picks Carolina as one of his ascending teams in 2013.

ESPN’s Mike Sando provides some key statistics in the matchup between Seattle and Carolina in this video link.

Bob Condotta of The Seattle Times writes that backup safety Chris Maragos decided to take a pay cut rather than test the market.

Peter Schrager of Fox Sports makes 10 bold predictions, including the Rams will be better than the Seahawks.

Rich Cimini of ESPN New York writes that the Jets are interested in bringing back Leon Washington. He worked out for the team on Tuesday.

Chris Wesserling of ranks the running backs. Adrian Peterson stands in a class by himself, while Marshawn Lynch settling in a group below Peterson.

Aaron Wilson of The National Football Report writes that along with Tyrone Walker, the Seahawks worked out receivers Martel Moore, Sammy Stroughter and Lamaar Thomas.

And with the NFL season kicking off tonight, ESPN’s Jeff Legwold and Jamison Hensley preview the Denver-Baltimore contest.

Morning links
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  1. montanamike2 says:

    Chris Maragos is more proof of rings and chemistry meaning more than money. I’m also glad Harvin is so excited to be here and give it his all.
    Last year when Minny was here he already made up his mind that the 12th man, RW and the difference between Ponder, plus a little nudge from Rice and Bevel would lead him to the promised land. The thought of RW, Lynch and Harvin together would give me nightmares if this wasn’t my beloved team.

  2. bird_spit says:

    Thank the football gods we have Russell and not someone like geno smith here. I guess thank John and company..

  3. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Peter Schrager gets paid to be wrong. What a great gig. Last year he said Russell Wilson wouldn’t make it in the NFL and now he has us finishing third behind the 9ers and Rams. He must get paid by the amount of bogus predictions he makes. Hey, when you’re wrong you’re wrong should be his tagline.

  4. yankinta says:

    Wow, thanks for that link bird_spit…,, I think all of the QB’s drafted this year will be Busts…. including Buffalo QB. That Buffalo FO will be gone in 2-3 years.

    btw, most of you that think negatively about Harvin are jumping to conclusion with very little knowledge. I won’t do that. I still absolutely love this deal to go after Harvin by our FO. They have much better knowledge than we do. We will know better after he’s been here for at least several months. So let’s watch and learn,, shall we??

  5. tealskin says:

    Schrager doesn’t get the Hawks but think he’s right on about the Rams. They’ve gotten better and Fisher is a good coach. It’s going to be a three-way, not two-way battle for the division this season.

  6. sluggo42 says:

    Yanker- you have such a way with words that just draws people to you!
    You’re so unique!

  7. sluggo42 says:

    Super Bowl teams get hundreds of links. Loser teams get 3-4 links. Unless they are the jets…

  8. sluggo42 says:

    They should just change the name of NFL am, to the Jets, all the time!

  9. WiscCory says:

    GREAT Lynch article. Kudos, Eric!

  10. yankinta says:

    sluggo42, thanks… :) I’m just trying to bring something new to the table and expressing my opinions…. not that anyone really cares what I think… :)

    tealskin, I’ve been wondering,, when’s the last time 3 teams from the same division made the playoff? Meaning 2 wildcard teams came out of one division…. has it ever happened??

  11. Seahawkfan78 says:

    Yes. In 2006, The Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants all made the playoffs from the NFC East. Also, in 2011, the Ravens, Steelers, and Bengals made the playoffs from the AFC North.

  12. yankinta says:

    so then,, all these so called experts that want to dismiss the possibility of NFC West having 3 teams in the playoffs are Wrong,, then. They’re saying it’s not possible because NFC West is so tough and they all have to play each other twice,, which would make this scenario very unlikely….

    I guess they may have a point, if NFC East in 2006 and AFC North in 2011 had a very weak 4th team in the division….because we do not have a weak team in our division this year…. plus we play against the NFC and AFC South which are decent divisions…

  13. Southendzone says:

    Thanks for the great story on Marshawn, reminded me why I bought his jersey last year and he’s still my favorite Seahawk!

  14. ChrisHolmes says:

    “so then,, all these so called experts that want to dismiss the possibility of NFC West having 3 teams in the playoffs are Wrong,, then. They’re saying it’s not possible because NFC West is so tough and they all have to play each other twice,, which would make this scenario very unlikely….”

    That’s not the only reason. There is a lot of good, rational thinking behind the Rams not making the playoffs.

    You get six teams. SEA and 49ers we figure are the better teams. I’d also go with GB, ATL, and then you have the East division winner. We know the East is going to put up a god division winner between WA, DAL and NYG. East could easily have a wild card.

    Let’s examine a couple other things here: Rams might be putting together a good team, but they are young at the skill positions and just gave up their best RB. Who is going to run the ball? And who is going to catch it? We all know – from years of watching this sport – that WR’s rarely make an impact the first year or two. Rams receivers are a young group. There will be pains.

    I like the Rams DL and all, but this is a team that is still devoid of talent in a lot of positions. Given the talent of other teams like the Saints, Cowboys, Giants, Redskins, Bears and Minnesota, I think there’s a real good probability that the Rams just don’t win enough games to even be in the Wild Card hunt in the final weeks.

    People are overrating the Rams because of Fischer. They’re still a year or two away from a personnel standpoint. Don’t get too excited about them. Sure, they’ll be a tough out – but I just don’t see a playoff run when the NFC is stacked with good teams. The Wild Card is going to be brutal this year.

    Let’s hope we have home field.

  15. yankinta says:

    ChrisHolmes, you made good points but I disagree with ATL winning the division. I’ve said months ago that they will not win the division this year and likely miss the playoff. Saints will win it.

    ATL was second-luckiest in league last year, after the Colts. I know a lot of people are high on them but I’m not.

    I also don’t completely agree on the RAMs, I think they have a chance to win 8 or 9 games. NFC East plays against NFC North and AFC West. I know AFC West is a joke right now but NFC North could be tough for NFC East. NFC East also play against some of our Division Opponents. I would think they lose the majority of those games.

    I know Rams have some questions but I love their Defense. Love their DL and CB group. I think they have a good chance to win 9 games.

  16. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I think Fisher is a pretty good coach, but also feel he is overrated in the results his previous teams have achieved. When he was with the Oilers/Titans, they only won five playoff games and he was there for what fifteen years-seventeen years? They posted a few 13-3 winning records, but didn’t get far in the playoffs after that except the one Superbowl year which they lost.

    He inherited a terrible Rams team and has made some great draft trades to acquire lots of picks. (Thanks Redskins….for helping build this team). The Rams are definitely moving upwards and pretty much stoned the 9ers last year and should have swept them. They got us once and will be another challenge this year.

    Based on his past, I’m just not 100% sold that he will take the Rams past us or the 9ers this year or next, but will provide another tough opponent in the NFC Best.

  17. montanamike2 says:

    The Rams are especially tough at home.

  18. I have no problem with Peter Schrager…I even like him. He doesn’t devote the time I do to being familiar with the Seahawks, and it’s likely he knows something I don’t about most of the rest of the league, so just because he doesn’t share my thoughts and has an opinion counter to mine doesn’t bother me. Chance to learn something.

    I like his pre-season long shot prognostications quite a bit, actually. He’s willing to think big against the grain instead of being 100% bandwagon. Gotta respect that.

  19. The Rams will always be known as the team who traded RG3…

  20. ChrisHolmes says:

    I doubt 9 wins gets a team into the playoffs this year in the NFC.

  21. That trade will haunt the Lambs for decades, I don’t care how many picks they got. RG3 isn’t Herschel Walker…

  22. dirtbiker_joey says:

    Here’s the way I see things shaking out (I know you have all been waiting very impatiently for the Joe Hall NFL 2013 season predictions):

    AFC Division winners:
    #1 seed: Baltimore
    #2 seed: Houston (they will finish with identical record as NE, but win the head-to-head tie breaker)
    #3 seed: NE
    #4 seed: Denver

    AFC Wildcards:
    #5 seed (wildcard 1): Indianapolis
    #6 seed (wildcard 2): Pittsburgh

    Now, for the conference we really care about, NFC division winners:
    #1 seed: GB (they will finish with an identical record as Atlanta, SF, and Seattle, but win the tiebreaker based on best conference record)
    #2 seed: Atlanta (beats out Seattle based on head-to-head win)
    #3 seed: Seattle (will win the division over SF with identical record, but win tiebreaker based on division record)
    #4 seed: NYG

    NFC Wildcards:
    #5 seed (wildcard 1): SF
    #6 seed (wildcard 2): Washington

    It’s a tough row to hoe, but the schedule isn’t doing us any favors this year.

  23. yankinta says:

    ChrisHolmes, I think you got it backwards…. in a tough conference,, lower number of wins will get you to the playoff,, because most teams beat up each other in the inter-conference games..

    In a weak conference like AFC, you are more likely to see 10 wins wild card teams….cuz good teams just rack up many wins against weak opponents.

  24. yankinta says:

    dirtbiker_joey,, I can’t do that entire league predictions because I don’t know a lot about those teams… All I know is the two luckiest teams from last year will not make the playoff. Colts and ATL. Grantland agrees with me but that article only came out this week and I’ve been saying this for months…. :)

  25. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Probably no surprise to most of us, but it’s official. Russell has been voted team captain by his teammates and will proudly wear the C on the front of his jersey. He’s been a leader on and off the field and we’re fortunate to have him leading our beloved Seahawks.

  26. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I don’t think Atlanta’s season had much to do with luck. They pretty much took it to us for three quarters in the playoff before we rallied yet still lost and then they took a large lead over another top, tough team in the 9ers and should have won that game. They have the best receivers in the NFL and outside of a possible suspect D, are one of the top 3-5 teams in the entire league. I’d rather be good than lucky and the Falcons are good.

  27. Wilson’s too short to be captain.

  28. MoSeahawk12 says:

    They made it a lower case c so it looks taller…

  29. MoSeahawk12 says:

    We’ll find out plenty about the Falcons on November 10th. Maybe Percy jumps in and helps our cause.

  30. Success is based solely on luck, just ask any loser!

    Put my vote down for Atlanta being a good team, not just lucky. Unless they’ve been lucky for how many years in a row in making the playoffs? Well, I’m sure they’ll just keep on being lucky then.

    I also think Indianapolis is a decent team. They benefited from a weak schedule last year, and everyone knows they had Luck (and weren’t just lucky). They may regress a bit this year, but I think we’ll see a good team as Luck continues to mature along with his team around him. Sounds like another team we all know and love.

  31. “They made it a lower case c so it looks taller”


  32. MikeFromNewJersey says:

    I think we should all just take it easy with these high expectations. We haven’t won a freaking thing yet, nothin will be easy and we’re going to have to earn everything. The harderst thing to do in sports is win when you’re suppose to win. Nobody will be taken us lightly this year and will be super jacked to play us.
    My last Seahawk memory was the Atlanta Falcons moving the ball 40 yards on 2 plays against our so called great defense. Im nervous as hell about this year because greatness is earned not given.

  33. yankinta says:

    MoSeahawk12 and Orrobb, I am only talking about the regular season. Atlanta was lucky in the regular season to get a home field advantage in the playoff. Below are the details :
    2012 Record: 13-3
    Pythagorean Wins: 11.0 (overperformed by 2.0 wins, second-luckiest in league)
    Record in Games Decided by Seven Points or Fewer: 7-2 (0.778, fourth-best in league)
    Strength of Schedule: 0.463 (fifth-easiest in league)
    Turnover Margin: Plus-13 (tied for fifth in league)

    I’ll give you a small taste of what I call LUCKY…. Matt Ryan played a home game last season and threw 5 Interceptions. 4 ints in the first half. still won the game 23 to 19. Tell me how that could happen without luck. :)

    Here’s another,, Cam Newton had beat them at ATL except something freaky happened at the last second and he fumbled the ball on his own. ATL won by 2 points. I call that Luck. Not being Good. :)

  34. MoSeahawk12 says:

    13-3 is far from luck. Winning close games is a indication of skill, talent and mindset. Look our our very own Seahawks. The games the team lost were all by less than 7 points. No blowout losses like in previous years.
    Would you call our wins lucky or because the team was good?

    Plus turnover is a direct result of hard work, tenacity and desire. Ask coach Carol what he thinks about turnovers. He preaches it every day. Win the turnover battle, win the game. Yes, sometimes the ball does bounce your way, but most times it’s because someone on D made a great play, laid a big hit or out worked another player. Luck has little to do with that.

    Ask Sherman if his eight interceptions were lucky.
    Being in the right position at the right time is a earned skill and requires lots of hard work and effort. Ask any football player how they feel about luck and they will laugh at you. Luck doesn’t win games. Preparation, talent and effort does.

  35. yankinta says:

    Dude, you don’t get it. smh….

  36. tealskin says:

    NJMike, Please don’t make me relive that experience. That was just bad luck.

  37. trout_hound says:

    Sherman isn’t a bad writer. That article reinforces the fact that even the players think cutting MRob was a big mistake. Maybe Pete thinks Russel W is the leader now. We know he’s the man, but MRob epitomized everything about what a Seahawk is as far as dedication and leadership. I wonder if he wouldn’t take a pay cut or they thought the Real Rob report was too much of a distraction? Maybe MRob took the last one too far when he didn’t edit Christine Michael rapping about smoking weed. That seemed pretty iffy, and a true team first guy probably should have edited that out. He probably left that in to teach the young buck his place as a rookie.

  38. MoSeahawk12 says:

    If “it” is you then you are correct. I wouldn’t be alone in that regard. At least you are a big fan of “it”. Rub “it” and luck together and you’ll come up with more brain numbing predictions, comments and me first proclamations. All part of your “it”.

  39. Hawkjitsu says:

    Yankita – Do you really believe throwing interceptions is “lucky” for the other team? If you said that to any DB, LB, S, or even DL, they would punch you so hard that your girlfriend dies. Nothing about an interception is luck. And Newton fumbling at the end of the ATL game? If luck was involved, then ATL would have scooped it up and returned it for a score. I think your using the word luck when you should be using the word mistake. No disrespect, though. I just would be smart enough to never say “that was lucky” to an NFL player.

  40. chuck_easton says:

    Everyone is entitled to yankster’s opinion. If you don’t agree you are uneducated sheep that blindly follow the talking heads.

    Just ask him…

  41. Hawkjitsu says:

    Unless the player was Mark Sanchez. He might come after me, but he’d twist his ankle or hurt his shoulder while doing so. Now THAT is lucky.

  42. yankinta says:

    Ok, show me another game where a team won in spite of throwing 5 interceptions….. It happened once and it will never happen again. That’s what I call Luck.

    They were lucky to play against fifth-easiest in league, that will not happen this year. That’s what I call Luck.

    If I have to explain what Luck means, then I guess I’m speechless… smh…

  43. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Speechless and you are strangers for sure.

  44. wazzulander says:

    I think yankinta is still getting some blow back from his crazy posts earlier in the year, I’m not sure whats so controversial here. Clearly winning by one possession or less involves more luck than winning by more than one possession. Just ask Green Bay. Getting an easy schedule is also fairly lucky. I think tying turnovers to luck is a bigger reach though.

  45. Seahawkfan78 says:

    what’s wrong with having luck in sports? The Seahawks had plenty of lucky plays.

  46. yankinta says:

    wazzulander,, no I never said getting turnovers is lucky. I’m saying winning after throwing 5 interceptions is lucky. Which is what Matt Ryan did against Arizona at home, last year.

    Why can’t these people read??

  47. MoSeahawk12 says:

    The only thing lucky about that game was they played the Cardinals.
    The Falcons D and special teams had to play that much harder to overcome those five interceptions.
    They made their own luck by out working the Cardinals and winning the game.
    Anyone that has played football will beat your luck with their effort and skill.
    Luck, losers and lame all start with L.

    Bart Starr must’ve been pretty lucky as well as he won a game despite five interceptions.

  48. Seahawkfan78 says:

    Some turnovers are just that. Luck… A ball gets tipped by several people and its a pick. A person (TE) falls down right when the QB throwns the ball into the arms of a DB. Luck… I even recall several people on here commenting on how “lucky” it was that W.Guy’s forced fumble was. My point is why are a few of you mad that someone said that Atlanta was lucky last year?

  49. MoSeahawk12 says:

    wazzulander, Yanker is getting blowback because he consistently lets everyone know how smart he is, how he’s always right and how most people here are too stupid to understand football. He insults the blog weekly and generally likes to argue. I’m guessing for the much needed attention. Wasn’t hugged enough I guess.

    Anyway, we all have opinions and the first game is only three days away. Finally.

  50. ” I’m saying winning after throwing 5 interceptions is lucky. Which is what Matt Ryan did against Arizona at home, last year.”

    That’s a tough one yankinta. I tend to focus more on the effort the rest of the team must have put out to overcome. You’re calling it luck and, it seems, stopping there. I see it as skill, prep, hard work, and the team having each other’s back.

    Strength of schedule is a difficult indicator of whatever the definition is of ‘luck’, because the process of winning a lot of games reduces strength of schedule more and more. If my math is correct, if the Falcons had gone 0-16, their SOS would have been .539, tied for third toughest(with 8 ‘quality opponents’).

    Authoritative statements about lucky teams are something I’ve learned to steer clear of.

  51. wazzulander says:

    WTF yankster, i was actually defending you… And YOU did reference turnover differential, in addition to the Matt Ryan game. So to answer your question, yes I can read.

  52. Southendzone says:

    I follow Yakinta’s source of that data (Bill Barnwell) pretty closely and there is validity to looking at the data that way.

    It’s not to say that getting any individual interception is lucky, but taken as a whole, turnover ratio has an element of luck to it. Example given above of the tipped pass that falls harmlessly to the turf, or is intercepted.

    Better example are fumbles vs fumbles lost. Remember Marshawn in the WA playoff game? Dropped the ball and scooped it right back up? Over the course of a season some teams are going to get the lucky bounce more often and you all know how important turnovers are, so those lucky bounces have a chance to equate to more wins.

    Now the next year you can’t go in expecting the team to have all those same lucky bounces. Sure if you have an elite cornerback you will get more INT’s than a normal team, but you can’t count on those extra ones that are from luck, or circumstance.

    That said I still expect ATL to be a strong team this season and actually mounting a semi-defense of Yakinta just made me throw up a little bit.

  53. yankinta says:

    lol, sorry, wazzulander. I didn’t mean you. I meant the earlier posts.

    Most of you don’t realize what happened in that game. Arizona played the Rookie from San Diego State in that game,, Ryan something. Otherwise, they would have beaten the ATL Hawks. Which is why ATL was Lucky to win that game. What are the chances that ATL would throw five picks and still win the game?? Almost none. that’s my point… but that’s just one of the examples…smh..

    Luck = something that happens in a blue moon, unlikely to happen again.

  54. MoSeahawk12 says:

    That’ll teach ya…..

  55. MoSeahawk12 says:

    ATL Hawks? Is this basketball now?
    Please at least get the names of the teams correct before you speak about how good or lucky they are.
    What’s your favorite word….oh yea amateur I believe.

    It’s the Seattle Seahawks and the Atlanta Falcons. The more you know.

  56. yankinta says:

    Southendzone, welcome to the minority side… :) hope you stay awhile… :)

  57. yankinta says:

    lol, sorry I’m eating and typing at the same time. I guess I can’t multi-task… :)

  58. yankinta says:

    WOW, love this quote by Bobby Wagner… I really hope Cam reads this and take the bait!!

    “We can’t let Cam run on us,” Seahawks middle linebacker Bobby Wagner said. “We want to make him try to beat us throwing, which I don’t think he can do.”

  59. SandpointHawk says:

    Hey yankinta have you signed up for Pigskin pick-em yet? You can earn bragging rights on the blog all next year as a grand prize win…

  60. SandpointHawk says:

    *As a grand prize winner or *with a grand prize win….your choice :)

  61. yankinta, are you a native English speaker? This is a serious question with no offense meant. I just have been wondering for awhile.

    Look, of course there’s an element of luck involved in football and every sport. But I don’t believe you finish 13-3 based primarily on luck. Nor do you make the playoffs consistently based on luck. Luck has a way of mostly evening out in the long run.

  62. Unless you’re the Indianapolis Colts; they will win because of Luck for many years!

  63. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Nice OrrObb!
    Of course he’s not even very good according to one.

  64. Clearly winning by one possession or less involves more luck than winning by more than one possession

    Then How many wins did the seahawks have that were luck or losses that were unlucky since a majority of our games have been decided by 1 score less – that makes our home team the most UNlucky team in the NFL – because aren’t our last like 3 seasons losses all by 1 score or less?

    “Most of you don’t realize what happened in that game. Arizona played the Rookie from San Diego State in that game,, Ryan something. Otherwise, they would have beaten the ATL Hawks. Which is why ATL was Lucky to win that game” . . . That is 100% pure speculation on your part – there is no way to prove that statement with your beloved stats

    What are the chances that ATL would throw five picks and still win the game?? Almost none. that’s my point… Or the fact that there were just a team that was sooo much more talented to the Cards that they could overcome those mistakes. The last time we waxed the Cardinals – it is conceivable that we could have still won that game with 5 TO’s since we were soo dominate that day (and since it is ok, by your standard to take personal conjecture as fact…)

    but that’s just one of the examples…smh.. keep shaking and pull it out of your Arce once in awhile. it’s usually not what you say but how you say it that gets you in trouble.

  65. yankinta says:

    I never said all 13 wins were by luck. I am only saying they maybe have had 9 wins or 10 wins with that easy schedule, without the extra luck.

    I think that’s enough about ATL, let’s wait and watch and learn, shall we??

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