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Morning links: New team, new role for Harper

Post by Eric Williams on Sep. 4, 2013 at 6:27 am with 58 Comments »
September 4, 2013 6:44 am

Seattle Seahawks' Chris Harper carries the ball as linebacker Malcolm Smith, right, defends during NFL football training camp, Saturday, July 27, 2013, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)
Seattle Seahawks’ Chris Harper carries the ball as linebacker Malcolm Smith, right, defends during NFL football training camp, Saturday, July 27, 2013, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

Good morning. Today is a regular Wednesday for game week, so we will have conference calls with Carolina head coach Ron Rivera along with a Panthers player this morning. Also, we’ll have injury updates on players from Pete Carroll’s press conference today.

Receiver Chris Harper, the Seahawks fourth round selection in this year’s draft, talked about his new role with San Francisco after the team signed the Kansas State product off of Seattle’s practice squad.

Harper said he’ll have to learn how to get into a 3-point stance for the first time, as the 49ers plan on using him as an H-back, similar to the way San Francisco used former tight end Delanie Walker.

“They put him all over the field,” Harper told reporters down in San Francisco. “And he’s a great athlete. You can see that on film. … He’s a big guy that can run.”

Gregg Rosenthal of ranks Russell Wilson the No. 8 quarterback in the league.

ESPN’s Terry Blount says to don’t expect the type of impact from this year’s rookies that the Seahawks received from last year’s class.

Danny O’Neil of 710 ESPN Seattle reads between the lines on Pete Carroll’s Monday press conference.

Clare Farnsworth of takes an early look at Carolina.

The Seahawks debut at No.1 in ESPN’s weekly power rankings.

Frank Schwab of Yahoo Sports places Seattle at No. 1 as well.

Five of the eight NFL experts at CBS Sports pick the Seahawks to beat Carolina this week.

Chris Burke and Doug Farrar of Sports Illustrated pick the Seahawks to win the NFC West.

Brian Billick of Fox Sports places the Seahawks at No. 3 in his NFL power rankings.

Greg Bedard of Sports Illustrated says the Seahawks moved Bruce Irvin to SAM linebacker with an eye toward defending Colin Kaepernick and the read option.

The Daily Meal names CenturyLink Field the best stadium for craft beer.

ESPN’s Herm Edwards places just two Seahawks among the top three at their position, Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman. You must be an ESPN Insider to view this.

Scott Fowler of the Charlotte Observer notes that the Panthers have the worst record in the league in season openers at 6-12 in 18 seasons.

Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the 49ers have brought in John Skelton for a tryout.

Jack Bechta of the National Football Post argues for changes in injured reserve rules. This is a good read if you have questions about how IR designations work.

Aaron Wilson of the National Football Post reports that Leon Washington worked out for the N.Y. Giants on Tuesday.

Morning links
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  1. chuck_easton says:

    Well I guess all is right with the world and the apocalypse isn’t coming any time soon.

    How do I know? I woke up to find the sun was indeed rising in the East, my son goes back to school today, and Pete Prisco has once again begun an NFL season by picking the Seahawks to lose.

    Yes, there are sure things in this world. Taxes must be paid, we are all eventually going to die, and Pete Prisco hates the Seahawks.

  2. HawkFromDay1 says:

    Boy do I hate these 10AM kickoffs on the east coast! Such a TRAP!

    Hopefully this team is too young and fired up to know about the insanely low winning percentage in such games.

    Would love to see a breakdown of Clay Matthews’ role at USC when he played SAM. I suspect it’ll be exactly how Irvin is used (also suspect Colin Kaepernik has nothing to do with it).

  3. sluggo42 says:

    Chuck, you forgot
    A birdie putt left short never goes in…

  4. Chuck, LOL. I don’t even bother clicking on any link that has Prisco’s name. I’m surprised, though, that Billick ranks the Seahawks so high. He usually has a low opinion of the Seahawks.

    So many of the national pundits have Wilson and Kaep ranked right next to each other. They can’t seem to decide between the two. Hopefully Wilson established himself as a Top Five QB this year or even — wishful thinking here — knocks Aaron Rodgers off that top perch.

  5. **establishes

  6. sluggo42 says:

    In the African wild there rages a never-ending war between the hyenas (49ers), and the lions (Seahawks)
    The hyena is always stealing lion food, and always nipping at their heels, and if they can separate a lion from the pack, they will try to kill them. They are ruled my the matriarch (Kaperneck) and very organized in their never ending yapping ways of thuggery.

    Every few years a young lion (Irvin) is groomed for the specific job of running down and shredding the matriarch, no matter how much interference the rest of the hyena pack tries to throw at the young beast. For this youngster has been raised with only one purpose in life, and when this chase begins, nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing can deter the inevitable ending. After the matriarch has been disposed of, the hyena pack is left in shambles and is virtually useless for the next 3-4 years…

    You have to love nature don’t ya?

  7. yankinta says:

    lol, I’ve been saying Andrew Luck was the LUCKIEST QB in the league and Colts were the Luckiest Team in the NFL last year, no one agreed with me. But just agreed/confirmed my belief this morning.

    Colts will not win 9 games this season and the Andrew Luck Hype will die by mid-season….let’s watch and learn, shall we? :)

  8. Impossible to argue with that proof. Andrew Luck is obviously garbage and will fade away into oblivion. Bill Barnwell and yankinta will be hailed as two of the wisest minds in football.

  9. dirtbiker_joey says:

    Thanks for taking the time to bash Andrew Luck; I was getting a little bored with all this discussion about the Seahawks.

  10. yankinta says:

    lol, I don’t think he’s garbage. I think he’s a good young QB but just not the Franchise QB (Top 5 or 10 QB in NFL) like ESPN is hyping him to be…. ESPN and National Media wants me to be blind but I just can’t help that I can see and use my own brain. :)

  11. seahawkNJ says:

    LMAO @ dirtbiker_joey & OrrObb….FTW!

  12. Dukeshire says:

    10am games are not a trap. It’s a known issue, or at least has been. Whether it continues to be an issue remains to be seen, but Carroll has done quite a bit to dispel the east coast nonsense.

  13. Dukeshire says:

    If you ever said they were lucky is buried under your “Luck is garbage” (paraphrase) posts. Don’t revise your views now.

  14. yankinta says:

    I agree but based on the last two 10AM games they played last year,, I am in the mode of, I’ll believe it when I see it. I hope Carroll has addressed it by starting practice early this off season… and I really hope that it will work. Sunday will be the most telling evidence…. :)

  15. yankinta says:

    Dukeshire, lol,, noped I have not changed my position at all. I’ve always said that Andrew Luck is average QB.

    Average = between Top 10 & Top 20.

    RW is a Top 5 QB. He will be a Top 3 QB soon.

  16. Sluggo, lol.

  17. Chris Harper – the most overly-reported fourth round draft bust ever.

    I should stop commenting about him now. Just feeding the nonsense.

  18. raymaines says:

    Ian Rapoport tweets: Interesting about #49ers WR Chris Harper’s contract: Niners guaranteed him $202K of this year’s salary, ensuring his roster spot. Bold.

    Why didn’t the 49’ers just claim him off of waivers when the ‘Hawks cut him rather than offering him a guaranteed roster spot after he cleared waivers and was signed to a practice squad?

  19. rramstad says:

    Ray, your question is rhetorical… the 49ers clearly are idiots. There is NO ADVANTAGE to failing to claim them the first time around, through the waiver process. All they did by waiting was to increase the possibility of other teams negotiating with him and him choosing to go elsewhere.

    (This isn’t fantasy football when you claim someone off waivers and are moved to the bottom of the list… the list is static, though it is updated once during the regular season, I think after game four or five, to reflect the standings at that point.)

  20. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Good to see Luck made his way back on a Seahawks board. It has been a couple of weeks so I guess it was time.

  21. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I was surprised to see our team practicing this afternoon. I thought they would be practicing early to match the start time of this weeks game. They did practice early a lot during training camp. Of course Pete knows way more than me, so I’ll assume they know what they’re doing.

  22. Hawks 31, Panthers 13. Why not. Go Hawks.

  23. jawpeace says:

    The other day I read somewhere that the Hawks are not ruling out resigning M. Rob later. Does any one know if they gave his number away to someone else? I think that could be a good clue on their future intentions.

  24. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Top ten is above average, as there are thirty two teams.

  25. forgive the typos, this was a quick transcript, but I couldn’t resist. Some good thoughts here from coach.

    Pete Carroll interviewed by Brock Huard and Danny O’Neil:
    3 September 2013

    Huard: What did they do? The undrafted rookie free agents: Bailey, Mayowa, Lotulelei. What did they do to make perhaps the best roster in football?

    Carroll: They all showed something early. They caught our eye, then continued to send the message that they could bring something special. Alvin Bailey, from the beginning, could pass pro on some of our better guys, maintain his body posture and balance, and showed an athleticism. As did Michael Bowie, even moreso, he showed he could hold up against the big guys. And when we got to games and they showed they could perform well, we looked for consistency. Stephen Williams is a great example. We kept giving him opportunities to show whether he could be a factor, and he won us over.

    O’Neil: Eight new rookies made the squad. Obviously that’s a huge boost. Is it tough to let go some of the veteran presence, Leon Washington and Mike Robinson, pro bowlers who you let go over this offseason?

    Carroll: We try to use all the wisdom needed, not just go from the heart only. John and his side of the building, they look at it one way, and the coaches look at it their way, and then John and I blend our thoughts together, and then we go. That’s why it takes us so long to make the decisions. Then we put the guys in the right situations on the field to confirm that we made the right decisions, and that’s what the last couple of weeks were about.

    Huard: As you sit here today, how does this group compare to the group that finished last season and went to Washington for a playoff game.

    Carroll: We are growing in experience. Russell played a whole football season and got to study it all offseason. Every snap he took [in preseason] he was in such an elevated mindset from where he was last season. And just imagine that across the board with all the young guys. Earl, Kam, Bobby, Turbin, there’s a lot of guys who are a lot smarter than they were. Physically we are not that much different, hopefully a little better. Mentally we are way down the road from where we were. What that comes out as is we make better choices and we are in the right place more of the time and so we are harder to beat.

    O’Neil: When last season ended, you were very clear that you needed pass rushers, plural. You did that in free agency with Michael Bennet and Clif Avril, you did it in the draft with Jordan Hill, and you even did it in training camp when you brought in O’Brien Schofield. Given the uncertainty with the injuries, are you confident that this pass rush will look different now?

    Carroll: I think a month from now it will. When you add the guys back in that we were counting on – we don’t have Bruce and Clem in there – when those guys are back in there in addition to the guys we’ve acquired, I think we should see an elevation of athleticism, of speed and savvy that is hard to replace. Fortunately, OB Schofield was a huge get for us under the circumstance that have occurred where Avril can’t go. He rushed for the Cardinals last year as a starting outside linebacker and nickel rusher. That was incredible for us, so the Leo position has been fortified. We are not there yet, we are not as good and we are gonna be. You are going to see some young guys, Morgan and Mayowa out there. Those guys are really fast, but they’ve never had the pressure on them to rush every snap of an NFL game.

    O’Neil: They’re going to be chasing one of the most unique players in the NFL in terms of size and speed in Cam Newton. After all you’ve been through at USC and Dan Quinn at Florida. Does that prepare you to take on Cam Newton and the Panthers?

    Carroll: We’ll find out. We’ve worked really hard to adjust to the ever-changing style of play. Cam is a phenomenal talent, right from his first games ever in the league. We have great respect for what he can do, and how they style their offense – its built around a physical running tough guy at quarterback. He is unique in his style, and hopefully we’ve matched it up with our guys.

  26. Pete Carroll – 3 September 2013 – Part II

    Huard: Before we get back to Cam and their front seven and how you attack them [Panthers]… It struck me this weekend we saw a game where Cal ran 99 plays. Danny was at Husky Stadium [Washington vs idaho] neither team huddled, and neither team took a snap from under center. Steve Sarkisian even wondered out loud, ‘what if I had done this back in the day with Reggie Bush and Lendell?’ That was a theme: I don’t want my players to think, I just want to play fast. What about this tempo, what about this pace? I know its different at this level with 46 instead of 85, but will this tempo ever affect football at this level?

    Carroll: What I was watching was the other team and how the defenses dealt with it. The fact that both teams were in full-speed tempo, race horse style, makes it exciting to watch. But what I saw is that the defenses were unaffected by it. As much as it seems like its revolutionary, as long as the defense can hang, it doesn’t matter. Boise and Washington practice against this every day, so I don’t think it affected the game at all. Its fun, its a cool thing, the shotgun is legit. How it affects our league depends on how the defenses adapt. I’ve said before, its no-huddle offense, its no-huddle defense. We can call the defense just as fast as they call the offense, there is no advantage to that. People think there is, but there isn’t. You don’t get simple, you can do everything you want to do, you just have to be schooled and prepared. Sometimes you can’t get the tempo unless you are practicing against it, but these teams do. Its fast, so you just get more football, and that’s cool.

    Huard: Coaches say to me “more games are lost than are really won. You make mistakes, special teams gaffes, in the first game of the season and you lose.’ Do you find the four preseason games really help, or does that carry through to the NFL?

    Carroll: That’s the history of the game of football, to me. Its why turnovers are the factor. You make huge mistakes, you lose. Its all based on that premise that you really do give games away, in the kicking game, on offense, on defense. So we work to get all of that out of our football first, and then you try and beat us. What’s happened in football in general, if you want my overview, is that with the growth of the quarterback position. In the old days if a guy threw the ball 50 times a game he’d have 5 or 6 picks. You don’t’ see that anymore. The commitment the expertise, the coaching of that position – you trust the quarterback position now. The problems aren’t as obvious as they used to be. So we’ve evolved to a better efficiency in the throwing game.

    Huard: the Mike Robinson cut, was that one of the most difficult cuts you’ve ever made?

    Carroll: Yeah. That was a big deal to us. Unfortunately we weren’t able to keep Mike at this time. Maybe we get a chance to get him back somewhere down the road, but at this time, that is the way that had to go. It was very difficult because he’s a great kid. He’s going to be a football coach someday. He’s a guy who has been in my office a lot talking about ball and schemes and we are very close. So it was very difficult.

  27. yankinta says:

    Well, I hope maybe we can get Mike Rob back at a minimum salary. Just not the 2.5 Mill a year…. And if Coleman and Ware are playing very well at that point, I hope they don’t lose their roster spot for Mike Rob.

  28. yankinta, I would expect this once MikeRob is healthy. And I think they’ve kept extra LBs like Lotu and/or Bradford who might be expendable to make room for MikeRob. The competition continues.

  29. rramstad says:

    I’d like to see them get MikeRob back, healthy, and pay him the 2.5 million just prorated for the games he plays, plus give him a bit of a signing bonus as an apology for the hassle. It’s totally understandable that the Seahawks couldn’t hold his roster spot for him and had to cut him so we could keep another guy on the roster — especially given all the issues with the defensive ends — he was unable to play but not injured which made his status frankly kind of weird. Hell, give him a two year cap friendly deal, if he’s amenable, once he’s healthy.

  30. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Stevos- If Robinson does come back (and I doubt he will), it will be Coleman or Ware making room for him imo.

  31. MikeRob’s number 26 is still available. Sherm is #25 and WT3 is #28, and all the numbers in-between are available.

  32. Southendzone says:

    Awesome Sherman article. We know how upset we feel as fans when a favorite player gets cut, but hearing the perspective of a teammate really adds something.

    From that, you really feel like the leadership aspect of M.Rob is 100% legit, it’s not fabricated at all, his teammates really respect the guy.

  33. yankinta says:

    Stevos, are you suggesting we keep 6 RB’s on roster? I don’t see it. Tim Ruskell might do that but JS/PC would never do that….

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Okung, Wagner, Sherm and Thomas get some love here.

  35. Coleman could lose his job to MikeRob, or Ware could. Or Lotu or Bradford could be replaced by MikeRob the ST Captain, since those guys are really special teams players and aren’t likely to play LB this year. I’d guess at least one of our current LBs and one of our current RB/FBs won’t finish the year on the 53. The competition will continue.

  36. Georgia – thanks. I love those Danny O’Neil ‘reading between the lines’ comments.

  37. I’m sure the most passionate haters will continue to find a way – but not sure how fans around the league are going to continue to dislike Sherman if he keeps writing such intelligent and articulate pieces like the one on MikeRob.

    Sure hope Pete and John made the right call on this one.

  38. Dukeshire says:

    yankinta – You are changing your take if you’re now saying he’s “lucky”. That’s a big difference.

  39. Dukeshire says:

    That was a great piece by Sherman. I look forward to reading him throughout the season.

  40. sluggo42 says:

    For a second yank, I was glad to see ya back…

  41. yankinta says:

    Dukeshire,,, ummm nope. I always said he would not be considered one of the top Young QB along with RW, RG3 and CK,, except he was lucky. Imagine if he really threw 30 Interceptions in 2012, Would the colts really win 11 games? Would he be in the conversation with RW, RG3 and CK? Or Would he be more, in the conversation with Brondon Weeden and Ryan Tannehill??

    That’s what I call Lucky,, hope that makes sense…. :)

    btw, he did throw 30 interceptions (worse than Weeden’s 28 int’s),, except he played against the worst teams and those CB dropped obvious interceptions….

  42. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Also had eight fourth quarter comebacks…..that’s more than luck. But enough about Luck. Until next week.

  43. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Duke, it’s a never ending conversation. He’s never wrong.

  44. MoSeahawk12 says:

    well, you know….

  45. Dukeshire says:

    yankinta – No actually, that doesn’t make sense. If you’re saying his ability will not allow him to be considered a “top” QB, that’s one thing. If you are saying he is lucky, that is another.

  46. Dukeshire says:

    MoSeahawk12 – Point well taken.

  47. yankinta says:

    Dukeshire,, I see where you’re confused. I’m saying he won’t be lucky anymore,, at least not as lucky as he was in 2012.

    This would mean, we will get to see what he can truly do, based on his true ability. Based on what I’ve seen (all his games in his last year at Stanford, and his rookie season),, he does not have ability to become a top 10 QB in the NFL.

    Hope now that this makes sense. Again, this is just my opinion. I’m not JAWS or anything so I don’t have a cult following and believing everything I tell them. :)

  48. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Yanker a day ago- I like Mike Rob but I don’t think many people realize he only played a third of the total snaps last year. His contribution to our success is overrated. His leadership is also overrated. We have RW and that is more than enough, since RW is once in a lifetime QB Leader for us Seahawks Fan!!.

    I wish Mike Rob is still with us, but if the FO didn’t cut him, I would think a little less of them,, but what can I say, our FO is the REAL DEAL. They do all the right things. I’ve been waiting for us to build a Dynasty since the day I moved to Seattle and became a Football Fan. :)

    Yanker Today- Well, I hope maybe we can get Mike Rob back at a minimum salary. Just not the 2.5 Mill a year…. And if Coleman and Ware are playing very well at that point, I hope they don’t lose their roster spot for Mike Rob.

    So the FO possibly bringing him back at reduced salary would keep you from thinking less of them? I’m sure he would still be overrated by your logic?

    Is Luck lucky or garbage? So much to ponder……

    Season starts tomorrow.

  49. yankinta says:

    MoSeahawk12, yes I would think less of them,, if FO brings him back at 2.5 mil or kept him at 2.5 mil (highest paid FB in NFL). Only because he played less than 33% of the snaps less year and we were still 3rd best running team. I like his toughest a lot!! I always did!

    He is overrated because most people think he’s essential to our Running game. The fact is he wasn’t last year. That’s why I say he’s overrated. But again, I like him as a player, wish he’s still with us. but not at that price tag, when we’re trying to extend Richard Sherman and other Essential pieces to build a Dynasty.

  50. MoSeahawk12 says:

    For GeorgiaHawk and other beer lovers here.

  51. SandpointHawk says:

    You want great beer in Seattle go to Pike Street Brewery. Water my A$$…As the cold weather sets in it’s 5X Stout for this boy…

  52. I’m installing a yanker blocker on this blog tomorrow.

  53. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Thanks MoSeahawk12.

  54. MoSeahawk12 says:

    I thought the water selection for us was kinda stupid as well. Better than some of the fruity beers that were listed for some of the other teams I guess.

  55. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Stevos, you’d make a fortune with that. Do you take cash or credit?

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