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Morning links: Reaction to Hawks 22-6 win

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 30, 2013 at 8:48 am with 96 Comments »
August 30, 2013 8:49 am
Seattle Seahawks' Walter Thurmond, left, makes a one-handed interception of a pass intended for Oakland Raiders' Jacoby Ford (12), right, in the first half of an NFL preseason football game on Thursday, Aug. 29, 2013, in Seattle. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)
Seattle Seahawks’ Walter Thurmond, left, makes a one-handed interception of a pass intended for Oakland Raiders’ Jacoby Ford (12), right, in the first half of an NFL preseason football game on Thursday, Aug. 29, 2013, in Seattle. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

Good morning. Roster cuts don’t have to officially be in until Saturday, but players could begin to get notified today. So we’ll post news the moment we hear rumblings of player cuts coming out of the VMAC today.

But for now, here’s a spin around the web on reaction from the Seattle Seahawks 22-6 win over Oakland in the team’s final preseason game of 2013, upping their winning streak to nine straight in exhibition games, dating back to 2011.

My game story focuses on the promising play of two players long on talent but short on production, cornerback Walter Thurmond and offensive lineman James Carpenter.

Rapper Calvin Broadus, Jr., also known as Snoop Dogg, and Snoop Lion, mugs for a camera as he wears the #24 jersey of Seattle Seahawks' Marshawn Lynch on the field prior to an NFL preseason football game between the Seahawks and the Oakland Raiders, Thursday, Aug. 29, 2013, in Seattle. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)
Rapper Calvin Broadus, Jr., also known as Snoop Dogg, and Snoop Lion, mugs for a camera as he wears the #24 jersey of Seattle Seahawks’ Marshawn Lynch on the field prior to an NFL preseason football game between the Seahawks and the Oakland Raiders, Thursday, Aug. 29, 2013, in Seattle. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

Meg Wochnick of The Olympian gives us an update on Zach Miller’s performance in his first preseason game of 2013. It also includes a tidbit on Snoop Dogg’s appearance at CenturyLink Field.

Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes about longtime Seahawks scout Derrick Jenson, who is battling Lou Gehrig’s disease. Jensen raised the 12th Man Flag on Thursday.

Check out highlights and stats from the game here.

Clare Farnsworth of wraps up the game here, focusing on Steven Hauschka’s impressive performance.

ESPN’s Terry Blount notes that Stephen Williams has 10 days to pass his concussion test and get back on the field for the season opener at Carolina.

Danny O’Neil of 710 ESPN Seattle hones on the strong preseason performance of Walter Thurmond.

Curtis Crabtree of KJR-AM has fullback Michael Robinson getting released in his 53-man roster projection for the Seahawks.

Field Yates and Mike Reiss of ESPN Boston project Leon Washington getting cut by the Patriots. If that happens, I think there’s a possibility he lands back in Seattle.

Ryan O’Halloran of The Florida Times-Union projects former Seahawks Kyle Knox and Will Blackmon making Jacksonville’s final roster.

Matt Maiocco of reports that Seneca Wallace is out in San Francisco.

Jerry McDonald of The Bay Area News Group writes that Terrelle Pryor’s ho-hum performance against the Seahawks opens the door for Matt Flynn to start the team’s season opener.

Joe Fortenbaugh of the National Football Post gives us the low down on how to survive NFL survivor pools.

Pete Prisco of CBS Sports writes that read option quarterback should be prepared to get hit in his preseason wrap.

Doug Farrar of Sports Illustrated ranks Russell Wilson No. 14 in his reviews of the top 32 quarterbacks in the league. Aaron Rodgers tops the list.

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  1. grizindabox24 says:

    Eric, who would the Hawks release to sign Leon?

  2. Really interesting to think of Leon possibly coming back. In an interview awhile back, Carroll said of any guys he’s lost, he missed Leon the most. If they got him back at minimum salary, that could be sweet. Trouble is, another RB or WR/KR would lose a roster spot. And, if Belichick didn’t want him, maybe he’s done.

  3. Does Leon Washington have anything left? I don’t see them bringing him back unless it’s for the veteran minimum.

  4. grizindabox24 says:

    pabs, even at the minimum, I do not see where he would fit in

  5. rramstad says:

    The QB article is laughable. Flacco at 5? Romo at 9?

  6. tealskin says:

    Great guy but the Hawks have moved on.

  7. My ‘reaction’ to the preseason overall would be this:

    Points allowed over 4 preseason games:
    Seahawks: 36
    FortyNiners: 43
    Redskins: 53
    Bengals: 63

    This demonstrates something about depth of defensive roster, I think. Beyond that, judging the preseason is pretty subjective. The Packers only scored 36 points in preseason, and gave up 71. Broncos allowed 104 points. Yet I’m sure these teams are not that bad.

  8. Dave Wyman made a good point this morning that I think we forget sometimes. Decisions coaches are making on players right now are based on watching the tape compiled from every practice, not just a few preseason game plays. The guys who got the job done and improved day in and day out during practice, and put it on tape, are the guys making the 53. Making a few plays in the game might not be enough. See: Moffitt, John.

  9. ChrisHolmes says:

    First thought: Russel Wilson 14th? Ridiculous. Given his age, about the only guy on that list I’d want over RW would be Rogers.

    Second: A lot to like in the game last night (Thurmond’s INT was so athletic) but the OL play really disappointed. You could see the frustration on Micahels’ face – there was no place to run. I understand the backups were in, but those guys have to start making some holes. Cable looked perplexed a lot of the time. They have to get that right for the regular season. We’re going to have a hard time running the ball if we’re constantly having trouble even getting back to the LOS.

    Third: I love the attitude of this defense… You watch those kids play, they are all enthusiastic missiles of human destruction. It’s just a joy to watch.

    Fourth: Irving running down Prior made me smile. Big. I sure love his speed. If he learns that position… he’s going to be a serious force at LB. His speed is just astounding.

    Fifth: Loved all the bootlegs and play action last night. The 3rd and short calls were nice. Jackson is a good backup. I hate him as a starter, but as a backup the guy is solid. Just don’t ask too much of him. Hopefully we never need to see him on the field doing anything other than taking a knee.

    This is going to be a fun year. Full of promise.

    We just gotta block.

  10. Rockyseahawk says:

    Very excited about a healthy Carp. That guy looks like a beast when he has been in there.

  11. So very happy to see Carp make it through the game. That is my biggest takeaway….i was worried he would not make it out healthy, or at least dinged up. so far it looks good. The o-line will be much improved if he can stay healthy all year. Fingers crossed. BTW, thank god preseason is over! Go Hawks!

  12. RDPoulsbo says:

    Great article Eric, but what’s with this:
    “Seattle’s first round selection in 2011, Carpenter finally looked healthy and had a couple pancake blocks before tiring late in the opening half.”

    I’ve made it plenty clear I don’t like Carp, but tired by halftime? Yes, he’s been injured and he’s constantly injured but he was supposed to have come into camp the most in shape he’s ever been. They’ll probably keep him since his contract is fully guaranteed, but I’m not expecting much.

    I don’t think QBs getting hit running the read-option is going to happen as much as it did last year. There’s a reason why it works in the NFL as opposed to other option type plays. QBs read the DE before deciding what to do. If he stays home, then the ball goes to the RB, the DE is out of position and no need to fake. If DCs are telling their guys to hammer away, that’s going to be some costly penalties going against them.

  13. Jackson looks like he has learned to be more patient, and yet to bail when standing in the pocket too long…perhaps he’s learned from RW’s example? Regardless, I no longer hate him as a starter; we could compete for a title with him. That said, Thank God for RW, and I hope he plays for 17 years with no major injuries!

  14. chuck_easton says:


    Carp saw his first game action after being out for several weeks. You telling me all the starters could have gone a full half in the first pre-season game without looking tired at the end?

    IF Carp can stay healthy, I’m guessing he’s the starting LG no later than the SF game. He has said he much prefers the left side of the line to the right side. He said he loves being at guard between Okung and Unger. Now the only question is if he can avoid the injury situation.

  15. The Pats have waived TE Jake Ballard. His rehab must not have gone as well as they hoped. Perhaps the Giants put in a claim for him, since they were so pissed the Pats claimed him last year. I hope he does go back to the Giants, and plays well. That would be truly funny if he went back, the Pats paid to rehab him for a year, and the Giants got him back for free and he played well.

    But as bad as the Pats TE situation looks, Ballard must have lost more than a step to get cut. Sad.

  16. I think its pretty clear that RW is a top-10 QB in the NFL, and rising. But he’s been quiet in the preseason, and with Harvin’s injury, suddenly the fickle media and non-Seahawk fans are singing our doom. Which is stupid. We’ve gotten better even without Harvin, and we did just fine without him last year.

    Just wait till RW leads us to 4 straight wins, and we whup the Niners. THEN he’ll be back on’s front page just like he was all offseason. But the East Coast/Cali Bias is strong, it will take a couple impressive wins before they pay attention again.

    And the first bad game RW has, there will be a chorus of “Sophomore Slump for RW” from the d-bag media types…

  17. Southendzone says:

    Carp did look really good last night. Awesome to see someone on the line pushing people out of the way. Seeing him with the #1’s, I feel like we could expect our running game to be as strong as ever.

    If you were going against the Hawks as a DC, wouldn’t you try a lot of what OAK did last night? Load up against the run and make SEA pass on you? That scenario combined with a strong pass rush is my Seahawk nightmare.

  18. Tarvaris Jackson looks like he has a good offensive line in front of him, receivers who know their routes, and is healthy enough to trust his arm.

    None of those things were true last time he was a Seahawk. He was the same player then as now. He’s good, but needs a decent team in front of him. The offense he was asked to lead at the start of 2011 was crap. This offense makes a QBs job much easier.

  19. Carlsonkid says:

    RDPoulsbo , I’m with you ; Carpenter is “long on talent” ?! I must be missing something , I haven’t seen that yet , and in fact I’m fairly disappointed in the entire O-line’s play this preseason . Both RW and T-Jack have had inferior blocking in front of them most of the time . Sweezy scares the hell outta me and I didn’t see a whole lotta holes for Christine Michael to run through either last night . Cable has himself voiced his displeasure on occasion ..

    As we pat ourselves on the back and revel in national pundits prognostications , lets not forget that football games are won and lost in the trenches , and other than Okung and Unger , our offensive AND defensive lines haven’t exactly lit it up this preseason . It’s been pretty vanilla so far , but now other teams start to game-plan for you and exploit your weaknesses . I still see 12 wins , but that doesn’t mean there’s not chinks in the armour .

  20. I though Carp looked good, but maybe not ready to start just yet.

    Learning to play O line in the NFL takes a long time for most players. Even for the good ones. I thought Carp looked lost on his first few plays last night. Later in the game he was in step with his LT and C and he was steamrolling people. He’s got all the physical tools. He just needs lots of reps before he’ll be consistent, same as anyone else.

  21. sluggo42 says:

    Carp was tired…. Uh ya.. So? Your point?

    Any releases yet?

  22. At what point is it the coaching and not the players? The OL is again NOT ready week 1. This dates back before Cable’s time, but these are ALL his guys – either picked up or resigned during his tenure (Okung might be the exception) we shouldn’t have to start at step 1 every season. There should be some carry over from one season to the next

  23. Stevos–T-Jack was playing with many backups last night, esp on the line. No Unger, and likely no Okung, as well as the rest. He also had only backups RB’s and backup WR’s this time out. Sure, our backups are better than most, but they are still backups for a reason.

    Jackson seemed to sense pressure better than he has before, and to avoid the sloppy overthrows that plagued him. No picks either! I’d say he’s improved. Perhaps its that the pressure is off.

    I think any qb needs a good team around them. Even Elway, great as he was, struggled for years trying to carry a mediocre team on his back. Favre did the same for years after his last SB win; he played well, but couldnt win the big game all by himself. Few qb’s are that great, if any.

    Not saying T-Jack is a great qb, but I am very pleased he’s our backup. Could you imagine the player mutiny that would happen if they cut him?!

  24. xc, I agree with that. Listening to the players lately (Okung and Unger interviews recently) they think they are way ahead of where they were early last season. I think we need to see them in game one before we’ll know. I agree with you they should be much better than last Sept. Maybe I’m a homer, but I’m looking forward to watching them shred Panther’s D line next week.

  25. tealskin says:

    If opposing defenses stack the line like Oakland did, RW is going to kill them passing. Think they did that out of desperation seeing as how talent-poor thay are.

  26. How about Jermaine Kearse?! I gotta say, I told you guys time and again the kid had major promise, and now he’s starting to show it. Pretty cool to find this kid as an UDFA!

    Steven Williams looked really out of it after his catch, the bomb where the back of his head bounced off the ground. Hope he can play week one!

  27. STTBM. True. Our 2s playing with Jackson are pretty good this year.

    When talking about 2011, I’m thinking back to Seattle vs Pittsburgh, game 2, Sept 2011. Watch that one again sometime if you have it. Pitts D line was totally bitch-slapping our O line, and Jackson was a sacrificial lamb. Last night, our 2s were clearly better than Oakland’s 2s. The whole team is vastly better.

  28. sluggo42 says:

    Seems to me that if cable was the greatest line coach in the game, we wouldn’t have such a weak line. However, I’m not so sure that the bad guys aren’t just stacking and crashing 8 or so every snap. Seems a screen or two would help that.
    That probably won’t happen to RW as he probably will hit the quick slants with Tate baldy and rice and zack.

    With all the starters, beast, Carp, etc, the bad guys will have no choice but to stack it up.

    I honestly think we have been so vanilla in preseason that we will just roll come next week. It’s going to be great. But, SF is going to be just the same. It’s gunna be a serious dogfight, and it may come down to coaching and play calling.

  29. Dukeshire says:

    With how well Kearse and Thurmond looked returning kicks/punts this preseason, I’d be surprised to see Washington back in Seattle. Especially with them having a strong 3 deep RB group already.

    I’m interested to see if Seattle’s d line runs that “neutral” front they’ve been showing in preseason: each DT lined up as a 2 gap over the guards, or in 3-tech, with no NT. That’s been interesting to watch.

  30. FleaFlicker says:

    I think E maybe right in calling a release of Antoine Winfield. Thurmond looked great last night.

    And how about Haushka? Getting it done!

  31. Even J.Lane had a better avg at KO returns than LW did this preseason. I’d rather have LW return punts than Tate, but not WT3.

  32. grizindabox24 says:

    Think the Hawks keep Winfield. Who would play the slot if Thurmond gets hurt……..better to keep both options

  33. Know it’s only preseason, but Hauschka ranks 1st among kickers and Ryan 8th among punters, and Lotulelei and Coleman are tied for 3rd among STers in the NFL.

  34. Duke, I was thinking the same thing last night. Were they running those fronts (including some of what I thought really looked like a 3-4) because of injuries, or just to practice specific skills, or will we see that alignment come next week?

    Are we going to get more defensive schemes blogging from Dukeshire this year?

  35. rramstad says:

    I’m not buying the “weak line” stuff.

    The Packers were blitzing like it was a playoff game. The Seahawks have had a mix of guys on the OL and blitz pickups are all about trusting the other guys to make the right read, and making the right read yourself. The Seahawks did not have a full complement of hot checkdowns available either as they had a mix of receivers and backs out there.

    Oakland was fundamentally unsound in their defensive approach. We had bubble screens open over and over against them. That’s an easy play for us, and something we should be able to do in our sleep, for eight to fifteen yards every time. We did execute this play well. Basically as soon as our play calling adjusted to the defensive scheme, we were gashing them. I expect that we were running the ball precisely to see how our offensive line and running backs would respond to that adversity — not because we thought it would actually work.

    Long story short, I have no fear, at all, of our ability to make short passes when the opponent stacks the box and / or blitzes, assuming that we have full play calling capability and have the hot reads and check down plays sorted out with the receivers.

    Now, that said, I do think that’s the best defensive strategy. You don’t want to let Lynch start running with confidence. You want him to have one of those 17 carries for 40 yards type of games, and force the Seahawks to beat you with a patient short passing game. That is the recipe to beat us, and so it shouldn’t surprise us to see other teams trying it in the preseason, with varying amounts of success.

  36. grizindabox24 says:

    Huard said the Hawks were running a lot of 3-4 due to injuries

  37. My 53 projection before looking at Eric’s:

    Offense: 25

    QB- 2 RW and TJack

    RB- 5 Beast, Turbin, Michael, Mike Rob, and Coleman (I think Coleman sticks due to the illness situation with Mike Rob and Coleman being more prepared to play FB than Ware)

    WR- 5 Rice, Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, and Williams.

    TE- 3 Miller, Willson, and McGrath

    OL- 10 Okung, Carp, Unger, McQ, Giacomini, Sweezy, Jeanpierre, Bailey, Bowie, and Person

    Defense: 25

    DL- 9 Avril, Bennett, Red, CC, Mayowa, Hill, Mebane, Howard, and McDaniel (CC still hasn’t been placed on the regular season PUP list. If he is then I see Morgan sticking until Irvin comes back)

    LB-6 Wagner, KJ, Smith, Bradford, Schofield, and Farwell

    CB- 6 Sherm, BB, Thurmond, Winfield, Maxwell, and Lane

    S- 4 ET, Kam, Maragos, and Johnson.

    ST- 3 Hauschka, Ryan and Gresham

    Potential PS: RB Ware, WR Harper, LB Lotuleilei, SS Guy, QB Matt Scott, WR/FB Bates, TE Fells, and DT Brooks

  38. chuck_easton says:

    24 hours (or less) and we will have the answers.

    We all have our favorites. We all have one or two underdogs we’re pulling for.

    The simple fact is there are more than 53 guys that deserve to be on the final roster. Somebody is going to get cut that coulda/shoulda been kept simply because there aren’t enough spots to go around.

    I also think there will be a suprise cut or two specifically for financial reasons. As well I think the team might have to let somebody go that they really wanted to keep, but the D line injury situation requires that one lucky player will be kept on DLine that was slated to be cut.

    I look back at Kellen Winslow last year. They would have kept him but he refused to take a pay cut. I could envision there are a few guys being called into JS’s office today that are being given the option of pay restructure or release. As we saw with Lofa, sometimes pride won’t let the player take less money. In Lofa’s case 0 ended up being a lot more less than what Seattle was asking him to take.

  39. LaMichael James is expected to miss 3 games with a strained MCL suffered last night – changes the running game for them a little early in the season

    The other guys they have are decent but not as good as Gore/James offer

  40. Good post, Chuck.

    “I don’t think QBs getting hit running the read-option is going to happen as much as it did last year. There’s a reason why it works in the NFL as opposed to other option type plays. QBs read the DE before deciding what to do. If he stays home, then the ball goes to the RB, the DE is out of position and no need to fake. If DCs are telling their guys to hammer away, that’s going to be some costly penalties going against them.”

    This just isn’t true, at least about the penalties. They were interviewing one of the people that oversees officiating on one of the preseason games Thursday on NFL Network I believe. If the QB is in a read-option stance, i.e. shoulders parallel to the LOS, then he receives ZERO QB protection. It is only when he clearly declares a throwing position, i.e. shoulders perpendicular to the LOS that he receives that protection while in the pocket. Players can drill the QB in a read-option stance if they choose to.

    Time will tell, but I think a number of teams will tell the DE to just go nail the QB. Baltimore did it in the SB, though they let Gore get free due to this. Jared Allen said that they were just going to nail the QB. He said that teams just weren’t going to allow their QBs to take hits like that. Time will tell.

    Speaking of penalties, looks like all the hand wringing about the new RB crown rule was much ado about nothing. Did it even get called once in preseason, where you’d think they’d emphasize it? I didn’t see or hear of it being called.

  41. freedom_X says:

    With Matt Leinart bombing out in Buffalo, perhaps Buffalo will come calling and give a 7th rounder for Quinn.

    James Carpenter is the one guy on the line who has the sheer power to blow people off the line. If he stays healthy, he can go head-to-head with the best run-stuffing tackles and move them off the line. Seattle doesn’t have anyone else really who can do that. Combined with adequate mobility to be a decent if not great pass protector, that’s the talent.

    I’d love to see a healthy Carpenter take on Darnell Dockett on a straight-ahead run play and plant Dockett’s head into the Fieldturf.

  42. I wonder who from another team that the hawks will claim or try and sign to the PS – they have done this before so it wouldn’t surprise me at all. I like to see how they are watching other games during the PS – probably watching guys they had on their draft list to see if they still fit

  43. chuck==with Lofa, it was more that he was going to be relegated to a backup spot, which he refused–not simply about the money. The Hawks told him they were going with The Heater Hawthorne at MLB, and he would only play as a reserve.

    nate–Bowie may end up on IR. I could see them keeping only 9 O-lineman if they do that. I also think with the injuries on the D-line, they keep Clinton McDonald. Plus he’s an awesome teammate and leads by example by outworking everyone except RW. I also think Farwell gets cut. They will stick with Smith and Morgan, IMO, as they are younger and cheaper.

    Also, Jeron Johnson did not play well all preseason, IMO, and could get the ax.

  44. xcman, I assume that they go after a PS eligible QB.

    “Oakland was fundamentally unsound in their defensive approach. We had bubble screens open over and over against them. That’s an easy play for us, and something we should be able to do in our sleep, for eight to fifteen yards every time. We did execute this play well.” -rramstad

    Completely agree. Oak was simply selling out versus the run. They got burned by the PA.

    Though I get the consternation, I don’t see how someone can say for sure that the OL isn’t ready? It’s preseason. The starting unit looked fine to me in the one drive they played yesterday. Let’s wait until at least Sept. 8th at around 1:15-1:30 pm PST to crap our pants about the o-line.

  45. xcman–I dont think you will see Seattle pick up more than one or two guys–they have the strongest roster in FB right now. If they see a real upgrade, or a good player at a position of need (DT, FB?, backup SS) they may take a look, but you have to take into account that these potential/hypothetical players wont have the benefit of training camp/preseason with us, so that lessens their value for a team stacked with talent like Seattle.

    Its more likely that many of our guys end up on the roster in NY, Jax, and Oakland.

  46. STTBM, I think that Rishaw Johnson sticks if Bowie goes to IR.

    Johnson is competing with Guy, who didn’t play well for much of the preseason. Johnson played before Guy in the games. Guy was playing against 3’s. I was pulling for Guy coming into TC, and it certainly wouldn’t shock me if he stuck over Johnson. I have no idea what the coaches saw in practice and on the tape. I have to choose someone though when making the prediction. I certainly don’t expect to get them all right.

    I went back and forth with Harwell and Morgan. Harwell is the ST captain. That’s his only chance to stick. I think Bradford is the backup MLB. Again, had to make a guess. ST are habitually under valued here.

    McDonald could certainly stick. Depends on the health of Hill and McDaniel as well. Obviously I don’t know about that. I basically chose Howard over McDonald. It looked like Howard played better to me and would be approx. 750 K cheaper. I see them trying to save money in places like this rather than Winfield or Mike Rob.

  47. Hawkjitsu says:

    The SeaJax JagHawks. It’s almost like saying, “Hey Gus. Your our new coach. But you have to bring as many cast-offs from your old team as possible. And since you were in Seattle, then we should get some excellent players!”

    I know it happens everywhere, but I guarantee at least a few of the guys we cut will START somewhere else. And not only that, they will more than likely thrive. It’s like watching somebody steal all the B-squad strippers from your favorite place, and replacing them with Tara Reid’s.

  48. Any projections on potential trades of our cuts? With our depth, it seems that some teams without a strong waiver claim position might be willing to trade a 7th for one of our corners, for example.

  49. chuck_easton says:

    Anybody tuned into the whole twitter universe? That seems to be the primary method of getting the latest info. Usually from the player (or former player) themselves.

    I finally learned how to text with my teenager, and how to create my facebook account so I could have a glimpse into what he’s doing with his life.

    Now I have to learn how to tweet? Do people really have so little to do with their day that they need to tell the world what they just had for lunch, that they chose the blue shirt over the green, that they are thinking about going to see a movie, what they just accomplished in the washroom and how proud they are of it?

    God, I’m becoming my father…

  50. “but you have to take into account that these potential/hypothetical players wont have the benefit of training camp/preseason with us, so that lessens their value for a team stacked with talent like Seattle.”

    Completely agree, STTBM. People forget to take that into account sometimes. This isn’t 2010 either. I could certainly see them go after a player or 2 for PS, particularly a QB. A DL for the 53 is a possibility I guess if the injuries are worse than advertised. CC also adds a wrinkle. I’m guessing that they think he would be ready before week 7 so they don’t want to PUP him, but I can’t imagine him contributing much week 1. This could be important if people like Avril, Mebane, etc. can’t go.

  51. Hawkjitsu says:

    Twitter is easy, bro. Sign up, and then get the info. You don’t have to tweet. Just follow the guys you want the info on and your set.

    P.S. – I HATE it. But it’s good info.

  52. doubledink says:

    only attention whores, Chuck.

  53. Chuck, I personally don’t like or get most of the crap on Twitter, but I have relented and signed up due to news from players and reporters. And I was born in the 1980’s. I’m all for new technology for the most part, but I don’t need to know what you had for breakfast or what you thought of the Bachelor last night.

  54. Chuck, and it’s the Twitterverse or Twittersphere if you want to sound like you’re in the know. ;-)

  55. nate–I thought they keep both Howard and McDonald because McDonald is Mebane’s backup, while Howard is more versatile, playing some DE as well as DT–and I think he plays Branch’s old DT position. Point being the two play different roles, so may not be competing directly with each other for a roster spot.

    Rishaw may stick, but all I remember seeing is him looking lost and committing penalties. I dont get to see him practice daily though, so my opinion is rather uninformed.

    Personally, I value ST and would keep Farwell if I were the boss. But I think they will look hard at younger guys with higher upside (and lower cap cost)like Morgan.

    I think you can get carried away with the youth movement, as GB has done in the past. You need some vets and ST aces, guys like Mike Rob, Farwell, Winfield, McQ, and the like. You cant get by with only a couple of those guys, and you need at least one per position group, IMO.

    Oldslow–I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, the NFL is one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest, league for trades; no one wants to give up anything in trade, everyone wants a steal. They would rather take their chances via the waiver wire.

    I would love to see us start trading a few guys like the Pats have done, but I think we wont see that for another year or two. Plus, we’re more likely to just watch guys walk away for more money than we are to trade them in their last year of their contract.

  56. chuck_easton says:

    Thanks mate! I’d hate to sound any more ‘un cool’ to my 16 year old than I already am.

    BTW, off topic but apparently we all have time to kill, the monster got his driver’s license this week. He’s already gone through two full tanks of gas when I only had to fill up once every couple of weeks. Haven’t seen my car since Monday.

    So, if anybody sees a silver Subaru Forester with Alberta plates please tell my son he needs to get home as high school classes start next tuesday.

  57. Chuck–We all get there sooner or later. It means youre aging gracefully and maturing, IMO, when you become like your father. And in my case, there is a lot of good to emulate in my Dad, so Im proud to be compared to him (much of the time anyway!). But it is weird to realize one is getting older and feeling decidedly mortal…

  58. Well, Chuck, if I see your kid in his Suby in MT, I will send him packing in time for school!

  59. grizindabox24 says:

    figures STTBM is from Montana

  60. Griz–Uh, I hope you mean that in a good way lol!

  61. Dukeshire says:

    Stevo – You are indeed. I’m excited about it, too!

  62. grizindabox24 says:
  63. Hey, Chase Reynolds is back on the Rams, and he got a nifty 17 yard pass for a TD, ran away from a guy and through another…he might make the team!

    And Mariani is listed as the fourth WR and first kick returner in Tennessee!

  64. Chuck, is Canada like much of Europe where you actually have to have a modicum of skill to get a license or is it like most US States? At least in Washington now they place certain restrictions on teen drivers like the amount of passengers they can have.

    I personally think it would be very stupid to chance releasing Mike Rob in an attempt to bring him back. The guy seems to always be undervalued. The Hawks still use a FB. He’s a pro bowl FB, pro bowl ST player, team leader, and the emergency QB. Not worth risking for the 1.9 mil or so at most that you’d save.

    I also don’t see Winfield getting cut for money. They only save 1 mil by cutting him. It’s possible, but I don’t think they’d chance it unless they’re convinced that Lane or Maxwell could be a good slot corner should Thurmond be injured.

  65. grizindabox24 says:

    I think MRob could be in trouble. Not a lot of teams us a FB, and I think the Hawks will use more 2 TE formations and less FB formations. And an additional 1 million rollover is a big deal.

  66. chuck_easton says:


    Each Province has their own traffic laws.

    In Alberta we have what is called a Graduated Learners Program.

    Kids can take the written test when they turn 14. If they pass they are given their Learners Permit. They then have two years of driving under the learners license with the requirement of a licensed driver over the age of 18 in the passenger seat. Also they cannot drive between midnight and 6am under a learners, even with a licensed driver.

    After two years of driving under their learners they can then take the driving test to get their probationary license. This is what Tyler just did.

    Now as a probationary driver he can drive alone, he can only have the number of passengers as there are seatbelts, and he only has 7 demerit points during the entire probationary period instead of the standard 15 demerit points at any given time. Also, there is ZERO tolerance for alcohol. Even a .01 and he’s suspended.

    He has to drive on his Probationary license until he’s 18 at which time he must take the written exam and a more difficult final driving exam to qualify for a permanent Driver’s License.

    Oh, and 7 demerit points go fast. 1 ticket is usually 2-4 points so two tickets within his probationary period of two years is enough to get his license suspended for 6 months and a requirement of a re-test.

  67. I think that would be more likely if McCoy was here. Not sure that Willson is enough of a blocker to run for the 2 TE set most of the time. The Hawks still use a FB a lot compared to other teams. I wouldn’t chance it in 2013. In the off-season you can let him go out and find what his market is. Also, you have time to see how Ware and/or Coleman develop in 2013. I know you’ve been predicting Mike Rob being cut for a long time. We’ll know soon.

  68. Chuck, thanks. Looks like Washington State actually has something fairly similar. They didn’t have any of this stuff when I was in the affected age range. Also, I’d suspect that you can blow up to a 0.02, though I could certainly be wrong. That’s what minors and people with restricted driving privileges can blow in Washington. Mouthwash, alcohol-based hand sanitizers, certain drinks like Sprite and cerain lemonades, etc. can give a reading of below 0.02. Plus, there is no significant impairment proven for people under 0.02.

  69. I think that Hauschka may have had the most impressive performance yesterday. 3/3 from 50+ was very nice to see. He also barely missed that 61 yarder earlier in preseason. Kickers have a large impact on wins and losses in football. It would be significant if he can be better from 50+ in 2013.

    Irvin looked more impressive at LB than I thought he would. His speed is undeniable. Catching Pryor was obviously impressive. A wow moment, like when he ran down Lynch 60 yards down the field last TC. Sucks that he missed time in TC that he could’ve used to develop and will be away for 4 weeks.

    Thurmond showed the skill many here think he has. Really hope he can stay healthy. If he does and plays well, the Hawks will have some tough decision at CB in the off-season.

    Bradford was impressive again. It’s amazing the way he hits people at 235 pounds. Mayowa looked good again. Think he’s made the team. Though Howard had good penetration a few times.

    Harper dropping a couple of passes may have sealed his fate. I hope they can get him to the PS.

  70. *decisions *Thought

  71. SandpointHawk says:

    I love the way Russell has changed this team for the better…

    Two years ago this blog was screaming about Darrell Bevell’s bubble screens.

    Now we can win the whole show because of them…

    Go Hawks

  72. banosser says:

    @Freedom X “I’d love to see a healthy Carpenter take on Darnell Dockett on a straight-ahead run play and plant Dockett’s head into the Fieldturf.”

    agreed.. as long as he then shoves his forearm down on Dockett’s throat and makes his eyes bug out..

  73. bbmate–Haushka kicked butt. Not since Josh Browns heyday have we had a kicker make 56 yarders, and three fifty-plus boots in one game. The guy has really taken his kicking up a notch in the offseason, and my hat is off to him!

    If we can get all our guys healthy, our D-line has the potential to be one of the best, if not THE best line’s in the NFL. Getting Irvin back from suspension will be great. I sure wish we had all our guys healthy for the Niners game week two though…

    Who has a list of guys like Mebane, Bennett, Irvin, Clemons, and Avril?! Not to mention the guys with promise like McDaniels, Mayowa, Smith/Morgan, and Howard and Hill?!

  74. edstang45 says:

    Doug Farrar is now officially an IDIOT, but I say that with the utmost love and respect

  75. edstang45 says:

    LOL Sandpoint, who in here ever questioned our beloved Bevell

  76. Bevell earned his criticism. He still has to prove he wont choke and go all conservative in a playoff game, as he did early in the ATL game. But I am glad Seattle gave him a raise and signed him to an extension–I dont want to start over again just now.

  77. STTBM, agreed about the d-line talent. Not sure that they have more talent than the Bengals line though. We just hopefully need to ride out the early part of the year with injuries and the suspension.

    BTW, you can call me Nate if you want to. I don’t mind. Not that you necessarily care either way.

  78. chuck_easton says:

    Trufant and Charly Martin were let go by the Jags in final cuts. Blackmon and Knox made the 53.

  79. GeorgiaHawk says:

    My 53 projection after looking at Eric’s and nates.

    Offense: 24

    QB- 2 RW and Hasselbeck. ( Quinn gets traded to the Jets for a conditional 7) (and Jackson gets traded to the Raiders for a conditional 4, then wins the starting job.) ( Hassellbeck gets released by the Colts and picked up by the Seahawks.

    RB- 5 Beast, Turbin, Michael, Ware, and Robinson.)

    WR- 6 Rice, Tate, Baldwin, Kearse, Harper and Williams.

    TE- 2 Miller and Willson.

    OL- 9 Okung, , Unger, McQ, Giacomini, Sweezy, Jeanpierre, Bailey, Moffitt, and DeCastro. ( Carp gets traded for Moffitt and a conditional 4) (Harvin is traded for DeCastro straight up.)

    Defense: 26

    DL- 10 Avril, Bennett, Red, Mayowa, Hill, Mebane, Howard, McDaniel, Clemons and JJ Watts.( We give up 4 first round picks, and three third round picks for Watts.)

    LB-6 Wagner, KJ, Smith, Bradford, Schofield, and Lotuleilei.

    CB- 6 Sherm, BB, Thurmond, Winfield, Maxwell, and Lane.

    S- 4 ET, Kam, Maragos, and Johnson.

    ST- 3 Hauschka, Ryan and Gresham.

  80. chuck_easton says:

    So Georgia? Did somebody get a jump on the Labor Day partying? :)

  81. I see our buddy GeorgiaHawk is already deep into happy hour. lol. cheers!

  82. freedom_X says:

    A pity about Marcus Trufant. From a sentimental standpoint, it would have been nice to see all three Trufant brothers in the league at the same time. (I assume Isiah is going to stick.)

    The Jags also cut Matt Scott, who I thought had good potential as a developmental QB. I would have been happy to see Seattle pick up up around draft time, but we’ll see if he anyone else thinks that, or he ends up on a practice squad. Jacksonville can’t have too deep a QB depth chart…

  83. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Hey Chuck and Stevos, Someone has to balance out your common sense at times. Lol.

    Happy Hour indeed! And happy Labor day weekend to all.

    Interesting Diagrams here-

  84. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I think we have the best defense in the NFL to contain Kap and the 49er offense.

    Duke- Let me know what you think.

  85. I hope the Hawks pick up Matt Scott for their PS.

  86. chuck_easton says:

    I’d like that Nate. He was one QB I wouldn’t have minded seeing the team take in the draft.

  87. grizindabox24 says:

    Michael Robinson ‏@RealMikeRob 1m
    Been real #12thMan will always have love for ya

  88. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Michael Robinson released? Wow! If it is true.

  89. Don’t say I didn’t tell you… So long mike. You as well will have a special place in our hearts.

  90. Yep. He’s gone.

  91. That does not look good on Mike Rob twitter. I really thought he was one guy we needed

  92. MoSeahawk12 says:

    This sucks. Marshawn can’t be pleased and by the way, our QB needs an experienced blocker to protect him when the OLine whiffs as they will several times a game. Hope the can find a way to bring him back. All this talk about getting Lynch 2000 yards just went out the window.

  93. Chuck, he’s really raw, one major reason he wasn’t drafted, but he’d be perfect for a PS IMO. He hasn’t played a lot of football.

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