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Moffitt trade to Cleveland voided due to health issues; he’s headed to Denver instead

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 20, 2013 at 3:16 pm with 60 Comments »
August 20, 2013 4:58 pm

According to Nate Ulrich of the Akron Beacon Journal, the Cleveland Browns voided the trade of offensive lineman John Moffitt in exchange for defensive lineman Brian Sanford because Moffitt failed his physical with the Browns.

So now Moffitt’s rights returns to the Seahawks, and Sanford goes back to Cleveland. Moffitt had major knee surgery two years ago, and also had elbow surgery a year ago.

The Seahawks wasted little time, sending Moffitt to Denver for defensive tackle Sealver Sealver Siliga, according to the Denver Broncos’ website.

UPDATE: The Seahawks confirmed the trade, pending Moffitt passes a physical.

At 6-3 and 325 pounds, Siliga was an undrafted rookie free agent out of Utah who spent time his rookie season on Denver’s practice squad in 2011, and played in one game for the Broncos in 2012.

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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Looks like his knee was the issue.

  2. I’m really not sure whether or not to be surprised.

  3. Ok so now we’re starting to get a little more information. I wonder if Moffitt’s knee and elbow were part of the reason he couldn’t beat out a rookie defensive lineman converted to O-line…

  4. HawkfaninMT says:

    As stated on the previous thread…

    Possible replacement for McDaniels? How much cap relief, if any, would the Hawks get for cutting him I wonder?

  5. grizindabox24 says:

    McDaniel and Slilga have salaries within $100,000, so not much cap relief after dead money.

  6. Moffitt’s getting traded every day. What are the chances none of the 3 players involved in the various Moffitt trades makes their team’s final roster?

  7. They should just cut him.

  8. grizindabox24 says:

    Pabs, if the trade to Denver is not voided, I think Moffitt sticks there. Reason they dealt for him is they need bodies.

  9. grizindabox24 says:

    wigman, my first thought when the Browns trade was voided was that the Hawks would cut Moffitt instead of taking him back.

  10. sluggo42 says:

    haha, this is too funny now…
    So his knee is weakened and so that explains everything….

  11. sluggo42 says:

    I wonder what STTBM is going to say to this one…

  12. If Moffitt had to go I was happier with Cleveland as a destination than Denver. We just might see the Broncos again this season and I don’t want the wrath of Moffitt used against us.

  13. raymaines says:

    I’m OK with the wrath of Moffitt. Seriously, if he can’t beat out JR Sweezy he won’t overpower Big Red.

  14. grizindabox24 says:

    Davis Hsu ‏@DavisHsuSeattle 9m
    remember when Rapaport was on Ian and said a Defensive Seahawk asked if he was gonna get cut? a paid hawk vet?…..

    Davis Hsu ‏@DavisHsuSeattle 6m
    seahawks targeting interior DL hard….gotta be a reason…

  15. I just wish Moffitt well. I hope his knee is ok. And I hope we end up liking Siliga more than Sanford.

    And I really hope our line steps up, and Sweezy holds his own.

  16. griz–Not sure what your comment means; do you mean someone with inside knowledge overheard a vet D-lineman worrying about being cut?

  17. grizindabox24 says:

    STTBM, Ian Rapoport from NFL.com was at Seahawk training camp a few weeks ago and stated on Ian Furness that a veteran Hawks defensive player talked to coaches because he was worried about his job security. It was established that it was a D-Lineman, and most assumed it was Mebane. The Hawks have been bringing in every D-Lineman they can get there hands on ever since. Take it for what it is worth, might mean something, most probably means nothing.

  18. STTBM, I suspect Tony McDaniel won’t make the cut. He has yet to practice and they have the young guys, Hill and Williams, that are playing as well as can be expected as rookies.

  19. RDPoulsbo says:

    Yeah, the wrath of Moffitt might involve pissing on one’s leg…only he can’t do that in WA state or he’ll be sent to jail for 2 years…

    This is kind of strange since Moffitt went through a full practice with Cleveland today. Anyhow, I too like Sealver more than Sanford. There’s already plenty of sub-300 D-linemen on the team. Adding some bulk for short yardage packages might be a good idea.

  20. RDPoulsbo says:

    …apparently, they pulled him out in the middle of practice. Still, kind of strange.

  21. yellaman says:

    Can someone explain to me how 1 team (Seattle) can have Moffitt actively playing. Then trade him to another team (Cleveland) and that team says Moffitt can’t pass a physical. Then void the deal and another team (Denver) make the trade for Moffitt. I’m curious as to why he can play in Seattle but Cleveland says he is damaged goods and voids the trade, but Denver is ok with Moffitt’s status. Don’t get it

  22. grizindabox24 says:

    I will fess up, I stole this because it is damn funny

    I’m going to miss Brian Sanford.
    He was a funny guy.

  23. grizindabox24 says:

    yellaman, different medical staffs that see things differently. Also, we will have to wait and see if he passes his physical in Denver.

  24. banosser says:

    My guess is it is more about attitude than ability, as to why the Hawks FO is jettisoning Moffitt

  25. If and when that sanford guy gets cut we wont pick him up. This is all smoke

  26. grizindabox24 says:

    wigman, smoke for what?

  27. My guess is we are trying to be nice and not just cut Moffit outright. Maybe they like him. We would take a 7th for him but no one is giving a 7th. Good news is the o line has improved to the point that Moffit does not make the team.

  28. sluggo42 says:

    What happens if he fails Denver’s physical,?
    Does he return?
    Will he get the love TJack does?

  29. Griz–Thank you very much for the clarification. My guess would be that it was McDaniel who was worried about his status–or Clinton McDonald. Mebane is a fine player, and while he does struggle with that old calf injury, he’s still not a guy we can replace with the Sanford/Siliga’s of the world.

    But that’s only my opinion, based on nothing concrete; the Hawks have done weirder things so it wouldn’t surprise me too much to see them cut a star like Mebane.

    By the way, its cool to have a discussion and not argue. Thanks!

  30. Maybe the Browns thought Seattle would cut Moffitt and they could claim him off waivers. Wouldn’t put it past them…or maybe Moffitt cracked a joke they didn’t like!

  31. Maybe John showed up to practice in shoulder pads and a thong.

    One thing I do find slightly strange about our construction project is that it has been built from the outside-in. The lines on both sides of the ball are the weakest position groups on the team as things currently stand. We’re still going to win it all, so I’m o.k. with that.

  32. “Ian Rapoport from NFL.com was at Seahawk training camp a few weeks ago and stated on Ian Furness that a veteran Hawks defensive player talked to coaches because he was worried about his job security. It was established that it was a D-Lineman, and most assumed it was Mebane.”

    Smells like a great big pile of horse doo to me. Brandon Mebane a potential cut? Going to need to see a little more validation on that one before I even buy that. Brandon Mebane has a been a rock for the Seahawks for basically his entire career. He hasn’t even hit 30 yet.

  33. best comment I heard today was Danny O’Neil on the radio…
    “have they called Cleveland and Denver yet to warn the mall cops?”

  34. This is getting weird enough that the Seahawks and our local press ought to clarify what’s really up here. So far it’s sounding like he may be too sketchy or compromised in too many ways by others too.

  35. grizindabox24 says:

    I still believe that the Hawks will clear cap space for rollover into next season, so there will be some cuts that may surprise people.

  36. sluggo42 says:

    Yes, the surprise cuts that happen every year.

    But don’t they have to get to 75 by friday?

  37. grizindabox24 says:

    sluggo, I think it is either Sunday or Monday after this weeks games are over

  38. sluggo42 says:

    Well, at least we shall see who sticks within a few weeks now. I think I was pretty right on with my roster a few days ago, with the exception of Moffballs.

  39. I understand that Sweezy won the starting right guard position, and that would make Moffitt a back-up, but why are we trading a 3rd round pick, who is a very good back-up, and a decent starter for these undrafted, practice squad type players when we already have a very crowded DL??? It makes no sense! Stupid trade!!! We didn’t even get any draft picks back.

  40. chuck_easton says:

    Teams have to cut from 90 to 75 by 4pm ET on Tuesday the 27th.

    Final cuts from 75 to 53 have to be completed by 4pm on Saturday the 31st.

  41. nmseafan says:

    Obviously Moffitt’s health is keeping him from playing at his best so he can’t keep up with Sweez who is in tip top shape. However, Bailey and Bowie look like they could step in already if needed. Okung gave a high recommendation for Bowie and looks like he’s right.

  42. I think a lot of people here hold too much into account that Moffitt was a staple of Real Roob Report. I am no fan of JR Sweezy but it was OBVIOUSLY apparant that he was much more physically capable of handling the position of guard when watching them play and drill one after the other. I’m not talking about injuries. I’m talkin about the grind, the push, and somewhat the protection. Moffitt had the mentality but lacked the physicality. He understood who to slide to, he understood who needed the double team. He was decent in pass pro when feeding of those next to him. However when it came to physically moving the man in front of him he struggled. He struggled to pop of the ball and he struggled to get into the defender. We are a run first team and Sweezy fit that physicality that we need on the right side. The Seahawks would rather bank on teaching JR the intricacies of their system mentally rather than waiting for Moffitt to come around physically.

    Remember physicals that NFL teams out players through are completely ambiguous. They can have you run up a mountain and decide that you didn’t run it fast enough. If they cut him mid practice this leads me to believe that they were expecting Moffitt to come in and start right away. I don’t believe that Moffitt is a starter in this league.

    Some of you have to understand that the Seahawks are not trying to win the award for best “behind the scenes” of te locker room series, they are trying to win football games. The sooner you come to terms with this the easier it will be when we eventually part ways with Michael Robinson.

  43. (Apologies iPhone posting)

  44. grizindabox24 says:

    tobis, seems that no other team thought Moffitt was worth a pick. The Hawks dealt him because they were ready to move on, think they have enough o-line depth. Apparently the Hawks feel they need more depth on the d-line.

  45. It makes no difference whatsoever that Moffitt was a 3rd round pick. That’s not how this team is run. The team needs 3 guards who can start, plus a young guy behind them to groom. They have 3 guards in McQ, Carp, Sweezy. Moffitt was number 4. Not needed. End of story.

  46. “I still believe that the Hawks will clear cap space for rollover into next season, so there will be some cuts that may surprise people.”

    I see your point, and I would agree that yes, there is a good possibility that Seahawks fans see a surprising cut or two, but w/out something more than a wild guess to back such speculation about Brandon Mebane being one of those cuts is just hard to take seriously.

    If I had to guess as to which vet d-lineman they might be talking about, I would probably look Red’s way before Mebane’s. Red is making a ton of dough right now that he’s not exactly living up to. His part within the defensive scheme isn’t one that seems all that difficult to fill; especially given the type of depth that they have now established at that 5-technique spot.

    Brandon Mebane is one of the team’s most experienced, versatile d-linemen, and he has a penchant for being very durable. He’s rock steady. Pete and John had better be feeling something real special about Jordan Hill and/or Jesse Williams if they think Mebane is in any way expendable in 2013.

  47. grizindabox24 says:

    Sekolah, I got Mebane from another source that is fairly credible. I was just passing along info and stated that I was not so sure it was something with real legs. The story about a vet defensive player wondering if he job was safe is 100% accurate though.

  48. I almost 100% sure that the D-lineman that was worried would be McDaniel, not Mebane or Bryant. Both those two guys are solid locks to make the roster. McDaniel hasn’t played a snap in preseason because he’s been injured.

  49. while we are wildly speculation on which D linemen might be worried about his job, Chris Clemons is 31 and coming off surgery. He’s got reason to worry.

    And recently I heard another Seahawk say “we are always competing. you can’t never get comfortable here.”

  50. I like the theory that the Seahawks are trading Moffitt for anything they can get, even a camp body, just to keep him out of the division.

  51. bird_spit says:

    Yawn..next man up.

    I do believe we are about to see Mike Rob be asked to take a cut, or be cut. Total speculation, but it isnt hard to read the tea leaves on that one. He will be really hard to see go. He is worth every penny as a team PR guy, but the cap will hit hard soon enough.

  52. bbnate420 says:

    I’d be shocked if they cut Mike Rob. He is worth every penny of that 2.5 mil. I’d certainly rather pay him 2.5 mil than pay Clinton McDonald 1.3 mil.

    The Hawks have approx. 3.4 mil in cap space right now. They currently have 128 mil committed to 51 players in 2014. The cap will likely be between 132 and 135 mil I would guess. If you added the 3.4 mil in cap space, the Hawks’ cap would be between 135.4 and 138.4 mil. There are contracts they can cut or restructure to free up significant money as well. I think they definitely cut or ask CC to restructure after 2013. They would save 7.5 mil by cutting him. I don’t see them keeping both Red and Bennett also.

    http://overthecap.com/nfl-cap-space.php?Year=2013

  53. sluggo42 says:

    If this is the year for a SB, mike rob needs to be there. His deep understanding of his assignments, ability to re-direct focus as needed, swing pass catching ability, bone crushing power, all during key moments are all things neither rookie could possibly be expected to handle. SB years include guys like MRob, ZMiller, Winfield, Beast,Rice, etc, to be joined up with the Sherman’s, okungs, ungers, mebanes etc.

    Maybe nex year MRob gets the gaff,…, but not this year

  54. montanamike2 says:

    I concur Sluggo, maybe next year but not this year to cut Mike Rob.

  55. grizindabox24 says:

    bbnate, the current cap $123 million and the forecasts I have seen for next season are more in the $128 million range max.

  56. Great read judah!

  57. jchawks08 says:

    That was a great article. I love Mike Silver! Ok, well I like his writing style a lot.

  58. I don’t believe any of the youngers are as good as Mebane, MRob, or Winfield but I believe any of them COULD be waved. I don’t believe that any of them SHOULD be waved.

    And also PC’s comments today led me to believe that Moffitt would be cut had they not traded him but the fact that the youngers played well – ALLOWED them to make the trade. He had some value to get a guy back that intrigued them so they tried.

  59. bbnate420 says:

    griz, you are right. I guess I was thinking it was around 130 mil because I forgot to factor their rollover from 2012. So if the cap is 126-128 mil, their cap should be around 130-132 mil for 2014. They have approx. 128 mil committed to their top 51 in 2014 at the moment. And they can free up significant room. Like I said, I expect CC to be gone. I expect either Red or Bennett to not be here, though Bennett doesn’t count towards 2014 yet.

    Harvin and Avril both receive more guaranteed money early in the off-season. They could cut either if they wanted.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/cap-hit/2014/

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