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Zach Miller passes physical, comes off PUP list

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 16, 2013 at 2:11 pm with 26 Comments »
August 16, 2013 2:11 pm

Some good news on the injury front for the Seattle Seahawks after this afternoon’s walk-through practice – starting tight end Zach Miller has been taken off the physically unable to perform (PUP) list, and will begin practicing this week.

Miller has not practiced at all during training camp because of a foot issue, causing concern for Seattle’s depth at the position. Rookie Luke Willson will handle starting duties for a second straight game. Miller will not play against Denver on Saturday.

“Next week will be much more involved,” Carroll said about Miller. “Again, we’ll continue to be very measured at how we bring him back in. But it’s great to have him back. And he’s ready to go.”

On the Percy Harvin front, Carroll said it will take at least a month before the team can figure out a more defined timeline on when or if he returns to the field this season after recent hip surgery.

“We don’t know that yet,” Carroll said. “We just know that the surgeon that did the work, the specialist was thrilled with the way he came back the days after the surgery. And his ability to get range of motion and things were way ahead of schedule.

“So that’s a great sign, from what they told us. … It’s going to take a good month before you can begin to figure out if he’s even going to have a chance to come roaring back out of it. But it looks like all the signs are very good. So we’ll see what that means. We’re not putting any weeks on it. We don’t know.”

And defensive end Chris Clemons remains on the PUP list – for now.

“He’s still working hard,” Carroll said. “He’s doing good. He’s right in the middle of a rigorous rehab now. He’s on the field cutting and moving, and doing defensive line drills and all that kind of stuff. I don’t know what that means time-wise, but he’s doing well.

“And he’s managing his way through it. He’s not in any pain or discomfort. It’s just a matter of getting his confidence back, and getting him back to full speed before we take him back off the PUP and get him going.”

Running back Christine Michael (back spasms) and defensive tackle Tony McDaniel (groin) returned to practice today, but Carroll said he will not know until game time if either player will be available for Saturday’s game against Denver.

Carroll indicated how Michael reacts after today’s practice will help determine if he plays tomorrow.

Defensive end Cliff Avril (hamstring) also will be a game-time decision, according to Carroll.

Carroll talked in detail about moving Phil Bates from receiver to fullback. He said that the move was not a reflection on how Bates has performed at receiver, and that the move is considered a long-range project.

Carroll compared Bates to another former college receiver’s successful transition to fullback in the NFL, University of Washington product Marcel Reese.

Bates also was an option quarterback at Ohio University before moving to receiver his final season there.

“He’s a big kid,” Carroll said. “He was 233 pounds when we started this experiment moving him to fullback, and he’ll be 240 in another week. And he’s just a really good, all-around football player. We love that he’s really fast. And he’s a terrific catcher. So if it could work out, then we might be able to develop a player.”

Carroll said that rookie defensive tackle Jordan Hill will start at defensive tackle alongside Brandon Mebane, along with working as the nose guard with the third-down pass rush unit.

Carroll said that Hill had another good week of practice. Carroll said that defensive lineman Jaye Howard’s availability still is uncertain for Saturday.

Carroll said that Golden Tate will be first up at kick returns, and Jermaine Kearse will get the first opportunity as the team’s kick returner on Saturday.

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  1. RDPoulsbo says:

    The Bates move makes a lot more sense now. PC seems pleased to have a FB with the mindset of a QB in Mike Rob. It’s worth a shot to keep that going for the future.

    Sounds like the training room is emptying out. Good to hear. Lots of good news on the injury front all around.

  2. I think the Bates move has a few potential motives.

    1. They didn’t like what they were seeing totally in Ware/Coleman –

    2. They are trying to stash him on the PS – by moving him to FB he won’t put up big stats thus making it easier to have him clear waivers if/when they cut him.

    3. Ware/Coleman are doing well and MikeRob is in danger of losing his job (salary reasons) and Bates would be the next backup in line and more dynamic than Ware/Coleman for a change or special teams.

    Time will tell -

  3. Dukeshire says:

    Considering how dinged Avril has been all camp, I’d prefer they let him rest Saturday.

    Great news about Miller. Here’s hoping he stays healthy the remainder of the way.

    And I’m looking forward to seeing Hill in extended time. I’d like to see a full effort every snap. (Perhaps I’m being too critical after just one preseason game, but it’s something I noticed.)

  4. Dukeshire says:

    “He was 233 pounds when we started this experiment moving him to fullback, and he’ll be 240 in another week” Damn. Sounds like he’s on my dietary plan.

    In any event, that would put him at a nearly identical size as Robinson: Robinson / Lynch pass the torch to Bates / Michael down the road…? (That’s about as far as I speculate. lol)

  5. Is it effort or maybe not quite knowing what his assignment is or unable to read the Offensive set since it is probably a little more complex than College?

    Just thoughts

    I can’t wait – very excited to be in the stadium again!

  6. Dukeshire says:

    May well be. I just saw a couple times when the play went away from him there appeared to be less effort to pursue. The reasons could be many and as I said, I may be hyper critical. He flashes though, no question about that.

  7. Seattle Seahawks cornerback Antoine Winfield was docked $7,875 for a late hit.

    This is such crap – that hit was not flag worthy and should not have been fined IMO -

  8. GeorgiaHawk says:

    They know what they have in Zach. So It’s no big deal to me that they limit his performance in pre-season.

  9. Someone on commented that it didn’t matter because Miller had to “develop an NFL skillset”

    Some fans just leave me shaking my head

  10. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    For the past few years, I’ve held to the theory that Carson Palmer was the ultimate fantasy garbage man. Turns out, I was absolutely right. Over the past three years, no one has thrown for more yards once the game gets out of hand — and it hasn’t really been close. Late in one-sided affairs, Palmer’s tossed for 1,588 yards. Second is Josh Freeman … with 1,175 yards. Palmer also leads teh way with 14 TD passes — one better than Ryan Fitzpatrick.

    for those that think palmer is good

  11. RDPoulsbo says:

    Why is Denver practicing for Seattle crowd noise? It’s preseason and the 12th man is holding back in case of injury like every other team. Home opener is in 5 weeks. No need to tear any vocal chords in preseason.

    Don’t worry about Palmer, worry for him. Levi is back to protect his blindside this year. Yes, the 2 time champ of sacks allowed is back from injury to lead the way once again.

  12. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Just watched some of the Saints preseason game and Seneca Wallace is in competition to be Drew’s backup. He looked awful on the series I watched. Sacked on 1st drop as his primary receiver covered, tried to scramble to his right and was caught by a D Lineman. Hand off, then pressure and he missed the throw by a lot. Dude looks waaay done. Glad our backup QB situation is improving. Saints in trouble as are most team that lose starter QB. We seem to have a better backup plan as of now.

  13. MoSeahawk12 says:

    and he just got sacked and fumbled for a Raider TD. No pocket presence still.

  14. trout_hound says:

    Damn, just got back from a weeks vacation, and even though I DVR’d the Chargers game, I just played it back and it was either ‘technical difficultied’ or else they were showing the Broncos and Niners. Lucky the game is up on Kickasstorrents for download. Looking forward to watching the Bronco game tomorrow. Hopefully they will show the whole thing and not do the skiparroo again.

    Speaking of the Raiders, Flynn didn’t look too impressive tonight.

  15. raymaines says:

    I see that both Cleveland and Buffalo are 2-0 so far this year. The pre season is so weird.

  16. montanamike2 says:

    Flynn got what he wanted in a starting job, now he just has to run for his life every possession. That Miller comment is a headscratcher. I hope it isn’t the same switcharoo crap tomorrow too.

  17. montanamike2 says:

    It shows where a team is weak in depth. It appears that most everyone on the 49’rs has the dropsies, they have hardly any secondary and are ranked #2?

  18. raymaines says:


    The rest of that post should say something like: I’d like to see 1) a smooth running offense, 2) a blocking TE, 3) a little first half pass rush, 4) and some clarity at the backup WR position.

  19. I think the guys getting moved to FB on the Seahawks are simply heading to get cut. Its a bad sign. Not only is FB is a hard position to learn, but no one is taking MikeRob’s job. His synch with the O line and Lynch is perfection. Bates is screwed.

  20. Watched Flynn behind that Raiders invisible offensive line tonight. They made the Saints pass rushers look like All-World. Its going to be a long long season for Matt.

  21. On my Dish guide it shows the game from 7:30 – 10 on the NFL network. It is 7 – 10 on Fox. Last game said 8 – 10 with “Whiparound” from 7 – 8.

  22. If you’ve never listened on the radio you should check it out! It’s much better than tv coverage but there’s no delay like the satellite tv so it’s hard to listen while you watch.

  23. bbnate420 says:

    The entire Chargers game was on YouTube until most likely someone reported it and it was taken down. It is on this YouTube page in SD for the time being.

    I wouldn’t say that Palmer is necessarily a good QB anymore, but I think he’s still above average. He’s certainly better than the crap on a stick that Arizona has had since Warner retired. And he has a lot more talent to throw to in Ari than he did with the Raiders.

    The move of Bates to FB is very intriguing. He has a good skill set if he can learn to block from the FB position. Hopefully they can stash him on the PS for another year to develop.

    Here’s Jon Bostic knocking the spit out of someone against the Chargers if anyone missed it.

  24. bbnate420 says:

    *was on YouTube in HD

  25. montanamike2 says:

    Tonight’s the night!

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