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Morning links: Reaction to Hawks 31-10 win

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 9, 2013 at 8:34 am with 72 Comments »
August 9, 2013 8:34 am
Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Stephen Williams pulls in a 41 yard reception against the San Diego Chargers in the third quarter of an NFL preseason football game Thursday, Aug. 8, 2013, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Gregory Bull)
Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Stephen Williams pulls in a 41 yard reception against the San Diego Chargers in the third quarter of an NFL preseason football game Thursday, Aug. 8, 2013, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Gregory Bull)

Good morning. I’m headed back to the Pacific Northwest, but I wanted to post some reaction to Seattle’s 31-10 win over the San Diego Chargers in the team’s exhibition opener.

Here’s my game story from last night.

And in my notebook I focus on the impressive effort of rookie running back Christine Michael.

Check out the game box and highlights here.

Danny O’Neil of 710 ESPN Seattle writes that Tarvaris Jackson was almost perfect in the second half.

ESPN’s Mike Sando offers his take on the game here.

Bob Condotta of The Seattle Times provides some notes and thoughts on the game.

Clare Farnsworth of recaps the game.

The “Predictalator” gives Seattle a 7.2 percent chance to win the Super Bowl this year.

Joe Fortenbaugh of the National Football Post has the Seahawks ranked No. 3 in his preseason NFL power rankings.

Mike Silver of Yahoo Sports writes in his profile on California Lt. Governer Gavin Newsom that he offered to serve as a character witness for Marshawn Lynch regarding his DUI charge for the league office. Newsom was at Lynch’s football camp when I was down there in July. “For him to take the time out to talk to the commissioner about me is something I will never forget,” says Lynch, whose case is still unresolved. “For Gavin to be the second-most powerful person in California and [still] talk to a kid from Oakland and help me learn about business, it tells you what kind of character he has.”

Matt Maiocco of offers some thoughts on the competition at receiver for the 49ers (Marlon Mooore played well, while first round pick A.J. Jenkins struggled).

Jeff Schultz of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution writes about Brian Banks’ debut with the Falcons.

Former Seahawks defensive linemen Jay Richardson and Baraka Atkins are looking to resurface in the NFL with the Saints.

Morning links
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  1. RDPoulsbo says:

    For saying the 1st team struggled, they were missing 4 starters on both sides of the ball. I’m not sure you could even call it their 1st team. For the most part, the depth on the team is going to make it very difficult to make cuts in a lot of areas.

    The line on Jenkins was brutal. 3 targets, 3 turnovers (2 INTs, 1 lost fumble). Channel 83 might just get a chance to start in SF…

  2. Had pretty much the worst night ever. Drove half an hour to watch the game, only to find the bar had loud music and no sound on the TV’s. Went another half hour north, found a bar with the game….

    Realized I had dropped/lost my $50 bill…then the NFL Network decided to cut away from the Hawks game constantly to show other games, and we were missing one out of every three plays…THEN the NFL Network cut away for 15 or 20 minutes, showed two commercial sets and another game, came back for ONE PLAY of the Seahawks, and then went to another game…THEN, to top it all off, we lost the feed–something about not having subscribed…I thought preseason NFL Sunday Ticket was different from regular NFL Network?!

    THEN we drove around, found a bar with NFL Network..and onscreen it said Seahawks, but they showed LAST WEEKS HOF game instead…

    Never did get to see any Seahawks TD’s or any more of the game, despite driving for several hours…And I had two drinks and skipped dinner and overall spent about $100 and didnt get to see the game…

    F&CK the NFL, and the NFL NETWORK!!

    I hope whoever found my $50 needed it more than me…

  3. So, once again, anyone know where I can get a copy of the game?!

  4. montanamike2 says:

    Sorry to hear about your 50 bucks, it happens. I waited anxiously, they showed a little bit of the first unit and then Quinn. When the game was supposed to be shown, the NFL channel shut off! I missed all of TJ and watched the score online.

  5. montanamike2–Yeah, life goes on. I couldnt find the game on from the second quarter on in Kalispell or Whitefish..sometimes it sucks to be in MT when the Seahawks are playing. And right now I get 2 channels at home on TV, and my computer is toast so all I have is an old iphone…

    I think the regular season games will be easy to find this year, now that we’re winning, but the preseason games…well, Im lucky if I can find two out of the four each year…

  6. montanamike2 says:

    I just called DTV and they said the “technical issues” would be resolved in 1-2 days. Is that where you are STTBM?

  7. pabuwal says:

    You just couldn’t pay the $18 to purchase the entire preseason on your PC?

    In terms of NFLN, there were no issues last night. Coverage was not supposed to begin until 8 PM PT but they provided enough look-ins during the first hour, all that was missed was several minutes of the second quarter. They showed all of the first team Seahawks. They saved me from watching Brady Quinn for a series.

  8. pabuwal says:

    In terms of the “game being shutoff” on NFLN, if you watched in one of the home market areas, NFLN showed you the live look-ins but blacked you out for the actual game. That will happen again next week so you will have to find a local channel to watch it on.

  9. hawkfan777 says:


    That is a valid point but I think they were actually missing 6 starters on offense weren’t they? There were two offensive linemen (including the center which is pretty important in calling protections), Miller, Lynch, Harvin and Rice.

  10. Linebacker becoming a strength amazing. I see some players ending up on I.R. with mysterious injuries. To much talent at D.b,rec,d-line.

  11. pabuwal says:

    Sorry about that STTBM – I didn’t catch you were in a home market area so the $18 to stream it online probably would have given you the same blackout you got on NFLN.

  12. montanamike2 says:

    No local channels showing it pabs. I’ll have to find something else for next week. This year i bought 2 jerseys, 2 hats and maybe the NFL ticket, shouldn’t pre season be included with the ticket?

  13. GeorgiaHawk says:

    wigman- I was thinking the same thing with regards to mysterious injuries.

  14. It’s strange the Montana folks are blacked out from the NFLN broadcast – I checked the list and no Montana station shows Seahawks preseason games.

    In any event, maybe it makes sense to buy the NFL preseason online package. They will allow you to watch the game online immediately after the conclusion of the live broadcast.

  15. FleaFlicker says:


    Man, that sounds like a crappy night. If it’s any consolation, I got to watch all of 5 minutes of the game myself.

    NFL Network is replaying the game at 11pm (EST) on Saturday night:

    And for about $30 you can get the whole regular season digitally in case you end up in a bad spot again:

    But back to football…I think Tarvaris put himself way out in front for the #2 spot. Quinn might be in jeopardy of going from starting two games last year to being cut from the final roster.

  16. FleaFlicker says:

    correction: NFL network broadcasting again on Sunday night, not Saturday night

  17. montanamike2 says:

    Good stuff FleaFlicker. Did anyone see that hit Kam put on that little rceiver? He looked pretty shook up afterwards.

  18. Pabuwal–No, my PC is kaput I only have an old iphone. And I am way from home for three weeks to a month right now anyway, so it wouldnt do me any good. And even with my cell booster, much of Western MT where I often work has such crappy, intermittent 3g/4g coverage that video doesnt really work on my iphone…argh!

    Also, last season my bro in Missoula MT purchased the preseason online games, and the NFL said Missoula wasnt blacked out for Seahawks games…yet he never got any Seahawks preseason games (they were never available thru his online subscription), and the NFL refused to back-date his refund…yesterday, he tried to watch a game through one of those European-online sites (he’s in N.Dakota at the moment), and he immediately got a bad virus which made his computer inoperable…

    Roger Gooddell’s leadership has led to it becoming nearly impossible to watch a Seahawks game in the West without spending $80 per month on DirecTV or more if youre working away from home, as I often do, and even when the games are supposed to be shown, often times the Network shows something else instead!

  19. RDPoulsbo says:

    Given the talent all over the roster in danger of being cut, I think Quinn will be gone. Better just to pick a rookie off waivers for the practice squad to run the scout offense than use the spot on a 3rd QB.

    That really does suck STTBM. If you have a friend in the Seattle area, you could also think about getting a Slingbox for them to set up. Since the Hawks won’t be blacked out anytime soon, you won’t have to worry about missing games in the future.

  20. Pabs–Dont know where you are, but traveled all over and NFL Network never did show any Seahawks coverage after the first quarter. I dont know whether it was technical difficulties or what, but thats what happened in NW MT.

  21. montanamike2 says:

    That’s a brilliant idea RDPoulsbo.

  22. RDPoulsbo–what is a Slingbox? I have a cousin in the Renton/Maple Valley area who might be able to VHS the game, but then I gotta find a VHS player lol!

    I dont get why Paul Allen/the NFL doesnt want to make it easy for Seahawks fans to watch the games–esp preseason ones–in Montana. This state used to be mostly Hawkfans, now its mostly Denver/Minny, but it could change now that we’re winning..but its hard to stay passionate if you cant find the games because of NFL BS or the networks deciding to show a documentary (this happened last year) instead of a regular season game!

  23. STTBM – my guess is they consider your area the “local market” and you are subject to blackout restrictions on NFLN and the online coverage. But they don’t take into account that these pre-season games aren’t available over the air for anyone in this area of the “local market.”

    Its a long shot, but maybe someone can call the League Office responsible for handling blackouts and explain the situation.

  24. FleaFlicker–thanks for the info on the rewind; I wont be up past midnight watching it, but maybe I can get a friend to TiVo it and we can watch it next week while we’re pissed we cant find next week’s game lol!

  25. ChrisHolmes says:

    I feel your pain. I live on the Washington/Idaho boarder. Last year I paid $20 to have the pre-season games online through NFL Network. I never saw a pre-season game because they were all blacked out.

    Fortunately, the bar across the street got the game on a local FOX channel last night, so I was able to watch.

  26. Pabs–Youre explanation sounds legit. Some of the problem is also that bars have to buy the NFL SUnday Ticket PRESEASON games separate from the regular season, and none do out here. But since NFL Network was airing the game, which is available without NFL Sunday Ticket (I think), in this case I believe your explanation is closer to the whole truth.

    Ive been trying to find a number/e-mail address to complain about it, but so far all I have is a phone number for I will try that one.

    Tacompton–Thanks for the link. I will try that if nothing else works. I used a couple sites last year, but they were problematic and barely worked. I just cant see the NFL making money by making it so hard to see preseason games…makes no sense to me.

  27. And I still havent seen video of Stephen Williams 40+ yard reception, the non-TD one! None of the highlight video’s Ive found online show it! Grrr!

    I hear T-Jack missed a wide-open Chris Harper for a long TD? Anyone catch that play?

  28. RDPoulsbo says:

    It’s basically a box you plug into your cable and internet, then create a password for the box. Install the software on a computer or phone and you can watch whatever channels are accessible by the box. So if you have password access to one hooked up in the Seattle area, you get Seattle TV. I think the high end one has DVR capabilities now. No need to pay DirectTV. I know a few friends that have older models and it seems to work great.

  29. Thanks RDPoulsbo! I will definitely look into it!

  30. Tacompton253 says:

    No prob STTMB. The site works great if you have a decent connection (streaming capabilities). It will try to trick you into downloading Adobe player or some other crap, but you wont need to. If you download the crap it tells you to, it will give you a virus.

    I feel your pain though. They make it extremely hard to watch games outside your “market” I live in C. Oregon and lucky enough to get most of the hawks games on my local fox affiliate. The only problem is that the local fox affilate is owned by a bay area company that likes to show 1 or 2 9ers games instead of the hawks games :( Pisses me off!! But, when that happens, i end up going to a nice watering hole that has sunday ticket.

  31. If you did get the game on your t.v. did anyone else notice the smirk Mac Strong had on his face. He knows how loaded this roster is . Plus all game the 12th man could be heard over the Charger crowd.

  32. The link Eric gave us for game box & highlights above shows the td to 83. The first batch of highlights shows the play when RW runs for a 1st down and 33 blows up the rushing linebacker. Very cool block.

  33. chuck_easton says:

    I had a different take on Quinn. He wasn’t that bad. TJack was just that much better.

    With Colt McCoy being injured in SF I’d be surprised if Quinn is cut outright.

    There are teams that might consider a trade for a decent backup.

  34. Dukeshire says:

    Couple thoughts from last night:

    Sweezy is both quick and fast. However, he gets pushed around a bit in pass pro and dropped his head a few times when he was pulling and whiffed on his man. Athletic as hell though.

    Bradford was super active and aggressive, and for a guy who hasn’t played LB long, seemed to have good instincts.

    Jordan Hill had moments where he flashed. He also had moments where he appeared to take plays off.

    Michael indeed looked fast and explosive.

    I did not care for the early defensive scheme with two down interior linemen and two standing ends, with the LBs playing very shallow. SD early was able to manipulate that badly with shallow crossing routes and end runs.

    I also do not like seeing Seattle playing zone in early down and distance situations. Of course this is simply preseason where the staff is only looking at players abilities in various concepts in a live game situation and has little to do with actually game plans for a specific opponent.

  35. Dukeshire–From what little I saw of the game, I concur: i hated the zone defense. Hopefully this is just preseason vanilla, and we will end up using much more aggressive D when it counts.

    I thought the new guys at LB/DE/DT–Bradford, Morgan, Smith, Williams, had a rough go and were thinking too much at first. The LB’s especially looked bad in zone coverage. It seemed to me they didnt know when to stay with their guy, and when to let him go and hold the zone…but hopefully that clears up in preseason–its one of the main reasons preseason is valuable.

    Its amazing what Sweezy has accomplished in such a short time, considering, BUT; I really hate him as a starter. As a backup/project, great! But color me thoroughly underwhelmed with his performance thus far as a starter. (Admittedly I didnt see much of the second quarter, so perhaps he stepped up later?) Heck, if Bailey is doing so well at LT, why isnt he getting reps at RG as well, since he played that in college? They dont think he can pull, or they think Sweezy/Moffit will be better (Im underwhelmed with both, as I have said) or since he’s a rookie they dont want to overload him?

    Ive simply had it with waiting six years for us to field a complete O-line, and Im getting more impatient by the day. Good thing this is preseason game one, which Seattle’s starters are usually sloppy in.

  36. I think at this point, if Seattle cuts T-Jack the players will revolt. Unless he melts down, he’s pretty much got the job. Quinn may be kept as trade bait, but I cant see the Front Office cutting Jackson now…

  37. montanamike2 says:

    He does have value as trade bait, funny but i never thought i’d feel that way about Brady Quinn.

  38. chuck_easton says:

    As I said, Quinn didn’t play so poorly last night that he played himself out of a potential backup job somewhere.

    TJack just played better.

    Still three more pre-season games before final cuts.

    It’s clear that TJack is in the lead for that job, but Quinn still has plenty of time to show he can effectively run the offense.

    I could see the FO trying to get a low round choice for Quinn before they consider cutting him. I could also see them keeping all three on the final roster.

  39. sluggo42 says:

    During last nights chat I said that we could get a 3 rd round pick for Quinn if we show him off well during the preseason… At that point I was joking…
    Now, with injuries popping up, and him playing decently, it’s not as funny a concept.
    Probably not a 3 rd as I joked, but a 5th maybe?

  40. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I agree with Chuck on his view of Quinn & Jackson.

    STTBM- I know how you feel about missing preseason games. I can get them now but your story sounds painfully similar to some of mine in the past.
    One time the only place I could find a Seahawks preseason game was next to a strip club. OK, perhaps that experience wasn’t so painful.

    BTW- STTBM- I’ve been right with you the last few years regarding the O-Line, but last year,(even though they still need to improve on their pass protection) something good was happening before our very eyes. The continued development of Okunger.
    How many teams can claim that they have an all pro center and a pro bowl LT ? Arguably the two most important positions on the OL.

    So I’m not going to sweat the other positions anymore. I like who we have and I like the young O lineman that came in this year. I expect the line as a whole will just keep getting better.

  41. sluggo42 says:

    Next week at home with the afc favorites broncos

    We need the first string to show up. And play a bit firmer. I doubt they show much again.
    Will be a very important game for the kids.

    Baily handled the left tackle very well. As a guard in college, is threesome reason he isn’t going for right guard here and now?

    Okung, carp, unger, baily, gio…that’s solid baby

  42. Im not panicking over the O-line, but I’d trade what we have currently–two fine players and some scrubs–for one solid, if unspectacular, line of 5 guys who gel.

    Yes, Seattle could, should, and I think WILL, gel and become a complete line this year, but I am not counting my Seachickens till they hatch. Im not convinced that Sweezy/Moffit are good enough to play RG in the NFL, at least YET. Nor am I convinced that Giac is the long-term answer, esp after hearing about Bailey manning LT so well. Still, its only the first preseason game, its not time to denounce anyone nor elevate anyone untested to Pro Bowl status just yet…

    You know how good this line would be if Carp would get/stay healthy and we could settle on a quality RG/RT…

    I dont see how Harper makes the team over Kearse and Williams at this point. Kearse is making the team, and how can you cut Williams? But someone will snatch him right quick, so the only way you keep him is by IR’ing him with a phantom injury…lame! We are loaded at DB, RB, WR…cant keep extra guys at all those positions, so the cuts will be TOUGH! Gonna be some fairly happy bottom-feeder teams fighting over Seattle’s scraps like Seagulls at the dump…

  43. RDPoulsbo says:

    While I’m on record as saying there’s a lot of trade value at the bottom of the depth charts at WR and CB, Quinn isn’t one with trade value. Even with injuries happening, teams are going to at best be looking for a #3. He’ll have missed any new team’s offseason workouts, so his limited knowledge of their scheme will prevent him from having much value even if he looks good in the rest of the preseason games. Then there’s the vet minimum salary is pretty expensive for a position that almost never sees a single meaningful snap. It’s reason enough for Seattle to cut him, let alone another team from picking him up barring something like Kaep and Colt both needing surgery within the next 3 weeks.

  44. GeorgiaHawk says:

    This probably has been posted before so for those that haven’t seen the NFL calendar yet here it is-

  45. hawkfaninoklahoma says:
  46. LeePHilI says:

    Why I avoid carrying anything larger than a 20…..

  47. LeePHill–Same here. I was gonna break it on pizza and beer, but I lost it too quickly…doh!

  48. Tacompton253…zivjeli i tebi! Jeli znas Hrvatski?


  49. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Lol hawkfaninoklahoma.

  50. Dukeshire says:

    hawkfaninoklahoma – Love that picture.

  51. Georgia–Kluwe sounds like a pretty cool guy. I hope he finds a team this year, he can still kick. I think his veteran status (ie, more pay) and his mouth got him a ticket to ride out of Minny.

  52. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Why are tickets so much higher in Seattle? I wonder where we rank in the entire NFL.

  53. I would be more than happy to let someone sling box my tv but I don’t have NFL network. Maybe we could all pitch in and set it up where everyone could access it.

    I would love to see some guys traded but this time of year you just don’t see that. Not only do we need to be willing to trade them BUT someone needs to be willing to give up that pick. The lower seeded teams know they can pick them u p off of waivers and the really high rated teams want to keep their picks and/or guys wouldn’t make their team. So it would have to be someone in the middle of the pack.

    On another note: I think a few “Guy”s hurt their chances last night. Guy – for one- I didn’t think he played very well.

  54. SandpointHawk says:

    Well the ticket prices could be higher because of the demand. How many other teams sell out all home games in less than a day? That is just a wild guess though….

  55. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Guy did look kind of lost to me.
    And how did the guy do that he put a cheap shot on (in a non contact drill)?

    I hope by mid season Carp and Irvin’s name won’t be associated with bust anymore.

  56. RDPoulsbo says:

    I tried hard to get tickets to the Hawks v. 49ers. Unfortunately, it was the 1st one sold out. All the publicity from the group trying to set the crowd noise record for that game very likely jacked up the price even higher than it normally would be.

    I’m not sure if anything has changed, but the limitation of the Slingbox last I knew was only 1 remote login per Slingbox, so a bunch of people trying to get into one wouldn’t work, not to mention the uplink choking if they did. Still, if you can get someone go along, for the price of 1 season of DirectTV, you can get Seahawk games for as long as it’s plugged in.

  57. Irvin may have a lot to prove – but he was the rookie leader in sacks!!! Yes almost half came in one game but the guy played as well as expected for a raw rookie!!!

  58. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Lol. Didn’t take long for the ignorant to project Wilsons season based only on a couple vanilla drives in pre season ( without Unger, Rice ect…)

  59. montanamike2 says:

    Good lord! I never knew we were so doomed based on those 2 drives of half scrubs before he handed it off for a backup qb battle. I must now figure out what to do with my Wilson jersey.

  60. montanamike2 says:

    Sanchez threw a pick six to open the game, maybe Quinn has some value. I never tire of watching that guy fail.

  61. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Well, so far Flynn looks like a third stringer. Romo a second stringer.

  62. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Flynn doing much better in his second drive.

  63. Tuned into the morning links in late evening so I’m playing catch up here. Very disturbing that so many fans have to go to such extreme measures to see a Seahawks preseason game.
    I live in North Idaho and was able to watch it in its entirety on the local FOX network with the homer announcers. Not gloating. I had to struggle to find ways to watch at least a quarter of last year’s games because of a fight between FOX and Directv over who was going to fleece my wallet the most.
    Stay strong, my friends. Regular season and sold out games are on the horizon.

  64. bbnate420 says:

    I don’t see how anyone can call Irvin a bust? He’s played one year and led all rookies in sacks.

  65. CDN_C_Hawk says:

    STTBM…I feel your frustration mate…I just was thru MT last week traveling Hwy 2 on my way to Sask, in Canada for a Family Reunion and only cell service is Verizon I believe… from Idaho to service.
    PIck up a used laptop with Wi-Fi and use this site if you are there awhile, . Can usually find the Hawks game browsing the sports schedule under the CATEGORY tab.

    Stay Sane

  66. Flynn going 4 for 4 after the sack/fumble is a 3rd stringer performance?
    It was better than RW3’s performance. Do some of you just blab a bunch of crap and see what sticks??

  67. GeorgiaHawk says:

    mocarob- I’m just going to assume you were drunk last night and didn’t see my second post on Flynn-
    “Flynn doing much better in his second drive”.

    I also said “so far” on my first post about him.

  68. montanamike2 says:

    Some of the links posted in the last few days have given me malware-beware.

  69. seahawksteven777 says:

    Flynn is not starter material in my opinion. He’s basically starting by default because it’s the Raiders and they have nothing, yet.

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