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Morning links: Mock game today

Post by Eric Williams on Aug. 2, 2013 at 8:06 am with 48 Comments »
August 2, 2013 9:55 am
Seattle Seahawks' Benson Mayowa heads off the field following an NFL football training camp Wednesday, July 31, 2013, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)
Seattle Seahawks’ Benson Mayowa heads off the field following an NFL football training camp Wednesday, July 31, 2013, in Renton, Wash. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

The Seahawks will go through a mock game this morning on the team’s eighth day of training camp, which will include officials, down markers and the offense driving the ball on the defense.

Head coach Pete Carroll said the scrimmage will give the coaching staff another opportunity to evaluate players before the team’s first exhibition game on Thursday at San Diego.

“It’s a test day for them,” Carroll said. “It’s to show us where they are and how far they’ve come. We are one week away from the (opening exhibition) game and we will try to make evaluations. It’s a big day for those guys. All of the guys are competing for their spots. It’s a great chance for them to show that they are … willing to contribute.”

My notebook today also has a little more on undrafted rookie free agent Benson Mayowa (pictured above), who has a chance to be this year’s J.R. Sweezy because of the injuries at defensive end.

“The one thing that struck me early is he’s ready to go compete,” Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn said. “There’s some guys who might step back when it really gets going, and he’s just the opposite. So I’m encouraged by what I see, and each day we’re developing him.”

Also, The Seahawks waived/injured Steilacoom High graduate Greg Herd on Thursday.

The Eastern Washington University receiver sat out most of Thursday’s practice with what appeared to be a shoulder injury.

The Seahawks cut Herd because they needed the extra spot on the 90-man roster to add receiver Perez Ashford.

The Seahawks claimed Ashford, a Northern Illinois product, off waivers from New England.

Seattle also signed undrafted rookie tight end Andrei Lintz, a former star at Meridian High near Bellingham and Washington State University. In order to make room for Lintz, the Seahawks released running back Ray Holley

Check out highlights on Ashford below.

Also, here’s a picture of offensive lineman John Moffitt and his snug shorts.

Seattle Seahawks offensive lineman John Moffitt (Eric Williams/The News Tribune)
Seattle Seahawks offensive lineman John Moffitt (Eric Williams/The News Tribune)

Clare Farnsworth of notes that Red Bryant has embraced his elder status on the team.

More Farnsworth: A run down from Thursday’s practice.

Danny O’Neil of 710 ESPN Seattle writes that second round draft choice Christine Michael is making a strong impression.

Bob Stelton and Dave Grosby talk with Earl Thomas about being one of the leaders on defense in this audio link.

Bob Condotta of The Seattle Times takes a closer look at the candidates for returning kicks with Percy Harvin out.

Matt Maiocco of reports the 49ers received more bad news on the injury front on Thursday, as cornerback Chris Culliver suffered a torn ACL in his knee and is out for the year.

Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports examines the transformation of the NFL West from a finesse division to one of the most physical divisions in the league.

Rich Cimini of ESPN New York talks with Jets tight end Kellen Winslow, who’s still upset at the way the Seatle cut him last year. Winslow: “They cut me over money. They put me in a bad situation. I can’t even speak on it. It’s just frustrating what happened. You just don’t do a vet like that.”

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  1. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Lol on the snug shorts.

    Yank- Very good article on the NFC west.

    Really Winslow?-

  2. yankinta says:

    GeorgiaHawk, I really don’t care about Winslow,, he picked Miami over U-Dub and I disowned him at that point…

    But in retrospect, I think he would have played better than McCoy and not dropped that 27th TD pass by RW,, by being SOFT…
    And I also that he may not have fallen down and helped us with that game against the Rams and we would have been the 2nd Seed in the playoff….

  3. abqhwkfn says:

    Christine Micheal is an interesting option to return kicks. Im looking forward to seeing what he can do in the preseason games. The Dline play will be interesting as well. Lots of competition there.

  4. tealskin says:

    Yank- You would pin your hopes on a wreck like Winslow? Really, Winslow?

  5. ohiohawkfan says:

    yankinta – On Winslow… he could have also been hurt week 1 last year and cashed in on a big pay day and never played another down for Seattle. The risk was not worth the reward.

  6. Southendzone says:

    Is Culliver the 49’er that got worked over in the Superbowl after making anti-gay comments?

  7. Hey Mr Williams!

  8. yankinta says:

    ohiohawkfan, lol, yeah that’s true… :)

  9. NWPoseidon says:

    Andrei Lintz is an interesting signing. He always got rave reviews on his athleticism and blocking while at WSU but due to a porous line he never truly got the opportunity to get in the receiving game during actual games.

  10. seahawkNJ says:

    SouthEZ – Yes, same guy.

  11. Great article Yankita. Winslow is a punk…I’m with ya on the whole UW thing. Regarding return duties, I’d like:

    Tate-o-matic on Punts
    The Fast Lane on Kickoffs

    I think his running style most resembles Harvin’s, not to mention speed.

    Michael is getting to be more and more intriguing. He’s not getting a lot of attention in Fantasy Football circles, but I think he may have a bigger role than what we’re being led to believe. Lynch is the man, but I’d like to see him carry the rock less during the regular season so he’s super fresh for the post season. If we have any more blowout games this year, let Turbo and C-Mike close ‘em out for us.


  12. I missed this story from a couple days ago:

    Not sure if it was strictly the arrest, or more of a general age/talent decline thing, but too bad for Hill if this thing ended his Hawks career. Feels like it wouldn’t be bad to add him as depth to a somewhat thin position on the team, though I do trust JS’s judgment in these matters.

  13. Yankinta–Winslow is not the same type of TE as McCoy. McCoy can do it all, and is a pretty fine blocker much of the time. Winslow is a slot WR labeled TE. The guy cant/wont block.

    Seattle let Winslow go not because he didnt play well in preseason–he did–but because he was too expensive, his knee required too much maintenance (ie, few practices), he got beaten out by McCoy who is much more versatile, and he has a pretty big attitude…

    McCoy did a bunch of stuff well that Winslow couldnt have, and overall we didnt need him. Yeah, I kinda wish they would have given him a shot too, but Im more bummed about losing McCoy this year, as it means we really dont have a backup to Miller on the team. We’re gonna have to hope to find one near final cuts at the end of preseason from another team, and that wont be enough time to get them up to speed before half the seasons gone…

  14. yankinta says:

    Nah, I’m glad we’re letting someone else compete for backup TE spot. Like I said, I’m still mad about McCoy catching a pass in the red zone by RW on the last game of the season, and instead of running straight into the End Zone to give RW 27th TouchDown,, he run sideway because he did not want to take on the CB.

    I was yelling at the TV,, Dude, you are SOFT!! You do not need to run away from contact from a CB,,

    The next play we run it in but I was so mad. With the TD record, RW would have the Greatest Rookie Season ever by a QB….

  15. bbnate420 says:

    yank, doesn’t sound like Willson is ready to do much but come in occasionally on passing downs. It seems short-sighted to write a player off over play.

    I don’t wish injury on players, but it’s hard to feel bad for Chris “Sweet Stuff” Culliver.

  16. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    yankinta, nice article. nothing to be mad about yankinta if wilson wanted the record he makes the pass to miller, instead he runs it in.
    classy thing to do in my book.

    winslow cracks me up sounds to me like he is saying” i am a vet so you have to keep me”

  17. Yankinta–I highly doubt McCoy was afraid of contact with a cb, on that or any other play. He blocks men a lot bigger and stronger, and blocks them well. He just made a snap decision to try a different route into the end zone, and it didnt work out…it happens. But making the wrong decision doesnt make him soft.

    As for that one play being the proximate cause for RW not breaking Mannings record, thats ridiculous! He only had to avg less than 2 TD’s per game over the final 3-4 games, and Seattle’s staff played it a little too close to the vest. They could have, and should have, made sure he broke that record before late in the final game of the season.

    But they called a pass play out of a run formation on RW’s final (rushing) TD; the Rams made the decision to line up in a run-defense formation, then drop guys into coverage instead. They decided to prevent giving up the record at all costs at the expense of winning a game–a freaking sad decision if you ask me. Seattle thought they had the perfect play to get RW the record, and when the Rams looked to have it covered, RW made the decision to run it in and put the game away rather than risk not scoring a TD. Classy guy!

    Putting the blame on McCoy for that one play is silly, ignorant, and just plain wrong.

  18. Seattle should consider making a trade for a backup TE to Miller right now, to get them here in time to participate in camp. They have quite a bit of trade bait, if you ask me. If teams are paying attention, we have plenty of guys that might not make the team that are worth getting now, instead of waiting for us to waive them at final cuts.

  19. bbnate420 says:

    *It should have said over ONE play.

  20. SandpointHawk says:

    “Seattle thought they had the perfect play to get RW the record, and when the Rams looked to have it covered, RW made the decision to run it in and put the game away rather than risk not scoring a TD. Classy guy!”

    Compare that to the infamous story below from the last game of the 2004 season.

    “Shaun Alexander finished 1 yard shy of tying for the NFL rushing championship yesterday, and the Seahawks’ Pro Bowl running back was not happy about it.

    “This is the first time I’ve ever been back-stabbed in my life,” Alexander said in the Qwest Field locker room after the Seahawks won the NFC West title by outlasting the Atlanta Falcons 28-26.

    The focus of Alexander’s frustration was what proved to be the game-winning touchdown in the fourth quarter. Faced with a second-and-goal from the Falcons’ 1-yard line with 4 1/2 minutes to play, the call was for a sneak by quarterback Matt Hasselbeck.


  21. abqhwkfn says:

    What time is the mock game today? Will it be live on

  22. Sandpoint–I personally dont see the connection. Alexander deserved the record, as he’d been pulled out of games early quite often. They had the opportunity to give the ball to Sean, and if that didnt work, try something else. Holmgren said afterward that he wasnt aware that Alexander was that close to the record–but he should have been; its part of his job.

    That said, Holmgrens focus was on winning a close game, and while it was likely that given one or two chances, Alexander would have gotten the TD, its was a great call for Hass to sneak, and it worked and we won the game–which was far more important.

    And Alexander should have kept his mouth shut in public, and sat down with Holmgren in his office to air his grievance. Instead, he acted emotionally and selfishly.

    Then again, Hutch kept his frustrations to himself, then shat on Holmgren and the fans, as if him or us had anything to do with Hutch’s pissy tude. So that wasnt the way to be either…

    But yes, RW is a total class act. He’s so perfect its almost disgusting.

  23. freedom_X says:

    Winslow didn’t do anything last year for New England or any other team. Seattle was 100% correct to let him go.

    The attitude that he should get special treatment because Winslow’s a vet is exactly the attitude Pete Carroll hates. Carroll wants competition as we all know, not entitlement. With that statement from Winslow, it’s more apparent than ever why Winslow was released.

  24. SandpointHawk says:

    Two stars with records within reach, last game of the season, both fail to get the record, but the team gets the touchdown and the win….I guess I can’t help you if you don’t see a parallel there. Never mind….

  25. bbnate420 says:

    abqhwkfn, It starts at 1. Should have some of it on the website.

  26. GeorgiaHawk says:

    SandpointHawk- I see the connection. So glad Wilson is not self absorbed.

  27. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BTW- I apologize for going off on Rang (last thread). I was pissed about his analysis of Willson.
    It just seemed to me that it was unfair to analyze a rookie that way after just a little over a week of practice and with a shoulder injury too.

    I don’t really know how any of these rookies will turn out, however I think they all need more time to develop, learn the playbook, and show what they can do in games before they start getting professionally analyzed.

  28. Georgia–Aside from you having a man-crush on Willson, I cant see why you overreacted to Rang’s comments. By all accounts, Willson has speed and can catch, but isnt as agile as a WR, and doesnt block well. Thats pretty much what everyone is saying, not just Rang.

    Of course he looked great in shorts, but with live hitting, it would be ridiculous to expect the same level of play from a guy who barely played last year. And Rang isnt saying the guy wont turn out, just reporting what he looks like now–and what he is; a rookie that has a ways to go before he contributes much to the team.

    What would expect from a fifth-rounder?! They cant all be Richard Shermans!

  29. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- I was well into happy hour. Give me a break, I was Beermotional.

  30. Beermotional! I love it!

    No worries man, I wasnt mad atcha, just messin’ a little lol!

    Youre all good in my book.

  31. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I woke up this morning and thought, “what the hell did your drunk ass say yesterday?”
    Really, for the record, overall I like Rang, except that he looks similar my brother in law ( who is a builder and crook ).

  32. Georgia–We’ve all been there–or at least I have. No biggee. Now if only a few other commenters would wake up asking the same question, and make ammends…

  33. Not hearing anything about Bates…wonder why?

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I thought Bates would shine this year. Apparently not.

  35. yankinta says:

    lol,, McCoy is 6′ 5″, 259 lbs. I seriously doubt Winslow or Mike Rob or Lynch,, even Golden Tate would not Run AT that CB to get that touchdown,, that’s why I say he’s SOFT. That’s just my opinion,, you all don’t have to agree with me. :)

  36. PEARLJAM23 says:

    Touchdown Seahawks!!!! Wilson to Willson!

  37. PEARLJAM23 says:

    Damn. My first post in years and I messed it up….

    I was watching the live feed from practice and the play was on the far side of the field. Wilson passed it to Willson over the middle for a small gain. That I thought was a TD. But it wasn’t. Guess I just got excited……

    Go Hawks!!

  38. bbnate420 says:

    STTBM, who are we referring to?

    Willson actually looked pretty good today from what I saw. Had a nice catch in the red zone for a TD. Looked better than I thought he would blocking on a couple of running plays. Certainly didn’t look good blocking, but he held his own. I couldn’t really see who he was blocking though.

  39. PearlJam-Good to have you back! Thanks for selling us those tickets to the 9ers game a few years ago! Hope you and your wife are doing well!

  40. raymaines says:

    About the KW2 thing: Seattle traded a conditional 7th round to TB for him and one of the conditions was he would take a pay cut. He, his agent and the Seahawks had agreed in principle to a number, but at the end of the pre-season KW2 reneged on his promise and declined to accept a pay cut. Seattle was left in an impossible position, it was either let him go or admit to your own guys and every free agent in the world that this management team could be pushed around.

    He made one catch for 12 yards in one game for New England before being released and didn’t get picked up the rest of the year. I’m thinking we didn’t miss much. This will be a fun story to follow, but I think it only shows what a train wreck the NYJ’s are.

  41. Welcome Early Doucet!

  42. Yankinta – you said you were going to a practice – what did you see? interested in you observations.

    Sorry if you already posted somewhere

  43. PEARLJAM23 says:


    Hello. Your welcome. I’ve been on the sidelines reading. My wife and I have been great thanks. I enjoyed reading your articles. Nice job on those! Hope you and your family are doing well!

  44. I’m planning on making a visit to Seattle if the Hawks can host the NFC Championship Game. I’ll buy you a beer or two if you’ll be there too!

  45. PEARLJAM23 says:

    That sounds great! That would be awesome if that worked out! We will be there!

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