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Morning links: Super Bowl hopes remain in tact

Post by Eric Williams on July 26, 2013 at 7:20 am with 63 Comments »
July 26, 2013 7:20 am
Seattle Seahawks fan Phil Andruss spikes and colors his hair to lend his support to the Hawks. (LUI KIT WONG/Staff photographer)
Seattle Seahawks fan Phil Andruss spikes and colors his hair to lend his support to the Hawks. (LUI KIT WONG/Staff photographer)

Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes that after Day I of perhaps the most anticipated opening of training camp in franchise history, the Seattle Seahawks remain undefeated, and visions of reaching a Super Bowl are still in tact.

Boling: “Super Bowl hopes remained alive for the Seattle Seahawks on Thursday after a two-hour workout without pads.

Word from San Francisco was that the 49ers remain undefeated, as well, keeping their Super Bowl aspirations likewise intact.

Don’t scoff. This is how 2013 is shaping up, each day a referendum on the Seahawks’ status relative to the highest preseason appraisals in team history.

Clearly not a group short on confidence as it is, the players for the Seahawks don’t appear burdened by the weight of external expectations.”

Here’s my story on Percy Harvin’s hip injury.

And my notebook on the return of James Carpenter.

Leah Traxel of The News Tribune gives us the fan perspective from the first day of training camp.

Check out a photo gallery from training camp here.

Curtis Crabtree of Pro Football Talk reports that Brandon Browner received a raise in the final year of his contract with the Seahawks.

Clare Farnsworth of provides this detailed practice report from Thursday.

ESPN’s Mike Sando provides his thoughts on a timetable for Harvin’s injury.

Doug Farrar of Yahoo Sports writes that Harvin’s injury could open up more opportunities for Golden Tate.

Dennis Dillan of Sports Illustrated believes injuries to Harvin and Michael Crabtree could boost the Rams in the NFC West.

Brady Henderson of 710 ESPN Seattle breaks down Russell Wilson’s conversation with Brock Huard and Danny O’Neil at the VMAC on Thursday.

Jerry Brewer of The Seattle Times says the build up is over, and now we can at least focus on what is happening on the field with the Seahawks. Brewer: “The atmosphere matched the runaway hype of the past half-year, a feat you should consider the unofficial first victory of the 2013 season. For months, many have pondered what this day would be like, creating ridiculous expectations for an opening practice, let alone the real season. But the excitement of this day was exactly what had been envisioned — save for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell rushing onto the field, Lombardi Trophy in hand, and declaring that the league wouldn’t bother wasting the next six months because the Seahawks are too damned good.”

Chris Brown of Grantland has a nice breakdown on how to stop the read-option offense. It’s definitely worth a look this morning.

Bucky Brooks of gives us the top dual threat quarterbacks to watch for in college, led by the University of Oregon’s Marcus Mariota.

Morning links
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  1. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Best news from yesterday imo is Carp.

    Funny what McGrath had to say about his beard-

    “I look at it as, girls wear short shorts because they want to flaunt their legs, so why not flaunt something as beautiful as my facial hair?”

  2. bbnate420 says:

    I guess it’s a good think the Hawks didn’t draft Swope like some here wanted. Sad news for the kid.

  3. SandpointHawk says:

    Chihuly knees? Great turn of a phrase Dave…

  4. RDPoulsbo says:

    Now the sports media is going into rediculous hyperbole. Now, ESPN is saying potentially season ending (not unless he has A-Roid’s highly unlikely version) and now it opens the door for the Rams to win the West? All while it’s a good possibility that Harvin won’t even need surgery. Let’s not get carried away here.

    I do think defenses will be better prepared for the read-option, but it’s not going to effect the Hawks as much as the Panthers, Redskins or the 49ers who run it way more. As a small part of the offensive package, the Hawks might be more effective with it by catching the DE off guard. If anything, showing a shotgun with RBs in the backfield will slow the pass rush even if it’s not a read-option play.

  5. why are these 4o whinner fans laughing at us because we might lose Percy Harvin for a couple weeks or months they act like we was winning with him last season news flash we didn’t have Percy in we still 11-5. yeah it sucks because Seattle phase him too much money and gave up draft picks for him. Let the media keep fooling themselves thinking we can’t win without PH. Go Hawks!!!

  6. WiscCory says:

    Am I naive, or is it appropriate to think it’s a premature assumption to think Harvin is missing any regular season games yet?

    Also, where was he last week when he tweaked it? Will Carroll and the Hawks be getting fined for no following player’s union rules on practice again?

  7. WiscCory says:

    BTW, I’d like to see a photo shop pic of Phil Andruss combined with McGrath.

  8. SaigonSun says:

    Sad news on Ryan Swope. I liked him a lot ( as a WR in college). Now , that he is no longer a Cardinal, I wish him the best.

  9. seahawksteven777 says:

    Just ignore the 49er fans. They always act so high and mighty as if no team can beat their team. A lot of them overlook the fact we easily could have swept them last year if the Hawks didn’t have a case of the drops.

  10. As a longtime Seahawks fan, just watching Russell Wilson’s press conference literally brings tears to my eyes. This guy is just too good to be true. Did we draft a QB or a motivational speaker/team president? He wants to be a CEO of a company after his career is over, but he could be the CEO of America one day. You’ll notice that fans of other teams also respect him, even the fans who hate the Seahawks. And he’s beloved by fans of NC State and Wisconsin. He just has so much charisma. He wins over media types who interview him. I’m pretty sure that’s why Florio has been high on him — it started after Florio met him during Super Bowl week. The difference between the good teams and the great teams is often the guy at QB, and I’m so thrilled we have our very own Montana/Marino/Manning/Brady.

  11. jawpeace says:

    Oh so many articles and so little time!

  12. bbnate420 says:

    WiscCory, you’re definitely not naive. You’re just being rational. The motivation of the media to make it a bigger story than it necessarily is and the intrinsic, pessimistic nature of many Hawks fans gives this story life. We just need to wait and see what the doctors say. Many minor labral tears do not require surgery, at least before the next off-season.

    BTW, some people have said that he got 25.5 mil guaranteed. That’s not true. Only 14 mil is guaranteed as of now. The other 11.5 mil is insured. The 11.5 mil becomes fully guaranteed if the Hawks keep him past the 5th day of the next league year I believe. I know it doesn’t become guaranteed until after 2013.

  13. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Well said Canfan.

    ET says-

    “I’ve told coach he needs to quit putting me in a box as far as me playing just the middle of the field. I was at the nickel position there, and it was just exciting to get a rep at nickel.”

    Does anyone think it would be a good idea to put ET in the nickel position more?


  14. GeorgiaHawk says:

    A lot of folks here suffer from premature speculation, including myself.

  15. bbnate420 says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing ET at nickel sometimes. It depends on who he’d be covering though. I don’t really want to see him matched up with TEs.

  16. NO, I never want to see Thomas in the nickel. We have Winfield and Thurmond and Lane and the backup safeties to play there. Thomas, on the few times I’ve seen him in nickel coverage, doesnt look that good. Stay where youre at dude, and be the best. Youre only a mediocre nickel back.

    He’s not the fundamentally sound beast of a tackler Winfield is, nor does he have Thurmonds length and experience covering one-on-one.

  17. Glad to see Browner got a well-deserved raise. He’s a far better player than he gets credit for, and should have made the Pro Bowl last year. I think he intends to try FA, and I dont blame him. I think we’re gonna lose him, which bums me out. His physical play makes a lot of things possible for the other guys on defense. He is the only player in the secondary who can just remove a guy from the play from the snap…

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I agree nate.
    ET at nickel sometimes could throw a new look that could help confuse an offense perhaps.

  19. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- Give ET a break, he just lost 20 lbs. Lol.

  20. bbnate420 says:

    This belief on this blog that Harvin has always been fragile just isn’t really based in reality IMO. He missed a whopping 3 regular season games in the 3 seasons before 2012. He missed 7 1/2 games in 2012 with a high ankle sprain which can be a severe injury. There is talk that he could’ve come back too but that they decided not to bring him back due to personal issues with the staff.

    Injuries happen in football. Duh! 10 games in 4 years doesn’t make him injury prone IMO. Especially since he probably wouldn’t have missed 7 games in 2012 based solely on health.

  21. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Wasn’t it ET that caused Harvins injury last year?

  22. bbnate420 says:

    Moffitt is running with the ones.

  23. bbnate420 says:

    Georgia, I think Wagner and ET tackled him on the play. Or at least they were both credited.

    Sick of hearing about HGH. We finally have real football. I’m more concerned with trying to keep anabolic steroids and new, designer forms of them out of the game than HGH.

  24. bbnate420 says:

    Carp looked like he had no limp. Seemed to be moving well to me.

  25. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Where are you seeing this Nate? Is there a live streamer of practice?

  26. SandpointHawk says:

    Nate, I saw that also, Think Tom C. might rotate them (Moffitt and The Sweez) daily until this gets settled. Carp looked pretty good in drills also. He seems to be moving well and holding his own…

  27. SandpointHawk says:

    Live stream at > videos > live video
    tomorrow @ 10 but probably closer to 10:30PST if it’s like the last two days.

  28. Can we have some info on the other Wilson? We need someone to step up at T.E

  29. chuck_easton says:

    Good to hear Moffett is with the ones today. I’m still pulling for him. If he can get himself out of the coaches doghouse and show he’s committed to being/staying in shape I think he’s an upgrade over Sweezy.

    I know this is just the comPete thing. Yesterday Sweezy with the ones. Today Moffett. Tomorrow, back to Sweezy…repeat as often as necessary until one emerges.

    As I said my heart is pulling for the Moff…just to weird a dude not to be a football player. If Sweez makes the push and takes the competition then GREAT! Either way the 0-line is better off with this competition.

    Not going to comment on the Harvin matter until we hear about the second opinion next Tuesday in NY. But, my gut instinct is telling me to prepare for the news of surgery and PUP in the near future. Again, more a feeling than being pessamistic.

  30. chrisj122 says:

    Can we please chill on the Super Bowl talk.

    I’m as excited as anyone about the potential for the season but let’s win the division first. We face a lot of good teams on the road this year.

  31. doubledink says:

    I’ve got the same feeling Chuck.

    Eric, can you ask PC who they foresee competing for KO returns?

  32. doubledink says:

    I’m liking the dreadless Thomas and Irvin. It’s probably nothing, but it has the feel of an attitude of increased commitment and getting very serious – if that’s even possible with these guys.

  33. Ewalters7354 says:

    STTBM,how can you just say ET is mediocre playing the slot? Did you forget how he took Amendola away in the week 16 matchup? Is Amendola a bad WR? Thurmond has length and all that good stuff but I’ve never seen him in the slot for a long period of time because he only played in maybe 8 games total, if that many.Can’t deny Winfield is the best slot
    corner in the game hands down ,but I don’t think we can just predict that ET isn’t that good playing the slot.Also ET is a very good tackler.Did you see how he was all over A.P, making td saving tackles? This is Adrian Peterson we are talking about! Yes he got trucked real bad in the Falcons game, but that isn’t any indication that he isn’t a sound tackler IMO.

    Please take this as friendly debate and not go ballistic ;)

  34. Ewalters7354 says:

    In reference to Amendola, I’m talking about the week 16 matchup a few years back when the Hawks became to first losing team to ever make the playoffs.Smh.Feels so good to finally be able to say we are the real deal.I am finally confident that the Hawks are gonna be a force to be reckoned with and not disappoint like the 06-07 Hawks.

  35. Ewalters–Amendola is a fine WR, and ET did better than our previous nickel backs covering him. But too many times when he played there, I would think to myself “Thats where the offense is gonna go; I hope they dont put a big WR or TE in the slot” and they would, and ET couldnt do anything….

    As for his tackling, he’s often very good–but he’s inconsistent, overrunning a player or taking a bad angle far too often to be labeled a “great” tackler. He has games where he’s fantastic, and ones where he makes far too many mistakes, or just gets beaten, in the slot or in run support, for my liking.

    He’s my favorite FS, and arguably the best coverage S in the game. But he isnt the best tackler nor is he great in the slot, he has some work to do there.

    No worries, most here seem to think he’s perfect in every way, and how dare you point out his high missed tackles. (and it isnt the stats that Im so concerned with, its HOW he missed those tackles, and how often.) And you are entitled to your opinion.

    As for me, I dont ever want to see a guy less than 5′-11″ not named Winfield in the slot for us, not as long as we have talented guys that tall or taller to try there.

  36. I just want to see solid G play at both positions for the first time since 2005. But I like Moffit and his goofiness, and he’s better in pass pro, so I guess Im rooting for him to beat out Sweezy. And of course I want to see Carpenter take over and dominate at LG. Paging McQ, to the bench…

  37. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM- I like Moffitt and his goofiness too, however Sweezy has so much more upside. I’m pulling for Sweezy, however Moffitt will be a good goofy backup.

  38. bbnate420 says:

    I agree, Georgia. Ultimately may the best player win, but I think Sweezy has the higher upside. Hopefully he can get it together in pass protection this year.

  39. bbnate420 says:

    Here’s the link to the practice coverage and the schedule. It’s on the Hawks website. I linked it a few days ago. I thought you read every post?

  40. trout_hound says:

    That live feed is a great, although it just reminds me how foolishly obsessed I am with a sports team. Talk about an unproductive morning. And watching drills isn’t exactly riveting, but the live scrimmage was fun to see. Seems like every time they show Quinn throwing, he’s off the mark. T-Jack looked OK though. Its fairly obvious why RW3 is our starter. He looks really decisive and accurate out there. Carpenter looks huge and slow, hopefully his conditioning will improve as camp goes on.

  41. bbnate420 says:

    The live feed would be a million times better if they had multiple cameras working, but it’s nice just to have it.

    Carp didn’t look any bigger than he should be. Being big is one of his assets. He looked to be moving well to me. Certainly better than when he was limping through the last couple of games or so.

  42. Ewalters7354 says:

    The only thing I don’t like about Tom Cable are these experiments. Sweezy to me isn’t really good.

  43. GeorgiaHawk says:

    trout_hound – Huge and slow, and rusty at best. I guess that means he’s in great shape.

  44. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Ewalters7354-Cable wouldn’t have to have experiments if Moffitt and Carpenter lived up to their hype.

  45. GeorgiaHawk says:

    So how many does this make for the Redskins?
    Looking at the Media you would think that the Seahawks were the only team with this problem.

  46. Ewalters7354 says:

    I agree Georgia

  47. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Tate, Baldwin news conference.

  48. “That live feed is a great, although it just reminds me how foolishly obsessed I am with a sports team.”

    Yeah, me too. Wish I could just watch a 10-minute highlight package of practice.

    I usually try to ignore preseason as much as possible — that way, the regular season gets here faster. But this year, with the high expectations, it’s hard for me to do that.

  49. bbnate420 says:

    I don’t get why anyone would be against the Sweezy experiment? They took a 7th round flier on converting a DL to OG and he freakin STARTED games his rookie year. His first year playing OG. He’s already good in the run game and has serious upside. They got him with a pick gained by trading the world-beater known as Aaron Curry. He likely will end up contributing more than Curry did. Certainly a better return for the cost. Why not develop him? If Moffitt outplays him then I believe he will start. Simple.

  50. SandpointHawk says:

    I don’t understand bloggers asking where to find the practice feed (after it is over) and then later making comments on what they didn’t see…As my friend Big Easy would say… Smh… Good Lord (TOHD) I guess we are all experts here on TNT…

  51. SandpointHawk says:

    trout_hound… I agree the thing I took away from two days of practice watching Quinn is he looks like a QB but he’s got no touch on his throws…

  52. GeorgiaHawk says:

    SandpointHawk- Sounds like you are disgruntled. Perhaps you need to vent. Perhaps you just need to, never mind, lol.

  53. SandpointHawk says:

    Nope as a matter of fact I’m very Gruntled… :)

  54. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    STTBM, agreed on guard play would be great. what i would really like to see is little drop off if one of the starters get hurt. i think we are closer to having very good depth on the OL than at any other time.

  55. I saw #72 a little bit out there playing defense thursday and didn’t notice anything like his arm hanging down by his side, or anything, but can anyone report on Michael Bennett’s practicing? He had a torn labrum in his shoulder – no?

  56. raymaines says:

    Isn’t “in tact” one word?

  57. Ewalters7354 says:

    klm-he has a torn rotator cuff.

  58. Thanx EWalters – that makes an AHA! difference between MB and PH.

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