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TNT 2013 NFL draft preview: OL to consider

Post by Eric Williams on April 23, 2013 at 12:05 pm with 52 Comments »
April 23, 2013 12:05 pm
Oregon offensive linesman Kyle Long (74) during the Fiesta Bowl NCAA college football game against Kansas State Thursday, Jan. 3, 2013, in Glendale, Ariz. Oregon defeated Kansas State 35-17.  (Rick Scuteri/AP Images)
Oregon offensive linesman Kyle Long (74) during the Fiesta Bowl NCAA college football game against Kansas State Thursday, Jan. 3, 2013, in Glendale, Ariz. Oregon defeated Kansas State 35-17. (Rick Scuteri/AP Images)

The Seattle Seahawks have drafted four offensive linemen in the last three years during general manager John Schneider and head coach Pete Carroll’s time with the team.

Three of them have emerged as starters in left tackle Russell Okung (first round, 2010), left guard James Carpenter (first round, 2011) and right guard J.R. Sweezy (seventh round, 2012), while one as provided a competent and versatile backup in John Moffitt (third round, 2011).

Offensive line coach and zone blocking guru Tom Cable gives Seattle some added flexibility because of his ability to develop unpolished talent into serviceable starters that fit his scheme like Breno Giacomini and Rishaw Johnson.

But according to the latest salary cap figures released by the NFLPA, the Seahawks are nudging closer to the salary cap limit, with $7.2 million in cap space for 2013. And that does not include the Kam Chancellor deal.

So players like versatile offensive lineman Paul McQuistan ($3 million base salary in 2013) and Giacomini ($3.5 million in base salary in 2013) may be asked to restructure their contracts if supplanted in the starting lineup by younger alternatives.

The Seahawks were one of the dominant running teams in the league last year, finishing third in rushing offense 161.2 per contest. Seattle’s offensive line allowed just 33 sacks in 2012, tied with Washington for No. 12 in the league.

Oregon offensive tackle Kyle Long has become a popular choice in mock drafts for Seattle second round. At 6-6 and 313 pounds, the son of former Oakland defensive tackle Howie Long has good athleticism, played in the zone blocking scheme for the Ducks and could make an easy transition to Seattle’s scheme.

Rob Rang, senior draft analyst fir, gives us is offensive linemen to consider for the Seattle Seahawks.

2 (56) Kyle Long, 6-6, 313, Oregon
Rob’s rationale: Intriguing project. Big man with impressive athleticism. Only played three years of football after signing with Florida State as a pitcher. Son of Howie, brother of Chris.

3 (87) David Bakhtiari, 6-4, 299, Colorado
Rob’s rationale: Left tackle for the Buffs but may not possess the length, flexibility to remain there. Good athlete and plays with some nastiness.

4 (123) Brennan Williams, 6-6, 318, North Carolina
Rob’s rationale: Highly athletic right tackle. Dad, Brent, played DL for Seahawks. Won’t last this long if teams are convinced he’s healthy after labrum ruined 2012 season.

5 (138, 158) Earl Watford, 6-4, 300, James Madison
Rob’s rationale: Dominant small-school guard who has impressed scouts with his athleticism and tenacity. Solid week at the East-West Shrine Game.

6 (194) Jeff Baca, 6-4, 302, UCLA
Rob’s rationale: Tough, versatile offensive lineman with starting experience at OG and OT. Some believe his best position in NFL is at center.

7 (220, 231, 241 and 242) Tanner Hawkinson, 6-5, 298, Kansas
Rob’s rationale: Former tight end who emerged as four-year starter at OT. Needs time in the weight room but an athletic, battle-tested project with some upside.

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  1. Bakhtiari sounds like a Cable type of guy as does Watford

  2. chuck_easton says:

    I’d be shocked to see Seattle take an offensive lineman in the second round with so many other needs…

    Oh wait, this is JS/PC we are talking about.

    Welcome to Seattle Mr. Long, do you like playing RT?

  3. owenbytheway says:

    Step right into the freaky talents of Terron Armstead OL with the second.

  4. I have Brennan Williams in my mock, as a Tar Heel fan, I’m really in love with his potential.

  5. I actually have Baca too, lol.

  6. Dukeshire says:

    I don’t know about *so* many other needs, but o line certainly wouldn’t seem to be at the top of their list.

  7. I agree with the Kyle Long and David Bakhtiari selections. After those two I don’t think that the other OTs represent an upgrade over Breno.

    My thought is that our first three picks are used for best available player who is an OT, OLB or TE.

  8. I like Kyle Long in the 2nd. I watched him all year at O (on TV) and see him as another steal for the Hawks.

  9. owenbytheway says:

    Third day on the OLine I like visitors David Quessenbury as a 4th and Ryan Jensen as one of their 7ths. Watch for the longshots Luke Marquardt of Issaquah, the athletic Vincent Painter who has played all over the line at Virginia Tech, and Garrett Gilkey … but those are all just stabs.

    Of course with PC and The Schneid, anything is a stab.

    Remember selections in this blog last year?

    Ah, yes, humility.

  10. It would be awesome to see the son of a Seahawk become a Seahawk.

    Excellent premise, that Seattle may look to shave salary with Breno and McQ, I was just thinking about that. I think they draft an OL or two, and let camp sort it out–though I dont know about second round. If they can go cheaper on the line, they will; gotta cut some salary somehow.

    If Carp looks good to go, and Moffit/Sweezy sorts itself, I see them offering McQ an ultimatum; take a cut or beat it. But who knows?! Could be wishful thinking.

  11. Singularitarian says:

    So I was wrong about Chancellor… I really thought they looked at him as an expendable guy and thought he could be one guy out the door when all these rookie contracts start expiring. Obviosly my view was not shared by the front office. Now is the first time I’m really sarting to get worried about cap space/Don’t get me wrong, Chance is one of my favorites. Perhaps Sherman will not be a long term Seahawk. God I hate that idea

  12. Singularitarian says:

    By the way. I got a new computer and it is saying “javascript required to post” where I should have the sign in option. I have tried to follow all the Allow scripting procedures in Internet Explorer but it always says it. I am typing now on my old computer. Any ideas from you tech savvy cats? I haven’t had the problem on any other websites yet…

  13. I think with the confidence PC has in Tom Cable that they will be perfectly good with waiting on an OL until the mid-rounds or later. I mean who else can take a relatively unknown college DL, draft him in the 7th and turn him into a day 1 starting OL?

    So personally I think we’ll end up with either a LB or a DT in round two and the opposite in round 3. Beyond that I would expect we’ll see them pick one or more DL, LB, OL, RB, and safety. And maybe we might see them grab a kicker somewhere along the way. And don’t be surprised to see them pick up a “leftover” DE for the vet league minimum (even though they only have around 7M under the cap atm).

  14. RDPoulsbo says:

    Singular, we’ve been seeing this at work since Java pushed out their latest update. Sucks, but as of now, we’ve been rolling back to version 6 until they can clean up 7.

  15. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I could see the Seahawks taking a player like Kyle Long in round two.

    Didn’t Long play against Wilsons high school teams in football and baseball?

    I think the Seahawks major needs where addressed in free agency and the trade for Harvin.
    So I can see them drafting just about any position early in this draft.

    And I would be very happy if it were a Tackle or Guard. If not I will still be happy.
    Really does it matter that much now that we have the QB that will get us a SuperBowl win or more.

  16. Singularitarian says:

    RD, I have not a clue what that means as I am computer illiterate

  17. If having a QB is all it took to win a Super Bowl then Marino would have some rings. Unfortunately for him, the other draft picks matter too and just because we have a talented roster — yes continuing to hit on our draft picks is important.

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Marino was a jerk to his WRs. Yes he put up alot of yards, however he was no Joe Montana in regards to creating chemistry with his team, and he certainly was no Joe when it came to clutch drives to win games.

    Wilson is so much more like Montana than hot head Marino.

    BTW- Nice try taking my “Really does it matter that much now that we have the QB that will get us a SuperBowl win or more” out of context.

    We all know it takes more than an elite QB to win it all, however in regards to this draft it won’t matter much who the FO picks imo because #1 We have an elite QB, (not your Flynn) but Russell Wilson. #2- We have an elite WR, ( not your Rice) But Percy Harvin. #3- we have an elite RB, Lynch. #4 We have a good defense.

    Now will you buy that for a dollar? Lol.

  19. raymaines says:

    GH: I don’t have a clue about Marino’s personality but I would rather the Seahawks had drafted him than Curt Warner.

    I’ve been listening to the talking morons all day and am now convinced the ‘Hawks should spend their entire draft on O-Lineman

    Twelve hours ago I was all for a DT or two and a LB or two, and maybe a TE and saftey but now it’s all about the O-Line. It seems that RW was “hurried” on about 80% of the offensive plays last year, the highest ratio in the NFL. We need more and better lineman I tell ya! Never mind that RW was only sacked 32 times, tied for 12th in the NFL, and we had the 2nd or 3rd best running attack in the league, we need more linemen. Throw Carpenter, Moffet, Sweezy and Giacomini out and start all over.

  20. HonHawksLSB says:

    Heard an interview with Kam and he basically said that the Legion of Boom is staying together for Years to come even if somebody has to take a pay cut (possibly ET down the line) to stay vs free agency.

    Singu- I wouldn’t worry about our cap. Big 1 year contracts will be off the books next year and we haven’t really asked anybody to restructure their deals which is an indication of cap trouble and will lead to future cap issues.

    JS has this team dialed in on all fronts.

  21. Georgia – I disagree. I think you think the Seahawks could win the Super Bowl with just Wilson on the team. Am I right? He could throw to himself and block and tackle and kick extra points.

    I can’t quite bet a dollar though. I’d have to go with ninety-nine cents – you know what I mean? :)

    Take a joke… it’s good for you (I know you know the draft is important – everyone does; you’ve told me to be less sensitive so you should follow the same prescription).

  22. After watching a whole bunch of fairly worthless blather on NFL Network today, I am once again glad we traded our first round pick for Percy Harvin. Not only did we get a sure thing as a player, but I get to ignore the first round draft blather.

    That said, not having a pick until the end of the second round sure makes it hard to mock the draft. I see a number of guys I want as Seahawks, but have to admit I have little idea who they will draft.

  23. On the O-line, I’m still of the opinion that what our line lacks is not talent, its maturity and time playing together. Lots of O lines that have won super bowls included a bunch of unheralded guys who worked side-by-side for years until they became champions. I’d rather see Tom Cable commit to our best 5 starters and keep them together, rather than throwing new rookies into the mix.

  24. bbnate420 says:

    Singular, I’m no computer genius, but I would recommend that you download Firefox as a browser. Explorer is a browser if you didn’t know, Firefox is just a different and better one IMO. Just Google it and it lets you easily download it. It’s free. I would think that might solve your problem.

    The javascript thing might mean that you need to download the newest version of Java too? Does anyone more knowledgeable here know? Downloading Java would be the same thing. Just Googling it and following the download instructions.

  25. bbnate420 says:

    I don’t see the Hawks taking a O-lineman before the 4th, unless someone they really likes drops unexpectedly. I think they take a OT is the 4th or with one of their 5ths. I shouldn’t be helping you guys with your mock drafts, I’m gonna win again this year. In reality, I’ll probably end up getting zero picks right.

  26. montanamike2 says:

    Java has some serious security flaws, enough that about 5 weeks ago they recomended disabling it. My guess is the new version didn’t do what they hoped to accomplish, i removed mine. I’ve used firefox for years and it is attacked on a much lower scale than IE, it sucks that other countries have teams of malicous hackers employed full time just to steal our info and create havock.

  27. montanamike2 says:

    I think DT and OLB are priorities with possibly a flier on a kicker and OL, but i can’t even pretend to know what our board looks like. I am suspicious that PC/JS are attending the 1st day of the draft even though they’re insisting they won’t budge. I don’t even know if this draft is as talent poor as they claim, if we move up to snag even a couple of gems, it’ll be a victory.

  28. Southendzone says:

    Raymaines, while I didn’t take any stats, that’s what it looked like to me watching all the games last year. RW was hurried a LOT, and while in many cases it meant him doing something great on the run and improvising, I want him to have a more comfortable pocket to get his job done. I want us to draft the best OL talent available.

  29. montanamike2 says:

    If RW wasn’t Tarkinson like he would have been sacked 3 times as much.

  30. SaigonSun says:

    Tarkinson? Check your history books . Don’t claim it’s a typo either. S and t aren’t that close

  31. Tarkenton + Wilson = Tarkinson

  32. bbnate420 says:

    Audible = LOL. I’m no internet expert, but I’m 99 % sure that Firefox or Safari is a better Web Browser than Explorer. I would recommend downloading one of these different IBs before trying anything else. They shouldn’t give you a virus or Ef anything up at least if they don’t work.

  33. bbnate420 says:

    Bonus question. How many times was FRAN TARKENTON sacked per year in his 18 year career?

    What was his QB rating? Remember, they didn’t give WRs free reign in those days.

  34. grizindabox24 says:

    Think the Hawks cap space is around $4.7 million after figuring in Kam’s new deal. They would like to have around $6 million to rollover into next season.

  35. grizindabox24 says:

    Hawks will look DL, preferably a DT and OL, a RT that can play guard if necessary.

  36. grizindabox24 says:

    I also think the Hawks may look at a fullback in the draft

  37. If they only have $4.7M left, and they need to roll over $6M, how are they going to do that AND pay the rookies we draft this year?

  38. grizindabox24 says:

    Audible, you will see a couple veteran guys get released and replaced with rookie contracts. They need $6 million rollover to maintain the same cap level next season. Anything under that and they will have a lower cap number next season than this season.

  39. grizindabox24 says:

    Audible, there are a few guys that fit that bill…McQ, Mike Rob, and Farwell to name a few. My guess is that McQ and Farwell are most likely, but we will know more after the draft, so watch the positions that the hawks grab.

  40. bbnate420 says:

    They have 7.2 mil in cap space. Minus 3 mil for signing draft picks. That’s 4.2 mil. Maybe they go with that, I bet they hope a few young players step up so they can cut a few players and leave themselves a little more room.

  41. grizindabox24 says:

    bbnate, Kam’s 2013 number went from $1.3 million to $3.8 million with his new contract.

  42. grizindabox24 says:

    John Boyle ‏@johnpboyle 1h
    The NFL list of teams’ available cap space now has the #Seahawks at $4.698 million after factoring in Kam Chancellor contract.
    Retweeted by Danny Kelly

  43. grizindabox24 says:

    Kam Chancellor’s base salary, per NFLPA database. 2013–$2.825 M, 2014–$4.725 M, 2015–$4.55 M, 2016–$5.1 M, 2017–$6.8 M

    Also signing bonus prorated $1 M per year

    Total cap hit
    2013 — $3.825

  44. bbnate420 says:

    Thanks, griz. So that means the first 3 years are guaranteed along with his 5 mil signing bonus?

  45. grizindabox24 says:

    BVM ‏@_BVM 1h
    More details of Kam’s contract: $5M signing bonus and $2.8M 2013 salary gtd. 2014 and 2015 salaries ($4.7M and $4.6M) gtd for injury only
    Retweeted by Davis Hsu

    BVM ‏@_BVM 1h
    If Kam underperforms in 2013 and needs to be cut, only $4M dead money hit. Minimal risk to team with long-term club control.

  46. bbnate420 says:

    Yes, I believe that’s the case. It replaces his old deal, 5.864 mil per year, right in line with what he should make IMO.

  47. grizindabox24 says:

    So in reality, only $7.8 million is fully guaranteed.

  48. bbnate420 says:

    After you minus signing draft picks, they’re going to have around 1.6 mil. I could now see McQ being cut if other players step up. That leaves them with another 3 mil.

    A lot of salary will likely come off after 2013. Clemons = 7.5 mil in 2014 cap space by releasing. Red or Bennett, 8.5 mil or 5 mil respectively in 2014. I expect them to keep one of the two. Breno = 4.25 mil coming off. Winfield = 2-3 mil. Approx. 5 mil in dead money coming off.

  49. grizindabox24 says:

    I know that if the Hawks cut CC this season, they will save $2.3M.

  50. grizindabox24 says:

    I can see Farwell gone also, would save the Hawks probably around $1M.

  51. grizindabox24 says:

    I also think the Hawks will draft a tackle this season hoping he can take Breno’s spot next season.

  52. raymaines says:

    I’m totally NOT an expert about anything remotely related to football, but Breno Giacomini is one of my favorite players of all time and I really hope there is not a tackle drafted to take his spot.

    Replace a guard, replace a linebacker, replace a Tight End or D-Tackle, but please not a replacement for BG. Come on Tom Cable, make this work.

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