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TNT 2013 NFL draft preview: WRs to consider

Post by Eric Williams on April 21, 2013 at 7:39 am with 66 Comments »
April 21, 2013 7:39 am
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs wide receiver Quinton Patton #4 makes a catch which is initially called incomplete but overturned upon review and called a touchdown in the first half of the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl College football game between the Louisiana Tech Bulldogs and the TCU Horned Frogs at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, CA. David Hood/Cal Sport Media. (Cal Sport Media via AP Images)
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs wide receiver Quinton Patton #4 makes a catch which is initially called incomplete but overturned upon review and called a touchdown in the first half of the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl College football game between the Louisiana Tech Bulldogs and the TCU Horned Frogs at Qualcomm Stadium in San Diego, CA. David Hood/Cal Sport Media. (Cal Sport Media via AP Images)

We begin our annual position-by-position look at this year’s draft with Rob Rang, senior draft analyst for, providing is perspective on this year’s draft class from a Seahawks’ perspective.

We thank Rob for once again taking the time out of his busy work week to do this.

Drafting productive receivers has not been one of the strengths for Seattle. The Seahawks have drafted 38 receivers in franchise history, and only one has made a Pro Bowl – Brian Blades in 1989.

Alex Bannister, a fifth round draft choice in 2001, made the Pro Bowl as a special teams player in 2003.

Perhaps the franchise’s best player, Hall of Famer Steve Largent, came to Seattle via trade with Houston at the team’s inception in 1976.

Seahawks general manager John Schneider’s record for drafting receivers has been a mixed bag as well.

He found some success in selecting Notre Dame’s Golden Tate in the second round of the 2010 draft. After floundering his first two years in the league, Tate flourished in his first year as a starter in 2012, finishing second on the team in receptions with 45 for 688 yards and seven touchdowns.

The Seahawks grabbed Georgia’s Kris Durham in the fourth round of the 2011 draft, looking for a big receiver to stretch the field on the perimeter. Durham was dynamic and athletic, but had trouble staying healthy and catching the ball. He was released during final roster cuts before the 2012 season.

While this year’s draft class doesn’t have a Julio Jones or A.J. Green at the top of the draft, there are several, talented productive players to be had in the middle rounds. Two players who could make some sense for Seattle are Tennessee’s Justin Hunter and Louisiana Tech’s Quinton Patton.

At 6-foot-4 and 196 pounds, Hunter ran the 40-yard dash in 4.44 seconds, posted a 40-inch vertical jump and an 11-6 broad jump at the NFL scouting combine.

A former track athlete, Hunter won the high jump at the 2010 USA Junior Championships.

He led Tennessee in receptions as a senior with 73 for 1,083 yards and nine touchdowns. However, Hunter had trouble with drops last season

At 6-feet and 202 pounds, Patton is one of the most elusive runners after the catch in the draft, and could serve as nice backup for Percy Harvin.

Patton ran the 40 in 4.53 seconds at the scouting combine and posted a 33-inch vertical jump. He earned second-team All-American honors thanks to his 104 receptions for 1,392 yards and 13 TDs.

Rob Rang, senior draft analyst with, reviews receivers Seattle might select in each round of this year’s draft.

Round Pick Name
2 (56) Quinton Patton, 6-0, 204, Louisiana Tech
Rob’s rationale: Savvy route-runner with soft hands, competitive nature in running game. Stood out vs. top competition over his career, including at Senior Bowl.

3 (87) Ryan Swope, 6-0, 205, Texas A&M
Rob’s rationale: Not as fast as his 4.3 in the 40-yard dash indicated at combine but is very quick and possesses excellent hands. Think bigger, faster Wes Welker.

4 (123) Chris Harper, 6-1, 229, Kansas State
Rob’s rationale: Big-bodied receiver who hauls in passes even with defenders draped over him. Faster on the field than in workouts. Originally signed with Oregon as a QB.

5 (138, 158) Josh Boyce, 5-11, 206, TCU
Rob’s rationale: Saw production slip in 2012 due to QB being suspended and if scouts do homework they’ll see he’s athletic, tough and very productive. Foot injury a concern.

6 (194) Ace Sanders, 5-7, 173, South Carolina
Rob’s rationale: Much faster than he timed at combine (4.53). Great elusiveness and is a vertical threat despite lack of size. Viewed by some as the best punt returner in the draft.

7 (220, 231, 241 and 242) Brice Butler, 6-3, 214, San Diego State
Rob’s rationale: Was not invited to the combine but turned heads at his Pro Day with his combination of size, speed and overall athleticism. Versatile.

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  1. I don’t think the Hawks really need to draft a WR. The first four WR’s on the team are one of the best in the NFL as a one to four group. The other few WR roster spots have capable young talent.

    The only argument I could make for taking a WR is that the Hawks are going to let Tate and Baldwin sign else where after this season.(I believe both are eligible for free agency in some form.) And by taking a very talented younger WR he can be groomed to be a contributor next season. Because the rookie year is very tough transition at the WR position.

  2. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I could see them drafting one perhaps at 4 or later but not in rounds 2 & 3.

  3. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i see them taking a receiver if the plan to let rice go next year to make cap room. this makes sense if you can get a young dynamic receiver
    that can take his place next year and baldwin and tate continue to progress. bottom line too much money in receiving and i would rather keep miller than rice. i am also betting you can sign tate/ baldin and kam for the same money.

  4. Carlsonkid says:

    Possibly might look at a backup slot receiver to push Baldwin in TC in one of the later rounds , but basically 1-4 is already spoken for . I don’t see them using their higher round picks on a WR . Backup TE is more of a priority .

  5. I think they will take a receiver just in case someone gets hurt. Having 4 solid receivers is great but Pete and John are always planning ahead. If someone goes down and they only have 4 receivers who are quality to start with then they have to use backups that won’t be up to par. Also Pete loves competition and if they draft a receiver early he will push the guys ahead of him to do better and he himself will be better and they can use him for trade bate or something else. Look at how well Lane did for Browner last year and we drafted him knowing we had a solid secondary.

  6. HawkfaninMT says:

    In putting my mock together I acullay think they will take 2 wrs… Ihave them taking one in the 3rd and one in the 7th.

    Rice is going to be an expensive man starting next year, and I would be willing to bet he is asked to take a pay cut or he is put on the trade block. I actually would not be hugely surprised to see him traded during the draft. This is not a knock on him by any means, but it speaks more to his contract. If a team in the 2nd wants a WR, I would not it put it past them to ask Seattle for Rice because he is better than anything available. He is still young, and affordable for this year.

    If the Hawks were to get an extra 2nd this year, and recoup their 3rd for next for him, I would consider it a win. Especially if Arthur Brown were to tumble a bit into the 2nd. That is the guy I would love to see in Hawks Blue next year.

  7. SaigonSun says:

    I really like Swope, but he won’t be there for our third round pick. If we want him, we must move up to get him. I wish we go and get him. , Ace Sanders can be there for us (if Swope is gone) but, he won’t clear the waivers . All of the Southeastern teams (Carolina, Titans, Jax, etc) are very familiar with this player. We couldn’t pick him and stash him for later.
    I was against giving Flynn away for peanuts like we did…. packaging him with a receiver and getting a much higher pick could have been a better way to go. It’s done, I should let it go, I guess.

  8. chuck_easton says:


    I would be shocked to see Rice traded this year. You are aware that one of the reasons Harvin chose Seattle was to be reunited with Rice?

    Tate would be traded before Rice.

  9. BobbyK, I would like to nominate Andre Hines for worst draft pick status. I’ll never forget watching him assigned to trying to run the stairs next to the field at Cheney while the rest of team practiced.

  10. I’ve been clamoring for Chris Harper for a while and will continue to up until Saturday when yes, I’d like to see him taken with our 4th round pick. Just the kind of WR we don’t have on the roster right now and could use for those tough 3rd down conversions. Think poor man’s Anquan Boldin that also used to play the QB position (like AB).


  11. I like Robert Woods from USC. Perfect size/speed for a FL at 6′ 200 lbs, ran a 4.51 40 too. He will likely go in round 2, but if he’s there in round three Seattle should consider this dude. He was injured last year, missing his top-end speed, yet remained productive. His 2011 season was ridiculous, posting 10 and 14 catch games, the latter for 255 yards and 2 TD’s. He totalled 111 catches for 1290 some yards and 15 TD’s that year.

    WalterFootball says he’s very polished at route running, catches with his hands with good technique, and offers excellent after-catch ability. They say he needs to bulk up a bit and become more physical, but thats technique and effort and can be taught.

    He’s a JS/PC Special, injured last year and so his draft stock is depressed. Take a chance guys!

  12. SaigonSun–they got what they could for Flynn. They didnt showcase him in preseason enough last year to build a market for him.

  13. They showcased his bad elbow.

  14. SaigonSun says:

    I know, STTBM. I’m just little worn out from our practice of giving players away for very little in return. Why can’t we be like NE and always get bigger returns for the initial investment?

  15. SandpointHawk says:

    BobbyK…personal favorite is Chris McIntosh, although he did start ten games for the Hawks. I had such high hopes for him….

  16. NE has been in playoffs every year but one since Jesus was in short pants, that’s why they are so successful at trading players for high picks. We may get there someday.

  17. I did submit it (not out yet) and mentioned McIntosh. Agreed.

    I think we will draft a WR at some point and that he will be over 6 feet tall. We know Mr. Happy loves bigger-taller WRs and he’s already got sub 6-footers in Baldwin and now Harvin.

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Rice is a wild card imo. He could be great, or he could get injured again.
    My hope is that they limit him to avoid injury.

    With Wilson in full charge now, I think that the rock will be shared evenly, therefore I don’t see any of our WRs putting up ProBowl numbers, and that’s a good thing imo.

  19. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK- How much can I make with Rants sports on song parodies? I can spit them out fast. Lol.

  20. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Top ten players in Seahawk history-Imo-

    1- Kenney Easley
    2- Walter jones
    3- Cortez Kennedy
    4- Steve Largent
    5- Steve Huchinson
    6- Russell wilson
    7- Earl Thomas
    8- Marshawn Lynch
    9- Jacob Green
    10- Richard Sherman

  21. I wish Jacob Green could play on this team. I always thought he would have put up monster numbers in a 4-3 compared to playing in the 3-4 that he played in.

    And, yes, I love Kenny Easley, too. Although I think that Walt, Tez, and Largent were the best players in team history. All four of them have something in common – all are in, will be, or should be in Canton one day.

  22. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Notice- four of those players are on our current team. And they are still young.

  23. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I think Jacob Green deserves as much HOF consideration as Easley.
    They both deserve it!

  24. GeorgiaHawk–Not putting Curt Warner in your top 10 is a major mistake, IMO, not to mention John L Williams! And personally, I wouldnt put Earl Thomas, Lynch or Wilson in there yet. In a couple more years, perhaps, but not yet. Thomas for one gets run over far too often in run support, and drops too many interceptions to rank up there. Hutch was only that good for two years with us–not long enough to qualify, IMO.

    My top 15, in rough order:

    Steve Largeant
    Walter Jones
    Cortez Kennedy
    Curt Warner
    John L. Williams
    Dave Krieg
    Jacob Green
    Dave Brown
    Eugene Robinson
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Sean Alexander
    Jeff Bryant
    Brian Blades

    Honorable mention: Blair Bush, Joe Nash, Robbie Tobeck, Rick Tuten, Norm Johnson, Paul Skansi, Marcus Trufant, Shawn Springs, Jay Bellamy.

  25. Ok, top 13. Whatever!

  26. Ahhh, I forgot Bobby Engram! Put him right after Jacob Green! And to make that list 15, Brian Millard and Chris Gray to the Honorable Mention, bump Norm Johnson up. He was the man for a long time, and kept playing at a high level for years after he left us.

  27. Bobbyk–McIntosh was not a bust. He was doing fine, gonna be a beast, but his neck injury ended his career before it really began. Injuries like that are not fair to label with the bust category. If he died in a plane crash, would that make him a bust?

    I wouldnt put Bosworth in that category either, as he was a pretty damn good football player–check the stats. He just was too small, used roids, and got injured repeatedly. He never lived up to his hype or promise, and his roid use likely contributed to his injuries, but that is debatable. So he’s not on my all-time Hawks bust list. You can argue that he was a bust, but he isnt on my list.

    Kelly Jennings and Lawrence Jackson were major busts.

  28. GeorgiaHawk says:

    STTBM – Is Kenny Easley on your list?

  29. raymaines says:

    I see that Richard Sherman is on the list. That would be Richard Sherman, fifth round pick with two more years on his rookie contract Richard Sherman.

    Hey, speaking of all star CB’s, I see that Darrelle Revis is a Tampa Bay Buc these days. He just signed a six year 96 million dollar deal, and TB gave up their first round selection and and conditional pick for the privilege of signing him. I love JS, PC & Richard Sherman.

  30. STTBM – I think McIntosh would have been fine too, but I am talking about the production they received from that high of a pick. Holmgren had no way of knowing he’d get a neck injury in training camp.

  31. STTBM…I like your list. I bet a lot of readers are wondering who some of those guys are, but they were bright spots during some terrible seasons.

  32. GeorgiaHawk says:

    There goes my hope that we could get him on the cheap. It would have been great to have the two best Corners in the game.

    Revis & Butthead would have been a great way to say- Revis & Sherman.

    Oh well, Tampa Bay can spend all that money on him, (QB money) and hope he doesn’t re-injure his knee.

  33. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Dam, just call a cab Michaels.
    I did one time and it cost me $165.00. I wish I would have just stayed at a cheap hotel that night. Lol.

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “I thought great teams were only true in fairytales Meant for some other teams, but not for us.”
    “The NFL was out to get us” That’s the way it seemed” Disappointment haunted all our dreams”
    “Then I saw Wilsons face, now I’m a believer Not a trace of doubt in my mind. I’m all in, I’m a believer I couldn’t leave the Seahawks if I tried.”
    “I thought winning was more or less a givin’ thing ,Seems the more they gave the less they got.” What’s the use in trying? All you get is pain When we needed sunshine we got rain”.
    “Then I saw Wilsons face, now I’m a believer ,Not a trace of doubt in my mind , I’m all in, i’m a believer I couldn’t leave the Seahawks if I tried.”

  35. Doesn’t have to do with the Seahawks – but would you take Manning or Luck?

    There’s some guys who had better careers for the Seahawks. Take Fredd Young as an example – he played 4 years for the Seahawks and made 4 Pro Bowls – one on ST and three at linebacker. Some of our young guys haven’t matched that production yet so they can’t technically be better Seahawks — YET.

  36. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I would rather have Manning. That is Eli Manning over both of them. And he has the SuperBowl rings to make his case.

  37. I thought Tez and Tubbs were the most disruptive D linemen we ever had.

    BTW – It’s reported that Revis new contract is a bargain. I think it’s too much. Time will tell I guess.

  38. Georgia–Good call, I forgot Easley while i was remembering names! Of course he’s top 3.

    PHX–That would be sad if many folks on the blog didnt know those names, but then again if they are younger than 30 I suppose that makes sense. I was lucky enough to get in on football Warners rookie year. I dont really remember Sherman Smith or those REAL early Hawks, but I saw Zorn just as he was fading.

    Chris Warren is another guy who is Honorable Mention, and one could make a case for him being top-10 too. He was a great player on bad teams, our only offensive bright spot our 2-14 year, the year we had the NFL’s worst offensive production of ALL TIME!

  39. The deal with Revis’ contract is that its a series of one-year deals at the teams option. So if Revis isnt the same, or gets re-injured, they can dump him with no penalty.

    I wonder if he can come back the same? And even if he can, how long he can stay on top?

  40. So that Nov 3 game at the clink just got more interesting – Revis and Sherman on opposite sides of the field – probably jawing at each other from the sidelines for the whole game.

    The week lead up will be quite interesting

  41. montanamike2 says:

    Hi guys, i just got back from my trip overseas but still have serious jetlag. Glad to see things back to normal, also excited about the draft.

  42. Welcome back.

  43. montanamike2 says:

    Thanks Bobby.

  44. montanamike2 says:

    I have to sleep now so i’ll talk to you guys later, it’s good to be home, (understatement).

  45. Dukeshire says:

    Bosworth was too small? 6’2″ 245/250 is not too small for a LB, by any standard.

  46. SkeleTony says:

    Not going to make a list but if I did I would not put Hasselbeck or Largent on it. Both were pretty damned overrated IMO. I think Zorn and Krieg had more to do with Largent’s success than Largent did. He was not bad by any means but not top ten. Hasselbeck is in a persistent battle with Michael Vick for ‘Most overrated Qb of all time’ honors. He was terrible most of the time.

    I would definitely put Marshawn on the list and probably ahead of Curt Warner. I know that goes against what people are supposed to say but that’s how I see it.

  47. fijihawksfan says:

    Jay Bellamy? You’re kidding, right? Was he even a starter for us? I know he was for NO. . . .

    Ken Easley was the best damn player I ever saw. His career was too short to put him at the top of the list, however.

    Three players stand atop Seahawks history, and it is very close. Walt and Tez are among the finest to ever play their positions in the NFL, but Steve Largest was an artist.

    1-Steve Largent HOF
    2-Walter Jones HOF
    3-Cortez Kennedy HOF
    4-Kenny Easley INJ
    5-Curt Warner INJ
    6-Shaun Alexander MVP
    7-Jacob Green
    8-Steve Hutchison
    9-Matt Hasselbeck
    10-David Kreig

  48. Palerydr says:

    Skeletony did somebody drop a rock on your head and replace your brain with it? When Largent retired he was the ALL TIME leader in catches, yards and TD’s How is that overated? Hasselbeck IMO wasn’t that great but is arguably the best QB in Hawks history although “Mudbone” could really get on a roll and sling the rock he is also 6th all time with 28 consecutive games throwing a TD pass and 15th ALL TIME on the career passing yards list hardly overated.

  49. bbnate420 says:

    RW is on your list after one season, Georgia? I knew you had a man crush but Jesus. ;-)

    I think the Hawks take a flier on Marques Wilson at the end of the 6th or 7th. He’s just too big and fast to not take a chance on at that point.

  50. bbnate420 says:

    Oh, and I’d way rather have Manning. He had better numbers in a less passer-friendly era. He also turned out to be a first ballot HOF. It remains to be seen with Luck.

  51. How do you decide who great Seahawk players were? HoF? Pro-Bowls and All-Pros? Memory of games watched? There’s different levels of greatness, and there’s lots and lotsa SEA players who’ve been pretty dang good.

    There’s also some great players who’re HoFers who only played for SEA a few years:
    Warren Moon
    Jerry Rice
    John Randle
    Franco Harris

    Warren Moon played college in WA, so he might be thought of as more of a SEA player, but really he only played for SEA a coupla years.

    There’s maybe future HoFers who’ve only played a few seasons for SEA so far:
    Russell Wilson
    Earl Thomas
    Richard Sherman

    There’s a few SEA players who played their whole career with SEA and who are, or at least deserve HoF induction:
    Steve Largent
    Cortez Kennedy
    Walter Jones

    …and some SEA players whose numbers could be considered for HoF, or at least ring of honor:
    John L Williams
    Shaun Alexander
    Jacob Green
    Matt Hasselbeck
    Jim Zorn
    Dave Kreig
    Curt Warner
    Fred Young
    Ricky Watters
    Joey Galloway
    Kenny Easley

    Then there are multi-year SEA players who’ve had multi-year careers with SEA where several of those years were excellent and the rest were well above average:
    Sherman Smith
    Chris Warren
    Chad Brown
    Steve Hutchenson
    Joe Nash
    Lofa Tatupu (except his last season performance here was marred by injury)

    Then there’re several players who’ve not played many seasons with SEA so far and who’ve had one very good season with SEA, but may have many more:
    Russell Okung
    Max Unger
    Chris Clemons
    Kam Chancellor
    KJ Wright
    Sidney Rice
    Marshawn Lynch
    Bobby Wagner
    Brandon Browner

    Then there’s those guys who’ve strung together careers with SEA of many very good years:
    Dave Brown
    Jeff Bryant
    Michael Sinclair
    Brian Blades
    Shawn Springs
    Brandon Mebane
    Daryl Jackson
    Marcus Trufant

  52. GeorgiaHawk says:

    nate- After the top five I kind of went into a projection mode. Lol.

  53. montanamike2 says:

    Hi Georgia
    I’m excited about the draft but have to admit that i don’t have a clue who’s on our board. At least i won’t be disappointed since i have no
    preconceptions at all.

  54. chuck_easton says:


    I’d say you are definitely projecting, prognosticating, predicting and praying with that idea of putting Wilson in the top ten Seahawks after only one season.

    We know you absolutely ador, love, worship, and possibly stalk Wilson. That’s OK. You probably had to whack several other Seahawk fans to be the only one peering in his window at night.

    But be fair and honest, both to yourself as a fan and to Wilson as a young and up and coming QB. He’s not even the best QB in Seattle history YET. If he keeps improving on what was a spectacular rookie season and can show consistancy for 10 or so years, he very well could be Seattle’s all time #1 QB. But he’s not there after one season, no matter how good it was. Remember Vince Young had a spectacular rookie season with the OROY award. Look at him now.

    Right now, I’d put Kreig, Hasselbeck, and Zorn all ahead of Wilson. Each of those guys were starters for Seattle over an entire decade.

    For me for a QB to be considered one of the best in a team’s history they have to have done it right up to the 10 year mark.

  55. T. Sinkfield Wr 6’1″ 192#
    UnOff/40 4.19
    Off/40’s 4.3’s
    11’5″ broad and 40.5″ vert.


  56. Not with a draft pick.

  57. So you believe ANY of the 7th rounders we have will make the PS? hmmm.

  58. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Chuck- Would if it’s 8.7 years?

  59. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Welcome back montanamike2.

  60. chuck_easton says:

    Yeah Georgia. 10 years is a benchmark. But anything in the 8 to 12 year range for a starting QB to be with one team would be considered a successful career.

    I think Wilson will get there if he says healthy. It won’t be from lack of effort that would keep him from being here as long as Zorn, Kreig, and Hasselbeck were. He will be only the fourth true franchise type QB Seattle has had.

  61. I can see the hawks drafting anyone at any position. They have set themselves up to be covered at all positions, maybe not strong, but they don’t have any major holes.

    That being said – I will be surprised if we don’t draft at least on LB, DL, OL guy somewhere during the draft

  62. doubledink says:

    not to nitpick but Zorn was only 76-82, 6 years. In those days it just felt like a decade. :)

  63. Skeletony–You must be too young to have seen Largent or Warner play in their prime, or you wouldnt say ridiculous things like that. Ask the HOF Raiders DB’s about Largent–they will tell you he was the best of all time, period. They had a harder time neutralizing him than Jerry Rice. While its generally accepted that Rice eclipsed Largent, Steve could do things no other WR could do–and he did it at 185 lbs and 5′-11″ and kinda slow!

    Fiji–Yeah, bro, he was a starter for several years. He was a much better player for us than for NO, in fact. He worked his way up from the bottom and was a really good player. Holmgren even admitted he screwed up by cutting him, thats how good Bellamy was.

    klm–Galloway sucked. He wouldnt go over the middle and was nearly useless. Warren was a MUCH better player, and far more deserving of being on the list of best Seahawks. I dont list guys like Randle who had only one good year as a Hawk, or guys like Rice who didnt do jack as Hawks. Franco Harris was perhaps the worst player to ever don a Hawk helmet; he even admitted after the fact that he really didnt try, they just paid him so much he showed up…

    Michael Sinclair and Michael McCrary were great players, but they left after 4 years and did even better elsewhere, so I dont count them. Lofa only had 3 years, so he didnt make the cut for me.

    Darrel Jackson probably should be on the list, Honorable Mention for sure. That guy could catch pass after pass when we had to have it; I loved the 2005 Titans game where him and Hass just took over down by 14 in the fourth and won on the road…and he was MONEY in the first quarter of the SB, till he re-injured his F%&&% knee!

    Im fine with putting Warner and Easley there with only 6 years, as those years were amazing. But Im not anointing anyone after 1-3 years!

  64. bbnate420 says:

    Yes, Largent was a great WR, but let’s not go crazy by suggesting he was better or even in the same class as Jerry Rice. That’s just homer talk IMO. Jerry is the best WR of all time, very possibly best player period, and it’s not even really that close. Name me another position where then number’s of the #1 are a mile ahead of the #2 like they are with Rice?

  65. Zorn: 9 years with SEA, then 1 yr with GB and 1 with TB. He also coached QBs, so it seems like he was here quite a while.

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