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Morning links: Sherman clarifies comments about Adderall

Post by Eric Williams on April 11, 2013 at 7:44 am with 72 Comments »
April 11, 2013 7:44 am
Seattle Seahawks Richard Sherman (25) during an NFC Divisional playoff football game against the Atlanta Falcons at the Georgia Dome on Sunday, Jan. 13, 2013 in Atlanta. The Falcons won 30-28.  (AP Photo/Tom DiPace)
Seattle Seahawks Richard Sherman (25) during an NFC Divisional playoff football game against the Atlanta Falcons at the Georgia Dome on Sunday, Jan. 13, 2013 in Atlanta. The Falcons won 30-28.
(AP Photo/Tom DiPace)

Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman appeared on NFL-AM this morning, refuting a report from the Vancouver Sun on Wednesday where he was quoted as saying half the league takes Adderall.

Sherman: “First off, I didn’t say that. It’s just another case of these writers trying to gain a little notoriety in an interview. What I said was there’s a bunch of guys on prescription for Adderall. I’ve never seen people get prescribed a performance-enhancing drug, you know what I mean?….They go so crazy when guys test positive for it, but a bunch of guys have prescriptions for it, so it’s kind of misleading.”

Sherman went on to say that although he was suspended last season for allegedly taking Adderall – a result that was overturned after he won his appeal with the league because of the mishandling of his sample – he says he never took the drug, and doesn’t know how it would affect a player’s performance.

“I’m not sure. I’ve never taken it,” Sherman said. “So I’m not sure. From what I’ve learned from this whole case and everything, it somehow slows it down for people that are sped up, like ADHD. Apparently the guys are too sped up and there are breaks in their attention that the Adderall kind of bridges the breaks…and allows them to stay focused on one thing at a time.”

The NFL also issued a statement to Sherman’s comments in the Vancouver Sun.

“The comments are ill-informed and inaccurate. Adderall is easily detected under current testing and will result in a suspension absent an approved therapeutic use exemption. If his statement were true, we would be seeing many more positive tests and suspensions. More importantly, his comments are irresponsible, as they ignore the serious medical risks and documented public health crisis associated with the improper use of Adderall and similar drugs.”

Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes that Richard Sherman is the gift that keeps on giving, particularly on a slow news day for a columnist.

KJR announced on Wednesday that former Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren will serve as a regular contributor for the radio station as an NFL analyst. You can listen to Dave “Softy” Mahler’s conversation with Holmgren in this audio link.

Former Seattle quarterback Seneca Wallace agreed to terms with Oakland after a workout with the Raiders.

Wallace talked about his workout for Seattle in this KJR interview audio link.

Joe Fortenbaugh of the National Football Post takes a look at the dumpster fire that was the 2009 draft, which included Seattle selecting Aaron Curry at No. 4.

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  1. Hammajamma says:

    “…It’s just another case of these writers trying to gain a little notoriety in an interview.”

    Yikes.

  2. IdahoHawk says:

    Sherm should just lay low. He is being targeted by the media. He’s brought it apon himself.

  3. abqhwkfn says:

    This guy is a knucklehead.. I say trade him now while he is considered a top corner. Ive had enough of his dumb comments. Let him take his show to Dallas or NY… Its obvious he loves the publicity.

  4. I love sherman. I wear my #25 jersey proudly. I don’t care what he says or how he says it, until his play begins to be affected by it. With that being said, he should understand by now that the media only wants to stir the pot and make him look bad. Sherm needs to learn to take the high road and just say “no comment” when they ask about certain stuff. He can not win in a battle with the media. Maybe he doesn’t care, but it is obvious the seahawks care and they do not want to look bad as an organization. It is just too bad that he does all this great community service with the kids, and the only thing to get noticed is an end of the day comment when asked about adderall. Turn the other cheek sherm, you can’t win against the media.

  5. abqhwkfn says:

    You would think, after this defense continually got torched in crunch time, he would be spending a little more time working on his game. As opposed to insulting the league that employs him.

  6. IMO, some of you are falling victim to the media trap. They are making you believe that he said these things in ill will towards the league. The media took him out of context and made him sound bad. That is what they want. Trade him? I am sure glad you are not in charge of this team. We have the best corner in the league, on the best defense in the league..ya lets get rid of him. No biggie. That would be a move the mariners would make. get rid of the superstar before or at his prime. come on!

  7. Sherm needs to channel his BeastMode and avoid reporters.

  8. chuck_easton says:

    How about instead of getting rid of him the team just hires a personal spokesperson to follow Sherman around and clarify everything he says?

    Or better yet, maybe Sherman just needs to go stealth mode and not talk to any media other than to smile and say ‘ just happy to be here…thank you for covering this wonderful charity/event/fundraiser/whatever.

    Any opinion Sherman should have should go no farther afield than whether chocolate or vanilla icecream makes a better Rootbeer float.

  9. lol chuck. Agreed!

  10. I think Sherman subscribes to the Any Publicity is Good Publicity Club. It’s just part of his game, part of his charm. Big deal!

  11. ChrisHolmes says:

    Wanting to trade Sherman because of his comments is just outright stupid.

    Let him talk. What does anyone really care? It’s not like he’s throwing his teammates under the bus, or attacking his QB for being ‘gay’, or making disparaging comments toward a segment of the population.

    Until the guy becomes a selfish, narcissistic cancer, a la T.O., just let him talk and don’t worry about it.

  12. tealskin says:

    Until RS “gets it” we’ll just have to get used to incidents. Maybe he never will and we’ll just have to keep apologizing for him and saying superior performance makes up for boorish behavior. I like the guy, and his play, but he rides the line alot on funny vs. jerk.

  13. ChrisHolmes says:

    “Or better yet, maybe Sherman just needs to go stealth mode and not talk to any media”

    That’s asking a fish to walk.

    It’s not Sherman’s nature.

    A guy shouldn’t have to shut up. It’s the media’s responsibility, actually, to accurately quote people and to PUT THEIR COMMENTS IN CONTEXT. And to ask FOLLOWUP QUESTIONS if you’re not sure what a guy really means. You don’t misquote him and then come back THE NEXT DAY to get “clarification”. You ask a FOLLOWUP QUESTION on the spot.

    This is probably the biggest cardinal sin I’ve seen lately with certain media. Thanks to the internet, twitter, etc., there’s now this absurd race to not just report the news, but to “create” it. It’s juvenile, unprofessional, and dumb. And unfortunately, the person in the limelight is Sherman, and the anonymous reporter gets no backlash whatsoever.

    It disgusts me… what has happened to our media?

  14. raymaines says:

    Sherm needs to tee it high and let it fly!

    I love that kid and if I had a #25 jersey I’d wear it every time I went outdoors. It’s OK to be a pain as long as your right and, so far at least, he’s always been right.

    A favorite bumper sticker that sort of pertains to RS says “Well mannered women seldom make history”. RS and Brandon Browner are changing the way cornerbacks play and who knows, before the end of his career he might change the entire NFL. I’ll bet urine samples are already better taken care of because of his case. I can’t imagine how puckered up Goodell is going to be before RS retires.

  15. CDHawkFan says:

    I think pissing Sherman off has/will make him better, running his mouth is what makes him tick. I say keep it going Sherm, it helps you be you, which is a 5th round All Pro Stanford Grad.

  16. rramstad says:

    I love Sherman, and enjoy his talk, but it would be HYSTERICAL if he had someone who came with him everywhere, and interpreted, in real time, what he actually said.

    “I’m better at life than you.”

    “Considering our relative merits, as people in our given profession, I have had more success, especially considering the short time I’ve been active in my athletic career, compared to the success you’ve had as a broadcaster to date.”

  17. HawkFromDay1 says:

    First off Richard Sherman IS better than Skip Bayless “AT LIFE” – most people are…

    Second, I thought his clarification made a ton of sense. If lots of guys are taking prescription Adderall (which gets you an exemption), and its not a performance-enhancing drug, then why is it on the list?

    Lots of prescription drugs are abused, and are not performance enhacers – is the NFL policing prescription drug abues generally? Or are they cracking down on performance enhancers? Or both?

    I think a good argument can be made that the NFL’s job has nothing to do with policing prescription drug abuse (that aren’t PEDs) – that’s for doctors, the FDA and the POLICE. Of course all of this is collectively bargained with the NFLPA – so all bets are off…

  18. rramstad,

    LMAO..love it!

  19. madpunter88 says:

    The Vancouver Sun reporter released the full transcript of the interview and after reading that I am more of a supporter of Sherman’s than ever before. He is right that the Sun, the media in general (e.g., PFT) and the NFL are taking it entirely out of context. The selective quotes in the original article intentionally make him sound argumentative, defensive, and like he is trying to bring the league down. But when you read the full transcript he is attempting to make a very rational argument — his mistake was using hyperbolic language about the number of players on prescription Adderall.

    His argument makes sense…if it is a PED then how can the league allow certain players with prescriptions to use it regardless of their medical need (after all other PEDs can be obtained legally by prescription but are still not allowed in the NFL)? If it is not a PED then why does the league ban it? You can’t on one hand let certain players use it if there are known benefits while banning everyone else.

    He should stop doing interviews. But his point that his words are twisted is true. Sadly, this will just add to the negative discourse when he has good points.

  20. HawkFromDay1 says:

    In total agreement with Punter – think we’re on the same page.

    The NFL is not a law enforcement agency, no matter what Goodell thinks.

  21. chuck_easton says:

    I fully accept he was taken out of context. The problem is Shem needs to understand that he is the WWF version of the bad guy in every wrestling match (media scrum).

    Sherman can spend an hour talking about children, homeless issues, world peace, the fact that society should feed everybody as there is more than enough food in the world. At the end of the interview a dog runs up and pees on his leg causing Sherman to make a disparaging remarks about the dog and its owner.

    Next day the paper is going have a headline SHERMAN HATES DOGS AND INSULTS THEIR OWNERS. Of course there will be nothing about all his good thoughts and intentions.

    He is a marked man. He is the bad guy. He wears the black hat. He doesn’t get the girl at the end of the picture. He is the Lynsey Lohan of the NFL right now.

  22. As long as he keeps playing at an All Pro level – I don’t really care. He’s not going all Leonard Little on people, nor is he being a bad teammate. If he’s not getting into real trouble, I’m good with it.

  23. Chuck…damn, that’s funny and well put. Ms. Lohan is one hell of a corner, though!

  24. guiltybystander says:

    I found the transcript, too. Here’s the portion of the interview in question…

    Mike Beamish, Vancouver Sun: “Let me ask you about the suspension you were handed, and you appealed it. Have you left that behind? Do people ask you about that? Do you have to explain it a lot?”

    Sherman: “Not really. It was what it was. I think the league made a mistake. Obviously, they cleaned up their mistake by repealing . . . repealing? . . . taking it away. That’s what it was to me. Obviously, I didn’t do anything. But you have to go through the process to prove you didn’t do anything. Once the process played itself out, it ended up being true.”

    Beamish: “There are players who actually have to take Adderall, because people have ADD and ADHD.”

    Sherman: “There’s about half the league that takes it, and the league has to allow it.”

    So what exactly was taken out of context? Mike Beamish stands by his story and his paper stands by him. I’ll take their word over a football player who can’t resist drawing attention to himself.

    This is simply Richard Sherman being Richard Sherman and in the end, he’s still only a football player and life goes on no matter what he says.

  25. “This guy is a knucklehead.. I say trade him now while he is considered a top corner. Ive had enough of his dumb comments. Let him take his show to Dallas or NY… Its obvious he loves the publicity.”

    Oh please, who cares? All he’s doing is tweaking other teams and the NFL rules committee a bit. It’s not like he’s complaining about his teammates or his contract (yet) — those anti-team-chemistry things might bug me, but stuff like this doesn’t. Nor is he getting into any kind of trouble with the law off the field. So, he’s a bit of a publicity hound. So was Deion Sanders, and I’d line him up on the Hawks too. Now, if he stops being a great player, I’ll admit that that changes the equation somewhat. But he’s one of the best in the league right now, and I’m glad he’s with us.

  26. I understand what he was tring to (since its a PED how can the league allow any player to use it), but what is amazing to me is how poorly spoken he is. He doesn’t sound like a Stanford graduate, he sounds like a knucklehead teenager.

    We need to get the media focus off of Sherman and onto RW.

  27. i don’t care what he says, he is just having some fun with his life…

  28. Singularitarian says:

    I think alot of you miss the point. I’ve heard alot of you say things like “too bad Sherman does good stuff for the community but only gets recognized for being a loud mouth. Point is, he DOES stuff for the community. Doing charity work is not about getting recognition, it’s about helping people that need help. If your doing charitable work simply to look good you are doing it for the wrong reason IMO. Help people out, and run your mouth if you want Sherman. Graduate Stanford, Own your poisition at the highest level of sports, and help the community out, you have earned your right to talk a little, especially when your making valid points about the hypocricy of the league and how it effects you

  29. Singularitarian says:

    dammit my phone always changes “you’re” to “your”. I need to start proof reading more. Sorry

  30. ChrisHolmes says:

    “So what exactly was taken out of context?”

    What was taken out of context? Are you f-ing kidding me?

    Everyone who read Sherman’s quote thought that Sherman meant “half the league is taking it illegally”. And that is also the way the NFL read it, because they issued a statement saying that Adderall was easily detected under the current drug testing scenario and that Sherman’s comments were “irresponsible”.

    But when you read it IN CONTEXT it’s easy to see that Sherman did not mean “half the league is taking it illegally” – he means half the league has a prescription for a legal use of the drug.

    My God people. It’s night and day the difference in that statement once you put it in context.

    And this is what I’m pissed off about when it comes to the media. This kind of “journalism” is juvenile and irresponsible. You can’t take stuff out of context just to create a sensational headline to gather attention. That’s bad journalism. That’s journalism at its worst.

    The Sun should be ashamed of operating that way. They need to post a retraction.

  31. Amen Chris. Agree 100%. In context and out of context is night and day and journalism has gotten so damn lazy its pathetic.

  32. Singularitarian says:

    Blocis-
    A. Russle Wilson is about the most boring person in an interveiw ever. It’s like listening to a politician after taking Ambien (probably considered a PED by the NFL, without a presciption, then it’s ok). He’s one of my favorite players and gets alot of attention from the media because of his amazing play, and his height. but he has a lot of loosening up to do in front of the camera to have the media want to hear much in an interveiw besides just “I gotta keep getting better and do whatever to help my team win”. That type of stuff is boring.

    B. I think Sherman comes off as pretty well spoken. He gets interrupted alot and has to start over with an idea, like on Skip Bayless, but given where he came from i think he does a prett decent job.

  33. HawkFromDay1 says:

    I don’t think the journalist did anything wrong here – he just did things poorly.

    Instead of exploring the issue of players using PEDs with a prescription (last I checked the NFL does not have a medical license so it shouldn’t be regulating players doctor-prescribed medicines), which is a pretty interesting story – he focussed on a throw-away bit of hyperbole from Richard Sherman.

    Prescription PED – that story (done well) could win a Peabody and get picked up by 60 minutes.

    Richard Sherman says MORE dumb stuff – that a goofy fluff piece that’ll get picked up by TMZ

    It’s not wrong or unethical – it’s just super lame…

  34. Aha! I’ve found something that I have in common with Richard Sherman – talking is one of the few things I can do without thinking!

    Of course, the Vancouver Sun’s reporter sticks to his version: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/11/vancouver-sun-stands-by-richard-sherman-quote/

  35. Carlsonkid says:

    It’s ridiculous this is even news . In my opinion , it isn’t . I guess this how the media machine attempts to sell press in the time between the combine and the draft .

    Ya know , the NFL is turning into a bunch of woosies . Dont lower your head . Lets get rid of kickoffs . How dare you separate Vernon Davis from the ball – personal foul . We can’t work our crap out with the refs , here’s some guys from the lingere league instead . If we find Gatorade in your urine , 4 game suspension . Now they want to give Sherman grief for telling the truth ; half the population IS on Adderall , and heart meds and antidepressants . There’s a pill for just about everything anymore , Big Pharma see’s to it . This isn’t news , it’s everyday life in America . Good grief …

  36. Adderall is a psychostimulant medication that contains amphetamine, used for the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and narcolepsy. It isn’t something a player would take to improve his concentration on the field – more like in the film room going over hours and hours of game film. Many people need it to concentrate in class and have been taking it thru most of their schooling, at least when they’ve been diagnosed with ADHD, etc. I guess the NFL doesn’t want players who can’t watch film and stay attentive in team and position meetings without help(?)

  37. Trade Sherman?!

    Yeah we need players that have a high character quality to them….

    You know who was a high character guy? Aaron Curry was a “high character” guy.

  38. chuck_easton says:

    I was wondering what ever happened to Tim Ruskell. Then he appeared on this block under the nickname abqhwkfn.

    It’s good to see Ruskell has found a hobby as that whole NFL GM thing just wasn’t working out for him.

  39. IF they need it then the would have a prescription for it. RW doesn’t seem to need it to stay focused.

    I believe the reporters version of what was said before I would believe Sherm’s. I don’t believe that he didn’t take it, I believe he got off on a technicality on procedure not on the results.

    He will call more attention to himself and and if he is guilty will probably get popped again unless he has a better masking agent now.

  40. SkeleTony says:

    I agree with everything ChrisHolmes said here.

    GuiltyBystander, do you honestly not understand how that is taking what Sherman said out of context?! Read the interview that was published and all of the commentaries about that interview then read the full transcript. What Sherman actually said in the conversation he actually had is something almost any of us would have said (given the knowledge/perspective Sherman has) and not thought anything of it. It is the difference between:

    Interviewer: “You play golf?”
    Athlete: “Yeah I kill brothers out there with them clubs…”

    and

    Interviewer: “…”
    Athlete: “…I kill brothers with clubs.”

    Now if Sherman ever goes all Terrel Owens and starts saying stupid, bigoted, false and nonsensical crap then I will be hopping off his bandwagon faster than an you can blink but until then…

  41. I’ve been watching some of this week’s practices at a local high school in SoCal. For anybody who lives down here there’s a 12th man rally today at Hermosa Beach Hennessey’s at 230pm. The guy who runs the ‘SoCal Hawks’ club has organized it and has contacted some of the players.. I haven’t seen any definitive info that any players will show up tho.. Worst case, I’ll have a beer with other Hawk fans..

  42. Wow, who cares what Sherman said, get a life. Let’s hang on his every word, pathetic. The dude shows up to work and does his thing. If someone asks him a question and he speaks his mind, so be it. Eveyone trippin’ on what he says is the reason why reporters are tryin’ to get a piece of his action. I find it sad. As long as he’s not beating his girlfriend, assulting people, or getting into DUI wrecks, who cares what he says or trying to decipher if someone took him out of context or not. Everyone who is whinning about this is being ridiculous, the fact that it’s even being talked about this much is a joke. Think about it.

  43. SkeleTony says:

    Xcman: That is exactly what Sherman said! That “half the league” has PRESCRIPTIONS for it. That is the whole point of people here being angry about him being taken out of context. That RW is not a WR who is prescribed Adderall is quite irrelevant. Normally I would also suspect Sherman of being one of those guys who lies about taking a banned substance and gets off on a technicality but in this case I believe Sherman up until there is good reason NOT to believe him. So far everything he has said from the beginning involving his case has been proven true (which is why he did not serve a 4 game suspension last season).
    If you trust reporters more than athletes then you have a lot to learn about reporters in this day and age. The reporters of today are not the reporters of yesteryear. Reagan ending the ‘Fairness doctrine’ changed all of that and the internet exasperated the whole matter.

  44. A lot of players showed up for this week’s workouts. RW, Tate, Turbin, Baldwin, Rice, Charley Martin.. Other guys I assume are Stephan Williams & Charley Martin & maybe Sean McGrath..

  45. Who cares about something someone said? Are we really all that sensitive?

    Do we have any updates on the Winfield situation? Our D is about to be even more ridiculous than last year!

  46. The media LOVES Sherman. His undeniable talent, his low draft status chip, his never ending quotes and miss quotes and out of context quotes keep people coming back to comment time and time again. He’s like one of those bug zapper lights. People just can’t help but to fly right into it. Punk journalists know that they can bait Sherman and he will take it. They will attain wholly or splice together the quotes that get them the headline they are looking for.

    I love Sherman and Wilson for the same reason. Aside from being fellow human beings, they are going to take us to the promised land!!!

  47. I believe Sherman up until there is good reason NOT to believe him.

    how about the arbitration report all our said it was inconsistencies(not following procedure) that got him off – not the fact that he wasn’t positive.

    You are giving the athletes WAY too much credit – are they goofy reporters who would do that on purpose -heck yes, are you going to have players who lie about PED’s YES!!!.

    Beat reporters know soo much about the players that they never publish, if they did they would never get an interview with guys. They have to know what to follow up on and what to let slide, cause there is just nothing there.

  48. Yes, Sherman is opinionated….big “fuc*&^@ deal.

    There’s a little thing called the 1st amendment…and he’s not arrogant at all…like some of the ass clowns we’ve seen over the years on the Cowboys and other teams.

  49. SkeleTony says:

    What “got him off” was the fact that the tester used a cup which had a broken seal and may well have been tainted with someone else’s piss (which would be right in line with Sherman’s ‘half the league is prescribed Adderall’ quote).
    And no, I never said that athletes were more or less trustworthy than reporters. What I did was to point out how absurd YOUR statement was that you would trust reporters in this day and age over athletes. You seem to be stuck in an age-gone-by when reporters actually did journalism and athletes were mostly guilty of something and trying to keep it out of the media. We don’t live in that world anymore.

  50. Ewalters7354 says:

    My God who cares? Sherm is an adult.It seems we all want the PERFECT player and person.Reality check, not gonna happen.If Sherm was this or that is irrelevant. He’s gonna be a hawk for a long time.As long as he makes plays on the field I can care less about the media.

  51. I trust reporters until they PROVE they don’t deserve it, just like I trust players until they prove they don’t deserve it.

    Your comment about not trusting reporters (generic and therefore ALL reporters) is just as absurd as anything I might have said.

  52. Mass media is owned by big corporations with editorial guidelines. Take everything with a grain of salt.

  53. HonHawksLSB says:

    MocaRob. Thanks for the info. I wish I could leave work here in DTLA right now and get there by 2:30pm. Any chance they are there tomorrow?

    No Harvin at the players only workout?

    I’m really dissappointed he is not there.

  54. Beamish: “It’s like you have a prescription, if you’re a diabetic.”

    Sherman: “Exactly.”

    Had this part been left in the story to begin with, there would be no misunderstanding. Without that follow up question, it reads that Sherman is accusing half the league of popping pills.

    With the added quote, he states that a lot of people are on it with a prescription and the league allows it.

    Crappy TMZ type of reporting.

  55. HonHawks – I’m not sure I would recognize Percy if I saw him.. He’s supposed to be here. I’ve been watching from a distance with the 9er scouts..

  56. HonHawksLSB says:

    Mocarob- Are there really 9er scouts there? That is funny.

    I didn’t see Harvin in that pic Rice sent, maybe they were walking together.

    Pretty cool there is such a great turnout, really is a testament to RW’s leadership. When I saw Brady at SC there were only a few guys.

  57. Yes, The scout comment was a joke.. There was a guy there that said he was a coach and he knew Petey but he didn’t say who he coached.. Prob local kids..

  58. bbnate420 says:

    Look, comparing someone with ADD or ADHD taking Adderall to someone taking it that does not is completely ignorant and idiotic. If you don’t know anything about a subject, then there’s no need to comment like you do. People with ADD or ADHD have a portion of their brain that functions too slowly, which causes their thought processes to speed up and become unfocused. A weak stimulant like Adderall speeds that portion of their brain up and actually slows their thinking down. It affects someone without ADD/ADHD completely differently, though I still have to question how much of a PED it really is.

    What’s the difference between taking PEDs and taking huge amounts of anti-inflammatories in order to play? Do you think your doctor would prescribe you large and extended doses of strong anti-inflammatories simply so you could smash your body into other men? It’s all a bit hypocritical. Why does the NFL have a say in what drugs players take that are clearly not PEDs? I know a number of you probably agree with it. I know I know, the kids and all that nonsense.

  59. SandpointHawk says:

    Hey with all the gripping about reporters in this string I thing a call out to Eric and Dave is in order. Having been lucky enough to do the same job 25 years ago, I for one will testify that they do a great job for us at Insiders. As for my friend Ryan he owes me a beer so until he pays up I’ll hold the praise… Good job Eric…Good job Dave…

  60. bbnate420 says:

    BTW, there is of course the potential for players to pretend like they have ADD/ADHD sand get prescribed Ritalin or Adderall. There is no blood test for it like with HIV or something. But again, I doubt that it would have much of an performance enhancing effect if taken before a game. It’s really no different than being amped up full of adrenaline, which they already are. It’s mostly used for studying. They could take large amounts of caffeine pills and get the same effect basically without any fear of suspension. The NFL and NFLPA could agree to a list of doctors that they both have veto power over for players to see if they want a prescription for something that may be seen as a PED.

  61. ChrisHolmes says:

    “Crappy TMZ type of reporting.”

    Precisely.

  62. ChrisHolmes says:

    Re: Adderall,

    Adderall is quite prevalent on college campuses these days. While there might be some dispute about how it really affects people who do *not* have ADD or ADHD, there’s a large enough population of people using it without a prescription who claim that it allows them the same benefits, namely more focus, concentration, etc. College kids are using to study longer, harder, and get better grades.

    We forget the fact, quite often, that these professional athletes spend as much time in a classroom as they do a gym. Knowledge of the playbook, opponent’s tendencies, game situations and the weekly game plan is just as important as route running or blocking drills. If guys are taking Adderall to keep them awake and focused during classroom sessions when normally their focus might wander or drift, and they might fall asleep because of their lack of focus, well, that’s performance enhancement. It’s just a mental kind. It’s an edge granted by pharmacology.

    I have a co-worker who was diagnosed with ADHD. Without his meds he’s a mess. He can’t focus and he can’t do his work. With his meds – he’s like a machine. He’s total focus. So it’s definitely a difference-maker for him.

  63. @xcman I trust reporters until they PROVE they don’t deserve it, just like I trust players until they prove they don’t deserve it.

    Your comment about not trusting reporters (generic and therefore ALL reporters) is just as absurd as anything I might have said.

    BUT you refuse to give the same thought process to a player AFTER the tester admitted in court that he transferred the sample from one cup to another, breaking ALL the rules.

    AFTER the tester admitted he didn’t report the incident which probably would have resulted in another test being done the next day.

    AFTER the fact the tester and company had 6 of their test challenged from the start of the season until the Sherman situation.

    AFTER Sherman has been tested several times since and hasn’t had a problem.

    So explain again how you believe people until proven wrong? Maybe it’s you believe in the people who you want to believe and everyone else is just guilty because once your mind is made up, nothing will even make you think, maybe I was wrong?

    I hope you never get selected to jury duty.

  64. “Adderall is quite prevalent on college campuses these days. While there might be some dispute about how it really affects people who do *not* have ADD or ADHD, there’s a large enough population of people using it without a prescription who claim that it allows them the same benefits, namely more focus, concentration, etc. College kids are using to study longer, harder, and get better grades.”

    And here’s another usage going on apparently — I had lunch a couple weeks ago with a woman who is a 5th year associate at one of the biggest corporate law firms in the country. It’s a total salt mines job they are working very long hours (9 to 9 or longer is the norm), and she said many of the younger associates take Adderall to maintain focus and work longer hours, etc.

    No joke, makes me worry what kind of world my kids are going to have to compete in, when they come of age.

  65. raymaines says:

    Richard Sherman: Stanford grad., all-pro player and all around bug zapper! Ha, I love it.

    Galena says: The media LOVES Sherman. His undeniable talent, his low draft status chip, his never ending quotes and miss quotes and out of context quotes keep people coming back to comment time and time again. He’s like one of those bug zapper lights.

    I swear to God I’m going to buy a RS #25 jersey. That’s a really big deal for me because I only cheer for the laundry and never get involved with the person in the jersey. Except maybe just this once.

  66. bbnate420 says:

    pdway, if you think taking stimulants is something new in this country, then you don’t know your history. Every army in World War II ran on amphetamines. The American army in Vietnam too. Housewives used to gobble down Benzes like they were going out of style in order to lose weight from the 1930′s through the 50′s. Adderall and Ritalin are fairly weak stimulants. Not really any different than loading up on a large amount of caffeine.

    ChrisHolmes, by your logic, caffeine should be banned as a PED. Do you believe that? There’s not a lot of black and white in this issue. I think Adderall would help most people study longer, if taken correctly. Some people it doesn’t really affect at all, at least in small doses. My brother takes a low dose of Adderall and he has let me try one. It didn’t really do anything much. It was just like drinking a few shots of expresso to me. Drugs always affect different people differently. And the fact that people believe it helps them study is not proof that it does. Have you ever heard of the placebo effect? The question is, is there enough proof of Adderall as a PED to get it banned? If you take too much, it would actually be counterproductive for studying. A stimulant will help with energy and focus up to a certain point and then you become more and more wired and disjointed. There’s a reason people don’t snort coke or smoke crystal meth to study for finals.

  67. ChrisHolmes says:

    “ChrisHolmes, by your logic, caffeine should be banned as a PED. Do you believe that?”

    The difference is you don’t need a prescription to take caffeine.

    Listen, even weight lifting is an “edge” if you think about it. You’re trying to make yourself bigger and stronger and faster than the next guy.

    But it’s an accepted practice. There’s no prescription involved.

    I don’t make the rules… Our society does. I think if Adderall were ever removed from prescription-required to an open drug like caffeine, the NFL might be forced to re-think its stance.

    But I don’t see that happening. Adderall isn’t a lightweight upper like caffeine is…

  68. AFTER the tester admitted in court that he transferred the sample from one cup to another, breaking ALL the rules.

    NOPE – not illegal to transfer cup – what he did was forget to note it in the original report – which was the NO-NO

    “According to the written decision, Sherman’s sample cup began leaking, to which the tester grabbed another cup and transferred the sample. Documentation of the leaking cup was not originally on the submitted report following the test and only when asked by a supervisor in October did the tester acknowledge the sample being transferred from the original cup.

    Wallace wrote the omission of the leaking cup from the report was a ‘big deal,’ “

  69. pdway, if you think taking stimulants is something new in this country, then you don’t know your history. Every army in World War II ran on amphetamines. The American army in Vietnam too. Housewives used to gobble down Benzes like they were going out of style in order to lose weight from the 1930′s through the 50′s. Adderall and Ritalin are fairly weak stimulants. Not really any different than loading up on a large amount of caffeine.”

    No, I know that – though I think it’s a little different when you’re talking about fighter pilots vs. lawyers in a law firm (or students in college). I mean, students/lawyers aren’t in a life or death situation, where you do anything to keep an edge. But the key part of your statement above is that Adderall isn’t much different than loading up on caffeine. Is that definitely true? I honestly don’t know. I’d thought it was something different, but never looked deeply into it.

  70. bbnate420 says:

    pdway, I agree that there is a difference between people fighting in a war and lawyers or students. Not with housewives though. And Adderall is a lot weaker than Benzes or the high grade amphetamines that were being taken in World War II or Vietnam. People always have and always will take things that they believe give them an advantage. My point is that we’re not entering a brave new world. I’ve never taken Adderall to study, and I do just fine.

    ChrisHolmes, well if you think something is logical or fair simply because it is a societal rule or norm, then that is a different discussion. And I wasn’t even arguing that players without a prescription should be allowed to take Adderall necessarily, although if it hasn’t been established as a PED then I don’t think the NFL should have any right to monitor what drugs players take. Maybe I didn’t make that clear. But if I understand their system correctly, the NFL forces players who want an Adderall or Ritalin prescription to go to doctors of THEIR choosing. I think it would be fair for the NFL and NFLPA to produce a list of approved doctors for players to go to for these prescriptions that both have veto power over. And the NFL should pay the expenses if there isn’t an approved doctor in the players’ area.

  71. Sherman can keep on doin’ until he can’t back it up anymore.

    He has my respect and I’m thrilled he’s a Seahawk.

    This stuff is just details. I’m waiting for a Super Bowl victory and Richard Sherman is a big reason my home team has a great shot to be there at the end of the season.

    -stan

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