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Hawks 2013 Free Agency Primer

Post by Eric Williams on March 12, 2013 at 5:42 am with 53 Comments »
March 12, 2013 6:07 am
Tennessee Titans' Jared Cook (89) makes an 18-yard touchdown reception against Indianapolis Colts' Antoine Bethea (41) and Sergio Brown (38) during the first half of an NFL football game, Sunday, Dec. 9, 2012, in Indianapolis. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)
Tennessee Titans’ Jared Cook (89) makes an 18-yard touchdown reception against Indianapolis Colts’ Antoine Bethea (41) and Sergio Brown (38) during the first half of an NFL football game, Sunday, Dec. 9, 2012, in Indianapolis. (AP Photo/Michael Conroy)

Before the new league year begins today at 1 p.m. Pacific Time, the Seattle Seahawks already starting things off with a bang by trading for dynamic receiver Percy Harvin with Minnesota.

Harvin gives Seattle’s offense more juice, and with 20 of 22 starters already signed for 2013, the Seahawks do not have a lot of holes to fill.

Still, with nearly $17 million in projected cap room available before the team inks Harvin to a new deal, expected to be $12 million annually, the Seahawks have some wiggle room to make some deals in free agency.

“This is just a funky year I think for free agency,” Seahawks general manager John Schneider said back at the NFL Scouting Combine in February. “I think everybody kind has to hold their water a little bit and just be somewhat careful when you jump into this thing.”

Seattle has seven players set to the open market, including defensive linemen Alan Branch and Jason Jones, kicker Steven Hauschka, linebacker Leroy Hill, cornerback Marcus Trufant, offensive lineman Frank Omiyale and tight end Cameron Morrah.

Projected restricted free agents for Seattle in 2013 include defensive tackle Clinton McDonald, long snapper Clint Gresham and safety Chris Maragos.

With Harvin expected to sign a lucrative, multi-year deal, the Seahawks also could consider restructure players who are due to make significant money in 2013.

Among them, receiver Sidney Rice is due to make $8.5 million in non-guaranteed, base salary in 2013 – and counts over $9 million toward this year’s salary cap.

Tight end Zach Miller is set to make $10 million in total compensation in 2013, giving him an $11 cap number. Miller is scheduled to make $6.8 million in base salary, $4 million of which is fully guaranteed. Miller is due a $3 million roster bonus due on March 21.

Possible salary cap casualties include receiver Ben Obomanu, who’s due to make $2.3 million in non-guaranteed, base salary on the final year of his three-year extension. Returner Leon Washington also is a possibility with the addition of Harvin. Washington is set to make $2.5 million in non-guaranteed, total compensation in 2013. The Seahawks are shopping Washington for a possible trade.

Reserve quarterback Matt Flynn is due $5.25 million in salary, $2 million of which is fully guaranteed. If the Seahawks traded Flynn, they would save $5.25 million in cash and $3.25 million in cap space.

Here are a few names to keep an eye on today, and the coming weeks.

John Abraham, DE, Atlanta Falcons – The 34-year-old Abraham visited Seattle and San Francisco last week in anticipation of the beginning of free agency. Abraham should come at a more inexpensive price than top-shelf alternatives like Paul Kruger or Cliff Avril. He’s a good fit for Seattle’s scheme, having played in a 4-3 for the Falcons. And he provides some insurance in case Chris Clemons isn’t ready to begin the regular season after ACL knee surgery. Abraham turns 35 in May.

Desmond Bryant, DT, Oakland Raiders – The 27-year-old Harvard graduate did not help himself with the DUI charge he received last month, but Bryant showed the ability to rush the passer from inside for Oakland last season, with 36 tackles and four sacks. At 6-6 and 311 pounds, Bryant fits the size and skill set the Seahawks are looking for in an inside pass rusher.

Chris Canty, DE, New York Giants – Released by the New York Giants in a salary cap purge, Canty visited Green Bay last week. Canty also visited Tennessee and Kansas City. At 6-7 and 317 pounds, the 30-year-old Canty could be that inside pass rusher Seattle is looking for. Canty has seven sacks in the past two seasons, but missed seven games in 2012 with a knee issue, spending the first six games on the PUP list for the Giants.

Jared Cook, TE, Tennessee Titans – The 24-year-old is probably the most-sought after tight end on the market. The Titans were considered a lock to franchise him, but when Cook’s representation threatened to contest a tight end franchise tag of $6 million because Cook played most of his 2012 snaps at receiver ($10.5 million franchise tag), the Titans let him hit the market. Tennessee would like to re-sign Cook, but he likely will receive interest in free agency from teams like Seattle, Chicago, Miami and Cleveland. Cook is a pass-catching tight end that can threaten the middle of the defense, and would pair nicely with Seattle’s Zach Miller, with the frequency of Seattle’s use of two tight end sets.

Josh Johnson, QB, Cleveland Browns – The 26-year-old University of San Diego product was cut by San Francisco at the end of training camp in 2012, and finished the year with Cleveland. Johnson had a workout with Seattle at the end of last year, and is the cousin of Marshawn Lynch. He would give the Seahawks a backup quarterback with a similar skill set of Russell Wilson if Seattle decides to trade Matt Flynn. But the Seahawks likely will have some competition with San Francisco and Cincinnati for his services.

Richard Seymour, DT, Oakland Raiders – The 33-year-old only played in eight games last season for Oakland, finishing the season on the injured reserve with a hamstring injury. But Seymour could be an inexpensive alternative in free agency as an inside pass rusher who can still get after the quarterback. And new defensive line coach Travis Jones coached him at Georgia.

Charles Woodson, DB, Green Bay Packers – The Seahawks are one of four teams that reportedly contacted the 36-year-old veteran, inquiring about his services after he was recently released by the Packers. Woodson would be a good fit for Seattle as a nickel cornerback, bringing veteran leadership to the back end of a young and talented secondary. “Charles has been a good football player,” Seattle head coach Pete Carroll said about Woodson at the combine. “I don’t know if this is the time and place or not. I know he’s looking for a spot right now. A guy of that kind of caliber, it would be a great opportunity to have him play with our young guys. I don’t know if it will ever work out, but we’ll see.”

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  1. Let the day begin!

  2. bbnate420 says:

    I’ll be completely shocked if they sign Cook. It seems like it would be financially irresponsible. If Miller’s already supposedly making too much, why would you go after another high priced TE? Especially with 4 good to exceptional WRs.

  3. bbnate420 says:

    Guess the TNT still hasn’t figured out that the clocks were set ahead.

  4. FleaFlicker says:

    Desmond Bryant seems like the best of the list: addresses a position of need, a handful of good physical years left, and probably comes with a DUI-discount in terms of contract and salary cap. Also think it’s pretty cool that Desmond majored in economics. At Harvard.

    That Percy Harvin post yesterday has something like 250 comments. Got to be some sort of record for a single post on the blog.

  5. Lets beef this Defense up Ya-hooo its looking good.

  6. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i get the feeling that this will be a typical off season for the hawks , lots of moves.
    still like bryant DT if the price is right. also if price is right bring back branch and jones.

  7. Eric, will Bryant face a suspension for the first 4 games because of the DUI? If so, that doesn’t help us for having insurance for Clemons return.

    Are there any other d line guys on the radar besides the ones you’ve mentioned?

  8. CDHawkFan says:

    Bringing up the Harvin deal again…

    I like this line-up more than what we had for Superbowl 40, R. Wilson vs. M. Hasselbeck, M. Lynch vs S Alexander, P. Harvin vs D. Jackson, Z Miller vs J Stevens.

    Also assuming Harvin will most likely (or could) line up in the back field on 3rd down passing play’s, putting Rice, Tate, Harvin, Miller, and Baldwin on the field at the same time. Maybe that is going to limit Turbin’s plays?

    Like others, I hope we front load Harvin’s deal while we have the cheap contracts for R Wilson, R Sherman, G Tate, B Wagner. Those will run out in 1 – 3 years, so better pay up now.

    Kind of wish we would have gave the Vikings a 4th or 5th this year instead of a 3rd next year as we are still going to have a difficult time opening up roster spots for this years picks. Teams usually asked for a better/higher pick if the pick is not in the coming year. Who knows, maybe this was a Viking’s request to defer to 2014.

    Hoping they can deal someone this year for that 3rd next year, the 7th this year is no biggie as we have at least 2 picks in that area (and could be a total of 4 once the Comp picks are given out) so they will still have a chance for people they like/spots they want to fill.

    The $12 m per year is steep, but what reciever that has proven himself (years of experience and production) is getting paid less? Its seems to be the going rate. The Seahawks will just not be able to pay their 5th reciever the Obo type money, which to be honest they shouldn’t as they won’t get much in production. For the Harvin years, the 5th reciever will be a young late pick/rookie FA type guy getting low $. If you can do this, then the 2.5 million to Obo can go 500k to a rookie and $2 m going towards Harvin’s contract, then you are getting Harvin for 10 m per. Did the fact that Obo being hurt cost us any games when compaired to what J Kerse or C. Martin did?

  9. bbnate420 says:

    Bryant plays DT, not the Leo. He provides pass rush inside, but I wouldn’t really call him insurance for Clemons. It’s way too early to say whether or not he gets suspended. People here were convinced Lynch was going to be suspended last year.

  10. “Kind of wish we would have gave the Vikings a 4th or 5th this year instead of a 3rd next year as we are still going to have a difficult time opening up roster spots for this years picks. ”

    Did we give them a 3rd rounder next year, or did you just mean a third draft pick?

  11. Dukeshire says:

    The presumption is that the “mid-round” pick next year is a third round.

  12. bbnate420 says:

    Someone reported that the pick in 2014 is a 3rd, I can’t remember who.

  13. Palerydr says:

    I think the trade is ok however I am leery of Harvins personality causing problems in the locker room. I wonder if Russel Wilson showed up at the airport to pick up Harvin with his Seahawks playbook in tow to start going over Harvins role in the offense? “Separation is in the preparation” you know.

    All FA want to get paid, I’m almost sure that all Football players want to win the Super Bowl. I’m hoping we actually get a discount from FA this year as we are the odds makers fav to get to, and win the Super Bowl. I like Desmond Bryant I hope he is a guy we can get.

  14. bbnate420 says:

    It was Jay Glazer.

  15. Dukeshire says:

    Glazer, Rappaport, Schefter, they’re all parroting themselves with the third. I would love for the details to show them all wrong, just because…

  16. bbnate420 says:

    I wouldn’t count on a young guy like Bryant giving us any discount. He hasn’t made a lot of money in NFL terms yet. He’s also reported to have the Whiners and Pats interested in him as well, no slouches. Maybe an older player like a Abraham or Harrison comes here for less.

  17. You forgot Michael Bennett, the best young DE in free agency. Three-down DE who can rotate inside to DT, rush the passer from inside or outside, and has Chris Clemons-like hands, feet, and pass rush moves. Former Seahawk as a rookie free agent. And he’s only 27. He would be the perfect replacement for Clemons early in the season, and a great contributor all over the D line for years to come.

  18. Southendzone says:

    Wasn’t it the Vikings that totally screwed Cleveland in last year’s draft day trade to move up one spot in the 1st round?

    You have to give them credit for their trades, they get great value back for them. You’d think by now they could have turned it into something (last year’s playoff game doesn’t qualify, Ponder sucks)

  19. bird_spit says:

    I just hope PC/JS brain continues to go all in for the young talent, and very skeptical of the older talent. This year is legit chance of a Super Bowl run, but lets also be in the running in 2014/15/16/17…

  20. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Big, hairy sasquatch. Lol bbnate420.

    No talk of Freeney? Is he washed up?

  21. chuck_easton says:


    Bennett won’t come cheap. If Harvin Just took up 12 mill of the 17 mill salary cap money seattle has things are getting tight for any other high priced FA signings.

    I think Seattle’s rookie alotment for this year is around 3 million or so. That means 15 of the 17 million is gone. 2 million to spend.

    Only way that number goes up is re-structuring, releasing, trading players already signed. Can be done, but if the team was going to be clearing cap money they would have already started as teams such as Pitt, Dallas, Washington, NYG, NYJ, have done.

    Flynn doesn’t save the team much money at all by outright releasing him. So it’s either a trade or he’s on the team.

    Obo is very likely gone. That’s a big 2.5 million there. If Washington is traded/released that’s another 2 million or so.

  22. No, Bennet won’t come cheap. Neither will Bryant. Neither will re-signing Alan Branch. They can likely only do one of those three moves, unless perhaps they can squeeze in both Bennet and Bryant, which would be an awesome D line rebuild.

    I can dream, right?

    And isn’t it time for James Carpenter to get restructured since he’s been getting paid off reputation alone for two years already?

  23. maybe we should sign wes welker, so we can run 4-slot-receiver sets.

    just kidding. I’m still a little griped about shooting our wad on the harvin move.

  24. surelyyoujest says:

    I would be surprised if Harvin’s cap number is $12M this season. The deal will likely average that, but I’m thinking they’ll throw in a signing bonus and backload the last 2 years. It might look like a 5 year $60M deal, but I’m hoping it’s in reality a 3 year deal, with $30M guaranteed, and minimal dead money if the Seahawks choose to cut him after 3 (if he doesn’t earn his money).

    I expect the last 2 years of the deal will be cap numbers in the high teens or low twenty million area…..that he’ll never see. We either cut him after 3 years, or restructure.

    Does anyone know if the $17M in cap space includes the carry over money from last year (unspent 2012 cap) ?

  25. I would pass on Jared Cook – much more interested in Dustin Keller.

    Desmond Bryant would be a priority IMO.

  26. bbnate420 says:

    Georgia, I’ve been waiting for you to comment on my parody. I finally did one for you. BobbyK didn’t come with one.

    Bennett will cost a lot more than either Bryant or Branch IMO. I would bet that Bennett gets at least twice whatever Branch can get. I doubt they can afford Bennett.

    Trading/releasing Obo and Leon frees up 4.425 mil.

  27. montanamike2 says:

    Today i’m more concerned about Tate and the Defense, i hope PC/JS have more moves coming or they’ve zero’d in on some more sleepers from Quinn’s inside knowledge or a few of our scouts. If Tate and Harvin can get along then we have 2 dynamic playmakers as Tate will only improve If not, then i hate this move.

  28. bbnate420 says:

    surelyyoujest, they had approx. 13 mil in carry over from 2012. That means their adjusted cap is approx. 136 mil for 2013. They must’ve had approx. 119 mil committed in salaries for 2013 before the Harvin signing. Their 2014 adjusted cap will be whatever the cap is set at plus the cap room left unused under that 136 mil in 2013.

    Where it gets really complicated is trying to figure out what the Hawks will have committed in 2014, and none of us could I imagine. At least with the information available. How much of the 2013 salary committed is dead money from the past that will be gone in 2014? Will the amount of money owed to current contracts increase or decline in 2014, i.e. will more money be saved from contracts like Miller’s that have a significant decrease in cap number from 2013 to 2014 or will the amount from contracts that increase in cap number outweigh those. Then you have to factor in players that will be traded, released, or restructured. And players that will need to be resigned. It’s enough to make your head spin.

  29. chuck_easton says:

    Surely ( I know…and don’t call me Shirley. Airplane! Reference),

    While I agree that the actual cap hit this season may be low. We don’t know and won’t until after 1pm pdt when the contract can be revealed.

    Until then it’s the rumoured 12 million.

    If Seattle lands a FA DT I will be thrilled.

    While it’s not my money I still think long term.

    We have a ferry load ( boat load in all other parts of the country) of younguns that are already out performing their rookie contracts.

    I want to keep everyone of them but it won’t happen. Someone’s gonna want to get paid. Nature of the business. They aren’t going to stay at a lower price just because they love the Starbucks Lattes and high speed Microsoft Internet provided at VMAC.

    I guess we hope for a win now and let the future take care of itself attitude.

  30. jawpeace says:

    The player I want the Hawks to resign the most…Clint Gresham! Yeah I remember some terrible times back in the early 2000’s, where the Hawks had to go beg a retired guy to come and play long snapper as everyone else was sucking bad.
    My personal opinion I don’t think that Harvin is deserving of 10-12 mil a year. I would put him at 8 mil value. Until he can demonstrate the ability to be a super team mate along with his skills. He does not deserve that much.

  31. chuck, you’re exactly right, long-term thinking is a good thing, but the cap gives NFL teams cycles of rebuilding and opportunity that last just a few years. Schneider is managing this team to build and peak in a 5-year period, the length of his contract and Carroll’s contract. He’s doing one heck of a job with that. This year and next year are the years to spend money on the final pieces that put the team over the top.

    They will pay dearly for those moves in 2015-16 and lose key players, and the cycle of rebuilding will end. That’s how the business works with the cap in place. If there is a Lombardi Trophy on the shelf by then, the plan will have succeeded an no one will complain about the next rebuild.

  32. montanamike2 says:

    Flacco’s contract killed his teams chances of another SB.

  33. HawkfaninMT says:

    With regards to Jawpiece’s comment…

    One position that NEEDS to be filled is Kicker. This isn’t an upgrade. We do not have one. So with all the cap talk going on, there is also a couple M that needs to go to signing a reliable kicker. Whether that is Haushka, or Tynes, or whoever… the fact is, we need one!

  34. bbnate420 says:

    Stevos, I agree to some extent, but the cap really mainly puts a premium on drafting well year after year. Like the twins have done thus far. You have to have young replacements ready. I think you have to make certain moves with an eye towards being good enough to win the SB, but I wouldn’t completely mortgage the future for a year or 2. If RW is the player we think he is, he has another 10 great years at least. I think you have a better chance of winning a SB if you have a very good team for 5-7 years than if you have a great team for 1-2 years. A lot of things have to happen to win a SB in any given year. That’s why BobbyK is still fuming about the missed opportunity. I don’t think the best team in a given season even wins the SB a lot of the time. It comes down to a team that gets hot at the right time and/or gets the right match ups much of the time. The 2007/2011 Giants. The 2010 Packers. The Ravens last year. 2005 Stealers. Did anyone here pick those teams to win the SB going into the playoffs?

    The NFLPA accepting the new CBA killed the Ravens chances of another SB. Maybe if the flat cap hurts teams enough the owners won’t be so greedy next time around?

  35. Stupid website told me Im posting too fast when I spent 10 minutes writing a comment and I havent even commented on this thread…second time today thats happened….lame!

  36. I wanted Michael Bennett far more than Harvin. He would seem to be a perfect fit for Carrols defensive philosophy, a guy who is strong and fast and versatile (can play both DT and DE), a better version of Jason Jones.

    Desmond Bryant would also be a nice pickup. Both will cost a ton. However, by dumping guys like Washington (who I hate to see go, but he’s slowing and expensive)and Obomanu and by converting some salaries to cash, they can free up a good bit of cap space for this year and the next few years. That way they can sign at least one FA defensive lineman to a fat contract and still have some wiggle room in years to come to extend guys like Thomas, Sherm, Chancellor, Tate, etc.

    Not to mention the option of dumping Flynn and his salary for whatever they can get; its worth it if it enables them to sign a player or players like Bryant and Bennett. I like the idea of checking out Josh Johnson too.

    I also think they are targeting a DT and a DE in the second to fourth round from the SEC they think will be overlooked. They are relying on intel from Quinn to get their young guys on the D-line to groom. And perhaps they are high on Howard and expect him to make a leap in performance next year…

  37. Canty would seem to be done. Cook would be awesome, but I dont see Seattle spending the money on him when they just spent so much on Harvin. I think they resign Morrah for cheap. I would like to see Omiyale and McDonald return, not sure about Hauschka as he cant make 50 yarders for beans.

    Abraham is amazing, he’s still playing well at 34. Freeney will go to Denver. Seymour is looking old and spent as well. Hard to say. I hope whoever we get doesnt play like Raheem Brock in his final year….

  38. bbnate420 says:

    Moving Flynn this year doesn’t really open much space in 2013 after you factor in signing another QB. Releasing him really opens nothing. Doesn’t sound like they’re going to get a lot for Flynn. I’d keep him. Moving him in 2013 does free 2 mil towards the 2014 cap.

    If we wanted to sign Bennett for 8 mil this year and then make it up by releasing Red in 2014, it doesn’t really work that way. Let’s say for simplicity that they sign Bennett for 8 mil and that 8 mil takes them right to the cap limit. That means that their cap in 2014 will be whatever the league sets it at. If they don’t spend the 8 mil, then their adjusted cap in 2014 would be whatever the league sets the cap at plus 8 mil. It affects the ceiling that they have to spend on players in 2014.

  39. bbnate420 says:

    I’d take how Brock played his first year here.

    In more serious news, did anyone hear that Brett Favre sent Harvin a pic text to congratulate him this morning?

  40. I dont see Seattle releasing Red. They can only sign one big-money player on the line, be it DT or DE. I think they are trying to sign an older DE for relatively little, and they know they have to spend to get a DT. Thats why I like Bennett so much–he can play DT or DE. I can see how you could justify not having Red if you had Bennett though.

    If Branch doesnt resign, they have a HUGE need at DT, as Howard isnt likely to be the starter, nor McDonald. McDonald is a rotational guy at best so far. And Howard is a question mark.

    I think trading Flynn would free up 5 million this year, and a guy like Johnson wouldnt cost that much to replace him. Which would leave 2-3 million in cap space this year as well as some for 2014 and 2015.

    They also will likely not be keeping Obomanu, instead keeping Baldwin and perhaps Kearse or another young guy who is cheaper. And it looks like they will either trade Washington or cut him, so those two moves would free up almost 5 million more in space this year and some next.

    Thats enough cap space to sign Bennett or Bryant and a DE who doesnt break the bank, as well as a little to carry over for next year. And that doesnt take into account their ability to extend guys like Rice or Miller and/or convert their salaries to cash either this year or next to fix the cap hit.

  41. bbnate–I hope it wasnt like the last pic text Favre sent lol!

    Brock was great his first year here, but the next year he looked old slow and happy just to be collecting a paycheck.

    I wonder if Scruggs will step up this year? I like his motor.

  42. PugetHawk says:

    I think Rice and/or Miller are going to restructure their deal. If they were cut today their value on the open market would be less than their number is now with the Hawks so they don’t have a leg to stand on. Then we will see some D-Line moves.

    As far as Harvin goes, he is going to be ten times better than any receiver that would have been available at 25. His injury issues are migraines that have been solved with diet change and his ability to play last year was negated because Frazier didn’t like his attitude. He could have played physically.

  43. bbnate420 says:

    Trading Flynn would free 3.25 mil in cap space in 2013 and 2 mil in 2014. It doesn’t sound like they’re going to get close to a 3rd for him. I hope that’s incorrect. Releasing him would only free 1.25 mil in 2013 and 2 in 2014. He’s not signed in 2015. Then you have to either expend a decent draft pick on a backup or pay a couple of mil at least to sign a decent one. The thought of Josh Johnson being our #2 is enough to make me puke up my Wheaties. He would be relatively cheap.

    I don’t think they could afford/justify having both Bennett and Red in 2014. I don’t think they can sign Bennett regardless. I think they’re hoping one of the older DEs will not find much of a market and be willing to sign for cheap here for an opportunity to win. Maybe a mid/low level DT as well. Branch may find his market lacking. It doesn’t seem to me like they can afford not to leave themselves with a decent amount of cap space to carry over to 2013. I really don’t think they want to have their adjusted cap at 125 mil or so, whatever the league sets it at.

  44. bbnate420 says:

    PugetHawk, I don’t think you’re right about Rice or Miller. I’m 99.9 % sure you’re wrong about Miller in fact. He has plenty of legs to stand on. The Hawks only save 4 mil if they release Miller. They’re not going to sign anyone even near his caliber for that. He’s going to get 4 mil of new money from the Hawks in 2013 even if they release him. And I guarantee you that he gets at least 6 mil from another team for 2013. That’s 10 mil, 1 less than he’ll get currently without restructuring. And I wouldn’t doubt that he gets 7 mil from another team.

    The Hawks could save 6.1 mil against the cap in 2013 by releasing Rice. The question is does he believe he could get close to 8.5 mil from another team in 2013. I think he could. Especially if Bowe can get 11+ mil. He caught 50 passes in 80 targets last year. That’s very good. His targets ranked 73rd in the NFL, behind the likes of Chris Givens, Ben Watson, and Nate Washington. I don’t think either is in a position that they need to take a pay cut based on leverage.

  45. R.Longwell is on the team, and although S.Hauska (sp?) is a UFA, he’s not yet on another team. This non-tampering period sure seems strange.

  46. bbnate420 says:

    Don’t worry about the long snapper, we’ve got that covered. I read that the Hawks have signed Numbskull as a consultant, because he’s got an unknown snapper pegged for us to draft in the 4th. ;-)

  47. klm–Strange is right. Teams are hesitant to sign aging vets, they seem to want to pay little for FA guys over 27. Everyone is looking for value, and wary of overpaying older players. Not a good time to be a FA veteran. Plenty of guy who can really play a) arent going to get the money they should and b) could end up unemployed.

    Teams are copying the Packers and Hawks, trying to build through cheap young labor with a few key stars at certain positions. Others are dumping salary to get back under the salary cap. No one is throwing money around, and team chemistry and cohesion are suddenly a bigger topic than ever before.

    The times they are a-changin’.

  48. bbnate420 says:

    You have to remember that the more that you backload a contract, the less likely you can keep that player around at the end of the contract even if they are playing up to it. Say for example, they sign Harvin for 5 years and 60 mil with 30 guaranteed. 10 mil of the guaranteed as a signing bonus and then a 6.66 mil average base the first 3 years all guaranteed. You would then have to give him a 15 mil per year base for the last 2 years. That’s 17 mil per season against the cap the last 2 years. Even if he’s playing great, you probably can’t afford that. If he’s playing great, he may be able to get 15 mil or so a year for a few years from a team with cap space going into his age 28 season. You don’t leave a lot of room to restructure.

  49. Agreed, bbnate, Seattle must be careful when back-loading contracts, to ensure they have a way out if the player’s performance degrades, etc. Im not going to offer specific ways they can tweak contracts, Im no cap specialist and we dont have their numbers. But it IS in the realm of possibility for them to sign another big-name big-money player in FA. Easy? No. Likely? Not so much. But definitely possible.

    To me, it appears they structured Rice and Millers contracts to be either lowered, extended, or simply dropped. They arent going to stand as-is for the next couple years. But what do I know? I dont think this offense runs without those two, so they kidna have Seattle by the shorties…

  50. And there’s no way in hell Seattle cuts Flynn. Its trade him or keep him. Im cool with both, though I would love to replace next years mid round pick lost to the Vikes by trading him and to see his salary off the books. Plus I am rooting for him to get a chance to start ASAP. Though if Wilson goes down with injury (God Forbid!) we’ll all be thanking our lucky stars if Flynn is still on the team, and likely crying in our beer over a lost season with so much promise if we’ve traded him…

  51. bbnate420 says:

    I’m not a cap specialist, but I’m fairly good with numbers. I definitely don’t have anywhere close to the full picture that a team has with their cap specialists. With my amateur analysis of the cap info I have, I would be shocked if they sign another FA for big money. By that I mean 8+ mil a year. But hey, I didn’t think they would invest the capital to get a Harvin so what do I know? The one thing that is certain is the less cap space they leave themselves this year, the lower their adjusted cap number will be in 2014. In other words, the less money they have to build the 2014 roster. And it has a domino effect on successive years.

  52. bbnate420 says:

    Seattle is running out of suitors for Flynn. Jacksonville and who? The Browns maybe.

  53. surelyyoujest says:

    Stevos, I agree the build and re-build cycle is certainly part of a post-cap NFL. However, if PC is acting on his own retoric, then “Win Forever” precludes 3 good years and 2 years of rebuilding. I think all of these big contracts they are signing are timed so that they will always have difficult decisions to make, but options so they can strategically drop over acheivers and keep underacheivers without signifcant dead money. If they aren’t doing this the whole “Win Forever” thing is just talk.

    I don’t want to see what is going on in New York, or Minnesota, or Dallas, or Washington, or Baltimore and other cities go on here. The wager is too great. Sure Baltimore won a SB but most Teams don’t. NFL playoffs are one game winner take all affairs and anything can happen in one game. I’m not down with the whole “all in” mindset and then watch a dismanteling of the Team….whether or not we won or lost. Winning makes it easier, sure. But not easy.

    That’s just a long way to say it will be interesting to see how PC/JS manage the Team in the long haul. My working assumption right now (until they prove otherwise) is that “Win Forever” is the goal…..and we’re not “all-in on 2014″.

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