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Report: Seahawks trade for WR Percy Harvin

Post by Eric Williams on March 11, 2013 at 9:32 am with 83 Comments »
March 11, 2013 9:53 am
Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Percy Harvin (12) runs on the field during an NFL football game between the Seattle Seahawks and the Minnesota Vikings in Seattle, WA Sunday, November 4, 2012. (AP Photo/Tom Hauck)
Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Percy Harvin (12) runs on the field during an NFL football game between the Seattle Seahawks and the Minnesota Vikings in Seattle, WA Sunday, November 4, 2012. (AP Photo/Tom Hauck)

According to a report by Jay Glazer of Fox Sports, the Seattle Seahawks have made a trade for Minnesota receiver Percy Harvin for draft picks.

The Seahawks have not confirmed the deal, which cannot become official until the new league year officially begins on Tuesday.

Further, according to the report, the trade for Harvin, 24, won’t become official until he passes a physical. Harvin reportedly is on his way to Seattle today.

Seattle has 10 picks in this year’s draft, and head coach Pete Carroll said at his season-ending press conference that it was likely that all 10 picks would not make the 2013 roster. So Seahawks general manager John Schneider had some motivation to move a couple picks if he could get an impact player back in return.

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reports that the trade includes Seattle giving up its No. 25 overall, first round pick in this year’s draft, and that Harvin will receive a new deal in Seattle.

According to Glazer, Seattle is giving up a first round and seventh round pick in this year’s draft, along with a mid-round pick in 2014.

Harvin gives Seattle one of the best three-receiver sets in the league, and likely will play slot receiver, with Sidney Rice and Golden Tate out wide.

Harvin also reunites with Seattle offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who served as his offensive coordinator in Minnesota.

However, Harvin does come with his share of baggage.

He finished last year on the injured reserve after suffering an ankle injury against Seattle last season. But the reason he finished 2012 on the shelf has more to do with a blowup with head coach Leslie Frazier in front of teammates, according to this report.

Harvin as one year left on his deal, and is set to make $2.755 million in base salary in 2013. But he reportedly wants an extension that would make him one of the highest paid receivers in the NFL

Harvin gives Seattle another explosive playmaker offensively, and could be work the risk of giving up draft compensation. Harvin’s injury issues could be lessoned by the fact that he would be more of a complementary player for Seattle, and therefore won’t be used as much.

Harvin also could spell Leon Washington in the return game.

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  1. trout_hound says:

    F*** yeah!!! That’s all I have to say about that.

  2. Where does Harvin play when the Seahawks field a 2 WR set?

  3. First and seventh round picks this year. Mid round pick next year.

    That’s the scuttlebutt.

  4. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i don’t like this at all. harvin has a bad attitude and wants way to much money. unless the hawks plan to rent him for a year at his current contract.

  5. For a team that only throws 20-25 times a game, how are they going to keep Rice & Harvin happy?

  6. They keep them happy by winning ball games.

  7. If Cornutt is correct, I don’t like the deal at all. Way too much to give up for a gimp and a grump.

  8. wow — that’s a very bold move — did not expect us to trade our #1 at all, not with the way we’ve drafted these past few years. But he’s a legitimate playmaker, and he’s just entering his prime, and those guys aren’t cheap I suppose. And with RW developing, who’s to say we won’t be throwing it more next year?

    Still need to address the D-line, but yeah, if Percy can stay healthy, he can be a difference maker.

    Surprised by this one. . . but withholding judgment until I see how it shakes out.

  9. I am guessing this is going to be a 5 year $60 million contract. That’s going to be a huge amount of 2013 cash compensation tied up in Rice, Miller and Harvin ($33 million) – assuming one of the first 2 don’t get released.

  10. abqhwkfn says:

    I am not a fan of this move at all.

  11. pabuwal: That’s entirely too much money devoted to the receivers/TEs when you consider that there are several proven commodities on the roster who will have a payday coming in the next year or two.

  12. patmcfar8 says:

    Pabuwal… true, but usually rosters that win the superbowl don’t come cheap. ;-) And their might be a small chance that Rice or Miller are asked to restructure, but no way either are released. None.

  13. trout_hound says:

    I bet Bevell is salivating over how he’s going to use Harvin and Rice together again. I also bet every single Hawk not named Baldwin is probably ecstatic right now. Well, Golden Tate didn’t sound too excited either (“it’s a business…”). Now, if we could sign Freeney or Abraham for a reasonable amount. I like getting our needs addressed before the draft, then you can just focus on best available player instead of reaching for a need. Way to go, Schniedy and Pete!!!

  14. Well, on the surface, I think quite a few of us don’t like this deal. I certainly didn’t want Harvin here. I didn’t think very highly of Marshawn Lynch before he became a Seahawk either, so clearly I am no John Schneider.

    I am a little uncertain of what this move means for the future of the Seahawks offense. Bevell has been quoted as saying that he is perfectly fine with letting Russel throw the ball 50 times a game if need be. Adding a Percy Harvin sure would seem like a move in that direction just due to the raw number of targets that he receives.

    His versatility and game breaking threat alone forces defenses to adjust, even if he’s not catching the ball 7 – 10 times per game.

    What I want to know is what Doug Baldwin is thinking right now. What is Golden Tate thinking right now?

    We’re going to find out how this shakes out in the locker room, but be ready for waves. Don’t be surprised if someone throws a tantrum.

  15. There is no reason to have those 2 restructure unless it involves a pay cut. The Seahawks don’t have any salary cap problems. Either they keep them or cut them – there is no in between.

  16. bigmike04 says:

    Shocking, thought good move just mean someone on this team will not be back & it might be part of the defensive side of ball when it time for someone to get a contact extension…

  17. FleaFlicker says:

    You’ve got to figure that Leon is headed out the door with this acquisition. Which partially offsets Harvin’s payday.

    Looks like we did get a WR with our first-round pick after all.

  18. Dukeshire says:

    Depends on down and distance, perhaps even the backfield.

  19. JazBadAzz says:

    Percy is the ultimate weapon! He was having an mvp season before his ankle got banged up and then the dust up with his coach! The entire league is on notice!

    I don’t know why you guys continue to question Pete and John so much, they always make the right moves! This guy can line up all over the field and back field!

    I wanted Percy the year he came out, now I finally got him! I wonder what number he is going to wear? 12 is taken!

  20. JazBadAzz says:

    Besides, you can’t get a player like that in this draft anyways! Advantage Seahawks!

  21. We need a poll on this one Eric, once we get the contract details. :)

  22. seatowntp says:

    Three thoughts. . .

    First, given the first round selections PC & JS made in 2011 and 2012, I was hoping they would trade out of the first round for additional picks. Their forte appears to be later round gems. I TRUST they will produce some more nuggets this year!

    Second, with regards to RW being capable of throwing the ball more frequently. . . consider the Atlanta game. (I realize the circumstances necessitated throwing the ball because Seattle was behind, however. . .) RW was 24 for 36 for 385 yards. I believe RW established another dimension to his game. I sense this year’s Seahawks will even be more wide open. Dear Cardinals, that 58 to 0 game will look like a nail biter compared to this year’s version!

    Finally, and this is obviously a reach, it made me wonder if they executed this trade, do they already have something in place for Flynn (including a compensation package?) I KNOW they are not connected, it just made me wonder.

  23. I wouldn’t necessarily think of Leon as “out the door”. If Harvin is getting a fat new contract upon the trade being completed, then taking him off of kick returns might be in the best interest of keeping him healthy.

    I am more inclined to think that this move is more a shift in offensive approach, especially with the latest I’ve read about NFL Competition Committee basically neutering cut-blocks. Cut-blocks are a BIG part of Cable’s system, and rules for cut-blocking is about to change; quite possibly in a big way.

  24. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i am really wondering if this isn’t the end of rice. also would they be willing to trade tate or baldwin at this point?

    obo is gone and probably mcquistan as well that gives you about 5.5 right there.

  25. ChrisHolmes says:

    I like this move. A lot. I’m elated. In terms of draft-pick value, I love this trade.

    There’s no way you get a WR with Harvin’s talent and productivity, explosiveness, etc., at #25. Not a chance. No WR you take in this year’s draft is going to be as ready out of the gate to produce as Harvin will be. And this is exactly what this offense was missing: a dynamic slot receiver. We have two guys on the outside who can make plays. We have Miller. We have Lynch. We were missing a scary slot guy. Harvin fits the bill perfectly.

    And the odds of a 7th round draft pick making your team, let alone having any kind of impact, are slim. So the 7th this year doesn’t bother me at all. That’s why you have those picks – to package and make deals. A mid rounder next year? If Harvin does what he’s capable of, we’ll all think it was a bargain.

    I was really hating sitting there at #25 in the first round of a very un-sexy draft thinking we’re going to have to pick a linemen that probably isn’t worth the 25th pick (visions of Chris Spencer swimming into view). There are linemen abound in this draft – there’s no reason to feel you have to sit there and take something at #25.

    To me, this is the BEST possible use of our first round pick. This is the BEST value we could have possibly gotten for the #25 pick overall.

    As for Harvin’s contract – we don’t know what he’s asking for from Seattle. It could very well be that going to Seattle, Harvin will not demand the large amount of coin he wanted in Minnesota, or somewhere else where they are not going to see the playoffs. Harvin is being reunited with a coordinator who will know how to use him, with a WR he also knows and can work with in Rice, and he’s now going to get to play with one of the most explosive and magnetic young franchise QB’s in the league. If you’re a 24-year-old explosive slot WR you want to play on this team right now. That might work in Seattle’s favor as far as contracts go.

    I mean, JS and PC had to feel they have a chance to sign him to something that works for both sides in order for them to make this trade. I have to believe they know what they’re doing here.

    This makes me very, very excited. This is great trade. We get an explosive player to add to our arsenal of weapons. Harvin will create matchup problems for defenses; he’ll be a constant worry for defensive coordinators. He’s one more guy for our smart, accurate QB to get the ball to.

    Love it.

  26. What this does is tie up more money that should go to Kam or Earl or Brandon next year. But they will free up over 3 million when they cut Leon.

  27. I can’t say I like this move much, not for a first round pick. Harvin is now the most talented slot receiver on our team, but we had two very good slot receivers already. What the offense needed was a split end to stretch the field and another receiving tight end. We won’t get those now without getting lucky in the later rounds of the draft. I think Bevell got a guy he really wanted here, but this move crowds the roster at a position that was already strong.

    Honestly, I won’t be surprised if they follow this move by trading away Golden Tate.

  28. Picture the OLBs biting on the read-option, Harvin left running a slant uncovered, Rice open on the deep route, me screaming in my living room, etc… I love it.

  29. RDPoulsbo says:

    I’m not going to say I like it or not right now, but it does signal a big change on offense philosophically. On it’s own, it’s probably not a good deal, but there’s likely more pieces to this puzzle coming.

    It also means Leon and Obomanu will probably be gone soon. You’re gonna need to offset some of that cap room if not now, but position for the future and there’s no room for a 2nd KR and a $2M+/year #5 WR. Tate and Baldwin won’t be cut, but they’re likely on the trading block now, especially Tate. He’s in the last year of his contract and has shown enough playmaking ability to be too expensive to re-sign next year with both Rice and Harvin on the roster.

  30. montanamike2 says:

    WOW!
    All i can say is thank god he didn’t go to the 9r’s. All of a sudden we have an elite wr core. Time to draft on the defense, i don’t think he’ll be as much of a headache here as he was in Min. Winning does tend to change a persons attitude and he’ll have way more talent around him now, perhaps he will be a team player ala Lynch. I like the fact that he’s so young.

  31. Dukeshire says:

    It will be interesting to see what they give him. We are talking about a guy who’s never been a 100 yard receiver, never had more than 6 TD in a season, has 87 receptions as a season high. Yes he’s explosive and gives you a ton of versatility, but they do seem (reportedly) to be giving up a lot.

  32. Dukeshire says:

    1000 yard…

  33. montanamike2 says:

    ChrisHolmes i was posting at the same time as you, we are in agreement on a lot of things. Obo will be released probably.

  34. montanamike2 says:

    As a run first team Duke, we are now a nightmare for defensive coordinaters.

  35. Tate did very well at splint end this season, if I’m not mistaken it’s the only place he’s really been able to produce, and he’s done so in great ways, I’d rather play Tate than Harvin to be honest, not because of the play on the field necessarily but because of all the other stuff, and Tate is such an amazing player when it comes to jumping and timing those huge leaps, not sure if Harvin is anywhere near his level when it comes to that, furthermore, Tate isn’t as fragile.

  36. right, if it’s a 2nd round pick, there’s no discussion at all, it’s a steal. but a 1st round pick for a guy who was so vocal about wanting out? That’s the only question to me. You would think the Vikes wouldn’t have had the leverage to get a 1st when Harvin pretty clearly was gone after this season. But of course, I have no way of knowing what else was offered, and our first is on the low side at #25.

    Agree w/the other posters who note that Harvin is going to be better than any other WR we could have drafted at #25, and he’s still very young. Whatever the opinion on the trade value, it’s going to be real exciting to see him on the field for the Hawks.

  37. Repost:
    I don’t know how to feel about this, and won’t until we know what he’s making.
    If he gets the 10 mil/year that we’ve read he wants, I’ll be kind of disappointed.
    The reality is that you’re not just giving up the #25 pick, you’re also then spending 8 mil a year more than you would on that rookie. That means you gave up the rookie, plus the free agent that you could have had for 8 mil a year.
    I’d rather have Keenan Allen and Sedrick Ellis at the same cost, or pay Mike Wallace the 10 mil and keep the #25 pick.

    That being said, I’m really excited to see him in blue, he’s an electric player and I’m sure will do it all in our offense.

  38. montanamike2 says:

    I’d keep Tate as a SE and Harvin as a slot.

  39. And I really don’t want to see Baldwin go either, he is a great dude and was completely underused last year, sure he had some drops but come on.

  40. Harvin is a more dynamic, more complete player than GT. I like GT, and he came on strong last year, but let’s be real here. I heard someone suggest this was like when we traded our first for Branch. Seriously? Folks need to go watch some Harvin tape. I’m not suggesting there’s not risks, but Harvin is really really good. And he’s been really good with a mediocre QB.

  41. montanamike2 says:

    I don’t think he’ll demand more money than Rice.

  42. raymaines says:

    My guess is five years / 47.5 million / 20M guaranteed.

    RW is already packaging game video for PH to study.

  43. patmcfar8 says:

    This move makes our offense ridiculous!

    I can understand some of the trepidation I’m seeing here, but let me remind you of something… remember what our roster looked like the day Pete was hired? Look at it now. Now smack yourself and try to get that $%^& eating grin off your face.

    Also, one more component of this trade that seems to be going relatively unnoticed… now we’re forced to take the 32nd overall pick in next year’s draft. Boom.

  44. Profootballtalk has been covering Harvin’s dis-satisfaction for weeks, and has consistently reported he wants “Calvin Johnson Larry Fitzgerald money”
    I hope they’re wrong, but doubt it.

  45. Tate’s not going anywhere. He proved he was dynamic and can make explosive plays at the SE position last year.
    Baldwin is now #4 WR, and gives us some quality depth. Remember when Baldwin was hurt, next guys up last year were Jermaine Kearse and Charly Martin. Not scaring anybody with them.

    I don’t know about Leon, but Obo is definitely gone.

  46. Southendzone says:

    For RW the separation is in the preparation. For Harvin the separation is in the remuneration.

    Big gamble, I’m not loving it right now just because I think our defense needs work and a 1st rounder seems high. Going into the draft w/o a 1st round pick sucks.

  47. “And he’s been really good with a mediocre QB.”

    Right, that’s worth remembering. And also, really with no other receiver on the team that the defense has to worry about at all.

    I’m pretty sure that if he stays healthy, we’re going to love what he does on the field for us next year. Whether the price we paid was too high? I guess, really, our season results (more so than the player available at #25) will answer that question.

  48. montanamike2 says:

    This is the weaker draft than usual, unlike the last few years you could have any one of 15 players go #1 and the dropoff from there isn’t so significant.

  49. Oh my good god!

    Not that anyone should bitch too much when Seattle lands such a playmaker–buy hey, Im Slavetothebusinessman, I can–and will–bitch about anything and everything!

    A first rounder and tons of money, when there already arent enough balls to go around for Tate, Rice, Miller, and Baldwin?! And for a tiny, oft-injured, disgruntled dude who has delusions of grandeur and who wants Fitzgerlad/Megatron money–and did I mention he’s tiny and injury prone?!

    If Im Tate, Rice, Miller and Baldwin–especially Baldwin–Im PISSED right about now.

    They wont be able to keep Tate when his contract runs out–unless they cut Rice. Damn! I love me some Golden Tate…Harvin isnt as tough, and doesnt make those athletic leaping catches that Tate makes look easy.

    I really feel bad for Doug Baldwin; dude isnt chopped liver, he’s really good and doesnt deserve to be benched/cut, which is what is happening to him. Lame!

    Never mind we are ridiculously thin at DT and DE, and needed that pick for those positions. Hell, we could use a RT or a RG or even a fast OLB with the money/picks Harvin will cost us…

    I WAS SO WRONG about Seattle and their interest level in Harvin! And HOW!

    Tate will have to work hard to keep Harvin from taking his starting SE position from him. Also, it will be good to have the ability to move our WR’s around–we can put Harvin in the slot–or Tate–or Baldwin (if we keep him) at any given time. Matchup nightmare–where do you put your fastest two CB’s–if we have Rice, Tate, and Harvin onfield, we can choose who to put in the slot and get the matchup we like.

    Still, I dont like the trade one bit, and I think its a waste. Perhaps this was to ensure he didnt end up in San Fran….I just hope it works out.

  50. Carlsonkid says:

    You gave up a #25 for Percy Harvin . We drafted Crap-enter at that slot ; would you rather have a Carpenter or a Harvin ( the 7th rounder wasn’t making anything more than a PS spot if he’s lucky anyway ) ?

    Odd they saw WR as a glaring need ; the team is a run-first offense and D-line was generally thought to be the big need . Makes me wonder if there isn’t something more up their sleeve at pass rusher ..

  51. For those worried that we gave up a 1st, look at the niners and aj jenkins last year. He didn’t play at all, and he was a late first round pick. He had Crabtree and Moss ahead of him, and I like Crabtree but at this point in his career Moss is not better than either Rice or Tate, so the chances of our own #25 pick breaking into the starting lineup is an iffy proposition at best.
    Pass catchers take a couple years to develop, and we are in our prime right now. The window is wide open RIGHT NOW, and we need to seize this opportunity and get that ring. We were so very close last year, and now with Harvin our offense is going to be scary good. He may just compensate for those moments when our D falters late in a game.
    BTW, he would look good in #10 or #11.

  52. seahawkNJ says:

    The draft is a total crap shoot. Harvin is a known commodity/star. Remember who was taken 4th overall the year that Harvin was taken 22nd.

  53. Drafting Carpenter at 25 was a mistake–a bad pick. They should have been able to get a stud player at 25, maybe not of Harvins caliber, but this team had bigger needs. Ruskell got Kelly Jennings about there–so what?! Has nothing to do with what we could have gotten there this year if they had done their homework.

    The 7th rounder means nothing, but the mid-round pick next year kind of hurts.

  54. Really, any # of guys could have gone #1 last year. How about 2 and only 2. Luck and RG3 – there was nobody else in the conversation Period!

    This signing doesn’t directly mean anyone is gone. We are well under the cap this year. What will determine if they are gone is can they out compete other guys at their positions and make sure they can contribute to the team.

    Many of us forget that the ability to play special teams plays a significant role in who gets kept behind the starters. Kearse, Martin, Butler, Baldwin, Obo will have have to prove they can play on ST if they want to stay on the team. I would think that Rice, Tate, and Harvin have the first 3 spots locked up – after that it’s who can contribute in different ways.

    Leon’s Punt return role might be lessoned with Harvin but I don’t see Harvin as a big KR, guy – of course I could definitely be wrong on that part. but if they think they have another guy to do KR and plan on putting Harvin on punts. Washington could be in Danger. I don’t see how McQuiston has anything to do with this signing.

  55. Seahawks2620 says:

    If we know one thing, it is that Pete/John have a plan. They know we have some glaring needs on the D-line. Lets wait and see what kind of magic they can work with the current salary cap. A lot of moves are about to go down this off-season.

  56. Yeah, they must have a couple DT/DE’s picked out they are sure they can get in the second thru fourth rounds that they feel can start and help out the pass rush. I guess. Otherwise this makes little sense.

    Ive been wanting to see them pass to set up the run rather than the reverse, and it seemed to work really well when they did it last year at times, and it looks like they will have to if they want to get their money out of Rice, Harvin, Miller, and Tate…thats a lot of balls need to be thrown to keep them a)happy and b)productive and worth the investment; ie, why buy a Truck unless you plan to haul stuff, or buy a racecar and not race it?! You get Rice, Harvin, Miller, and Tate on one team, you better be planning on slinging the rock!

  57. I don’t know why you guys continue to question Pete and John so much, they always make the right moves!

    Um -No they don’t – they have had some great ones but they have missed on a few as well. Actually they have missed on a bunch, but they have nailed a number as well.

    They have gotten great hits in the 3rd, 4th, 5th rounds but the top few picks have taken much longer to prove themselves.

  58. SaigonSun says:

    Absolutly the most idiotic move by PC/JS so far. Giving so much for a ” tiny-whiney” thing is absurd. Is it worth losing our team cohesion and chemistry for a dilusional and migrene prone (among other things)midget? What happened to tall and fast WRs we really need? What happened to always compete mantra?
    I always knew PC is full of crap. How can anyone in their right mind listen (and believe) Bevell? Bevell,Harvin and Rice got to the NFC Championship game with Farve at QB plus Peterson good OL and helluva D… and none of them were threatning to break the bank like Harvin does.

  59. surelyyoujest says:

    Remember one of PC’s key messages around offensive talent. Find touchdown makers. As much as the Hawks are flogged as a ‘running Team’, Pete isn’t one to grind out long drives. He’d rather quick strike. So if you can get a touchdown maker for a late first, then why not. I’d guess the contract will look very rich superficially, but that it will be frontloaded so that a year 3 departure will not create a lot of dead money.

    This is not like the Dion Branch deal. Deon was a good receiver when healthy (almost never). Harvin is a top talent, legitimate 1st rounder who is just coming into the prime years of his career.

    They wouldn’t have traded for him without having a plan as to how to use him, and we won’t know that plan for a while. But I’m sure Bevell is adding a few pages to the playbook. Like most deals, it will take time to determine whether this deal is a maker or breaker…..or neither. As an astute person above already mentioned, lots of folks were iffy on the whole Marshawn Lynch deal as well due to character concerns…..but I think that deal has proved to have been a smart move. Dion Branch…..not so much.

  60. Seahawks2620 says:

    Simply a rumor at this point, don’t know if it’s true at all. However just heard a producer on KJR who said we could be getting the Vikings second round pick in return as well.

  61. SaigonSun says:

    I don’t question Harvin’s ability to play football. I question his character. Mini paid him really good money to play ball and what they got in return is some flashes and a lot of DNPs due to migranes and the turf jumping at him and getting him hurt. This guy is not worth a first round compensation and being the highest paid player in Seahawks uniform. Fire Bevell before he destrys our team !
    I am so angry right now….

  62. Maybe he can do some reserve duty at DB and stop other teams from going 50 yards in 30 seconds?

  63. Trade haters, ask yourself this: Is Seattle better with Harvin than without him?

    This guy is unique on many levels. One is being impossible to bring down, which is a pretty good trait to bring to any football team:

    http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/percy-harvin-nasty-td-10-7-12.gif

  64. raymaines says:

    Up until right now I had forgotten about Dion Butler. I think it’s probably OK to continue to forget about him.

  65. @Saigon – What happened to always compete mantra?

    Could you please explain how trading for Harvin breaks this Mantra?

  66. pungentsound says:

    Whoo…….the Vikings best reciever nice. Sidney Rice also a Viking not a bad receiver either. How about a trade for Adrian Peterson? Harvin is a bit of a Prima Donna but maybe he will settle down with a shot a the title. It looks like a good move on the face of it.

  67. bbnate420 says:

    repost: “xcman, I don’t get why you and some others here keep repeating the fallacy that JS/PC haven’t done well in the 1st round? You could call ONE of the 4 first round picks they’ve had a bust so far. Okung and ET in 2010. Let’s see, home run and home run. Carp in 2011, bust thus far due to injury. Irvin, Jaye Howard, and Jeremy Lane in 2012. Yes, you can count Lane and Howard because those are who they drafted with the extra picks for moving from 12 to 15. Irvin led NFL rookies in sacks, and Lane was a solid contributor at least. 1st round picks are about a 50/50 proposition if you look back at history. Even if you exclude Lane and Howard, they are batting .750 right now.”

    Yes, of course JS/PC have made some mistakes. Name a FO that hasn’t. Actually, name a FO that has made less in the last 3+ years. As Ryan Divish said after the Mike Morse trade, I don’t know why people have the need to declare a winner the day of a trade. Everyone just keep your panties on. It’s a high risk, high reward move. We’ll see how it pans out. Personally, I’m more concerned with the contract he signs than the picks they gave up.

  68. bbnate420 says:

    As far as this being a run first team, this probably signals a dramatic change in that. I don’t think they’re going to turn into the Eagles under Andy Reid, but I would bet you that they are going to throw the ball more than 20 times a game in 2013. They have the ability to beat teams running or passing the ball with a healthy Harvin. Offense wins the majority of the time in the playoffs now. Not defense. Especially when you’re talking about the SB, because weather is not a factor. The game has changed.

    Duke, you are right about Harvin’s stats, but you also have to factor in his returning and running ability. He had 345 yards rushing in 2011. He is one of the best kick returners out there. He had 677 yards and 3 tds receiving in half a season in 2012. Plus, he’s had garbage to at best average QB play around him from 2010-2012.

  69. bbnate420 says:

    xcman, they’ve only had 2 second round picks thus far. I would say that both were successful, or decent at least. Tate did take a few years, but was a very good player in 2012. Most 2nd round picks aren’t stars right off the bat, especially WRs. Wagner was a star right off the bat. I don’t know what you’re talking about again.

  70. bbnate420 says:

    Oh, BTW, the Hawks were able to get the pick that they drafted Sherman with by trading out of the 2nd round in 2011. How did that work out?

  71. bbnate420 – Isn’t this year’s Super Bowl outside in New York? Then this will be the one year weather could be a factor.

  72. bbnate420 says:

    Lab333, I thought about that after posting it. I believe it is the 2014 Sb that is in New York. That still doesn’t really change my point though. 95+ % of SBs will be held where weather is not a significant factor.

  73. The Niners answered by acquiring Anquan Boldin from the Ravens for a SIXTH ROUND pick via Clayton @espn.

    Boy, that makes a 1rst, 7th, & mid rounder next year seem even steeper considering Boldin could have been had for a 6th.

    This would be a lot easier move to be in favor of if Harvin had a track record of staying healthy, was a leader in the locker room, & was a vertical threat that could stretch opposing defenses, but since he is NONE of these things, I have to say I am currently not impressed w/ this move.

  74. bbnate420 says:

    Yeah, Boldin would cost 6 mil though and isn’t at all the type of player that Harvin is. Harvin is also going into his year 25 season, not 33 like Boldin.

  75. edstang45 says:

    I was and am still a bit shocked when I heard the news this am….1st thought was whaaaaat!!! when I heard 1st rounder for Percy Harvin…Ist rounder ARRRgh!!!!! Then thought about it a bit calmed down a bit, and I gotta say, I trust these guys, PC and JS. They are working their plan not this blogs, thank goodness lol. I didn’t see a 1st round pick used on the offense, Most opinions have been Defensive pressure, and a game breaker at WR for this year. Well we just used our 1st round on a wr, so I’m trusting they didn’t see a DE,or DT at the 1st round pick. I gotta believe at the end of the day we will end up with our Pressure guy(s).. I do think that Schnieder is a genius at this time of year, so sit back and don’t jump the gun….This is probably the beginning of another great off season …just watch this guy work!! nGo Hawks

  76. I’d rather have Boldin, but then I’ve always been a fan of his. he is a tough dude and would have fit the Seahawks.

    No comment (yet) on Percy.

  77. userpat7248 says:

    Would be great to have a good reception team, but if he wants the highest pay then he had better be working hard running his butt off and not ba a token receiver because of an past injury. If that is the case then they need to get someone who will work for his money.

  78. jawpeace says:

    I got to say I am disappointed in the fact that I will no longer be reading Mock Drafts with much anticipation.

  79. bbnate420 – I had to look it up. The 2013-14 Super Bowl is February 2, 2014 at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford New Jersey. It is just too funny to think that Seattle might follow up its visit to Detroit with one to New Jersey! What luck! I would prefer one in Miami or somewhere warm but if we get there and win I won’t complain.

  80. bbnate420 says:

    Lab333, I won’t be there, so I guess it doesn’t necessarily matter to me. I definitely won’t complain about getting to the SB. I would rather they play in nice weather. As long as it’s not super windy or snowing, I don’t think it will affect the Hawks too much. Playing in rain may give them an edge, especially with RW’s large hands helping him to throw a wet ball.

  81. He seem`s SOFT!
    Watch out for those Hang nail`s.

  82. SkeleTony says:

    I just do not see Seattle being so stupid as to trade away Golden tate like some of you are saying. PC & JS tend to be very smart about their roster moves and grabbing Harvin is another great move I think but Tate is the best WR we have had for a LONG time (possible exception was Nate Burleson). I think Baldwin is probably gone though and I hope Leon Washington is gone as well. He was a great player but too old now.

    I do not want them to go after John Abraham either. He is too old and obviously has lost a good deal. Dwight Freeney might still have some gas left but I would rather they went after young guys.

  83. SkeleTony says:

    And Boldin would not have been such a great grab for us. We needed a speedy guy, not another tough guy. Boldin would be good on any team, don’t get me wrong, but he does not fit our immediate needs. We needed someone who can burn past defensive backs and, either this year or next, take over punt and kick return duties for Washington (who is like 30 or 31 now).

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