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Morning links: Wilson seeks redemption

Post by Eric Williams on Feb. 23, 2013 at 7:30 am with 25 Comments »
February 23, 2013 7:30 am
Washington's Marquess Wilson makes a reception as BYU's Daniel Sorensen tries to break up the pass during the first half of the NCAA college football game between the BYU Cougars and the Washington State Cougars at LaVell Edwards Stadium in Provo, Utah on Thursday, Aug. 30, 2012. (AP Photo/Spenser Heaps, Daily Herald)
Washington’s Marquess Wilson makes a reception as BYU’s Daniel Sorensen tries to break up the pass during the first half of the NCAA college football game between the BYU Cougars and the Washington State Cougars at LaVell Edwards Stadium in Provo, Utah on Thursday, Aug. 30, 2012. (AP Photo/Spenser Heaps, Daily Herald)

In my story today, considered a potential first-round selection at the beginning of the 2012 college season, former Washington State receiver Marquess Wilson is attempting to rebuild his draft stock after quitting the team and leveling allegations of abuse against first-year Cougars head coach Mike Leach and his coaching staff.

Leach and his staff were cleared of any abuse issues after investigations by the school and the Pac-12.

At 6-2 and 194, there’s no question about the speedy Wilson’s ability. He set Washington State’s single-season receptions record in 2011 with 82 catches for 1,388 yards and 12 touchdowns.

However, Wilson will have to clearly explain his side of the story to NFL personnel executives and coaches who wonder about his toughness, honesty and ability to handle adversity.

You can watch today’s combine drills live here. Offensive linemen, tight ends and kickers are up today.

Everybody in the media room is talking about Arkansas Pine-Bluff offensive tackle Terron Armstead, who ran an unofficial 40-yard time of 4.65 seconds this morning at 309 pounds. Watch it here.

Here’s my story on Pete Carroll’s press conference on Friday, where he says the Seahawks would like to keep Matt Flynn in the fold.

Danny O’Neil of The Seattle Times writes that Carroll will not necessarily seek a veteran pass rusher in free agency.

Bruce Feldman of CBS Sports provides some pretty frank comments from Carroll on the NCAA after a botched investigation of the University of Miami. Carroll also took issue with the way the NCAA handled the investigation into his former school, USC. Carroll: “It’s just not right, and it’s not OK for an NCAA to take down institutions of higher learning. That’s not how this should go. That should not be the target. There should be other ways to go about it. To do what they’ve done to Penn State and to do what they’ve done to other schools and what they’ve been doing to Miami after all of that mess with the NCAA’s investigation of its own investigation and it coming to light how the NCAA staff has operated, it begs for deeper investigation and a big-time investigation.”

Clare Farnsworth of writes that Carroll’s focus in the draft will be to continue to build on the depth that he and general John Schneider have created since taking over the team three years ago.

Seahawks receiver Doug Baldwin tweeted out the picture below in response to a question on Twitter asking why he missed the Green Bay game last year. Baldwin was questionable going into the contest because of a shoulder issue. Man, that’s nasty.

ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. breaks down the key questions for the combine that need to be answered. It’s a nice overview on the top storyline at this week’s combine. You must be an ESPN Insider to view this.

Morning links
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  1. Dukeshire says:

    Jesus… that is brutal.

    I’ve never seen a 300+ guy run that smoothly before. What a freak athlete.

  2. For those who wondered about Baldwins toughness…I want to STFU, but thats over the line. So I will just say, Take THAT!

    Still, he suffered from multiple injuries last year, and his durability is still a major concern–at least for me. But I dont think anyone can question his toughness. Man’s a stud…

    I hope he kicks butt this year and for 12 years to come, just like Bobby Engram, Mike Pritchard, and other Seahawk slot reciever’s in the past…

  3. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Baldwin is not only tough but very good too. I wouldn’t bet against him being Wilsons go to guy for years to come. Especially if he gets more practice time in the off season with Wilson.

  4. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Problem is solved!
    Draft Armstead and convert him to DE. lol.

  5. CDHawkFan says:

    We’re people questioning Doug’s toughness? I don’t remember that one.

  6. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    duke which 300 lb lineman were you referring to? i just turned it on

  7. Dukeshire says:

    Terron Armstead. There is a link above. It’s worth checking out.

    CDHawkFan – Yeah, a bit, earlier in the season.

  8. SandpointHawk says:

    Armstead was just getting his stride on, I would like to see him in the hundred. For that matter, I would like to see him running down the field and laying down blocks for Lynch or Wilson….

  9. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    Duke, just did a quick search and read on terron, seams a bit of a project but wow can he move. sounds like a perfect zone blocking guard .

  10. Wow. A blast from the past (Pritchard). Well done.

    I remember the injury concerns, but I don’t remember one person on this blog who ever questioned the toughness of Baldwin.

    Can we just draft Von Miller from the Broncos with our first round pick?

  11. Adam Schefter says Miles Austin might be a cap casualty. I’d love to see him paired up with Rice as starters and Tate moving over to the slot position. The Seahawks WR group would instantly go from average to above average.

  12. Thought Big Walt ran the 40 in the same time?

  13. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    pabs, watch austin all the time he is constantly nursing something usually a hammy. just not a huge fan, let’s face it dallas is pretty dysfunctional i am not sure bringing someone from the crazy house is a good choice. although if he bought in he would probably improve or receiving core thou again would you rather pay him big or hope baldwin bounces back. personally i like baldwin we know he buys into the program.

  14. Dukeshire says:

    Walt ran something like a 4.6 the year he came out. But the combine wasn’t televised until ’04 so we didn’t get to see it, and o linemen aren’t typically running a lot of 40s, so this was pretty cool to see.

    hawkfaninoklahoma – I’ve never seen him play but like you, I’m going to check out whatever clips I can find.

  15. That’s true about Austin – he’s had 2 years of hamstring problems and some team will probably overpay if the Cowboys release him.

  16. Dukeshire says:

    Austin is definitely intriguing but two things come to mind: 1 – Contract. He’ll want to get *paid*. 2 – I don’t see him displacing Tate at SE. Austin and Rice are both incredibly versatile where Tate doesn’t seem to be. He’s finding his groove at SE, and struggled at both flanker and in the slot, significantly. If they brought in Austin, I’d expect them to rotate and motion a ton, between he and Rice from the Z to the slot, and even playing Rice at SE in 2 WR sets. In any case, Baldwin would seem to be the odd man out but I’m not sure that’s a bad thing if Austin is healthy.

  17. raymaines says:

    O-Linemen don’t have any business running 40 yards. If they run that far their usually chasing somebody and that’s a bad thing. I’d be OK with a real fast 10 yard sprint.

  18. bbnate420 says:

    Walt REPORTEDLY ran around a 4.7 the year he came out. Nowhere as accurate most likely as the official 4.71 that Armstead ran. The combine now uses an average of hand times and partial mechanical times to determine the official 40 times. I have read a couple of places that nobody, not even Olympic sprinters, runs faster than a 4.4 when the 40 is completely mechanically timed.

    The 40 is completely overrated anyways, particularly if you are talking about O-lineman. I think the only time that teams even look at is the 10 yard split. Chane Warmack, pretty much universally rated as the top G and the top O-lineman according to Mayock, ran a 5.45.

  19. bbnate420 says:

    Wilson would definitely be worth the risk in the late 5th or later. CBS has him going in the 6-7th, though his performance at the combine and more importantly interviews will determine if he rises above that. He has the physical tools and production that the Hawks are looking for in a WR.

  20. bbnate–Wilson has talent. Im not worried about him quitting Leach, as I said. Leach got fired from Tech for a reason, and guys like him (Leach) dont change. I would be fine with Seattle taking him in the fifth–hell, I wouldnt mind in the fourth or even third. Though I think Seattle trades one of their fifths and one of their sevenths, and maybe even their third, to trade up in the first and/or second.

    I think at this point they will be targeting a player or two, and will trade up to ensure they get their man. You can bet they get a DT and a DE in their first three picks, and likely a WR/OLB/OG or OT.

  21. bbnate420 says:

    STTBM, I wouldn’t personally spend a 3rd on Wilson unless a there has been a huge run on WRs. There are a number of WRs with fairly similar skill sets and less questions than Wilson that should be available in the 2nd or 3rd. Quitting the team does worry me, though I trust JS/PC to vet him. I would snap him up in a second if he falls to our late 6th or early 7th pick regardless or whether or not they have already drafted a WR earlier. He’s just got too much talent to pass up at those spots and you give yourself a better chance of a WR panning out if you draft 2. Duh.

    I’m actually starting to hope that they draft DaRick Rodgers. Hopefully they could get him at their spot in the 3rd or could move up a little in the 3rd to get him. I know he has off-the-filed issues too, although failed drug tests are less worrisome than quitting to me. They are about the same height. Rodgers is 6’2 1/2″ and Wilson is 6’3″, but Rodgers has 23 pounds on him at 217. They both ran the same 40, 4.51 for Wilson and 4.52 for Rodgers. Rodgers was one of the top performers in the vert jump, broad jump, 3 cone drill, and 20 yard and 60 yard shuttles. His size and leaping ability just set him apart from Wilson to me. They both looked like pretty natural, hands catchers from what I saw of them in the drills.

  22. bbnate420 says:

    Despite JS/PC’s record here with the Hawks, I also think there’s a good chance that they trade up at least once. Part of me hopes that they do, but they have been so excellent at finding players later in the draft.

  23. bbnate–DaRick Rodgers is my favorite WR in the draft, after Cordarrelle Patterson, and Rodgers may be a steal. Patterson wont fall to us. Ideally, we could land Rodgers in the third but I wouldnt whine if we took him in the second. He’s that talented, and has really good size. I would be happy as hell if we landed both Rodgers and Wilson, but thats being greedy…

    Its really too bad we ended up with 10 picks this year, when the last few years it would have been awesome and helped us out a lot more. We already have a roster stocked with talent. Where we are lacking is in areas where its unlikely we find help after the third round–D-line we still have a shot of finding someone in the fourth I suppose. Our biggest holes are at DT, DE, OLB, and depth on O-line, secondary, and WR. THe depth should be possible, but we arent likely to find too much immediate help at DE or DT in the later rounds.

    WHich is why I think JS and PC trade up once or twice with a team like Jacksonville, for instance, that needs help all over and can put those later round picks to good use. Lets hope so, because I hated seeing great finds like our CB from last year, Adams, get snatched up by the hated Raiders and kept on their active roster. I think that kid could have been our starting nickel back this year, if we could have stashed him on the PS…

    THere isnt much chance for more than 4-5 guys to make the team, and the way JS and PC have been drafting, when we cut these guys teams are gonna snatch them up just to see what they can do, we wont be sneaking anyone onto the PS who is any good…

  24. bbnate420 says:

    Well, from what I hear the lines are supposed to be the 2 deepest positions in the draft, so I think the Hawks can get an impact DL in the 4th. Maybe not an immediate starter, but someone that contributes significantly. DL hasn’t been a strong suit as far as the draft for PC/JS the last few years, although they’ve only expended one high pick on it. Hopefully they come away with some winners this year.

  25. sluggo42 says:

    I’m not even going to study the draft and get all psycho about it this year. Last two years they went totally different, and I would rather just watch it and study the players the next day…

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