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Morning links: Hawks No. 6 in power rankings

Post by Eric Williams on Feb. 6, 2013 at 8:15 am with 66 Comments »
February 6, 2013 8:16 am
Who you calling invisible? (AP photo)
Who you calling invisible? (AP photo)

They’re back.

With the beginning of the NFL offseason, I KNOW some of you here were waiting with baited breath for the first NFL power rankings.

Well, wait no more. Elliott Harrison of has the Seahawks at No. 6 in his first 2013 power rankings. This year’s Super Bowl champions – The Baltimore Ravens – tops his list.

Here’s what Harrison has to say about the Seahawks.

“There are multiple question marks entering every offseason for every team, but in Seattle, the biggest has to be how this club will fare without defensive coordinator Gus Bradley, who left for the head job in Jacksonville. We can talk free agents, or Russell Wilson’s development. Still, much of 2013’s success will boil down to how Dan Quinn does in his new role as Bradley’s replacement. Luckily for the 12th Man, Quinn was in charge of the defensive line under Pete Carroll in 2010. He knows the personnel, and, more importantly, the drop-off should be nil. Should be.”

Not to be outdone by Harrison, Pete Prisco of CBS Sports also has his power rankings out. Prisco has Seattle at No. 7.

I talked with Bob Stelton and David Grosby of 710 ESPN Seattle about the Seahawks top five issues that should be addressed this offseason in this audio link.

Clare Farnsworth of takes a closer look at Russell Wilson’s record-setting, rookie performance.

Peter Schrager of Fox Sports writes that the evolution of the quarterback position with players like Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick is one of the five storylines to watch this offseason.

Jack Bechta of the National Football Post gives you the low down of February means for agents, players, coaches and general managers in the industry of the NFL.

Former Indianapolis head personnel man Bill Polian has an excellent breakdown for ESPN of the top free agent prospects on both sides of the ball, categorizing them as A, B and C players. It’s the best breakdown I’ve seen on free agency, but you also must be an ESPN Insider to view this. He ranks tight end Cameron Morrah and defensive end Jason Jones as “B” players. Defensive tackle Alan Branch doesn’t make the list.

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  1. sluggo42 says:

    I saw us at #4 somewhere yesterday

  2. sluggo42 says:

    Next year, #1 after two or three weeks

  3. sluggo42 says:

    Sweet, I’m on my way to a consecutive post record here eh?

  4. edstang45 says:

    7is okay but i got em as team to beat . Anything but SB Win would be dissapointing ….Draft is critical this year Go Hawks

  5. chrisj122 says:

    Hawks will be unstoppable next season if they can get a consistent pass rush.

    If we get that we will be S.B. CHAMPS!!!!

  6. Dukeshire says:

    Power rankings in February… Good god. How about this: can we get a pre-grade on a Seahawks mock draft that hasn’t come out yet? Seems to be where all these substanceless national media outlets are going anyway.

  7. Dukeshire says:

    Sluggo – Just make your own rankings and put them at #1 now. Why not?

  8. HawkfaninMT says:

    Thoughts On Ramses Barden? Gigantic guy that could be an awesome redzone threat… When given the chance he had a 9 recs for 130 yds type game… Is he too slow? Poor routes? Just stuck behind All Pro calibur WRs and should be a commodity worth looking into in the FA period?

    I saw him beat the MT Griz like a drum when he was in college and he was drafted in the 3rd I believe. If we aren’t going to chase Bowe or Wallace, How about the cheaper Barden?

  9. CDHawkFan says:

    Pre-grade on the Hawks mock draft = A+

    No one will second guess PC or JS for the next few years.

    #7 puts us back around 11 – 5 or maybe 12 – 4. I think it can be better than that if we can turn 3 out of 5 close loses into wins. Outside of injuries, there is no reason to think we will play worse than 11 – 5 in any aspect. We are learning, we will have some new JS/PC picks, we have/can win on the road, and have the experience of playing in close games. Could it be 14-2?

  10. Love the Barden suggestion…will he be available? He’s just the type of WR we need.

  11. Audible says:

    Two reasons why we’re going to win 14 games next year:

    1. Russell Wilson has 7 months to study film, master the playbook, and develop chemistry with our young receiving corps.

    2. PC and JS have yet another FA period and 12 friggin’ draft choices to fix three areas of need.

  12. IdahoHawk says:

    A big key for the hawks last year was staying healthy. Getting banged up in the post season hurt

  13. ChrisHolmes says:

    Considering where we were two years ago with Jackson under center, this has to be welcome news for every Seahawks fan.

    The nation saw Russell Wilson bring this team back against Atlanta. They saw this team clobber the 49ers at the end of the year. They saw them beat RGIII.

    This is what we’ve been waiting for.

    Sixth, Seventh, Fourth… put ‘em wherever you like in whatever rankings you want. But we know, if Russell stays healthy, they’re going to be a factor in the playoffs for years to come.

    I remember what it felt like for me, as a Seahawks fan, when it was clear that the Patriots had found their answer and QB and they were going to be factors in the post season for as long as Brady was upright. I remember how it felt when it was clear that the Colts had the same situation after Manning’s rookie season.

    This feels that way for us.

    It’s our turn.

  14. raymaines says:

    The lime green Kool-Ade volcano seems to have erupted.

    My big dream for the ’13 season would be to win all six games in the division, be undefeated at home, and win another two on the road. 13-3. First round bye & at least one home game. Piece of cake.

    Home games: N.O., T.B., Jacksonville, Tenn., Minn.

    Road games: Atlanta, Carolina, Houston, Indi., & NYG

  15. NWPoseidon says:

    Everyone is concerned with the pass rush right? And PCJS have a history of going in unique directions with finding a LEO right? Little known backup Clemons, 7th round picks, CFL players, all in search of an odd body type that is 6-3 6-4 weighs 240-260 pounds, runs a 4.6-7 40. What if that guy is closer to home than we realize? Are we overlooking a midround local guy? What about Travis Long, WSU? 6-4 247, converted linebacker/DE that is was 3 time all conference honors, team captain, tilt the field with great motor kind of player? He even switched to playing essentially the LEO this year and had 9 sacks. The LEO doesn’t need to be an elite athlete, as PC has pointed out several times that Clay Mathews was a scrawny walkon practice player that got in a game and made the position with his unheard of motor, not elite athleticism. Just a thought because I haven’t seen anyone bring up Travis Long yet but everyone brings up pass rusher and LEO.

  16. Dukeshire says:

    Seattle already has their right end of the “future” in Bruce Irvin. They need to find rush and run support both, for the left side, like Okafor.

  17. NWPoseidon says:

    That’s true Duke if we’re not worried about depth but after the loss of Clem aren’t we a little worried about LEO depth? A 5-7 round pick on a guy like Long could help with that depth couldn’t it?

  18. Soggybuc says:

    Duke, be sure to check back later as I’m almost done writing up my 2014 mock draft!

    While an end is a need for sure this D would be much better served by improving the middle rush with a more dominant player at the “3”. Jones was OK at times but 3 sacks in 16 games is underwhelming.

  19. Should Red Bryant start next year? Should they just go back to a more traditional 4-3 DL?

  20. boucherm says:

    Totally forgot about Cam Morrah. I think everyone wants an explosive TE to pair w/ Zach, maybe he can a) stay healthy and b) step up to be that guy. He has the physical tools, and has shown some flashes here. Reminds me of Walter Thurmond.

  21. edstang45 says:

    Duke local Camas wa. Shows Seahawks #1in powerpoll …..doesn’t list 2-32 cuz it just don’t matter

  22. montanamike2 says:

    It will be fun to see Wilson take it to Andrew Luck next year.

  23. I was pondering that too pabuwal. If the Hawks were to land someone like Johnson at DE who is good against the run and much better at bringing pressure then things would get interesting. A little competition wouldn’t hurt.

  24. Dukeshire says:

    NWPoseidon – Depth? Absolutely, and I do agree about that.

    Ed / Soggy – Nice. lol

  25. I don’t think you will see the hawks make a big splash in the FA market this year, BUT I thought that too and they tried to make a play for Manning

  26. ChrisHolmes says:

    You can say a better pass rushing DT is a need, but John Randall and Warren Sapp just don’t emerge from the draft every year. You’re much more likely to get sacks out of the Leo. I just don’t ever see this team getting a lot of sacks from their DT’s. It’s not even what they need from that position.

    Even *if* Clemons comes back next year and performs at the same level, I still believe DE is the biggest need. I just don’t think you can have enough pass rushers at that position. And if we could find someone who could play DE on 1st and 2nd down, who could play well against the run and still provide pressure when offenses elect to pass on those downs, that would be a huge weapon. Irving can then continue his learning/development as a 3rd down rush end.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Seattle draft 2 DE in April and bring a guy in through FA.

    And didn’t we just read last week that Quinn is more likely to blitz than Bradley? I can see rushing DL being the #1 focus of the FO this offseason.

  27. Jusjamn says:

    If PC/JS get 4 more starters this draft, it will be scary. Kinda cool to be the team everyone is trying to figure out how they draft so well.

    Fast forward to draft – Hawks about to announce selection, camera pans to Kiper who is shaking and has thumb up and says “best player I ever saw hold a football”! Just then Goodell says “we have a trade. Seattle Seahawks trade Matt Flynn and 25th pick to Jacksonville Jaguars for 2014 first round pick.”

  28. yankinta says:

    Pete Prisco says “Why do some think this ATL team will fade away?” I’m like DUH!! ATL had the easiest schedule last year. This year they have 15th toughest schedule, not to mention they have to play NFC West (toughest division in NFL).

    That dude is kind of slow!!

  29. Seahawks2620 says:

    As much as pass rush is a concern, another major need is going to be addressing the run defense. That is where Randy Starks comes in for me personally. The man is a bruiser and can rush the passer a bit as well. Yes, Red Bryant’s injury almost certainly contributed to the downward spiral that was our run D, however that was not the sole reason. The starters got tired and the guys filling in for them couldn’t come close to resembling the same sort of production. The depth wasn’t there, which we can all agree on. The hope is that Dan Quinn can work his magic on fellow Gator Howard, however that is no sure thing. Bringing in Randy Starks and pairing him up with Mebane forms a really fierce duo. You can then either re sign Branch to give either one a breather, or take a flyer on a guy like Chris Canty as rotational depth. Coming off of a knee injury plagued season, he won’t be asking for anything close to his 6 million per that he was making. Just a thought. So many different ways Pete can go about this.

  30. Seahawks2620 says:

    We need some guys who can collapse the interior of the pocket. Too often did we watch the ends get pressure for the QB to step up into a squeaky clean pocket to deliver a strike. Starks is older than Melton, but I feel like Starks is the more physical presence that we need. Get it done Pete. Sign Starks and draft Okafor. Those are the two moves I am hoping to see specifically.

  31. Dukeshire says:

    Sack totals aren’t this true issue here. Pressuring the QB and collapsing the pocket consistently, are. And with that, they absolutely need that from the 3-tech position.

    And to clarify: the Leo position is only the weak side end when they are in an under front. Seattle has gotten further and further away from that in their base sets each season. They still use it but it is not given as it was in ’10. With Quinn back, we may again see more, but understand not every DE on the weak side is playing the Leo position. In any case…

  32. Dukeshire says:

    Seahawks2620 – Didn’t mean to reiterate. I skipped straight to the comment after an above post.

  33. sluggo42 says:

    Move on from the Red Bryant experiment, and move him back inside. FA an end or draft one…

  34. sluggo42 says:

    I still thought they should have taken coples… But, that’s why I’m a rock and roll drummer, and not a coach/gm

  35. Seahawks2620 says:

    Duke- No worries. Glad you see it that way as well. Do you have any interest in Starks?

  36. I think our defensive line is awesome. I want any combination of punter, long snapper, and QB in the first 3 rounds.

  37. In 2013, I am expecting Red Bryant to play more like he did in 2011 (dominant) than he did in 2012 (injured foot). I do not this he is the problem with our D line, but his injury was likely limiting him last season. Just think back to what he looked like at his best. He’s a rare player.

  38. Speaking of D line depth… remember Michael Bennet? — the studly rookie FA inside/outside pass rusher that Tim Ruskell found in 2009, who was then signed off the waiver wire by Tampa?

    He’s a free agent. Last year he had 9 sacks and 3 forced fumbles. He could look good in Seahawks blue next year, expecially if they decide not to re-sign Jason Jones.

  39. happy hour in Minnesota already, Bobby? ; -)

  40. Regarding Red, the Seahawks never stand pat when there is an opportunity to upgrade. He’s shown great ability when healthy to stuff the run. What he hasn’t shown is anything in the way of rushing the passer, which our coach has transparently listed as our top area of need this off season. That is a shot across the bow for Big Red. No doubt that the FO is searching for an every down DE with pass rushing skills.

    I haven’t seen Starks play but if he’s going to help collapse that pocket then sign me up!

  41. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “I think our defensive line is awesome. I want any combination of punter, long snapper, and QB in the first 3 rounds.”

    Lol. Do we really need an awesome d-line now that we have a top five QB?
    Get the kid a legit consistent #1 WR and another good TE, along with some better Guard play and no one will give a rats A$$ if our top five defense improves.

    Didn’t our defense lead the NFL in points allowed? Good grief, give them a chance to grow up. Even if the FO does nothing they should improve.
    I’m sure we will continue to get better on both sides of the ball. I just can’t see any other team having a better upside than the Seahawks. Imo.

  42. Seahawks2620 says:

    Another very intriguing prospect is Ezekiel Ansah. He is surprisingly stout against the run, seeing as how he is so raw with his technique as a football player. Incredibly athletic. Not sure I want a guy with a lot of potential this year though. Would rather have a guy where we know what we will get out of him.

  43. Georgia – I take that back. We need to draft a QB with our first 4 picks and then take a long snapper with our next 2 picks. With the remaining picks, we need to take Kelly Jennings sized CBs with no upside.

  44. raymaines says:

    GHawk asks: “Do we really need an awesome d-line now that we have a top five QB? …”

    At first I thought you were making a joke and maybe you were, but this points out how many different ways the brain trust has to look at the situation and how flexible they have to be in free agency and the draft. Maybe you’ve really nailed it. Maybe JS&PC think they can score 50 points every week and the defense is good enough as is.

    This is going to be a seriously interesting off season. Go ‘Hawks.

  45. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BobbyK- Lol.

    How about best DeCastro type available, Followed by best Tony G available, followed by best Anquan Boldin available.
    And then send our next 5 first round picks to Houston for JJ Watts. The anti- Suh, and better too.

  46. GeorgiaHawk says:

    raymaines- No joke. We can score half of fifty per game and still win our division imo.
    Yes our defense had some lapses at crucial times last season, however they are very young at key positions, and it showed.
    I’m not one to push the panic button on our D just yet and say we need to overhaul this or that.
    I believe the FO has a plan that will further help both sides of the ball, but if nothing were to to happen I still think we will get better.
    I’ve never seen a Seahawk team that had so much going for them than this one.
    I can’t wait to see how this offseason goes.

  47. GeorgiaHawk says:

    BTW- Doesn’t Irvin resemble this guy a little? Kinda, sorta? Hopefully Irvin will find the right courage to take the next step this year.

  48. sluggo42 says:

    Meh – Red never gets any pass rush going. I think he would be a beast inside taking up two guys. And stopping the run. I just don’t think he is that good for the team on the edge. IMHO.

  49. “Kelly Jennings sized CBs” lol! those were the days.

    Okay guys, if we go after a receiving TE in free agency, which one?

    Jared Cook, Titans?
    Fred Davis, Redskins?
    Delanie Walker, 49ers?

  50. Sluggo, all due respect, but don’t you remember Red Bryant playing at DT his first two years? He sucked as a DT. Couldn’t keep low enough, got stood up and beaten bad. He was never good until they got him on the edge where he could stand up and use his length to his advantage. He’s a DE all the way. I think we should see how he looks with two healthy feet next year before we stick a fork in him as our starting LDE.

  51. bbnate420 says:

    Some real gems being posted tonight. ;-)

  52. Georgia, lol…

    Seriously the guy Bruce Irvin has always reminded me of is this guy:

    Thomas had 10 sacks as a rookie,but none over the season’s final 5 games. As his rookie season wore on, he wore down and got manhandled.

    His second year he came back stronger and physically ready for a 16 game season. That second season he didn’t wear down, and he had sacks in every game he played.

    What Bruce Irvin needs is a solid offseason of strength training and work on his technique. He’s still just a kid. We aint seen nothing yet.

  53. sluggo42 says:

    Jeez, I wrote up a five paragraph reason why Red isn’t the answer at de, and the dang thing ate it and says I’m posting too fast

  54. sluggo42 says:

    Anyways, in short form now, I predict red moves Inside and we go more DE .
    You heard it here first, as somebody else just recently said…
    Yes, Irvin grows, beefs up, does better…

  55. We have already lost guys on the DL and it is our weakest unit (IMO)

    We have to address the issue and be at LEAST as good as this year. – on the flip side.

    Offense now wins in the NFL – we can say what we want about the defenses but look at the scores in the play off games, EVERY winning team put up more points that the other defense usually allowed. even many of the losing teams beat the per game average.

    The rules favor the offense -

  56. Bryant will be fine. They do need to either have him lose 20 lbs, or find someone who can back him up. He’s a total beast when not playing through a fairly serious injury.

    But yeah, I would like to see him get some snaps at DT too. I find it hard to believe he cant learn to play that as well, as it was his position in college.

    Bennet would be great. I would love to have that guy back! I was so pissed at Ruskell for the whole two-kicker thing. If I remember correctly, thats why Bennet got cut. But perhaps Im mistaken…Anyway, pretty stupid to have cut the guy…didnt take a rocket scientist to guess he wouldnt pass through waivers…

    Ansah and Okafor both look like good bets IF they fall to us, or within our range of moving up. Both are intriguing.

    Personally, I wanted Coples last year. Im interested to see what he can do this year. And Chandler Jones, who so many besides myself championed here, turned out the best rookie play of all, IMO. He looks to be a complete player. If he hadnt lost a good chunk of the season to injury, he would be talked about a lot more.

  57. edstang45 says:

    I hope Stevos is correct, how nice would that be if he indeed improved to being close to Derrick Thomas!! Love to read all these post and opinions, still I believe PC and JS are all over it. When were we looking forward to next season with such high expectations?/ Been awhile, this is fun baby!! Go Hawks

  58. montanamike2 says:

    There were 3-4 moves that pissed me off, losing Bennet was one of them.
    What a bone headed move!

  59. Dukeshire says:

    Stevos is right: Red was an in effective interior lineman, just as he was when they moved him inside the handful of times they packaged him there this last season. Moreover, Quinn is the guy who originally moved him to DE, so it’s hard to imagine him moving him back now that he’s DC.

  60. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I hope Stevos is correct too. And I agree with xcman that the rules favor the offense.

    Yes our defense has a few issues, a little tweaking and some growing up to do, however those are nice challenges to have considering that it’s likely 25 or more other teams out there would probably trade defenses straight up for ours right now.

  61. SandpointHawk says:

    Yep that’s how I remember it also. Red was the future when drafted but he had a real leverage problem in the interior. We were labeling him as the next bust when Quinn moved him. DE was his last chance to stick with the team. I think some of us need to remember how banged up our D-Line played in the second half of the season, that said we need more quality depth on the D-Line next year…

  62. montanamike2 says:

    He was a bust on the inside, we need to keep him outside or let him go.

  63. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I’m not worried about Red, he was playing injured this year. I think his reps need to go down some though.

    Does anyone else wonder who’s going to be lining up to practice with Wilson before the season starts this year. It could make a big difference who becomes his go to guy moving forward.–-and-from-–-Russell-Wilson/0fcea7b5-3a6b-48bd-bd12-47b661a81a04

  64. GeorgiaHawk says:

    last year.

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