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Seahawks hire Matt Thomas as new VP of football

Post by Eric Williams on Jan. 25, 2013 at 12:33 pm with 53 Comments »
January 25, 2013 12:35 pm

The Seattle Seahawks announced this afternoon that they have hired Matt Thomas as Vice President of football Administration.

Thomas replaces John Idzik, recently named general manager of the N.Y. Jets.

“Matt is a well-respected salary cap expert and was recommended by many top-ranking NFL executives,” said Seahawks general manager John Schneider. “I am excited to welcome him to our football family.”

Thomas joins the Seahawks after spending the last three seasons with Cleveland in the same capacity. He began his NFL career in 1998 with Miami, spending 12 seasons with the Browns, including 2009 as the Dolphins vice president/general counsel and football administration.

Thomas is a graduate of the University of Denver, University of South Dakota School of Law and the New York University School of Law.

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  1. HawkfaninMT says:

    I hope he also took some Summer courses at the Institute for Massaging the Salary Cap. That is going to be some important skills to have in the coming years

  2. mindnbrad says:

    How anyone from the Cleveland Browns organization can be recommended is a bit of a conundrum for me… but in JS I trust.

  3. mindnbrad….. my thoughts exactly.

  4. He isn’t coming in to evaluate talent, draft players, coach players, etc., and he didn’t do any of that with Cleveland. He is just a numbers cruncher who is going to hopefully help the Hawks stay in a good spot re: the salary cap.

  5. bbnate420 says:

    Very good point, Coach81. He just tells them how moves will affect the salary cap, he doesn’t make the decisions. The Big Walrus was the one running the Browns into the toilet. Excuse me, keeping the Browns in the toilet.

  6. banosser says:

    ..and a graduate of (one of) my alma mater.. the Univ of South Dakota.. Go Yotes! Go Hawks!

    Welcome Matt!

  7. Southendzone says:

    How much time does it take to be a salary cap guy for an NFL franchise? Is it even a full time job? I would think you’d have work for a portion of the year, like FA period and the draft, but then things are pretty much set for a while.

    What I’m trying to say is I’m pretty sure I could do it with 1 week of training.

  8. SandpointHawk says:

    Please note: (Start Satire font….) University of South Dakota School of Law and the New York University School of Law. Also Dolphins vice president/general counsel….He is trained to bill by the minute and I’m sure he will be busy all the time…

    Awaiting Chuck E to tear me a new orifice anytime now…

  9. He does more than just watch the salary cap I’ll bet. Someone has to do the contracts…the fine print, etc, and negotiate with the other parties. Not trivial work to be sure.

  10. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Lol, bbnate420. So true though.

  11. Dukeshire says:

    Southendzone – Absolutely full time, and a ton of overtime as well. I can only imagine the algorithms the good ones use to project all the scenarios possible for the current season and seasons in the future.

  12. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Southendzone- I think you have a more realistic view on how the salary cap thing goes. Lol.

  13. montanamike2 says:

    If we are talking to the Jets about Revis I hope it has something to do with a Flynn trade.

  14. chuck_easton says:


    Let’s get it right. It’s six minute increments. Each increment is a tenth of an hour. We tell our clients if you start talking go right up to that six minute mark because you are getting charged anyway. Just don’t go to 6:01 or you just got charged for 12 minutes! :)

  15. Dukeshire says:

    Forget all that non-sense. Here’s an idea who’s time has come. I was #5318. What number will you be?

  16. Southendzone says:

    Ok, if he works out writing the contracts, that part I believe takes a good amount of time, and there’s where his law degree comes in.

    The part about figuring out cap space, how much you have, how much you’re going to need, scenarios, free agents, etc.. that part I can’t see taking up a 40 hour week for 52 weeks a year.

  17. Let’s not kid ourselves, all these cap guys use software to arrive at their numbers. Not a lot of their own brain work on the numbers themselves. More a matter of being able to use whatever software program they’re running to it’s fullest capacity. Plug in all the numbers, add in all the vairables, hit Enter, and in a few moments it will spit out data. The brains come into play in terms of ensuring all the rights numbers and variables get input and that they know and understand all the rules that govern those variables. Not unlike most tax accountants these days.

  18. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    montana, how about flynn and a 3rd for revis?

  19. Dukeshire says:

    Obviously the “cap guy” is involved in contracts. And yes, clearly gathering accurate information is the most important factor. Lol. Here’s a guy saddled with ensuring a team in the NFL stays within budget, so to speak, and we’re devaluing all that entails. I’m presuming those that are unable to appreciate how time consuming that must be have never worked in finance or with accountants.

  20. Duke–I agree, 99% of fans have no clue how valuable Idzik was to Seattle. The Jets couldnt have done better in my opinion. I have no idea if Idzik will be a good personnel man or not, but a) he cant be worse than the garbage FO they’ve had for time out of mind and b) He had to have learned SOMETHING hanging around Schneider and Carrol…(and he had to have learned what NOT to do from Mora and ol’ Timmay!).

    I think very few Sports Fans are math nerds, like KLM, you, and to an extent, me as well (I qualify as a nerd in multiple categories lol!).

  21. We agree Duke. I was just pointing out that none of these guys are terribly smart number crunchers as much as they are researchers and laptop jockeys. :)

  22. FleaFlicker says:

    Goodness knows I spend like 20 hours a week enjoying and/or torturing myself with this blog. Thinking about caps and salaries and such as a real job doesn’t seem like such a stretch.

  23. Dukeshire says:

    “laptop jockeys…” I’m going to use that. lol

  24. “Forget all that non-sense. Here’s an idea who’s time has come. I was #5318. What number will you be?”

    How about moving the Super Bowl to Saturday? Why does it have to be on Sunday? The wait is too long anyway.

  25. I just heard that Brandon Kaufman has been invited to the NFL combine. He is the WR from EWU who will skip his senior year. He is 6’5” and 215 lbs. He had 1,850 yards receiving this last season for a new Div. 1 FCS (formerly 1 AA) single season record. He would be a great lower round pick.

  26. bbnate420 says:

    This is from my phone, so sorry if it gets effed up.

    You want to talk about ridiculous mock drafts. already had the 2013 draft mocked through round 4 and the 2014 first round mocked!

  27. bbnate420 says:

    If you look at the B/R mock draft analysis, the 5 “experts” they list have the Hawks taking 6 different players. John Jenkins DT, Robert Woods WR, DJ Fluker OT, Terrance Williams WR, Barret Jones G/C, and Tyler Eifert TE. These picks are from Helmet Head, Rang, Matt Miller, WalterFootball, Drafttek, and Jon Dove respectively.

  28. princeaden says:

    So, no one like the idea of Flynn for Revis ? We would have 2 lockdown corners, have Browner slide to SS and Kam goes to Will. Sooner or later BB will be a SS /.k908hu8j=0

  29. montanamike2 says:

    hawkfaninoklahoma sorry i missed your post. Flynn and a 3rd would be sweet. Revis is a liability cap wise for Iznik and Flynn is a qb whereas they desperately need one and they can grab a 3rd or 4th as well. I also like the idea of Kam going to Will. I hope we fill some holes this offseason because the NFC West is rapidly improving.

  30. CDHawkFan says:

    How about J Lane for A Peterson or R Longwell for JJ Watt?

  31. montanamike2 says:

    I know it’s a pipe dream but one worth smoking, nobody could throw on us.

  32. montanamike2 says:

    John Idzik

  33. montanamike2 says:

    Good read SandpointHawk, that’s as good an endorsement as any, better than the talking heads.

  34. GeorgiaHawk says:

    One can dream. Sign Jennings and/or Wallace to this team. Imagine the passing game we would have. Then use most of the draft picks on the D side.

  35. GeorgiaHawk says:

    That was a good read SandpointHawk.
    I think I will watch the Pro Bowl for the first time in about 20 years just to see the interactions of our players with the other players.

    If Wilson isn’t one of the most liked and respected players in the NFL, he will soon be imo.

  36. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Would Carroll think outside the box, ( silly question ) and perhaps sign an aging pass rusher?

    The off season in Seahawks land is so much more fun now, ( for me ) with Carroll and crew.

  37. bbnate420 says:

    I like it, CDHawk. We might as well trade Giacomini for Joe Thomas and Braylon Edwards for Calvin Johnson while we’re at it

  38. bbnate420 says:

    Oh, wait!

  39. Ewalters7354 says:

    Browner is not gonna be a safety.He

  40. Ewalters7354 says:

    Sorry…he is not this washed up player.I know some don’t like him because they feel he is a weak link.But the guy is a hell of a corner. He would have to learn a totally new position.Kam is a pro bowl safety. Why mess that up? These pipedreams are hilarious lol

  41. Dukeshire says:

    RADEoN and I were discussing this last night: if Seattle somehow did acquire Revis I would like to see them use him as tbeir nickel back and cover the slot. Or at the very least bring Browner off the bench in nickel and then slide Revis inside and have Browner take his usual position at right corner. I think of how exposed Seattle was to interior passing and how the slot killed them last year, Revis would go a long way in stoppong that as a nickel.

  42. Hammajamma says:

    Has it been mentioned that Thomas left Cleveland with almost $50 million in cap space?

  43. bbnate420 says:

    Chillax, EWalters. I only brought up the BB move because someone else did in the previous thread or two. I like BB at RCB. I can’t really imagine Revis coming here. 99% it doesn’t happen in my totally “scientific” poll of the issue!

  44. seatowntp says:

    Exactly WHERE was Richard Sherman last night while Trent Williams was getting beat up in a bar fight?

  45. Ewalters7354 says:

    bbnate,I know we bump heads a lot, but that wasn’t directed towards your comment.Just reading the thread in general.

  46. CDHawkFan says:

    Actually I was thinking of trading a pack of smokes for C Johnson. Newport lights.

  47. The Kam to LB was dropped by Eric or someone a while back when it was stated that Seattle targeted Barron or someone at Safety which could have moved Kam to LB –

    We know darn well that the twins with do anything on the field to make the team better – Sign bigger CB’s, move Red outside, go small at Safety etc. That is the one thing that I do really like about PC. He will look at non traditional guys and find a way to allow them to be able to contribute. I have always got tired of how teams will pass on a guy because he is not traditional, size, weight, speed for a particular position. and unlike Ruskell who would go strictly for motor (since those Traditional numbers are based on SOME truth)

    IF you find the guy that has everything but that ONE thing (height, weight, speed, size, etc) that other teams are passing on and grab him – not all have panned out but many have, but we also have guys that fit that traditional mold to fill in the spots!!

  48. And if I was browner, if they tried bringing Revis in and paying him a buttload and benching me, I would demand a trade. Browner will be lucky at his age to get one decent contract out of the NFL, and right now he’s playing at least at the 10 mill per year level, yet making only 450k. Benching him would devalue him on the open market considerably, and there’s no way he puts up with that.

  49. And Kam to LB doesnt sound so stupid now, after his up-and-down year and not even sniffing the Pro Bowl. I wouldnt mind seeing Seattle target a faster guy who can still hit at SS. Kam has been a liability in coverage, even against TE’s.

    And Thomas, as fine a player as he is, dropped like 6 picks in his hands this season, and is constantly run over whenever Seattle was dumb enough to try him in run support. He also wasnt great covering WR’s in the slot. Thomas is pretty small, and even though I wanted us to draft him and really like him, he’s pretty much one-dimensional; he’s a deep cover FS. The only other thing he might become good at is bitzing the qb. As I said, he’s simply awful in run support and wasnt great in the slot.

    I love the Hawks, and I really like Kam and Thomas. But they need to stop thinking Thomas can do what Eric Berry can; he cant. He will always get run over by guys like AP and Gore, not to mention bigger backs. And the jury is still out on Kam as an every-down SS, IMO. And I know that JS and PC wont hesitate to move guys around or bench them if they get a shot at someone better.

    A lot of Hawk fans, like any teams fans, tend to overvalue their guys. I think this year Kam was very overrated and to some extent, Thomas as well, though with him I think it was the coaching staff that got a little too carried away with trying to make him into a guy who can play anywhere and do anything, when he just isnt big enough.

    Im not advocating bailing on guys cause they arent prototypical size, but you do have to be realistic.

  50. Back to listed topic – who actually makes that decision to hire this position? Is it JS as the GM or Pete as the President or is this a position that Allen may get involved in as it has to do with Money and contracts?

  51. Dukeshire says:

    I was a rare occation indeed this past season that Thomas was playing up. About the only times we saw it with any regularity was when the offense motioned away, and then he has to come up in cover 1. Regardless, I agree with the dropped picks, he needs improvement in that area, but as for tackling, he got tricked in the division round against Atl but aside from that, I cant remember that happening to him. He’s a much harder tackler than his size would indicate.

  52. Dukeshire says:

    Tricked? Lol. trucked rather. There was nothing tricky about that lick.

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