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Morning links: Looking for the next Browner

Post by Eric Williams on Dec. 6, 2012 at 7:27 am with 44 Comments »
December 6, 2012 9:40 am
Seattle Seahawks' Brandon Browner (39) takes off past Minnesota Vikings' Michael Jenkins after an interception late in the second half of an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 4, 2012, in Seattle. The Seahawks won 30-20. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

Our own Dave Boling of The News Tribune writes with Brandon Browner accepting the league’s four-game suspension, the Seattle Seahawks will count on young players like Walter Thurmond and Jeremy Lane to fill the void.

Boling: “Carroll’s theory on elevating the understudy has a different feel when the departed is out by volition and poor judgment rather than injury. But the team doesn’t look at it that way. Veteran fullback and team captain Mike Robinson said it doesn’t matter.

“Next man up,” he said. “That’s the great thing about this team, we stick together. We understand that. Pete does a great job of making us understand it. Everybody in the locker room knows about the situations, and I think guys are gonna step up.”

Here’s my story on Brandon Browner’s suspension.

I also provided a scouting report on Seattle’s depth at cornerback last week.

Matt Bowen of The National Football Post has an excellent break down on Seattle’s ability to run the zone read option against the Bears last week.

Jerry Brewer of The Seattle Times says the Brandon Browner suspension will be Pete Carroll’s toughest challenge during his tenure in Seattle. Brewer: “As a talented young team with a low margin for error, the Seahawks have struggled to separate from opponents all season. Nine of their 12 games have come down to the final possession. Every little thing matters to this team. That’s why you can’t dismiss the loss of Browner. That’s why you must fear what happens if Sherman is suspended, too.”

Art Thiel of writes that Browner’s suspension leaves Seattle vulnerable this weekend against Larry Fitzgerald, one of the best receivers in the league. Thiel: “It’s easy for a Seahawks fans to look at 4-8 Arizona’s eight straight losses and believe in a limp-along victory. But the Cardinals did beat the Seahawks in the season opener 20-16 and are finally getting back a veteran quarterback, John Skelton, who takes over for the near-helpless third-stringer, Ryan Lindley (10 of 31 passing against the New York Jets Sunday). And Fitzgerald is pretty much worth 10 points just standing there.”

Darren Urban of writes that John Skelton will return as Arizona’s starting quarterback this week. Skelton is 2-0 against Seattle as a starter.

Clare Farnsworth of has more on Walter Thurmond taking over the starting cornerback job with Browner out.

Doug Ketz of Scout Inc. is expecting a win for Seattle against Arizona in his game preview. You must be an ESPN Insider to view this. Kretz: “Two solid defenses should help to keep this a low-scoring affair. Seattle’s ability to generate an offense with a solid ground game mixed in with a big-play passing game should provide the difference.”

Brian Burke, writing for the New York Times Fifth Down Blog, gives Seattle a 77 percent win chance against Arizona.

Adam Caplan reports that the Seahawks worked out quarterback Josh Johnson and cornerback Roy Lewis this week.

San Francisco head coach Jim Harbaugh made a guest appearance on “Saved by the Bell”, which you can check out here. It’s about 15 minutes in. Harbaugh plays Screech’s cousin.

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  1. Palerydr says:

    I’ll be watching Jeremy Lane to see if he does well. I remember him from training camp always seeming to be around the ball and making plays.

  2. HawkfaninMT says:

    Just to cool everyone’s jets a little bit. These are the stats from the last time Thurmond lined up across from Larry Fitz in Seattle. Fitz went 3 for 30

  3. Dukeshire says:

    What I’ll be most interested to see is if Bradley will have Thurmond pressing or playing off-man. While he’s got the leverage to really press receivers, his frame if awfully slight so my impression is that he’ll be playing more off, but for me, that will be fun to watch.

  4. I’m 101 percent confident that Thurmond will step in, and make us forget all about Browner for the time being. Browner has good games, but he definitely can be exposed when he has to slow it down because he’s getting flagged for P.I.

    More importantly – Now that the offense (namely RW) has the shackles off, if the opposing offense scores, holy smokes, now this offense is able to score.

    2 long scoring drives in a row, in Chicago, from a rookie QB, who I doubted? Are you kidding me? I said “I’ll be an RW believer when he does it against a good defense, on the road.”, and my god, he did it, and he impressed even me, the biggest naysayer of him. I’m legit all about this dude. I’m still pumped from Sunday.

    TRusst in #3.

  5. seahawk44 says:

    TRusst in #3………….I like it!

  6. trout_hound says:

    That just warmed my heart a little.
    In Wilson we TRusst, indeed.
    Go Hawks!

  7. Ewalters7354 says:

    I also was a critique big time of RW early on.But after hearing he left notes on the guys lockers and performing well against the Lions, I was sold.This guy is too good to be true.


  8. pope411 says:

    Oh yeah, I’ll watch a 15 minute video to see Jim Harbaugh for sure….

  9. pabuwal says:

    If Thurmond is at the point he was before he got hurt last year, he’ll be every good as Browner.

  10. HawkfaninMT says:

    The Brewer link leads to the Zone read article

  11. Ewalters7354 says:

    Jeremy Lane kinda scares me.He has the skills but I can see him getting a bunch of P.I.and personal foul calls due to his feisty nature.I just see a Breno on defense. Hope he can keep calm.

  12. SaigonSun says:

    I appreciate RW and his work as much as anyone here…but, I can’t get of the fence yet. Maybe next year at this time if he continues to perform in this manner. I still remember Rick Mirrer in his rookie season being quite decent, and sucking ever after. Sorry to be Debbie downer…can’t help it. Go Seahawks!

  13. HawkfaninMT: Thanks. It’s been fixed.

  14. hawkdawg says:

    No comparison between Mirer’s first year and Wilson’s. Mirer was nowhwere near as much in command of that offense as Wilson is now.

  15. Didn’t Thurmond match up with Fitz in Seattle one year before he got hurt? (he being Thurmond)

  16. PugetHawk says:

    If Browner failed the test in late September then why did he wait so long to drop his appeal? Makes no sense to me. Seems like he could have sat out some games like Minnesota and the Jets at home instead of waiting til crunch time.

    I know the news is confidential and so we don’t know exactly what is going on but that seems weird.

  17. Dukeshire says:

    Mirer wasn’t ever near where Wilson is now. That said, we all hope Wilson continues to grow throughout his career and we aren’t now seeing his ceiling (not that I am suggesting we are).

  18. GeorgiaHawk says:
  19. PugetHawk says:

    Thurmond will be matched against Roberts or Mannigham which are matchups he can win. Might take a quarter or half to knock the rust off but by the time the second half rolls around he should be okay. Hopefully!

  20. HawkfaninMT says:

    @XCMAN: I posted a link to that games boxscore above

  21. SandpointHawk says:

    Puget, the NFL didn’t act on the test until two weeks ago. Ask them why they didn’t suspend our guys earlier in the year….

  22. PugetHawk says:

    Ahhh I didn’t know that Sandpoint. That seems like terrible timing. Not sure what the hold-up is.

  23. PugetHawk says:

    Georgia, seems like Schiano and maybe Goodell feel like punt coverage is safer for the players than kick-off coverage but they seem to be the same dangers in my opinion. Not sure if there is a higher percentage of injuries on punt coverage compared to kick-off coverage.

  24. Georgia – THANKS

    I would like to see the number of injuries on kick-offs – compared to punts – and other plays – What about on interceptions

  25. The bears game is on this week’s ‘Turning Point’. On NBC Sports Net.

  26. Thurmond may not look it, but he is a very physical player at the CB position. I’ve seen him just tee off on a few WR’s before, like he was playing safety. It is quite clear these days at Seahawks HQ; if you play CB for Pete Carroll, you will be willing and capable of making an impact through physical force. The scheme demands it. This is a secondary with current day athletes playing a style of defense akin to the Steelers and Raiders teams of the late ’70’s and early ’80’s.

    What Thurmond III needs to do is just step up and show his toughness. That’s been something of an issue with him. Hopefully he is fully healed now and ready to help keep this Seahawks team on a win streak.

  27. Toughness is different than injury prone IMO -

  28. The Turning Point spotlight on last week’s game was really good.
    They had some interesting sideline footage (from both teams) and they emphasized the fact that RW has been outperforming Luck & RG3.

    The Bears figured out RW’s run or pass hand signals at the line and they still couldn’t stop him.. (Thumbs up was a pass & thumbs down was a run)

  29. Dukeshire says:

    Thurmond’s not afraid to put his nose in there, I agree. I’ll just be interested to see what techniques they have him in.

  30. SandpointHawk says:

    Those are really sad signals…

  31. The signals were to the Oline to let them know the type of protection. The Bears sideline kept talking about how the rookie would give them takeaway opportunities. Guess again.

    The final drive in regulation was actually 107yds not 97. With Okungs penalty.

    Turning Point is on again tonight 9pm. Fri 830pm. Sat 1130am & 9pm.

  32. How about flapping motions for pass and scrape the dirt with your foot for run? In all seriousness, it really doesn’t matter what signals we use because they still can’t stop it.

  33. sluggo42 says:

    Lol, those weren’t the signals, that’s pretty funny.
    Not worried about WT3, unless he isn’t fully healed from his injury. But, I think he has been ready for a few weeks now, and I’m sure he is getting first string reps in practice, so if he is having any issues, PC will act accordingly.

    I’m hoping we win the possession time battle by 40 minutes to 20. That should minimize the problem.

    War hawks

    Oh and rad, I think you were the #2 r-dub detractor. Acib was/is #1

  34. Welcome aboard the bandwagon EWalters and RADEoN!
    The little guy ” still looked short”, but he is pretty fun to watch nonetheless.
    Now, if someone could just talk some sense into ACIB…

  35. diehardhawkfan says:

    Browner out, WT in…no prob. Who steps in if Sherman goes down?

  36. SandpointHawk says:

    Sluggo…I disagree, ACIB came in way late in the argument. My man Rad was right there on the draft day blogs…For the first time ever let me climb on a bandwagon and say……

    “War Hawks”

  37. montanamike2 says:

    Thanks for posting that up HawkfaninMT.
    This might be the time Irvin might come into his own. Kudos to Wilson for winning over his team. The first couple of games Wilson lost by a hair and that was being tossed to the lions,(so to speak). Now he has a team behind him and he’s at home with the 12th man. It’s so nice to have a franchise qb again and he’s one of the better ones.

  38. montanamike2 says:

    That’s the difference between a poster with a different opinion and a troll who only shows up when things are bad.

  39. “I still remember Rick Mirer in his rookie season being quite decent, and sucking ever after.”

    Let’s put a few numbers out there to put this in perspective – —

    Rick Mirer in 16 games: 56% completion rate, 2,833 yds, 12 tds, 17 picks,and a QB rating of 67.

    Russell Wilson in 12 games: 63%, 2,344, 19 & 8, and a 95.2 qb rating.

    I remember Mirer too, he was never ever good . . .

  40. “That’s the difference between a poster with a different opinion and a troll who only shows up when things are bad.”

    Exactly right.

  41. sluggo42 says:

    Ok, I’ll go with that..

  42. mojjonation says:

    I’ve been wondering since the first day it was announced that Sherman and Browner failed drug tests as to why it wook two months to let them know. The No Fun League seems to have it out for Seattle. First they wait two months to tell two South Alaska Seahawks that they failed drug tests 8 weeks prior (all while we are in the middle of the playoff race), now Goddell wants to do away with kickoffs (Leon Washington anyone?).

    Mirer absolutely sucked. He not only had a sophomore slump, he had a junior slump, a senior slump, a fifth year senior slump…..I haven’t looked it up, but wasn’t his last stop Chicago?

    As much as there is parity in the NFL, and divisional games are usually tough, stepping on Arizonas throat and choking off the air before halftime would be nice.

    Shaq is Superman. Calvin Johnson is Megatron. That St. Louis kicker is Legatron. Forget em all. We have….


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