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Carroll mum on possible suspensions; Browner’s agent proclaims his innocence

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 26, 2012 at 4:55 pm with 47 Comments »
November 26, 2012 5:13 pm

Asked about the possible, four-game suspension of cornerbacks Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner due to violating the NFL’s policy on performance-enhancing substances, Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll predictably did not comment on the issue.

The Seahawks could face up to a $500,000 fine for talking about player suspensions while they are still going through the process, so that’s why Carroll is not speaking on the issue at this time.

“Really we can’t comment on that at all,” Carroll said. “That is a situation between the players and the league. And we have no position to comment in any way about it.”

First reported by ESPN, both players are accused of taking Adderall, a prescription stimulant more commonly used to treat attention deficit hyper-activity disorder (ADHD).

Browner and Sherman claim they are innocent, and are appealing the suspension.

According to several reports, the league is attempting to schedule an appeal hearing for the two players sometime next week.

That makes sense, because Carroll said that he expects both players to play this week at Chicago.

“As of right now, I’m planning on those guys playing,” Carroll said.

Browner agent, Peter Schaffer, said his client is innocent.

“Brandon Browner has no knowledge of how an illegal substance could have gotten into his system,” Schaffer said. “He is an outstanding person, and a very good football player. And he takes tremendous care of his body, and is very careful what he puts into it.

“We’re exploring all avenues to try and figure out how any substance out of the ordinary would be in his system.”

Schaffer could not confirm when a hearing date for the appeal will be scheduled. However, he did say normal protocol in this circumstance is for the league to try and schedule a date 20 days after the notice is sent to the player that has tested positive.

Schaffer said that Browner received the notice from the league last week. Schaffer also did not rule out the possibility that his client’s appeal process could spill over into 2013.

But if Browner and Sherman are suspended, Carroll said his team has enough depth behind the two, Pro Bowl-caliber starters to keep things going on the back end of the defense.

“We have a very solid, young bunch of guys that have been with us a long time,” Carroll said. “And also Marcus (Trufant) has been there for a good while. Jeremy Lane has been doing things for us that we’re excited about, and he’s a very exciting football player.

(Byron) Maxwell has done a great job for us on special teams. And when he gets his chances, he does good stuff. So we’d expect him to be a contributor whenever we call on him, just like any other position. These guys are ready to go.”

Trufant and Walter Thurmond are listed behind Sherman and Browner on the depth chart. However, I think the likely scenario would be Trufant stating inside on nickel situations, with Thurmond playing one side, and Maxwell and Lane competing for the other spot.

Carroll was asked if his team is out of wiggle room at this point, sitting at 6-5.

“Well, nobody knows,” he said. “Everybody’s going to predict that this is how it’s going to be, but we don’t know that. I made a big point about that to our team. You don’t know how it’s going to go, but we do know that we have to take care of business. We don’t have many chances left. We have five games to get it done, and we can’t just lock into we’re going to win all of our games at home either – that ain’t going to be that easy.

“Right now it’s Chicago. And it’s a five-game push to see how far you can take it.”

Carroll said both linebacker Leroy Hill (ankle) and offensive lineman James Carpenter (leg) appear on schedule to practice on Wednesday.

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  1. IdahoHawk says:

    If we can’t generate a pass rush. It won’t matter who the db’s are. Why hasn’t somebody replaced tru? He gets burned every play it seems

  2. Seahawks22360 says:

    I’d be more concerned about our run D at this point. Or should I say the lack there of.

  3. Dukeshire says:

    Adderall. Should this be true, did they learn nothing from Moffitt last season? Whoever’s passing it around the lockerroom needs to go.

  4. Ewalters7354 says:

    Carroll shows his players he believes in them.And that’s what he’s doing with Marcus Screwfant.He has been a good player for the hawks in the past but gosh his time is up!Pete’s failure to bench underachieving players is really pissing me off.This guy isn’t gonna magically get it together smdh

  5. RDPoulsbo says:

    We know PC knew about this weeks ago. When Thurmond was activated off the PUP, they didn’t deactivate another DB so they’re sitting on an extra DB for 2 weeks now. I thought it was a little odd, but we know why now. That was in anticipation of the potential suspensions. If WT3 proves to be decent off his injury and the suspensions are overturned, Trufant will be off the roster.

  6. Ewalters7354 says:

    You would think with the league being so hard on the league being so hard on these drug, that these guys would actually read the ingredient label on the back.I mean, it’s common sense :-/

  7. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Ewalters7354- Since when did common sense prevail as a rule in the NFL? If it did there wouldn’t be the majority of rich players going broke not long after they retire. Sad but true.

  8. Ewalters7354 says:

    Georgia, I agree.There have been a bunch of players suspended today and all season.So you have a point.

  9. Ewalters7354 says:

    Georgia, in regards to your post yesterday,

    I also think it’s time for think it’s time for the Carroll to cut Wilson loose.He has shown that he’s able to carry the load, and by this being a QB driven league, it’s absolutely has to get done.There are still successful run first teams, but those teams are very talented up front and have coaches that know how to design successful runs.But this team isn’t at that stage right now.We are entirely too predictable as an offense.I say let RW sling it at least 25-30 times a game,and I believe good things will happen.

  10. This afternoon on ESPN radio, Dave Wyman was saying that he didn’t think it was time to panic if they both get suspended. Next guy just steps up.

  11. RW threw it 27 times on Sunday. It was just on the last series that we went real conservative. Time to move on, and look to Chicago, and how to beat them. If we can avoid the turnovers against them that have killed so many of their opponents, I think we can win this one.

    Hoping against hope that this Sherman/Browner thing works out in our favor. As I said before, I hate this story.

  12. CDHawkFan says:

    Seems like a lot of people are taking Adderall these days. Its not a mistake, it seems the guys know it gives you an advantage and I bet the coaches choose to look the other way. I mean they give it to kids, so it can’t be too bad for your long-term health.

    2 CB’s from the Bucs have been suspended for this, Talib and Eric Wright. Wright said he took Addreall in July, who knows if the timing is true, but both CB said they were innocent, blah, blah. I see this no different then roids in baseball, a couple of guys figure out that it gives you an advantage, then word spreads and everyone/most are using it, if you get caught you just deny it and say it was a mistake…BS.

    Interesting effects getting busted has on contracts now;

    Wright, who signed a five-year, $37.5 million contract when he joined the Bucs in March, will lose $1.706 million because of the suspension.

    The guaranteed money in Wright’s contract for next season is now null and void under the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. Wright is scheduled to make $7.75 million in base salary next season, which no longer is guaranteed. The $7.75 million had been guaranteed for skill and injury. So if the Buccaneers decide to part ways with Wright after this season, this four-game suspension will wind up costing him $9.45 million.

  13. There’s no doubt we win vs the Bears.
    This was just another hiccup on the schedule.
    They’ll fix the issues. Chill.

  14. I have a hard time believing that Sherman is dumb enough to knowingly take something that he will be tested for. I keep thinking about something I saw on the news about some energy drinks not being required to list their ingredients.

  15. This season is over. I am done watching us have epic fail after epic fail. IN all of the losses the games are close and winnable but when teas who are either tied with the Seahawks or down by a TD or FG our defense cannot stop anyone. IT is frustrating,pathetic and down right unacceptable. I am not saying Pete should go but friggin Bevell is worthless. Pay calling is absolutely stupid. and for 25 years I am fed up with the excuse that long road games that start early are hard to win. I call B.S. I am just plain sick of the mediocrity during road games. I will not be surprised one bit if they lose to the Bills on the road. It is insane how they can play decent and then here comes the other teams 2 minute drill and we can’t fight our way out of a wet paper bag. No pressure from the defense and the secondary all of a sudden turns into complete morons. I’ve just plain had it and a, sick of it. No playoffs for sure this year and lucky to go 7-9 AGAIN. I am over it. The hawks are a joke and deserve the ridicule and disrespect by the league. Dammit!!! I am pissed off. Pete pull your frickin head out, fire Bevell. And Browner and Sherman possibly using PED’s? If suspended I don’t see Seattle winning more than 1 game if lucky. What a disappointing tea, to watch decade after decade unable to win on the road. son of a bitch. I give up. Yeah, fair weather fan or whatever you wanna call me but I am done. See ya next year for another Positive Pete season of sub .500….

  16. *team x 2

  17. princeaden says:

    Has there ever been a time when these type of suspensions are lifted ?

  18. onetuffgrandma says:

    Here it comes… The SeaSquawks’ implosion. Right on schedule…

  19. montanamike2 says:

    I’m still going to be here.

  20. FairbanksDoug says:

    I am not sure what this says about the team. As far as I am concerned its still yet to be determined who did what , how the did it or if it even matters.
    I think this says a lot more about the fans then it does the team. I still think Browner and Sherman are the best there is. It’s not the Seahawks that are imploding, it’s just the fickle fan base.

  21. @princeaden Has there ever been a time when these type of suspensions are lifted ?

    Yes, but he played for the Giants

    Giants running back Andre Brown was also suspended for using Adderall, though the ruling was reversed on appeal. Sash can’t understand why there’s such a disparity between Brown’s case and his, though Sash realizes he didn’t follow proper protocol. Sash just claims he wasn’t properly informed of how to do so.

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/08/giants_tyler_sash_meeting_with.html

  22. I can’t understand why nobody on the East Coast doesn’t respect these Seahawks?

  23. Dukeshire says:

    Ha! Indeed.

  24. These Seahawks or any Seahawks team since the Chuck Knox days.

  25. Seahawks22360 says:

    Yea I’m sure they don’t respect us because of our players testing positive. C’mon man! We don’t get any respect because we live in SW Alaska. Not to mention that ESPN is an east coast network. I actually like it more when the “experts” pick against us. GO HAWKS!

  26. I know Browner was already in the NFL Substance Abuse Program because of a violation when he was with the Broncos.

    But does this mean this is Sherman’s second violation if he is already in line for a suspension?

    When people talk about all of the undiscovered Pro Bowlers Carroll has unearthed through the draft and FA, most of that revolves around these 2 CBs. Take these 2 away and that story becomes fairly thin.

  27. FairbanksDoug–This fan base is anything but fickle. I for one have been a fan, non-stop, since 1983–before I even understood what a field goal was. I sat through the Barren Behring years, and remained a fan. I made it through the horrors of Timmay! Ruskell’s reign of dysfunction, and I will make it through Carrol’s bumbling. But I cant watch this coaching staff make games that should be near-blowouts close, and then help us find a way to lose in the end. I have better things to do than watch the same old tired plays run in tight spots, to watch the offense finally move the ball and then just when they have it going, the playcalling reverts to three yards and a cloud of dust…never mind the mindless penalties, bonehead coaching decisions, and idiotic gameplans.

    And Sherman and Browner BOTH testing positive for Adderall kind of undermines their claim they didnt take it.

    Moffit was busted for it last year, they damn well knew not to take it. Like everyone else I hope they can win this appeal, but to think they were entirely innocent is a real stretch of logic.

  28. GeorgiaHawk says:

    I hope the Seahawk players aren’t playing for the respect of the East Coast.
    Because that never will happen unless they can win multiple SuperBowls in a dominating fashion.

    It’s like me trying to convince a SEC fan down here that a top PAC 12 team is relevant to the national championship picture. Not even if I bring up Carrolls dominant years at USC do I get respect from SEC fans with regards to the PAC 12.

    BTW- remember two years ago when Big Red went down with an injury and our run stopping imploded? What gives now? Is he injured, disinterested, or has our opponents finally figured him out?

  29. Ewalters7354 says:

    I won’t say the season is over.I just will never get my hopes high again.Bc every time I do, I get let down.This is MY team til death, but I’m just tired of being let down.It won’t surprise me if they beat the Bears, and even if they do I will not revert back to these expectations I had for this team at the beginning of the season.

    Browner and Sherm have really hurt this team with these suspensions and I find it very hard to believe that they will win the appeal.How do BOTH corners test positive for the same substance? Maybe they didn’t know what was in those supplements, but that’s all on them.Have to be more responsible.

  30. Ewalters7354 says:

    Bobby, imo I believe the hawks get no national respect because they haven’t won a title.One AFC championship game lost, one Super Bowl appearance, lost, and everything else has been either 1st or 2nd round playoff eliminations.Not to mention 4 straight losing season.I can’t be mad at em.

  31. Ewalters7354 says:

    Georgia, he was overpaid! Point, blank, period.He never was a dominant run stopper.Can’t remember exactly what game it was but a couple seasons ago, he got blew up by a FB.I believe his main value is his leadership.

  32. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    Ewalters, funny i remember a lot of games where Red dominated eating up 2 blockers and turning a play back at the pursuit setting up a lot of great stops.

  33. confucious says:

    DFloyd, That is about the same thing I was yellin’ at the flat screen sunday afternoon. That’s also the reason I try not to post win or lose right after the game. (Alright maybe after a win.) My contention is that your expectations are too high. There were those on this blog talking deep playoff run and I even read superbowl on a couple of occasions.You can’t take what you read so seriously. Creating a successful football team takes time. You couldn’t open a burger joint one year and expect to compete with McD’s and BK, too competitive. Why do you think you can entirely clean house the first year, (coaches, Gm, and players) and two years later be competing for a superbowl or deep playoff run. Yes, it’s possible. But in a league where the difference between 1 and 32 is 2 seconds and a field goal, not likely. This is and always has been a rebuilding job. There are still holes to fill and experience to be gained on this team. Maybe there are coaching tweaks to be made as some have mentioned. If you’re asking me, I would be willing to wait another season or possibly two before I push the eject button. Oh yeah. I’ll still be bitchin’ at the flat screen until that happens.

  34. gonefishin69690 says:

    I’m getting sick of the NFL (Numerous Fines Levied). I have the TV at work on Sportscenter everyday, and am tired of hearing more about fines, illegal hits, suspensions, PED’s, than hearing about the game or the players. Every week it’s the same thing. This player did this, that player did that, what the heck is happening to football?

  35. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Ewalters7354

    In regards to your regards of my post, I totally agree that the play calling has become very predictable and out of synch too, especially on the road. I just don’t like the idea of Bevell and Cable sharing the play calling. Does any other team in the NFL do it this way? Especially the successfull ones? I don’t know but it seems strange to me.

    The decision to not kick the 54 yard field goal or go for it on 4th and short wasn’t that big of a deal to me compared to all those three and outs to start the game because whoever was calling the plays felt the need to force feed the run come hell or high water.

    Wilson’s gotten better since the beginning of the year and it’s time to make him our first option, ( like all the other serious SuperBowl contenders do.) If he can’t handle it, bring in Flynn but don’t screw this season up by trying to force feed the run so much.

    I don’t care if his ints go up some so long as his tds do too. What’s more defeating to our defense, a team that can move up and down the field often scoring a few or more tds a game, and passing more on first down, however having a few more ints because of it.
    Or,
    a team that goes three and out, three and out, three and out, three and out. “But by God we are going to force feed the freaking run until it works”

    At least the defense can rest up more if the offense can sustain longer drives.
    Multiple three and outs are as bad as turnovers to me, and somtimes worse because our defense has got to start losing confidence in our offense at some point, plus they get little rest.

    I think in the long run, the run game will be more successful, ( yards per carry) if they play it off the pass or at least mix it up more.

    And that’s my biggest problem with this team right now.

    Sorry, didn’t mean to rant so much.

  36. gonefishin69690 says:

    The NFL soon may stand for “No Fans Left”

  37. Ewalters7354 says:

    Hawkfan, he did indeed have dominant games.But how often? Does he ever get a sack? Even if he is mainly run stuffer, playing DE in a 4-3 scheme, he has to get some kind of pressure.He is very simple to gameplan for, just run to his opposite side or run a toss and you’ll have him beat.He doesn’t scare anyone and games I watch he often gets out leveraged and man handled because he comes off the snap too higj.And a dominant run stuffer doesn’t deserve that much money.He’s no H’aloti Nagta(sp)

  38. great Field Gulls article. thanks for posting.

    it’s true – like everything in life, it’s all about expectations. we need to keep tweaking on defense, and again, as always it seesm, need to work on the O-line, but RW is becoming the story of this season, and of this team’s future. check his numbers again, they are getting really good.

    10 wins is still a legit possibility. chins up.

  39. Ewalters7354 says:

    Georgia, agreed.

  40. Ewalters7354 says:

    pdway, I agree.These past 3 games he has been as consistent as any player in the league.Oh God how I hope it’s not a tease.Bc once again, I don’t wanna get my hopes high lol :-P

  41. HeinieHunter says:

    Another road loss was bad enough, what with all the penalties yet again. Now Browner & Sherman and the drug thing. Not the two brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Enough with the “I’m innocent” B.S. This is an 8-8 team with an integrity problem!

  42. The problem with the Dont Panic Because We Are Losing Games by Only One Score crowd is that they are ignoring the obvious: we are losing those close games NOT because we lack talented players, not because the players are making huge mental errors or are being out-muscled or beaten with speed, but because we are being thoroughly OUTCOACHED in every single facet.

    The lack of discipline and sloppy play is directly attributed to poor coaching.

    Any decent staff of NFL-caliber coaches could get this team to 10-6. Ours will be damned lucky to get us there. And thats truly sad.

    The mistakes our coaches make are the same damned ones, over and over. That isnt going to change–Carrol, Bevell, and Cable will continue to be too conservative with gameplanning and playcalling, and continue to try to win every game by 3 points. The problem with a strategy of winning by 3 points is that it leaves very little margin for error. And stuff happens, even if you a) make a good playcall and b) the players execute it perfectly, sometimes freak things happen, and sometimes you just get beat. We have a team talented enough to win by more more than 3 points, most of the time. If our coaches werent scared of their own shadow.

    Coaches are supposed to be what gets a talented team over the hump and into Championship competition. Especially nowadays, with the parity that exists in the NFL, player talent-wise. But Carrol still seems to think this is College Football, where you can build a roster that is top to bottom more talented than anyone else, then run a conservative gameplan and let the players use thier athleticism to win a tight game.

    That shit doesnt cut it in the NFL. And it never will. By all means, get the ball in your playmakers hands; but use some trickery, some scheming, some smarts; dont just dump the ball behind the line of scrimmage to Tate or Lynch all damned day. That aint fooling anyone.

    There will never be a team as over-talented as the Niners in the 80’s and early 90’s because Jed York can no longer launder Mob Money and pour tons of it into the roster–we have a salary cap. Neither Carrol nor anyone else can build a roster so far ahead of the competition. And his scheme will not work consistently without a roster than is better than anyone else’s.

  43. bbnate420 says:

    Let the rats flee the “sinking ship.” I’ll still be here.

  44. bbnate–Getting fed up with mediocre to bad coaching after 30 years of putting up with mostly bs hardly makes anyone a rat. Ive simply decided Carrol and company cant hack it in the NFL, and am sick and tired of watching the most talented Seahawks team since 2005 be mismanaged and ruined by incompetent coaching.

    You still mad about JEramy Stevens, your pal? Looks like Boling had the same take I did, or did you miss his article?

  45. mojjonation says:

    Browner and Sherman will be playing this weekend. It’s already been stated that their appeals will be heard next week which gets them off the hook against Chicago.

    Whoever said that we could beat Chicago without Browner and Sherman, you have to be on something. While Browner and Sherman can take two guys out of an offense, it hasn’t been the outside guys who have beat us. It’s been the underneath and intermediate routes where LB’s and nickel guys (cough cough Trufant) get burned play after play.

    Our inconsistent pass rush, and our newfound love of getting gashed in the run game are the undoing of this team. Minnesota was a home game. New Englad was a home game. Brady throws for four bills, and AP chews us up to the tune of nearly 200 yards. So saying the defense needs to step it up on the road is kind of off target. New England wrote the book on how to get passing yardage and San Fran gave the blueprint for rushing. Now you have to have the hands and horses to make either of those go, so while the plans have been made, they can’t always be executed. If Forte is out, and Bush gets on track Sunday, this can be another loss. While Marshall will probably be a non factor, everyone else is going to get their fair share of targets.

  46. mojo–While Browner and Sherman are playing, the underneath routes with Tru covering and the delayed passes to RB’s and TE’s against our LB’s are other teams bread and butter, thats true. But once our two top corners are out, not only will the underneath stuff be every bit as open, but the outside routes will open up too. Its not like the D will get better with poorer play on the outside, and poorer play is what we’re gonna get.

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