Seahawks Insider

Morning links: Flynn has no regrets

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 23, 2012 at 8:32 am with 26 Comments »
November 23, 2012 8:32 am
Seattle Seahawks quarterback Matt Flynn (15) looks to pass as Denver Broncos' Von Miller (58) blocks Seahawks' Breno Giacomini, right, in the first half of an NFL football preseason game on Saturday, Aug. 18, 2012, in Denver. (AP Photo/Joe Mahoney)

In my story today, with the Seahawks traveling to Miami to face the Dolphins on Sunday, backup quarterback Matt Flynn discussed making the decision between the two teams during free agency this past offseason.

And even though he lost the competition for the starting job to Russell Wilson, Flynn says he still does not have second thoughts about his decision.

“I try to have the motto of living life with no regrets,” Flynn said. “I wouldn’t take anything back. I think I look back at the things I looked at, and the personal things I decided on, and I think I wouldn’t take anything back. I don’t have any regrets about it, but it was a tough decision, for sure.”

Danny O’Neil of The Seattle Times writes about the Seahawks increased emphasis on using the zone read option to take advantage of Russell Wilson’s running ability. O’Neil: “For years, people have dismissed the viability of certain college quarterbacks. Now, NFL teams have begun to not just use the quarterback’s legs, but they’re taking pages out of college playbooks as well. There’s one member of Seattle’s offense who sees that as a sign that NFL teams are playing catch-up. ‘I’ve always thought the league was about eight to 10 years behind college in that,’ fullback Michael Robinson said.”

Clare Farnsworth of writes that safety Earl Thomas has plenty to be thankful for on Thanksgiving, including infant daughter Kaleigh Rose, born on Sept. 24, just before kickoff of the team’s Monday night game before Green Bay.

Michael Lev of The Orange County Register writes that like Matt Barkley at USC, Pete Carroll has found another passing prodigy in Russell Wilson. Lev notes that the 5-11 Wilson has just six batted balls down in 253 passing attempts. The five quarterbacks with the most batted passes entering Week 12 are all 6-2 or taller: Andy Dalton (6-2) leads the league with 14. Josh Freeman (6-6) and Brandon Weeden (6-3) are tied at second with 12.

Art Thiel, writing for Crosscut, wonders if Wilson can help Seattle run the table and win the final six games of the season.

Steve Rudman of writes believes that the national media has mostly ignored Wilson in favor of Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III, even though his numbers compare favorably to those higher drafted quarterbacks.

ESPN’s Mike Sando likes the Seahawks over the Dolphins, 24-20.

Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald writes that containing Wilson will be a challenge for Miami’s defense.

Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports writes that the NFL should eliminate PAT kicks. I agree with him. Cole suggests, “The rule can simply be amended to say that a team can opt for one point automatically or choose to go for two, getting only six points for a touchdown if a two-point attempt fails.”–direct-snap–nfl-should-eliminate-pat-kicks-212235294.html

The New York Post’s cover on the Jets’ 49-19 loss to New England says it all.

Morning links
Leave a comment Comments → 26
  1. Dukeshire says:

    Eric, Pure conjecture on your part here, but would you expect Flynn to look to get out of his contract or ask for a trade at season’s end? Or do you think he’s cool in a backup role next year, then look elsewhere? (Or, is he cool working behind Wilson to the point he’d look to re-up when his deal is over?) Again, just your gut feeling. Thanks.

  2. I haven’t heard any rumblings that the Seahawks are looking to move Flynn.

    I think Flynn obviously wants to play, but understands he needs to show that he can be a good teammate and handle an adverse situation in the right way in order for him to have another opportunity elsewhere.

    Several teams potentially will be looking for new quarterbacks in 2013 – Minnesota, San Diego, Arizona, Tennessee, Philadelphia, Oakland, the New York Jets, Cleveland, Kansas City and Jacksonville.

    Flynn is due to make $5.25 million in base salary in 2013, and $2 million of that already is guaranteed. He’s signed through 2014 ($6.25 million base salary), so teams could be willing to take on that contract for a bridge quarterback that could start for a couple years while they try and find a franchise quarterback of the future.

    Now, what do you think Seattle could receive in a trade as compensation? A third rounder? A fourth? And should Seattle even consider making a move? Has Russell Wilson proved he’s the long-term answer? And if you’re Pete Carroll and John Schneider, what’s wrong with having a good, backup quarterback if you believe that this a team could make a deep playoff run in the near future?

  3. mindnbrad says:

    I’m with Duke, and my curiosity is about how FLYNN feels about being a backup…short term and possibly long term (not how the Hawks or other teams think about him.)

    If I put myself in his shoes..what’s happened would NOT be easy to stomach..

  4. Russell Wilson needs at least another year to prove himself; even if he goes on to lead this team into the playoffs. He might need more than that. The best test though for most hot rookies that break onto the NFL scene and make a name for themselves in year one, is year two. In year two the rest of the league now has a more extensive scouting report on you; they have a more extensive catalog of your tendencies to peruse.

    Likewise, Matt Flynn needs to show up next season and take Pete at his word when he talks about “competition”. His trade value at this point, and even going into next year can’t be all that high, especially when the market didn’t think to really even offer him that much. His first camp and preseason with Seattle were fairly forgettable. He needs to hit T.C. next year with a much different outlook, and hopefully a stronger throwing elbow.

  5. The thing I’ve also often wondered about, is how Flynn is used in practices…. Does he get a reasonable number of snaps? Is he clearly ready to sub in a game if Wilson were to get dinged? Not much info on this aspect….

  6. Millons of dollars in salary. Working out for a living in a professional athletic facility with the best equipment, trainers, docs, and food. Jetted around the country on the company’s money to live like a celebrity.

    … and, little chance that concussions and spinal injuries will turn him into a crippled vegetable by the time he’s 50, which is what happens to too many old pros who played every day.

    If Matt Flynn knows he has no reason to complain, good for him. I’d take that deal.

  7. Dukeshire says:

    Eric – Thanks and good questions. My questions stem from what may be going through Flynn’s head, not so much from what the Seahawks want out of the position. That is, in a “perfect” world Flynn is a professional and “good soldier” and happily fills his role as backup to Wilson. The position is stronger with him here. However, regardless how Wilson plays moving forward, he’s solidified himself as the starter, especially if they make the playoffs this year. It would seem that only injury will get Flynn under center. If he’s not happy with that, it’s not unreasonable to think he’d want out at season’s end. If that’s turns out to be the case, does Seattle retain an unhappy player that potentially would be something of a disruption or do they eliminate that and get what they can, and move on? That’s really the crux of my curiosity. I’m happy to hear you haven’t heard any “rumblings”. To me, that means he’s sucking it up regardless how he feels.

  8. Dukeshire says:

    Stevos – In a vacuum, you’re right. But he’s a professional athlete and it’s rare that someone who genuinely believes in themselves is satisfied in a support role, without ever knowing for sure if they can or cannot be the man. I would presume that Flynn has this inner belief. Otherwise, why on earth leave Green Bay?

  9. Carlsonkid says:

    On eliminating PAT kicks ; much like moving the kickoffs up , I understand the reasoning from a safety perspective but I think the league needs to be careful about tampering with the product too awfully much also .. fans enjoy things like blocked PAT’s and returns for touchdowns .

    There’s certainly a balance that needs to be struck between safety and keeping it “football” . It’d be interesting to see stats concerning injured players from PAT’s . It can’t be many I wouldn’t think .

  10. Ewalters7354 says:

    You could see early on Flynn was not happy.I believe he knows what he’s capable of and just wanted a fair shot.To me it seems he’s just learned to except it and be ready when his name is called.

  11. Ewalters7354 says:

    Yea the league is starting to slowly fall apart.All the excitement in the game is being touched and tweaked in some kind of way.Sad…

  12. Dukeshire: I believe he’s not content with being a backup, but from my understanding has not been a distraction, and is just biding his time and seeing how the organization will handle the situation, similar to Tarvaris Jackson during training camp. Obviously I cannot report the particulars of what is happening during practice, but I can say that Flynn gets enough snaps so he’s ready to play in a game.

  13. confucious says:

    I have always thought that Flynn didn’t believe there was a “competition” in the first place. His body language during the pre-season and post game interviews gave me that impression. To be fair, I don’t know the guy except through the facemask on fox. That may just be how he is. But if it’s me going into an employment competition I think I’m showing a little more urgency. He looked either really lost and in a fog or like there wasn’t a question he was the starter and was just waiting for the season to begin. No urgency. Hope I’m wrong. But at any rate, if he’s here for the paycheck then he isn’t going anywhere for a couple years. If he was here to start a legacy, he’s looking for another team.

  14. confucious says:

    Go Huskies!

  15. Dukeshire says:

    Thanks E.

  16. @confucious

    Pretty much my exact feelings and read on Flynn as far as his body language during interviews, during camp and the like. It felt very much to me like in his mind it had already been decided as far as who the QB of this team was (him), and that he was just going through the motions of it. Not sure what it all means to Flynn, or about his future yet but I have an idea we’ll have a clearer picture of that come next Summer.

  17. Wilson has shown, in my opinion, that he’s going to be good moving forward (Matt Hasselbeck in his prime good, IMO, and I love that!). The only thing I hate about him is that he’s a rookie. That’s it. I don’t even mind the lack of height thing anymore with what he’s shown us.

    However, if he has to miss any time this year due to injury… this team won’t skip a beat, IMO.

    We’re one of the few teams in the league that won’t be held hostage to suck if they lose their starting QB and that makes me feel good.

  18. montanamike2 says:

    He can win a few games for us if Wilson goes down, we’ll have to change our game so he’s not asked to throw the longball, but he’s valuable. I hope this is a wake up call to step it up, even if we trade him he has to look good. I think pete and JS are going to turn this into something good. It’s not my money or i might feel differently. Totally agree with thought the job would be given to him and so he lacked urgency.

  19. Flynn’s best pass is the deep lob. It’s one of his 2 main weapons in his arsenal.

  20. pabs – I have found myself agreeing with you quite a bit lately. Not everything… but a majority of it.

  21. Dukeshire says:

    Well, he and Wilson have something in common then because that’s his best pass too.

  22. Based on the small sample size I think Flynn would do quite well in a Holmgren stle WCO. He needs a good offensive line around him and quick progression reads. I’m not convinced that our current offense plays to his strengths in terms of the vertical passing game.

  23. sherminator says:

    I’m extremely satisfied with having Matt Flynn as a backup. Especially with the concussion rules, quality depth cannot be overemphasized. Flynn replacing Wilson as QB may require game plan adjustments, but most of us believe we can win with Flynn. Not all teams can believe that about their backup QB’s. And I believe by now that Flynn has certainly come to the realization that backup QB may all that he will ever be in the NFL, and that is still a real accomplishment to be proud of.

    I would be happy to see the PAT kick be eliminated. The two point conversion is much more exciting.

  24. Duke, I wasn’t saying I think he’ll be content to be a backup. I was just making a personal comment. But Flynn is a competitor and despite the sweet deal he has, I’m sure he wants to start games more than anything in the world. If he spends his whole career as a backup, that would be a bit sad.

    Still, remember that a lot of great stories in the NFL have happened when that “forgotten player” finally gets to come off the bench due to a starter’s injury. Flynn will get his day.

  25. And at some point, Wilson will be injured; its life in the NFL. When that happens, we better hope we have Flynn as a backup.

    Flynn has the potential to be a good NFL qb, especially in a WCO, like Holmy’s or GB’s. Heck, even Bevell can run one, if he has a qb best suited for that.

    But Cassel had potential, as did Kolb, Kafka, etc. Its only speculation that he WILL do well. No one knows for sure. Personally, I think as long as he has a decent team around him, he’ll be fine–but without that, he will struggle and fail. He’s too slow to work with a poor O-line, and also needs big WR’s and a good run game.

    I dont see Seattle ever trading with Minny again (and only if we fleece those F%$#!), and I dont see them trading Flynn to any other NFC team either. KC and Oakland are two interesting spots, esp since McKenzie is running the show in Oakland now. Wouldnt THAT be a trip, trading with the Raiders?! Dead Oakland and Hawk fans will be rolling in the grave!

  26. raymaines says:

    Last Sept. I wanted the best QB to win the starting job, but I really hoped and thought it would be Flynn. The ONLY thing I don’t like about RW is that he is such a boring interview. It’s hard to go from Matt Hasselbeck’s charm and wit to RW’s never ending spew of clichés.

We welcome comments. Please keep them civil, short and to the point. ALL CAPS, spam, obscene, profane, abusive and off topic comments will be deleted. Repeat offenders will be blocked. Thanks for taking part and abiding by these simple rules.

JavaScript is required to post comments.

Follow the comments on this post with RSS 2.0