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Morning links: 5 keys for Hawks vs. Vikings

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 4, 2012 at 8:05 am with 52 Comments »
November 4, 2012 8:08 am
Seattle Seahawks' Red Bryant comes out of the tunnel before the first half of an NFL football game against the Dallas Cowboys, Sunday, Sept. 16, 2012, in Seattle. (AP Photo/John Froschauer)

Good morning peeps. Bring your rain gear if you’re headed to the game, as there’s a 70 percent chance of the wet stuff today.

Great weather to hand the ball to Marshawn Lynch and let him go to work.

Here’s five keys for the Seahawks as they look to end a two-game losing streak.

Get off the field on third down: Seattle’s struggles on third down defensively have been the most talked about thing all week. I think we’ll see a simple solution today – more man coverage and blitz, forcing the issue against a young quarterback like Christian Ponder, and making anybody but Percy Harvin beat you. Seattle defensive coordinator Gus Bradley needs more physical play and less thinking by his defense on third down.

Score a touchdown on defense: The Seahawks’ ability to create turnovers was a point of emphasis at the beginning of the season, but so far the defense has not lived up to the hype, with just 11 turnovers this season (T14). Chicago’s defense has scored six touchdowns this season, an NFL record through seven games. Seattle does not have a touchdown on defense this season (Jeron Johnson scored on a blocked punt against Dallas). That stat needs to change today.

No training wheels for Russell: Seattle head coach Pete Carroll took the restraints off of the offense and let Russell Wilson throw the ball around last week in Detroit, with good results. Let’s hope offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell is allowed to do the same thing again today. Seattle’s ability to effectively throw the ball creates balance offensively and puts added strain on the defense.

Big day for Sid the Kid: Receiver Sidney Rice is looking forward to playing against his former team in Minnesota, so get him involved in the offense early with some easy throws on the perimeter. I like the matchup of Rice against Minnesota rookie cornerback Josh Robinson if the Vikings chose not to have Antoine Winfield on Rice the entire day.

Stop Adrian Peterson: Certainly having a game plan to contain Harvin is important, with his ability to create explosive plays on the perimeter of the defense, but stopping running back Adrian Peterson has to be Seattle’s focal point today. If Peterson gets going, then that opens up the play action pass for Ponder and the possibility of some big strikes down the field. As Seattle did against Dallas running back DeMarco Murray earlier this year, the Seahawks need to maintain their run fits and get 11 guys to the ball.

Here’s my advance for today’s game. Marshawn Lynch will see a mirror image of his running style when he watches Minnesota’s Adrian Peterson attack Seattle’s defense today.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that the Seahawks are looking forward to kicking off the second half of the season by playing in front of the hometown crowd.

Jerry Brewer of the Seattle Times expects the Seahawks to emerge as a playoff contender in the second half of the season.

Dan Wiederer of the Minneapolis Star Tribune believes that Russell Wilson is showing he’s not too short to be an NFL QB.

More Star Tribune: They like the Seahawks, 23-16.

Ben Goessling of the St. Paul Pioneer-Press offers five keys for the Vikings to beating Seattle on the road.

Check out the latest Real Robinson Report below.

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  1. pabuwal says:

    I also expect the Seahawks to finish 6-2 but this is predicated on 2 things –

    1). The passing offense continuing its upward trajectory of the past few weeks.
    2). The defense which I think has been fairly average (bad against great offenses and great against bad offenses) has to at least continue to be great against bad offenses which they face many of in the second half of the season. This alone will make them appear “above average.”

    Today is a good measuring stick. I think the Vikings Offense and Christian Ponder are terrible. If they allow anything over 13 points against this team at home, it will call into question my point number 2.

    The offense should be able to generate at least 24 points against this team as well. Anything less than 20 and it will call into question my point number 1.

    Carroll’s Seahawks tenure has been split into 2 Acts so far:
    1). A below average team that lost by double digits and won by small margins (2010 to mid 2011, 9-15 record).
    2). An average team that played every team close, beat good teams and lost to bad teams (mid 2011 to now, 9-7 record).

    Today has to be the game that propels the team into act 3 which is:
    3). A good to great team that blows out bad to average teams and wins/loses squeakers against great teams.

    I rarely ever make a Seahawks prediction, but I think they win this 27-10 to propel them into Act 3 of Carroll’s Seahawks tenure and a 6-2 finish for the season. If they lose this game, I don’t know who they can beat for the rest of the year.

  2. Sherman says “my brother” wayyy too much. Is it a joke or does he really talk like that? (not “trolling”, just asking.)

    I wouldn’t worry about Seattle losing another game this season, they have the best quarterback in the NFL, and anyone who doesn’t believe that is a hater.

    John Moffit is hilarious, and I would hang out with him. The things he says are along the line of stuff I say. Maybe my new favorite player.


  3. Dukeshire says:

    I agree with Eric and his first key: Man on third. Bring a blitz. And as he mentioned, got to contain Harvin. They will line him up in the backfield, in the slot, and outside the numbers. He is a matchup nightmare for a team like Seattle that really only has one truly fast player in the secondary: Thomas. Thomas’ discipline will be tested this afternoon.

    All in all, no idea why I feel this way, but I see a Seattle blowout coming. I think they will beat down the Vikings today. Let’s see…

  4. Carlsonkid says:

    Need #12 to being it again today ; welcome to Seattle , Vikings !

    … breaking out the rain gear and off I go . GO HAWKS !

  5. Dukeshire says:

    “Eat anything you want but have a good sprit about yourself when you do it. Walk in sprit, god will take care of it. He’ll take care of your digestion path.” Hahaha!

  6. Dukeshire says:


  7. Dukeshire says:

    If Minnesota’s offense and Ponder are “terrible” I’d hate to read your candid assessment of Seattle and Wilson.

  8. DFloydd says:

    RADE: I thought the same about Sherman but if you go back and watch old Rob reports from training camp and beyond it is just Sherm being a weirdo. Robinson even calls him on it a few times. I think it is just him “hamming” it up for the camera as Mike Rob once told him that he never says the “My Brotha” thing until Mike turns on the camera. Quite funny the first few times I saw him and Winston Guy using it but it is slowly getting old for me….still some funny dudes in that locker room. The dance off between Okung and Sherman was pretty entertaining. Okung has some moves for being such a HUGE fella. :)

  9. pabuwal says:

    Seattle’s offense and Wilson have been bad but getting much better every week – which is exactly what I expected from this offense.

    Ponder and Minnesota’s offense are heading to where they belong after the early season mirage.

    To me, it’s never about where a team or young QB’s has been but where they are going.

  10. The offense (R. Wilson), really isn’t getting better each week. They’re playing weaker defenses, then getting smothered by good defenses on the road. He’s putting up good numbers against weak defenses, at home, and blowing games against mediocre better defenses on the road.

    I would be right on board with the “growing and getting better” part of it, had he not laid a big time egg @SF. SF all but clinched the division.

  11. pabuwal says:

    The Lions had a top 10 Defense.

    And by the way, no one really passes consistently against the 49ers Defense, even Eli Manning. They are the true definition of elite.

  12. Boy oh boy do we ever need this game. Big playoff implacations imo. It’s going to take a 10-6 record, maybe even 11-5 to get a wildcard and we’re already behind on the tie-breakers. We need this one really, really bad.

  13. FleaFlicker says:

    Eight days from now, we’ll have a pretty decent handle on our chances of playing in January. While 4-4 ain’t spectacular, it’s not awful. We’re sitting one game outside of a wildcard, just behind Cards and Packers. With Vikings holding the #6 seed. A win today would be huge.

    If we can hit four of Eric’s five keys today, I’ll be feeling pretty good. One other things I’ll be watching for is our ability to make up for the absence of Carp. We’re all assuming Marshawn will have another big day. I’m bullish on our chances, but this is the League and there are never guarantees.

  14. Ewalters7354 says:

    The offense has not been getting better every week.Don’t you guys know that the hawks played the niners and failed to score a td.Now they play decent against Detroit and now they’re better? Not buying it.Do it today against a pretty good vikes D and I may start believing.

  15. FleaFlicker says:

    Correction: Vikings hold #5, Pack holds #6. Having a head to head advantage on both (fingers crossed) of these teams is a huge bonus for us.

  16. FleaFlicker says:

    Wearing my Seahawks T-Shirt, Sweatshirt, and Windbreaker to the game today. I figure three pieces of team gear will be the difference maker. Forget all that other analysis stuff.

  17. pabuwal, they were also missing 2 key starting players in their secondary. Don’t be foolish.

  18. HeinieHunter says:

    Today Seattle needs to connect all the dots. Offense, defense, and special teams. They have flirted with looking like a playoff team this season but now they need to serve notice that they are for real. RW needs to step up, D needs to bring the heat on 3rd down, and special teams need to dominate field position stats. I want a blowout! Snagging close wins is good but we look like a 50-50 team. We need to send a message. We win at home!

  19. Dukeshire says:

    Seattle is 0-3 in the division. They’re going to need at least 10 wins to get the wildcard. 9-7 will not got it done.

  20. FleaFlicker says:

    Duke, doesn’t conference and head-to-head matter more than division unless facing a division opponent? Just asking…the playoff formulas are a bit arcane. But I figure if somebody understands them, it’s you.

  21. Flea:

    that’s everything you’d ever need to know.

  22. Dukeshire says:

    They do, but it’s impossible to imagine a scenario where winning only 9 games gets them any tie breakers. Not so long as Ariz continues to keep pace. I think Skavage is right on, they must win today if they are to have any hope of a playoff birth. They have a long, hard road ahead of them.

  23. SandpointHawk says:

    Eric, don’t forget to have your IT dept reset the blog clock, please….

  24. SandpointHawk says:

    Holy crap that was cool….as I type so shall it be.

    OK the Seahawks win today….

  25. FleaFlicker says:

    Arizona is on the down slope. Don’t see them finishing above .500. Just my opinion.

  26. Seahawks22360 says:

    I think the 12th man could care less if RADEoN and EWalters believes. Might as well just keep your negativity(and that’s all you have) to yourselves. I swear you want us to lose just so you guys have something to complain about.

  27. rramstad says:


    Given the way things are going it would require a colossal melt down of biblical proportions for a Seahawks 9-7 team to make it in the NFC playoffs, as that would almost certainly be a wild card and there are a lot of teams with decent records right now, and a lot of them play each other i.e. someone has to win those games, they’ll help someone. A) A whole bunch of teams would have to tank. B) Seahawks would have to have tie breakers on everyone. Probably not going to happen.

    Conversely I think 10-6 would almost certainly get it done, especially if we can beat the Vikings today, as that’s one of the teams that is in the hunt for the wild card. Tiebreakers over Cowboys, Vikings and Packers are all super helpful, as would one over the Bears (one can dream).

  28. FleaFlicker says:

    RADEoN is right more often than he’s wrong. Not the most uplifting blogger on here, but I respect his opinion.

  29. Thank you, FleaFlicker.

    Let me ask you guys a question:

    Why do you want to make the playoffs so bad? This team can barely score on the road. The defense is being asked way too much when this team travels to really account for the lack of offensive production. They get a playoff berth, get blown out @NYG, and it’s over. The team really has a 0 percent chance of winning the super bowl, so I’m already in “evaluate talent” mode, and hope there’s good draft picks available next year between 14-18.

  30. Seahawks22360 says:

    I rest my case RADEoN. You’re already throwing in the towel on this team. You ARE NOT a real fan. This blog and the seahawk nation are better off without people like you polluting it with you’re negativity.

  31. Dukeshire says:

    The whole point of playing these games as I see it, is to make the playoffs then see what happens. Otherwise, what the hell are we doing here? lol. As for the draft, Schneider / Carroll will find talent regardless where they select. They’ve proven that to us.

  32. Dukeshire says:

    Seahawks22360 – Simply because he has a different perspective than you doesn’t mean he’s not a “real fan”.

  33. Seahawks22360 says:

    Great point Duke. All it takes is getting Horst the right time(i.e. the Giants last year)

  34. Seahawks22360 says:

    It’s not the fact that he has a different point of view, it’s the simple fact that he never has anything positive to say about this team. That, to me, is not a real fan.

  35. SandpointHawk says:

    From Merriam Webster: an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator.

    I don’t see a thing about positive in that definition, RADEoN and Ewalters both are enthusiastic devotees of the Seahawks. Because you don’t agree with their point of view makes them no less of fans. Although my point of view is different from theirs this year on some matters, they are still my friends and just as big of a fan as you or I.

    For the record I hope we make the Superbowl this year and win it going away. That’s just the way I am.

  36. Well, you’re not very bright then, with all due respect (which is very little, if any).

    What do you want me to say? Wow, this offense is awesome. Among the best in the league. They can run the ball like it’s no big thing, and when they pass, it’s horrific, but god damn, this offense is the best in the NFL, and I’d be shocked if they don’t clinch a super bowl berth this week. That outing Russell Wilson had @SF was AWESOME! If he could play like that against every team, Seattle would go 16-0 every season. 31st in the NFL in passing yards, 30th in the NFL in total yards, and 27th in the league in points scored per game. Damn, that is really good. I’m really excited about that!

    6 points scored against the niners? That’s almost 7 points! We could pretend RW rushed a touchdown in, and missed the extra point, since this team deserves it. It does so much in the red zone, and converts all of the third downs. RW was 9/23 122 yds 1 int @SF. How did Seattle not leave there with a win? It’s the defenses fault. They allowed the niners awesome receivers and decent quarterback to score 13 points. That’s a really good job, though, but maybe just a regular good job since they still cost Seattle the game.

  37. Thanks SandPoint. I guess if a sports writer is critical of the team they’re writing for, that makes them not a real sportswriter, by his circumstances. I tried making a pretty positive post. Hope it helps.

  38. grizindabox24 says:

    after watching Cincinnati play several times this season, I think what people saw from Andy Dalton last season is as good as it will get for him. He just does not seem to have a lot of room for improvement.

  39. Ewalters7354 says:

    2620, dude you are hilarious! You obviously don’t read any of my post to say I never say anything positive about this team.I have my opinion just like you have yours.Not on here to please you bro.I talk hawks, good and bad.

  40. Seahawks22360 says:

    I’m not saying your statements are false I’m saying that as a “Hawks fan” how can you always bag on them? Anyways, I’m going to focus on the Hawks tearing apart the Vikings, while you sit around and get upset that we will be winning.

  41. Ewalters7354 says:

    Ok, for now on I’m going to post all positive about this team.I’ll start by saying numbers mean nothing, and it’s all about wins.This team has no flaws and the record isn’t a true indicator of how great this team is.No flaws by any means.New Orleans, here comes the HAWKS!

  42. grizindabox24 says:

    I am looking for improvement in third down defense and red zone offense. Also, for a well as the Hawks run the ball, they only have 3 rushing touchdowns on the season.

  43. Sarcasm positivity.

    There are about 60 players, can you guys not think of anything pleasant to say about any one of them?

  44. Sarcasm does not equal positivity. I guess it didn’t like my symbols.

  45. SandpointHawk says:

    Queue Sarcasm Font: The players are on the field warming up, the 12th man is in the parking lot warming up and the bloggers are getting there game face on also. I’m so glad it was such a quiet peaceful week on the blog…

  46. Sandpoint, where did you see me play?

  47. Ewalters7354 says:

    I bag the performance of the team whether offense or defense.Coaching staff also included.You guys want me to post looking as if this team is flawless.It’s crazy how a person critiques this team and they get bashed for doing it.The hawks are not a perfect team, neither are any others.So as a fan, if I see things I think are hindering the team, I won’t be pleased.

  48. SandpointHawk says:

    Spokane, Coeur d’Alene and Ritzville several times. Seems like some other festivals also. I’ve been a member of the Inland Empire Blues Society for years so it’s was just a matter of who was playing on the nights I could get away. You know Truck Mills, Neighbor John Kelly and Carl Rey? close friends of mine, one and all. My wife has sang with all three of them, among others.

  49. Ewalters7354 says:

    blue, you’re right bro.I have nothing good to say about this team.I hate them and they suck.I’m nothing more than a troll.The hawks are gonna win 42-10 and losers like me will get what they deserve.Go figure.

  50. Dukeshire says:

    Can everyone wait until after the game to continue these ridiculous posts? The post game thread is a haven for all this nonsense. Thank you.

  51. grizindabox24 says:

    Hope the Hawks score more rushing touchdowns from inside the 10 today than they have all season.

  52. Griz–would that be ONE?!!

    Sorry, I know negativity is banned and punishable by death…

    Wow, the personal attacks and calling into question people’s fandom are getting out of hand…Get a grip people, all of us are Fans, we just have different opinions.

    At 4-4, this team has earned fans on both sides of the half-full/half-empty glass equation, dont you think?!

    They are who we thought they were–a frustratingly ineptly coached team with fabulous personnel talent, missing a few key pieces and a real NFL Line coach and OC..what did you expect from that funky stew?! A championship?! Bwaaahahahahaha!

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