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Morning links: Ex-Viking Rice faces former team

Post by Eric Williams on Nov. 2, 2012 at 7:12 am with 27 Comments »
November 2, 2012 7:12 am
Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Sidney Rice (18) runs between San Francisco 49ers safety Dashon Goldson (38) cornerback Tarell Brown (25) during the second quarter of an NFL football game in San Francisco, Thursday, Oct. 18, 2012. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

In my story today, after an injury-plagued 2011 season, the Seattle Seahawks finally are getting the Sidney Rice they expected after inking him to a five-year, $41 million deal last year. Rice leads the team with 28 receptions for 367 yards and three touchdowns.

He’ll face his former team in Minnesota on Sunday. Rice played his first four seasons for the Vikings, including his Pro Bowl year in 2009, when he led the Vikings with 83 receptions for 1,312 yards and eight touchdowns during Minnesota’s run to the NFC Championship Game.

“I definitely feel like I have a slight edge on everybody else, going with those guys for so many years,” Rice said. “Antoine Winfield, probably their best corner, is a guy I played against my entire four years there. He’s really smart and talented, and probably one of the toughest small guys I’ve ever seen in my life.

“So on our offensive side as receivers we have to be prepared for him.”

Judd Zulgad of ESPN 1500 Twin Cities writes that Rice is looking forward to facing his former team.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that after eight games, Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson is not acting or feeling like a rookie. “I don’t feel like that all,” Wilson said. “I get some jokes here and there, obviously, in the locker room and stuff. But mentally, I don’t feel like that at all. I think more than anything, I’m dedicated to this offense and dedicated to this football team. So I think everybody is equal. We’re just trying to win. That’s our focus all the time, is competing and playing at a high level.”

Danny O’Neil of The Seattle Times writes that Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch are throwbacks in a time where most team are featuring two-back systems. O’Neil: “Adrian Peterson and Marshawn Lynch are an endangered species in today’s NFL, workhorses who don’t shy away from contact. In fact, they’re more likely to initiate it. Peterson and Lynch aren’t part of a running back committee so much as running backs their teams have committed to.”

ESPN’s Mike Sando notes that Russell Wilson has struggled in third quarters this season.

Doug Kretz of Scouts Inc. predicts a 24-17 win for Seattle. You must be an ESPN Insider to view this: Kretz: “The Vikings’ defensive front appears more concerned about rushing the passer than it does stopping the run. The Vikings have given up an average of 156 yards a game on the ground the last three games.”

Lindsay Jones of USA Today talks with Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman. The outspoken cornerback says his team is just looking for respect. “The game is a game,” Sherman said. “At the end of the day, they have to go out there and beat me. I have tremendous confidence in my teammates and what we can do on the field, and what we can do to our opponents.”

John McMullen of the Sports Network previews the game here.

Joel Corry of the National Football Post takes an early look at what some of the franchise tag numbers could be for 2013.

Bill Barnwell of Grantland thinks the Seahawks can grab a wild card berth if they take care of business in the second half of the season. Barnwell: “Their schedule going forward is actually pretty friendly, especially considering the fact that they get to play five of their eight remaining games at home, including three games against their NFC West brethren. Their three road games include trips to Buffalo and Miami, which aren’t exactly the most fearsome locations in the league. Barring some miraculous run by the Cowboys or Bucs, Seattle feels like it’ll be the “surprise” average team to come out of the NFC.”

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  1. Hawksince77 says:

    More from Sando, if you haven’t already seen this:

    “Evidence suggests Wilson is gaining.

    The chart shows Total QBR figures for NFC West quarterbacks by sections of the season. Wilson has scored highest over the past four weeks, with Smith close behind.

    Only five quarterbacks in the NFL have scored higher than Wilson since Week 5. The list includes Peyton Manning (89.2), Eli Manning (83.9), Aaron Rodgers (83.8), Tom Brady (81.8) and Drew Brees (79.6).

    We’ve had some QBR debates over the past couple of seasons, but all should agree on this: Any metric singling out the two Mannings, Rodgers, Brady and Brees probably is on the right track. We can also agree that it’s a great indicator for the Seahawks to have their rookie quarterback ranking right there with those five over a four-week period, just ahead of Matt Ryan (77.1).

    That would be impressive for any quarterback, let alone a rookie still finding his way.”

  2. FleaFlicker says:

    While a five week stretch is encouraging, not definitive proof either way of a good QB. In my opinion. Still rooting for RW regardless.

    Would be nice to see Sydney have a monster game against his old team.

  3. Palerydr says:

    Wins are the Metric I look at doesn’t matter how they are rated to get them. Marino had great career numbers and 1 SB appearance a loss. It’s far to early to judge RW on wins but he has met my expectation of a 4-4 start to the season. I fully expect the Hawks to win the rest of their home games and get at least 1 win on the road. finishing at 10-6

  4. sluggo42 says:

    Pale – that sounds do-able. If they get a handle on their third down woes, I would not be surprised at all, even 7-1 or to sweep them out. Chicago being the biggest threat, of course. SF is the obvious elephant in the room as well. But, if they can get off the field on just a few of those 3rd downs, and give the ball back to our young superhero RW, we can get the swing points back in our favor, and start winning some games by a comfortable margin again…

  5. “In my story today, after an injury-plagued 2011 season, the Seattle Seahawks finally are getting the Sidney Rice they expected after inking him to a five-year, $41 million deal last year. Rice leads the team with 28 receptions for 367 yards and three touchdowns.”

    That would be 56 receptions for 734 yards for the season. Rice needs to have at least 1,200 yards receiving (75 per game) to justify the contract.

  6. bbnate420 says:

    Judging QBs is a laborious and complicated task if you want to do it right. I’m not a huge fan of QBR, but I agree that if you’re up there with the Manning’s, Brees, Rodgers, an Brady’s of the world that you are probably doing something right.

  7. bbnate420 says:

    Wins aren’t the absolute metric. If RW has a career anywhere near that of Marino, I will jizz my pants. We have the defense, running game, and can add enough other talent to win the SB if RW turns out to be an elite QB. Just my 2 cents!!!!!!!!!

  8. bbnate420 says:

    Rice has been good this year. We need him to stay healthy and develop more of a rapport with RW. I still think he will end up within 100 of 1,000 yards receiving if he stays healthy for the most part.

  9. Palerydr says:

    Agreed Sluggo they do need to get off the field on 3rd down and apparently they spent most of the week working on that. I would like to see less zone on 3rd and long and more blitzing. I originally had the Hawks at 9-7 but I’m choosing to be an optimist and look forward to a 10 win season which should put them in the conversation for a playoff spot.

    Canfan I also agree Rice needs to step up even more however if he doesn’t have the ball thrown his way it’s pretty tough to generate production. Doing the math he would need to avg 105 yds a game in the final 8 to reach 1200 for the season. Right now his avg is 45.9 with an avg of 5.5 targets and 13.1 yds per catch a game he’s just not getting enough passes thrown his way.

  10. Palerydr says:

    LOL Ok Nate I personally despise Marino as his opinion of himself is over inflated. I will stick to my guns about SB wins being the defining metric for a QB. You know Marino would trade his numbers for a SB win. IMO a good QB elevates the team around him to be better. However there are exceptions to every rule 2 guys that come to mind are Archie Manning and Dan Fouts both excellent QB’s who didn’t win the SB.

  11. bbnate420 says:

    Palerydr, It’s really complicated IMO. I think Marino was definitely good enough to win a SB. If he had been on the 49ers, Cowboys, Giants, or Bears in the 1980’s, I think he would’ve gotten a SB victory. I’m not a Marino of Miami fan. I just think he was plenty god enough to do it given a good enough team. My point was that I will be VERY excited if RW’s number’s come close to Marino’s. RW has the defense and running game to win. Hopefully, the receiving corps gets an upgrade in the off-season.

  12. bbnate420 says:

    I didn’t start really following the NFL until 1991, if that matters. I have watched a lot of NFL films. It makes me think of Steve, RIP, and Ed Sabol. NFL films segments on ESPN really drew me into the game. Gave me perspective and a sense of the “glory days”.

  13. HawkfaninMT says:

    That franchise tag cost article interested me a bit. I don’t see anyone that is worth using the tag on this year. My first thought was Jason Jones, but at 8 M per year? I don’t think so!

  14. PugetHawk says:

    I listened to Gus Bradley on KJR this morning and I came away very impressed. He is razor sharp mentally and has a great personality that fits with Carroll and the rest of the team. He admitted all the problems that everyone else has identified and has been working to fix them. I am confident that he will get it done.

  15. Remember the 2002 game? Shaun Alexander 5td’s in the 1st half.
    28pts in 1:47..

    Here are the highlights if you want to re-live it.
    Lots of familiar names. Trent Dilfer, Robbie Tobeck, Djack, BobbyE..

  16. mojjonation says:

    Rice’s lone good year was when Favre was slinging the rock and calling his own plays when he didn’t like Bevell’s. There is no way RW starts to trump Bevell, PC, and Cable, in order to inflate Rice’s numbers. There is now way the three guys change the game plan to throw to Rice more. I honestly think he will be lucky to hit 800 yards this season. He could easily be the most overpriced wide out in the league.

  17. I’ve been in Seattle in 2002 (I am not American) with almost zero knowlage about American footbal. After this game (I watched it on TV) i’ve become Seahawks fan forever. Now i know pretty much about footbal and didn’t miss any Seahawks game in the last few years.

  18. mojjonation says:

    With Minnesota giving up 156 rushing yards a game for the last three games, you hand the ball off until the can stop you. Then you change up your running style, and do it some more. Sometimes the best answer is the simplest answer. They have lost 2 of their last 3 and have given up 36 and 38 points in doing so. I said earlier I think it will be 24-23 or 27-24, but upon further review, we might be able to put 30 on these guys in our house.

  19. jboard1 says:

    mocarob – thanks…that is awesome to re-live those days. Forgot how much i loved watching the offense under Holmy. Good days indeed

  20. SandpointHawk says:

    @juliyp, welcome to the Insiders…

  21. Holmy had his predictable calls too. 3rd and 10, Mack Strong draw up the middle. Funny thing is he would get it quite often.

    I don’t miss Shaun though. What a contrast between SA and Lynch in running style.

  22. TomlPDX says:

    It sure was great to relive that game, mocarob. thanks for posting that (and welcome to the blog, juliyp!) That’s how I feel when I watch the Oregon Ducks or my Texas Aggies…anything is possible and if we’re down, don’t walk away from the game because it could change in a heartbeat!

    Going to be a great football weekend!

  23. TomlPDX says:

    Pilot, for all the badmouthing Shaun gets on this blog, he was still an awesome runner. I was as disappointed as everyone else his last year but man he sure could break ‘em!

    Holmes looks rather young in that video… wonder where he’ll be coaching next year…my money is on KC. It would suck if it turns out to be AZ.

  24. mocarob says:

    Coaching Hasselbeck would make anybody age prematurely. jk

  25. confucious says:

    Thanks Mocorab. Those holes the oline was creating were 3 men wide. Hutch, Jones, and Strong probably get pension checks signed by Shaun Alexander.

  26. HeinieHunter says:

    Great clip! Huge holes. Sean Alexander….what planet did we draft him from?

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