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Morning links: 5 keys for Hawks vs. Lions

Post by Eric Williams on Oct. 28, 2012 at 6:20 am with 38 Comments »
October 28, 2012 6:20 am
Seattle Seahawks wide receiver Golden Tate (81) catches a pass for a touchdown ahead of Green Bay Packers cornerback Charles Woodson (21) in the first half of an NFL football game, Monday, Sept. 24, 2012, in Seattle. (AP Photo/Stephen Brashear)

Good morning folks. It’s a bit chilly here in the Motor City, with temperatures in the 40s. But the Seahawks are playing inside today at Ford Field, so whether should not be a factor.

Here’s my five keys for the Seahawks as they try and get their second road victory of the season.

Win the turnover battle: Seattle has -3 turnover differential on the road this season, and the Lions are a team that will give you some opportunities to get the ball defensively, especially with as many chances Matthew Stafford takes in the passing game. So Seattle needs to take advantage of the opportunities presented defensively. The Lions have a -5 turnover differential this season, and the Seahawks need to steal a couple turnovers.

Score TDs in the red zone: The Lions have one of the top passing offenses in the league, and are averaging 22.2 points a contest. So Seattle needs improvement from its red zone offense, which is one of the worst in the league. Making things harder for the Seahawks is they face a red zone defense in Detroit that is tops in the league.

Get Rice involved: Seattle’s No. 1 receiver Sidney Rice had only one catch through the first three quarters last week at San Francisco. That can’t happen today. Seattle needs to have balance offensively and give Rice at least four targets in the first half to keep that Detroit defense from stacking the box against Marshawn Lynch and Seattle’s running game. By the way, the last time Rice played in Detroit, he finished with seven catches for 201 yards.

Catch the ball: Seattle’s only throwing 25 times a game, so you can’t drop 20 percent of those chances and expect to win games. Seattle receivers finished with at least five drops last week against San Francisco. Golden Tate had two of those drops, and finished without a catch for the first time as a starter. I expect Tate to bounce back and have a good game today.

Contain Megatron: There’s been some entertaining back and forth between Seattle’s Richard Sherman and Detroit’s Calvin Johnson this week, but don’t expect the Seahawks to put Sherman and Brandon Browner too much on an island against one of the best receivers in the league. The Seahawks don’t want to give up explosive plays and let the Detroit offense get some confidence, so expect Seattle to try and stop the run with seven in the box, and a roll a safety to whatever side Johnson is on.

Here’s my advance for today’s game, which focuses on receiver Golden Tate.

Clare Farnsworth of writes that for Seattle to win on the road against Detroit the Seahawks have to create more turnovers.

Danny O’Neil of the Seattle Times says the Seahawks should not be afraid to keep passing if they have success throwing the ball in the opening quarter.

Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press predicts a 14-9 win for the Lions.

More Birkett: Former Seattle defensive end Lawrence Jackson says he feels no bitterness toward Pete Carroll for trading him two years ago. But Jackson says this about Carroll: “He didn’t think I was a first-round pick. I felt like out of his whole run of that era, the one thing you look at that’s a constant was me playing out there. I started 51 of 52 games, produced at a high level, things like that, but I just wasn’t one of his guys. From that regard, I always felt disrespected in a sense.”

Dan Pompei of the National Football Post writes that the reason Sidney Rice hasn’t been targeted as much is because he did not have an opportunity to develop chemistry with Russell Wilson during the preseason. I’m not buying that. Pompei: “The oft-injured Rice didn’t have a chance to work with new quarterback Russell Wilson in the offseason because he was rehabbing from shoulder surgeries, and he missed a good portion of camp and the preseason. As a result, Wilson and Rice were not clicking very well on the field. Their chemistry has improved, but it still has a ways to go. While Rice was working his way back into the offense, Golden Tate became the team’s primary vertical threat. But it’s likely the Seahawks coaches will push Rice back to the forefront now. It’s obvious they need his big play potential.”

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  1. Braylon should be starting at split end. Tate shouldn’t even see a down of action this week, that’s how pissed I still am at him.

  2. Dukeshire says:

    I too would like to see Edwards starting at split end. And to Eric’s point about Rice, they simply have to find a way to get him involved. He’s healthy now, and just too dangerous to not incorporate heavily into the game plan.

  3. Yes after last week and Tate’s inconsistent play since he was drafted it would be nice to check what edwards could bring to the table. But we should remember that Edwards has been known to drop passes also. We have to find a way to win this game and kicking fieldgoals won’t do it- our red zone offense is a joke.

  4. confucious says:

    Up tempo offense, short passing to loosen up Lb’s, steady run. Then downfield imo.

  5. I prefer Braylon over Tate also.

    It will be interesting to see how the reps at WE work out today. Especially because I believe we will be without Baldwin until after the bye week.

  6. Im pretty sure Rice has dropped more passes than Tate this season, and to be honest, Tate is outplaying him.

    Tate drops two passes last week, and now everyone wants to trade him for Dwayne Bowe, a guy who drops more passes than Terrel Owens.

    Give me a break.

    Im not happy with Tate’s performance last week either–and nor is he; hopefully he has a better game today.

    And Edwards? Dude hasnt done much except in the Red Zone, and he hasnt exactly done anything amazing there either. Edwards doesnt have the speed anymore.

  7. Rice hasnt been getting open enough, though even when he has, Wilson has struggled to get him the ball. Blame should start at the top with Carrol, Cable, and Bevell getting healthy doses of it, but in the end, Rice just isnt getting it done, and he’s paid to get it done no matter what.

    Fitz and the rest of the truly elite WR’s of the league–those paid more than 6 mill a year–find a way, even with bad qb’s. If Rice was truly elite, he would too.

    I expected a lot more from the guy.

  8. This is the NFL, you can’t expect the receivers to be open all the time, he has to be thrown open from time to time as well. The receivers have all been inconsistent this season, including Rice, and I have seen all of them quit on routes and plays multiple times this season, which isn’t good enough, but to say he isn’t getting it done is a bit of a stretch and a bit unfair, it’s a combination of Receivers and the QB not getting it done, maybe they just aren’t on the same page enough on a consistent basis.

  9. Dukeshire says:

    My complaints regarding Tate extend well beyond last week. He gives up on routes, is not a quality route runner (still), and now is dropping balls, which was his one saving grace. Overall however, Seattle currently ranks among the league’s best in dropped passes (fewest…).

  10. Dukeshire says:

    I agree with JacDG. So far, Wilson generally doesn’t delive the ball unless his target is clearly open. With Rice, who is getting loose as a matter of fact, he needs to trust him to make a play when he sees one on one. Hopefully it will come soon, but for now, I can understand Rice’s frustration.

  11. Interesting discussion on the radio just now about the scripted plays. They’re saying that we are going away from those plays later in the game. A lot of time goes into selecting and practicing those plays and the player have them really down. They say Holmgren was expert at sticking with the most successful of those plays as the game continued and we’re not doing that now.

    I think interceptions or lack there of will be key in this game.

  12. Ewalters7354 says:

    Receivers quitting on routes is not all accurate.They run their routes, and SOMETIMES before they finish, the WB has always scrambled out if the pocket and thrown the ball out of bounds.We can’t tell if Rice is getting op

  13. Ewalters7354 says:

    -en or not consistently or not because he barely even gets targets.Some can be credited to not throwing much,but out of 20 passes, Rice should at least get 5-7 looks by RW.

  14. Dukeshire says:

    I am refering to Tate only, here. A prime example was the Pats game, on the goal line. Rice ran a wheel route to the stick and Tate was supposed to run a shallow crosser which would have taken the FS away from Rice. He stopped at the line and just stood there, ultimately tipping a ball intended for Rice. To be fair, he may have not quit the route, he simply may have not known his assignment. Either case, we see this too often from a 3 year player, IMO.

  15. Ewalters7354 says:

    Duke, I agree.Golden Tate really reminds me of Aaron Curry(mentality wise).He just doesn’t get it Why? I have no clue.Maybe he feels like the team can’t afford to lose him on field.

    He also interfered with Rice’s route against the Packers.Rice was wide open in the corner of tge endzone snd Tate tipped the ball.

  16. Soggybuc says:

    The Tater Tot has been out of position many times this year, I’m still a fan of the guy but darn it all if he doesn’t “get it soon”.

    As a continuation of last nights thread. What song do you guys see as a good theme for the Legion?
    I’m stuck on SRV’s Couldn’t stand the weather.
    Or The Man’s Ring of fire.

  17. Dukeshire says:

    I hadn’t thought of making that connection, but you’re right: they do remind me of one another.

  18. grizindabox24 says:

    Edwards is inactive

  19. richardcranium says:

    “Richard, this is Optimus Prime. When you see Megatron, you must tell him: ‘One shall stand, one shall fall.’ Wish you the best. Roll out!” — Voicemail left for Richard Sherman
    Yes, Optimus Prime really called cornerback Richard Sherman this week. Or at least his voice did. Peter Cullen — the voice of the Autobots leader in the 1980s cartoon “Transformers” — called to leave a message for Sherman after receiving a tip from Sam Farmer, the L.A. Times reporter who was in Seattle last week reporting a story on game week in the NFL. Farmer knows Cullen through a mutual friend.

    Sherman hears from Optimus Prime
    By Sam Farmer | The Los Angeles Times

    That’s one more twist in the week-long build-up to the game in which Sherman changed his Twitter handle to Optimus Prime, a reference to Lions receiver Calvin Johnson, who is nicknkamed Megatron. That name switch ruffled some feathers in the Detroit locker room.

    As for Sunday’s matchup, here’s Cullen’s scouting report: “Optimus Prime always wins that battle, for sure. But not without tremendous adversity coming from Megatron, and sometimes we’re left up in the air.”

  20. And he was taking reps away from Tate all week.

  21. JS says his knee swelled up over night and he just couldn’t go today.

  22. Moffit also out.

  23. Dukeshire says:

    Soggybuc – Couldn’t Stand The Weather is one of my all time favorite songs. Love it! This might work too (Cut to the 1:30 mark here and hold on…)

  24. Dukeshire says:

    richardcranium – Lol. Too funny… Thanks for passing along.

  25. grizindabox24 says:

    Hawks very thin at receiver today

  26. richardcranium–Hahahaha! Thats awesome!

    God, I wish Sherman hadnt put a bee in Megatrons bonnet though! That guy can be unstoppable!

  27. Charly Martin to the rescue…?!

  28. Perhaps we’ll see some slants to Obomanu…maybe he gets open deep–if Detroit underestimates him, he can sneak behind them.

    Personally, I think Obomanu at SE and Tate in the slot, or Tate at SE and Obo in the slot will be okay. WE’ll see…

  29. richardcranium says:

    Been a LONG time reader of the blog. I use to troll other blogs which is where the handle came from. Those days are gone! Go hawks!

  30. piperfeltcher says:

    I do not understand why Tate is not used more in the short passing game. I would like to see Tate get 3-4 bubble screen passes today and see if he can break one as he is really the only Hawks WR who is allusive enough to take a short pass all the way.

  31. Dukeshire says:

    I actually like Tate remaining at split end and Obo in the slot. Two reasons: 1 – Tate has been working nearly all season at SE so that will remain consistent. 2 – Obo is a far more polished route runner and the slot can really help a QB under pressure, which Wilson may be today.

  32. richardcranium says:

    San Fran had huge success with traps and dives against these guys. Go with what works. Control the clock.

  33. Soggybuc says:

    Way to go Duke! think I already got the neighbors mad at me and the cops on the way for a noise complaint 40 minutes before the game starts!!
    Awesome stuff! I could see the Worm looking at his opponent and simply going “Say What!”

  34. Dukeshire says:

    Lol. Good work.

    richardcranium – They did indeed. Fortunately, Detroit doesn’t feature an inside power running game, but the blueprint is there.

  35. richardcranium says:

    Anyone else see the steelers throwbacks today? Looks like a chain gang!

  36. Soggybuc says:

    The thing I heard is that the Lions do use that inside trap game quite a bit, but the difference is no Gore and their line is no where near what the whiners have.
    Got to give the SF props for what the did last game. they went Mano y Mano and whooped us good. I really wanted Iupati in to wear Blue.

  37. grizindabox24 says:

    Not sure the Hawks can score enough to win road games against decent teams…hope I am wrong

  38. Soggybuc says:

    Gawd those Steeler throwbacks are awefull, Think I’d rather look at a picture of Courtney Love naked than watch that for 60 minutes.

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