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Post by Eric Williams on Oct. 23, 2012 at 12:26 pm with 86 Comments »
October 23, 2012 12:26 pm
2012 Stats Hawks Lions
2012 Record 4-3 2-4
Total Yards Gained 2,055 2,438
Total Offense (NFLRank) 293.6 (30) 406.3 (4)
Rush Offense 131.7 (8) 99.7 (19)
Pass Offense 161.9 (31) 306.7 (2)
Points Per Game 16.6 (31) 22.2 (19)
Total Yards Allowed 2,081 1,916
Total Defense 297.3 (5) 319.3 (8)
Rush Defense 85.0 (6) 108.8 (16)
Pass Defense 212.3 (8) 210.5 (6)
Points Allowed/Game 15.1 (3) 25.0 (22)
Possession Avg. 30:35 30:15
Sacked/Yds. Lost 14/97 12/86
Sacks Made/Yds. Lost 19/102 17/111
Interceptions By 6 2
Penalties/Yds. 51/418 47/436
Punts/Avg. 29/50.4 29/40.8
Turnover Differential -1 (T18) -5(25)

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  1. jchawks08 says:

    Well, if defense wins games, we got this. Lot’s of fluffy yards it would appear for the Lions. Shut down Megatron which apparently isn’t difficult this year, and I see a solid 23-9 win.

  2. I say a 9 to 3 victory. We’re obviously not scoring more than 20, especially on the road.

  3. mojjonation says:

    Oh please not another Cleveland game. Between Lynch, Turbin, and Washington, they should hand the ball off 45 times and just keep Detroit off the field.

  4. This is a game we should be able to win but it won’t be easy. On the road and at 10am it will really show how much progress we’ve made. I’m looking forward to a very satisfying win!

  5. jchawks08 says:

    Yea, this is a new era. 10AM games be damned. We’re over you! I hope.. Our Lil QB will manage this game to perfection. And I need everyone of Lynch’s 24.9 projected pts.

  6. Ewalters7354 says:

    I agree with TruBlu.I think this may indeed be a low scoring game.The first to 17 wins.

  7. I certainly don’t see the Lions game as an easy win. The Cardinals game week one was an “easy” win, too. I don’t care what their record is, the Lions have some talented players and any given Sunday could put a spanking on us (even if we’d win 7 out of 10 times).

  8. EastCoastFan51 says:

    i agree the defense better put their big boy pants on and get some pressure on stafford. too often away from the clink our pass rush disappears. they should be a little upset on how they got pushed around in the run game vs SF….i dont expect them to be able to run on us. please don’t knock stafford out of the game as we have a history of letting scrub backups look like joe montana.

  9. Dukeshire says:

    I’m surprised their pass defense has been that solid, actually.

  10. “I certainly don’t see the Lions game as an easy win. The Cardinals game week one was an “easy” win, too. I don’t care what their record is, the Lions have some talented players and any given Sunday could put a spanking on us (even if we’d win 7 out of 10 times).”

    I’m totally with you on that – we are not a great team, we’re a good one. Any game against a decent opponent, esp on the road, is a challenge for us this year.

    I know our defense has looked amazing for most of the year, and Marshawn is one of the best, but I never thought, and still don’t, that we would be a super bowl-caliber team this season. My goal for this team, and I’m still very hopeful, is to get to the playoffs. Then, we’ll see about next year.

  11. dirtbiker_joey says:

    It’s not like Megatron isn’t getting catches – he’s 5th in the league in receiving yards and 2nd in yards per game – he’s just not getting into the end zone. Put Sherman on him all day, and we shouldn’t hear much from him. Burleson’s out. Who else really scares you on that offense?

    I like the way this one stacks up, provided the Offense holds up their end, and we keep Suh out of the backfield.

    What doesn’t show up in these numbers is the return game. Detroit’s special teams are susceptible. Look for Leon to break something, probably a punt return (I don’t think Detroit will be kicking off very much). That has been a formula for success for us in the past.

  12. What this tells me:

    Lions defense plays in a division with legitimate offensive talent, and is still ranked that highly. That’s a bad deal. Their offense is very capable of moving the ball, but seems that turnovers have limited their chances in the red zone, which is where I’m assuming the turnovers are happening due to C. Johnson’s lackluster scoring numbers. Its gonna be a feat for this offense to put up points @DET. I’m almost positive this Seahawks defense is going to do more than enough to get the W… But will ultimately lose. This begins the downward spiral and unraveling of the locker room.

    Btw, calling ACIB “ACID” isn’t clever, nor funny.

  13. MoSeahawk12 says:

    no need to watch the game then…..hope the team doesn’t quit before the game starts.

  14. MoSeahawk12 says:

    looks like you have an extra 3 plus hours to do something else this Sunday

  15. RADEoN – Personally, you need to stick around. My only beef is that a few times you made references to tell people to make a noose or something and that takes all credibility away from any argument you could make (even if they insulted you, too).

    Also, and this is a biggie… but you can’t (or shouldn’t) root for Wilson (or anyone outside of Dockett… lol) to get hurt (especially a guy as nice/good as Wilson).

    I know you “only” did it once, but you can’t/shouldn’t do that if you want your arguments taken seriously.

    If you disagree, that’s fine… but I don’t think we should hate on our own (although I can pretty much guarantee that none of you have ever hated any of “ours” more than I hated Numbskull for losing Hutch and then on T-Jack (which makes me a hypocrite).

  16. Yeah you’re right. I get really fired up sometimes. We’re gonna learn a lot about Wilson this weekend. Let’s not forget, this Lions team is the one that Flynn scorched for nearly 500 yards and 5 touchdowns.

    People think I “hate my own”, which I do not. Just because I disagree with how PC is doing things, doesn’t make me a hater. And when I said RW should break his femur, it was purely in jest… Before this season is over, I think we should see what Flynn has to offer. You compare the careers of current-era NFL rookies, and its just not adding up.

  17. Okay… rational discussion… which I love on this blog… but Wilson can’t throw up 480 yards this weekend b/c our offense isn’t designed that way.

    I believe that Rice is better than Nelson, who is a better #1 of Flynn if we compared that Lions game to what Wilson will have to work with on Sunday, and all that jazz, and, besides, this Seahawks defense isn’t bad enough for Detroit to score a bunch of points on (which means Flynn won’t be forced to throw for a bunch of extra yards as he was last year when GB benched guys like Woodson).

    There are always variables…

    Maybe I see it more objectively since I like both, even though I have liked Flynn more (due to the “win now” menality of having more NFL experience), even though I refuse to hate on Wilson b/c I like him, too. I was so jacked about Wilson during the 1st half of the game on Thursday, it was crazy and then the 2nd half happened… and then, being on the fence, things/thoughts changed AGAIN!!!

    I could give a rip less who wins a SB for us… I just want to win one!!!

    Granted, if Mr. Happy would have gone with T-Jack… I guarantee my rampage would be 1,000 times worse than anyone has ever seen, including you and ACIB put together!!!

  18. montanamike2 says:

    I like some of your posts RAD. I was stoked we got Flynn and we have the potential to see him sooner rather than later if Suh gets Wilson. I do believe in RW as the future. I can only trust that Pete saw something in preseason that we’re not privy to.

  19. MoSeahawk12 says:

    If Carrol would have gone with T Jack, this team would be 2-5 like last year or worse. That would have pretty much doomed the 2012 season. Thankfully, that bad dream is over and we are 4 and 3. Sure, he played with a significant injury and showed major toughness, but I never expected them to win once they got behind. Don’t think he was able to bring them back once last year. Two fold improvement so far this year. Let’s hope we stake out a lead this week and stay in front for four quarters. I think our D matches up well with them and should be able to limit what they do. I think we score 2 rushing TD’s and Wilson throws one to Miller.

  20. RADEoN – I’m not a “hater” either, even though I’ve hated plenty on Spencer, Sims, T-Jack, signing old veteran FAs, etc.

  21. Don’t get me wrong, I really do like Russell Wilson, I just don’t think he’s tall enough for this league… And history shows that.

    RW has tremendous work ethic (among the best in the NFL, in my opinion), the drive to win, the selflessness to take a hit to get a 1st down, a great interview personality, he’s an awesome leader, and the thing that stands out to me most —– you don’t see him sulking and whining on the sidelines after a loss, I.E Cam Newton, Jay Cutler, etc. He shows professionalism on and off the field, which is why it sucks to say, I don’t think this dude is going to break down any height barriers and be a legitimate contender. Hopefully I’m wrong, he’s certainly trying to make the most of this opportunity, but that being said, there’s a reason he was passed over 2+ rounds before being picked.

  22. GeorgiaHawk says:

    The Shermanator will shut down Megatron?

  23. GeorgiaHawk says:

    RADEoN- Tom Brady was passed over 6+ rounds, Montana was passed over 2+ rounds, Hasselbeck, well you get the picture.
    GMs don’t always get it right. Time will tell but hopefully they got it wrong with Wilson.

  24. Georgia, the difference between Brady, is that 1, he’s 6’4, 2, wasn’t thrown into the fire his rookie season, and 3, when he was drafted, nobody really knew what they were getting. Belichick can say he did, but he didn’t. Brady sat behind Brian Griese, and had to split time with Drew Hensen until he finally beat him out. While Wilson has the credentials from college, his size is still absolutely something I feel I’m allowed to question. Plus, aside from the game vs NE, Wilson has looked bad, at best. Plus, Brady hit a groove by week 5 his first season starting because of an injury to Bledsoe.

  25. dirtbiker_joey says:

    The Seahawks secondary is one of the best at playing man press coverage, and I think Sherm has the skills to take Megatron out of the game. Of course, we might see them come out in a zone where they can double-team him. In that case, ET and Kam will have big games, and look for them to read Stafford and pick him off 1-3 times. Either way, Detroit is fairly one-dimetional on offense, and that plays into Seattle’s strength.

  26. GeorgiaHawk says:

    RADEoN- I wasn’t trying to compare Brady and Wilson as players. If it sounded like that then my mistake. I just wanted to say that even if GMs or draft experts think there are reasons to skip drafting a player for two rounds or more it doesn’t always mean they are right.

    Baldwin, Kam, Irvin, Carpenter, Sherman, and a few others are examples of that imo. Hopefully Wilson will too. If not we have one hell of a backup to take over.

  27. JMSeaTown says:

    Because of Detroit’s lack of a run attack and no solid #2 opposite Calvin, we can double team Megatron all day. He’ll still have close to 100 yds… but limiting him to the 40+ yd catches for 6 will be key.

  28. yeah I agree, and that’s what i feel RW is… a backup that you KNOW if your starting QB were to go down, you could go up against most any team, and still stay competitive. If Hasselbeck were still here, and RW was his backup, I’d have no problem seeing RW step in behind center if/when Matty Frail went down.

  29. My #1 scenario would be for Matt (Hasselbeck) to have lead this team THIS year… for next year to have been a competition (Hasselbeck/Wilson) next year… and for Wilson to ‘for sure’ have been the guy by ’14 at the latest (and earlier, in spurts, given Matt’s injury history). In this situation, I know there’d be no Matt Flynn in Seattle and I’m okay with that.

    However, that can’t/didn’t happen.

    I wish Matt would have stayed and played on the 1 year contract. I wish the organization would have given him a 2 year deal. Anything close, and you know he’d still be here (TN gave him 3 years, but the money really went downhill after the first year).

    Yes. I’m upset about the situation, but being mad doesn’t get us anywhere now.

    Personally, I wish Wilson/Flynn would split the reps in practice for the next 3 weeks (and then we know who our starter is coming out of the bye based on performance in real games for almost a month). And then split series’ the next 3 games. Then we wouldn’t have to hear about how Wilson got to face 3rd stringers in the pre-season or vanilla defenses as a measuring tool for why he shouldn’t be starting now. At the same time, we wouldn’t have to hear the Flynn stuff about how he’d be doing better now.

    I know that’s “never” been done, but at the same time, we are dealing with an organization that “doesn’t care” what other people think. If they put their money where their mouth is, this could happen with respect to the QB position. Just b/c other teams haven’t been successful with musical chair QBs, doesn’t mean they can’t be in Seattle now.

    Normally, when you have two average or sucky QBs, it doesn’t work.

    However, I don’t think we have two average or sucky QBs… I think we have two who can/will be fine/good/solid who bring different things to the table.

    To take it another level, you cannot tell me that the 49ers would have sucked if they’d have gone with Montana AND Young alternating (not that I’m saying either of our guys are as good as them – which I’m not), but I hope you understand what I mean by this…

    Why not? What would be wrong with this besides “it’s never worked” when we are dealing with an organization that has clearly stated they “don’t care” what others think with respect to being different?

    I watched the ’94 Nebraska Cornhuskers win a National Championship without having a “starting” QB for the whole season (after Frazier had the blood clot). I know college is a different thing, but they (QBs) even split plays in the National Championship game that year (and won). Heck, you guys watched the 2nd best college team I’ve ever seen (I don’t mean this to turn into a debate) and they had 2 QBs too (Huskies in ’92).

    At the same time, nobody can tell me Wilson is “too short” when Brees is only one inch taller. Part of the reason short QBs have sucked or not been successful in the NFL is because they haven’t been given the chances that taller QBs have been given either.

    Why am a I whiny b!t(h on this issue? It’s b/c I like our top two QBs and believe they both have something to offer so guys like ET, Mebane, Sherman, Big Red, etc. can win a Super Bowl THIS year. For me, it’s not either/or… It’s about the ability to “comPete” NOW!!! which I think we can/should do!!!

  30. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Good posts RADEoN, BobbyK- My hope last year was to Resign Hasselbeck and some how move down in the draft to pick Locker. BTW, That was Hasselbecks, and Lockers hope too.

    Ok, so it didn’t happen. Plan B- Go after Manning, Didn’t work out. Plan C- Go after Matt Flynn, did happen. Then go after best available qb in draft. Did happen. Now we have a good chance to replace Jackson.

    That alone has given me more hope with this team than last year.

  31. yellaman says:

    I see we are 2nd to last in passing yards and in points per game does Seattle need anymore proof that a rookie qb is going to struggle in this league? But i don’t blame RW I blame PC and bevell for an offense that can’t even average 20pts a game and a passing offense that we need to be just average and we would be 6-1 or undefeated. Pathetic!!!!

  32. Ewalters7354 says:

    Bobbyk, I agree about Wilson.I believe he can be good/great in the future.

    I’m just against throwing a guy in the game due to preseason performances.Pete didn’t do with CBJ even though he outplayed T-jack in peeseason.Pete backed Matt and T-jack even though they played like crap most games, and he’s doing it again with Wilson.Only difference is this team is actually a playoff contender, and it’s being crippled by the growth process of a rookie.I know Flynn would’ve struggled some also, but I don’t think it would be as bad based on his current knowledge of the game.

    I’ll root my ass off for whoever the QB is.But just like I did with MH and T-jack, Wilson is no exception.People say we beat a dead horse at times, but just seeing the condition of this team I’ll continue to call out those who perform poorly and cost the team wins.No partiality in this fan.

  33. Ewalters7354 says:

    yellaman, amen bro.

  34. What about these side by side stats point to an easy win for the Seahawks? You can usually get some good feedback on this blog but WOW, lets get a little more realistic here.

  35. chitwit – I don’t think there’s anthing “unrealistic” about asking for an organization that clearly has stated it “doesn’t care” about what others think with respect to asking/hoping they spend three weeks alternating QBs in practice/games if it means the TEAM may benefit from this. I’m pretty sure the plays would be up for it, too, if they thought it would help them win.

    If I watch Wilson do better than Flynn in real games, I’ll disprespect Flynn people if they say he should be starting in the future and vice versa. I want to win and I don’t care how it happens. This would shut everyone up about who is better and if both players play pretty even… keep going with it and make them “comPete” for the job again in ’13… both have strengths/weaknesses right now and by playing both, defensive coordinators would have to prepare for everything, too (like the Wilson cannon and the ability of Flynn to use the middle of the field consistently, for example).

  36. chitwit – sorry. I thought you were referring to something else. lol

  37. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “If Carrol would have gone with T Jack, this team would be 2-5 like last year or worse. That would have pretty much doomed the 2012 season.”

    This is nothing but speculative drivel. We were 2-5 last year with T-Jack at the helm, but the difference is that our defense was nowhere near as statistically great as it is now (that worthless sack of s*** Aaron Curry started like the first quarter of the season, for heaven’s sake), had absolutely no run game, and a legitimately bad OL. When our run game and defense started to click in the last half of the season, T-Jack’s TD/INT ratio significantly picked up and we started winning games and had an outside chance at the playoffs.

    Honestly, we’d win more games this season with Tarvaris Jackson than we would with Russell Wilson.

  38. The ceiling of T-Jack is about at the level of the room under your basement.

    Wilson has something Jackson doesn’t… potential to be good.

    If that means taking a lump or two this year, so be it (although you can read what I say above to see that I want Wilson AND Flynn to get some regular season shots in the next 3 weeks).

  39. Before you say the “second half of the season” stuff… just remember that I can’t actually remember an easier Seahawks schedule ever where they played a bunch of bad teams like the pretty much did for most of the last half of last season. Even when they played a good/great team, it was at home (49ers late). Look at the starting QBs they faced (Sexy Rexy, Hanie, the clowns in our division 4 times w/Bradord hurt, VY, another crappy back-up, etc.). It was brutal/ugly. That’s why a guy like Jackson could win… because he wasn’t drastically worse than the clowns he was playing. If he’d have played Brady, Rodgers, etc. with the defense of last year (not as good as this year), we’d have a crappy record now, too.

  40. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “The ceiling of T-Jack is about at the level of the room under your basement.

    Wilson has something Jackson doesn’t… potential to be good.

    If that means taking a lump or two this year, so be it (although you can read what I say above to see that I want Wilson AND Flynn to get some regular season shots in the next 3 weeks).”

    I think this is the crux of why my opinion is apparently radically different than others on Wilson.

    Because not only am I certain he isn’t good now, I’m very concerned that he won’t ever be good in the future. As far as I’ve seen, the only difference between him and Seneca Wallace, Troy Smith, etc is that he’s over-the-top polite, gives interviews filled with cliches, and is generally an all-around awesome person. But that applied to Aaron Curry, too. And the unfortunate fact is, that stuff is all well and good but does not help on the football field. I think he’s too short and too inaccurate to ever be a top 15 starter.

  41. I wish we could edit spelling mistakes! lol

  42. bird_spit says:

    RADeon, BobbyK ..good exchanges above…reminds me of why I started reading this blog.

  43. If you watch a Seneca or Troy Smith interview, you can tell there isn’t much upstairs. With Wilson, you can tell there is something up there. He could very well be bad in the future, but we can’t say, IMO, that he will be a bust either (even if he’d been a 1st rounder). At least I don’t think so. For now, I like him, even with the statistically rough start (which I think is part other factors, although I will admit that Bevell, for example, is a bit handcuffed with having a rookie). If T-Jack were our 2nd stringer, I’d be screaming from the rooftops that Wilson should stay in as the starter for every snap the remainder of this season.

  44. Ewalters7354 says:

    ” Before you say the “second half of the season” stuff… just remember that I can’t actually remember an easier Seahawks schedule ever where they played a bunch of bad teams like the pretty much did for most of the last half of last season. Even when they played a good/great team, it was at home (49ers late). Look at the starting QBs they faced (Sexy Rexy, Hanie, the clowns in our division 4 times w/Bradord hurt, VY, another crappy back-up, etc.). It was brutal/ugly. That’s why a guy like Jackson could win… because he wasn’t drastically worse than the clowns he was playing. If he’d have played Brady, Rodgers, etc. with the defense of last year (not as good as this year), we’d have a crappy record now, ”
    With the current play of Russell on last years team.The hawks would’ve been 3-13 drafting RG3.

  45. ThickRich says:

    Go Ducks! Go Hawks! Go Russell Wilson

  46. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “If you watch a Seneca or Troy Smith interview, you can tell there isn’t much upstairs. With Wilson, you can tell there is something up there.”

    I know, I thought I made that clear. But having “more upstairs” is not going to overcoming his numerous physical deficiencies.

    ” If T-Jack were our 2nd stringer, I’d be screaming from the rooftops that Wilson should stay in as the starter for every snap the remainder of this season.”

    Yes, because Jackson is/was a known commodity. Flynn is an unknown commodity, and we have evidence that he could potentially be a good starter, and at the very least, a better starter than Russell Wilson.

  47. “If you watch a Seneca or Troy Smith interview, you can tell there isn’t much upstairs.”

    Really? And what about if you watch a Ben Roethlisberger or Terry Bradshaw interview? Do those guys seem like geniuses to you?

  48. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “Really? And what about if you watch a Ben Roethlisberger or Terry Bradshaw interview? Do those guys seem like geniuses to you?”

    No, they don’t, and that’s precisely my point. “Having a lot upstairs” is like the only thing Russell Wilson has going for him, but that is not a trait so overwhelmingly important that it can mask his other numerous weaknesses. Roethlisberger is no genius (or saint) but his strapping size, rocket arm, mobility, accuracy, and exceptional ability against the blitz is why he is and will always be a better quarterback than Wilson.

  49. Ewalters7354 says:

    I agree with ACIB.Being a better speaker and giving great interviews have nothing to do with on field production.Eli Manning gives the worst interviews, and certainly is missing a few screws upstairs.But on field he has what it takes to help his team win.

  50. This game ain’t going to be easy. If the Lions didn’t fumble twice on the goal line in MNF they would of won the game and the Bears D is way better at getting turnovers then the Seahawks D is.

  51. MoSeahawk12 says:

    Another classy ACIB quote-(that worthless sack of s*** Aaron Curry started like the first quarter of the season, for heaven’s sake)

    Do you know Curry personably? Did he beat you up, take money from you, steal your drugs, break into your house? Curry didn’t beat his wife, get busted with drugs and was a solid citizen and did plenty of charitable work. You know, helping kids, people less fortunate. Being a stand up guy and not another millionaire asshole athlete that you read about every day. The guy was rated #1 by all the “Pros” He didn’t work out and that’s too bad, because he looked the part. He wasn’t a bad teammate. Worked hard. Something just didn’t translate upstairs. Kinda like you.

    It sucks too because we needed the guy as the previous front office liked bringing in older linebackers that were well past their best seasons and were always injured. We had a chance to get young and fast at that position. It didn’t happen. Well it did, just not exactly the way it was designed. Thank God for the current front office nailing so many late round picks.

    He wasn’t a very good NFL player for us and yes will go down as your screen name, but that doesn’t make him trash. Calling someone a piece of you sh t because they didn’t become the football player you thought they should be shows another shining example of your basic nature. At least on this blog. I’m sure you’re a hell of a guy in person. It might be time to move on and get over it. That draft was four years ago.

  52. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    MoSeahawk12, I was referring to his play on the field. I will make no apologies for that statement, as Aaron Curry is one of the very worst linebackers I have ever had the displeasure of watching. I already made a comment in this entry about how Curry is a fine person and nice guy, just like Russell Wilson.

    “It might be time to move on and get over it. That draft was four years ago.”

    No. I got ridiculed much in the same way as I am now about my opinion of Russell Wilson for saying a linebacker would never be worth the 4th overall pick and Curry in particular was absolute trash.

  53. JMSeaTown says:

    ACIB: change your name to RWIB. Curry’s history.

  54. sluggo42 says:

    hmm, looks like I missed more of the same…

  55. Screensmoke says:

    Same garbage different day- News FLASH Russell Wilson is starting QB for hawks.everybody likes the backup especially people who really don’t get the game because they have never strapped on a helmet!do you know what it’s like when you hit somebody so hard your nose starts bleeding?no u don’t- you just want to tweak on this blog and whine and snivel about the rookie QB and how the backup will do better or u bich about peoples spelling on this moronic blog. What a joke – you same blow hards say the same crap over and over days on end I guess expecting different results- that would be called insanity! I feel for you-gee I hope Wilson doesn’t do well for your sake.now this about the time dukeshire comes on says dome stupid analysis about how we all need to get along until somebody disagrees with him and then he goes off- bob K news flash for ya- tim ruskell, hutch! T jack, hasselbsck, the past—ANCIENT HISTORY– move on – that ship has sailed- your do for some new material–ya da ya da ya da—- don’t worry —I won’t sneeze in your cornflakes to much — because I actually have a life and really could careless about what any of you think about my football team. It is nice to come on here sometimes and read all this self righteous garbage that you 6 or 7 bloggers spew out because it reminds me of how bad life could be. If you dipsticks know what I know you would be grateful for this team and what you have but know it’s all about bring self righteous( spell thatright Bobby?)and vindictive to anybody who doesn’t c it your way—WHATEVER-go hawks:-)

  56. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    Screensmoke, that just may be the worst comment ever posted in the history of this blog. It is awful and you should feel awful for making it.

  57. . . . If you dipsticks know what I know you would be grateful for this team

    So enlighten us with your vast knowledge

  58. MoSeahawk12 says:

    it won’t take Screensmoke. There’s a ton of posters here that have requested for some new material but, what can you say when the guy lives four years in the past and can’t move on. Must have paid a lot for that Curry jersey. EBay man, you might get ten bucks for it.

    Speaking of worst comments…..you have your very own top 100.

    You don’t get paid to make actual draft picks for actual NFL teams. Just like the rest of us here. The majority of the sports media had him rated in the top five picks. He was on the cover of most national publications along with the QB’s. It’s not a stretch that he was taken by the Seahawks that high when they had a glaring need and Sanchez wasn’t what they wanted that year. I wish we would have taken Matthews or Cushing, but hey, they didn’t ask me. A lot of teams missed on Matthews as he wasn’t taken until the 26th pick in the first round. That was a great linebacker class, unfortunately we missed on a guy. The team has moved on and now has the strongest LB group that they have had in a low time if ever.

  59. sluggo42 says:

    I gave up, I just skip em now…

    It’s easier to give my cat a bath…

  60. Every week from now to the end of the season is a big game. Don’t overlook Lions.

  61. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    ” It’s not a stretch that he was taken by the Seahawks that high when they had a glaring need”

    Bull. There was no damn glaring need at LINEBACKER of all positions, not with a fossilized Matt Hasselbeck and a microfractured Walter Jones. We already had Lofa Tatupu and Leroy Hill.

  62. RussellWilsonIsSHORT says:

    Wow, nice rant Smokescreen. If this is a bunch of garbage and we’re all a bunch of blowhards, why do you bother reading this blog, let alone commenting?

    I assume we’re all here because we’re all diehard Seahawks fans and we all want the same thing: to win a Superbowl. Everyone has their opinion on the best way to achieve that goal, and this is the forum to voice those opinions. If you don’t care about other peoples opinions and don’t want to read what they have to say, then take a hike. No one’s forcing you to read this blog.

  63. Ewalters7354 says:

    So calling Aaron Currt a piece of sh*t on the field is bad, but you can call commenters blowhards and dipsticks?Dude grow up.

    Everyone can not fulfil you every desire.We are all grown and are entitled to post whatever we want in reference to
    this team.So all that madness you just stated isn’t going to change anything.

  64. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Stevos, where did you go?
    We can use a little sunshine around here. We have a pile of dead horses that have been beatin so bad that you can’t tell they are horses anymore.

  65. screen – Actually, I thought I did throw a new idea out there to see what people thought of it with respect to Flynn and Wilson sharing snaps for a few weeks to see what people thought of it. I guess if you want to lie and say everything was the same old-same old, that’s fine, but I clearly brought something new to the table that I wanted to discuss on the blog with respect to our QB position. If you can’t/didn’t see it that way, that’s fine, but don’t say it’s the same crap because it wasn’t. I don’t care if you agree or disagree, but don’t say it wasn’t a new idea to discuss. And when you throw out your own personal attacks, it makes your whole idea look relatively worthless and now I’m even dumber for having read that (and I wasn’t overly smart with to begin with, which you’ll surely agree with… lol).

  66. Screensmoke says:

    If you think giving equal snaps to QBs 7 games into the season is an idea( option) your absolutely missing the boat. In fact your in a whole different marina in a completely different ocean!What kind of coach would do that when your above 500 and trying to have your rookie QB learn how to win in the NFL.nothing personal bobby but that one blows my mind. Platooning QBs at this level is a pipedream that doesn’t happen very often. We are halfway through this season and you want to take away reps for our QB at practice ( rookie QB)?

  67. Ewalters7354 says:

    I agree that splitting rep between the QBs are not a good idea.Thing is, it was never a good to begin with, so what makes it different now? I understand it’s the regular season,but man,if you’re going to go with a bogus 3 QB competition during all offseason workouts and exhibition games, you might as well give it a try.Pete said competition goes throughout the season, so let’s get this competition back on.

  68. Ewalters7354 says:

    One thing I’ve taken notice of, if it’s not Hawk77, Georgia, or bbnate commenting about something, Screensmoke will not agree with anything that is said.He just fails to give another person’s comment a chance before blowing it away.

  69. montanamike2 says:

    I gave up, I just skip em now…
    It’s easier to give my cat a bath…

    Good one Sluggo.
    Let’s start the day talking about Detroit, like i said, we may see Flynn if Suh gets Russell. I really want to see a better o-line and less dropped balls.

  70. Why does it say duplicate comment when none of my comments are showing?

  71. Ewalters7354 says:

    montana, can you explain to me what you see that’s not good from this o-line?No disagreement intended, just really need someone else’s opinion.

    My personal take is they actually have done a better job overall of protecting Wilson.I think sometimes (speculation) people want the line ti hold up for 10 seconds, when all a good QB needs is 3.Duke pointed out a while back that due to Wilson’s height, he has to drop back deeper, putting a strain on the o-line to hold up longer.I heard it said that Flynn would’ve been sacked 5 times, but I only seen Russell avoid one sack aside from the 2 official sacks.

  72. Wow, this is getting frusturating. These comments are posting, but my ones that had substance in them didn’t, WTF is happening.

  73. Ewalters7354 says:

    Tru, it does that to me also.I don’t know if you a using a phone or not, but I think that’s why it happens to me.

  74. I think the OL is also doing a decent job, I think the issue is the RW runs out to quickly because he can’t see. Also, he looks through the lanes on his first read and if it’s not open, then he bails because he can’t see to the others, unfortunatly, Rice isn’t usually the first read and that’s why Russel doesn’t go to him because he can’t see that he has his man beat of if their was broken coverage.

  75. Yeah, I got one through

  76. ScreenSmoke, maybe some of us our posting the same shit over and over because the offense is doing the same thing over and over by not scoring and being at the bottom of every passing catagory. The funny thing is you say the same shit over and over too. Why don’t you enlighten everyone by posting an orignal thought of your own.

  77. sluggo42 says:

    Tru –

    This think eats comments lately, I know exactly what you’re talking about, and I’m glad to see it’s not just me. I was thinking I was going crazy for a spell there…

    Platooning QB’s at this point… hmmm.. How many teams are currently doing that? Jets? no…Cleve? no… Anybody? I don’t think so.

    Can’t say I would support that one BobbyK, and I just don’t see Pete taking one rep away from his guy.

    Smokescreen – can’t say I disagree with ya, same story different day. Worded differently than I would tho, but I understand your frustration.

    Does everyone in here have an equal voice to express their opinion. Ya, you betcha. Does it get old hearing the same rant 30 times everyday? Ya, you betcha.

    Does anyone in here NOT know that there are a lot of people unsatisfied with the passing game, and that some people think RW is too short? Anyone? nah
    But just in case we don’t, perhaps you guys could tell us again a few more times today how bad RW is?? I am wavering, so I need some reinforcment.

    Does our passing game need help? Anyone?

  78. I think that’s why we never dump it off over the middle to our tightends as well. Also, I think playaction is the only way he can get enough space to see what’s happening down feild, which is why we run it so often.

  79. I understand that it gets old hearing the same thing over and over, now you know how I felt listening to everyone saying the same thing over earlier during training camp about Russel’s it factor, but I didn’t bash on anyone, I questioned it, but never bashed on it. Also, I rather read the same thing over and over, then watch the same offensive production over and over.

  80. mojjonation says:

    The autofill on a Kindle has to be the worst ever. Some of you guys use phones, good god.

    Detroit has no run game. A really good QB. One elite WR. A bunch of roll players (one of which is now out for the year). They have still managed to outgain Seattle by almost 400 yards altogether (and has played one less game), and averages 400+ per game and is 2-4. It sounds like a team that can own you between the 20′s but can’t do anything in the red zone.

    I don’t care if Detroit fumbled twice in Chicago territory. Saying they would of won if they hadn’t is total BS. Unless you have some kind of elfin magic going on, you truly do not know. That’s right up there with saying we’d be 6-1 or 7-0 if Matt Flynn was QB. Stop confusing your hard on for a guy with reality. Detroit’s reality is for the time being, they don’t execute when the chips are down. Hopefully that will continue Sunday.

    With the way Chicago gashed Detroit on the ground at 6 yards a carry, I still say we hand the ball off 45 times to Lynch, Turbin, and Washington, and don’t give Detroit the chance to figure out what gave them 10 wins last year.

    You keep Suh off of Wilson and all should be fine.

  81. sluggo42 says:

    Tru, EWalt, Rad, Ac –

    You are asking lately for other to post new thoughts, which some do here and there. Above, there is a little talk about the o-Line. But rather than talking about how the right side of the line is shakey, How McQ and Breno aren’t together on assignments, how blitz’s are NOT getting picked up, but EWAlt, you basically dismissed the notion, and pinned it back on RW’s height buy using Duke:

    “My personal take is they actually have done a better job overall of protecting Wilson.I think sometimes (speculation) people want the line ti hold up for 10 seconds, when all a good QB needs is 3.Duke pointed out a while back that due to Wilson’s height, he has to drop back deeper, putting a strain on the o-line to hold up longer.”

    How many times this year, when we give up the 3rd and longs, have other teams O=Line given their QB all frickin day?

    To just dismiss the O-Line and place the full blame on RW’s height is taking the easy way out to support your opinion.

    I think our line does a pretty good gob of run blocking, but pass protection isn’t their strong suite.

    So I guess I would ask, instead of the same old story about how RW sucks, is it possible that a more critical eye be spent on the oLine? A little investigation? I wonder if anyone tracks “pocket times” or something like that?

    I believe that it’s very much a part of the total picture that RW’s height could be a contributing factor, along with his youth and inexperience, but to dismiss other contributing factors such as scheme, pass protection, and the such doesn’t complete the whole picture.

    It’s like politics, just because someone says the same thing over and over and over, it still doesn’t make it true…

    You all claim to talk about other topics, but you always turn it full circle back to RW. Every time… Without fail.

  82. Ewalters7354 says:

    Trublu, great point!

    Or how about how dynamic Russell Wilson is and about how Matt Flynn has a noodle arm?

  83. mojjonation says:

    sluggo….the politics thing has to be the best analogy. If you pick even one headline on the TNT web site that has anything to do with politics, you get about a dozen of your keyboard legislatures spewing the same drivel over and over and over again. And yeah, everything seems to come around and eventually be about the QB.
    Not the horrid pass blocking against good defenses.
    Not the lack of a true number one receiver (sorry but Rices lone good
    year was when Favre was calling the plays, not Bevell).
    Not the fact that backs and TE’s have to chip before they go into
    their routes.
    Not the fact that the majority of the wide outs we have would be
    riding the bench for damn near any other team.
    Not the fact that someone in charge of play calling is in love with
    going 5 wide and getting 2 yards out of it.
    Or the fade routes that normally don’t pan out.

    I haven’t looked it up, but if we don’t have the best yards after contact running back in the league, he has to be top three.

    The joke that if we had MH last year we would of been better. There is a high probability that MH is on the IR before the end of game 2. Now if we had him last year, and he was signed through this year, now he would probably doing better. But that would be after he spent 6 months in traction from getting turf face, or turf arm, or turf leg. Or turf something because he would of been sacked enough to want to walk away. Actually, if MH would have stayed, I honestly think we might of even re-signed Hutch. Although I think the way he left was total garbage.

    Maybe if someone made a “Rabid Seahawks Fan” video and threatened to send “your ASS to Cleveland…at best”, we might get a rise out of somebody.

  84. Props to BobbyK! A new trick from that pony! When you’re 31st in a category, why not? I still think either Flynn gave Carroll a wedgie or RW has naked pics of Carroll. Whisencrap also started Leinert in front of Warner at one point, then Warner immediately lit it up when put in.

    Would it be that damaging to RW if he sat for a game or 3?

    Not a RW hater at all. Just want legit shot in playoffs for a run!

  85. Ewalters7354 says:

    Sluggo,I typed my response, and once I tried to send it, it didn’t post.So I’ll see you on the next thread.

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