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Browner on Harbaugh’s complaints: “It’s obnoxious”

Post by Eric Williams on Oct. 22, 2012 at 6:14 pm with 63 Comments »
October 22, 2012 6:30 pm

Seattle Seahawks cornerback Brandon Browner isn’t buying it.

Asked about Jim Harbaugh’s comments on Friday, a day after the 49ers 13-6 win over Seattle, Browner wonder what the San Francisco head coach was complaining about.

“It’s obnoxious to me, to be honest,” Browner said. “You know what I’m saying? You won the football game. We play a physical sport. You guys beat us.”

Browner said he played the way he usually plays last Thursday down at Candlestick Park, when asked if he felt he played any differently against San Francisco.

“No, not at all,” Browner said. “I just went out there and did my thing. I didn’t get any penalties called – I thought I played a good game in that aspect.”

Browner was the most penalized player in the league last year, with 19 penalties called on him.

On Friday, Harbaugh questioned if the physical style of play by Browner and fellow Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman were within the rules.

“Yeah, I think that’s just an important thing to address,” Harbaugh told the San Francisco Chronicle on Friday. “I mean, what is this all being defined as? Is it physical play? Is it within the rules? I think that’s the biggest question, is it within the rules what’s happening? We have to ask that question. We have to know what the interpretation is.”

Harbaugh claimed he wasn’t trying to influence the officials for his team’s rematch with Seattle later this year on Dec. 23 at CenturyLink Field.

“Any time you ask me anything about any of the officiating from the game – the previous game or an upcoming game – there’s a way we’ve been instructed to handle that,” Harbaugh told the Sacramento Bee. “And that is to not criticize the officiating and to address any concerns and just anything you want clarification or interpretation about with the officials in New York.”

After being told that Seattle head coach Pete Carroll said he was surprised that Harbaugh felt his receivers were “overwhelmed”, the San Francisco head coach chuckled, according to the report.

“I’m not going to comment on or get paraphrased or let somebody quote somebody else and then have a reaction to it,” Harbaugh told The Bee. “I think you pretty much know, we’re from the sticks-and-stones school approach. Calling us names isn’t going to hurt us.”

Carroll took the high road after practice today.

“I just looked at the film, and I heard about the comments,” Carroll said. “I wanted to see what was the point – and I thought it was very normal game. I thought our guys played hard and tough, and they did, too. And that was it.

“I don’t really know what the reference was about. I just hope that it doesn’t go any farther – like to the league. There’s no need for it to.”

Thurmond, Moffitt return to practice

Cornerback Walter Thurmond returned to the field today for Seattle’s 90-minute practice inside the VMAC.

Thurmond put pads on for the first time since last October, when he fractured his fibula against Cleveland.

Thurmond told reporters that he re-fractured his fibula in March and had to have surgery, setting back in terms of his rehabilitation and getting back on the field.

“If I didn’t re-fracture it I would’ve been back already,” Thurmond said. “It’s just one of those things.”

Carroll said that Thurmond will remain on the Physically Unable to Perform (PUP) list for now, and that no timetable has been established on when the team will add him to the active roster.

Seattle has two more weeks to make a decision on when to bring Thurmond up to the 53-man roster.

“He looked very quick,” Carroll said. “He worked very hard to be in shape with the trainers, so he could start practicing and not have to ease him into practice and all of that. So he looked like he had really worked hard.”

Thurmond said he’s working this week to show the coaching staff he’s ready to go.

“Just giving the coaches confidence – I think that’s the biggest thing,” Thurmond said. “Just showing that I can still play like I was playing before I got injured, and so I’ve just got to prove that in practice, and earn my reps for the team.”

Offensive lineman John Moffitt also returned to practice today. Moffitt missed four games after aggravating a knee injury that forced him to cut short his rookie season in 2011.

“He got out there and practiced with us,” Carroll said. “That was great to see him out there. I don’t know how far along John will be until we get him through Wednesday’s practice, then we’ll have a better clue. But it’s great just to have him back.”

Carroll said receiver Doug Baldwin (ankle) did not practice today.

Homework assignment — Preparing for the Lions
Carroll said that about half of today’s practice was geared toward preparing for Detroit, and that players were instructed to watch the Lions take on Chicago in the Monday Night Football game this evening.

“We did work some of just the introduction to the plan,” Carroll said. “We showed them their looks, and stuff like that, and then got off the field. We don’t have anything installed at this point at all. We’re just getting to know them today and tonight.”

Notes from practice
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  1. Brandon Browner, you are awesome man! Great Int in the end zone last Thurs. Total game changing play two weeks ago in Charlotte. Harbaugh-schmarbaugh! This is your home. We love you, man.

  2. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    omg bobby funny as hell

  3. Ewalters7354 says:

    To be honest, Browner and Sherm were definitely holding, but so were their corners.I just never understood how a person can go and whine to the league every time they have a tough game.Like BB said they won.Damn douche can’t be happy about anything smh..

  4. Hawksince77 says:

    I was really impressed (and excited for the team) by PC’s most recent press conference. I love his attitude about the team, about the rest of the year, his assessment of his players on both offense and defense, and what he expects.

    Really good times to be a Seahawk fan.

  5. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “Well, my daddy left home when I was three And he didn’t leave much to ma and me Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze Now, I don’t blame him ’cause he run and hid But the meanest thing that he ever didWas before he left, he went and named me Suh
    Well, he must o’ thought that is quite a jokeAnd it got a lot of laughs from a’ lots of folkIt seems I had to fight my whole life throughSome gal would giggle and I’d get redAnd some guy’d laugh and I’d bust his headI tell ya, life ain’t easy for a boy named Suh
    Well, I grew up quick and I grew up meanMy fist got hard and my wits got keenI’d roam from town to town to hide my shameBut I made me a vow to the moon and starsThat I’d search the honky tonks and barsAnd kill that man who gave me that awful name.”

    I sure hope the o-line is ready for Suh.

  6. Ewalters7354 says:

    Suh=overrated.If he doesn’t get pressure he will immediately start resorting to violence.The o-line better make sure they play until the whistle or Matt Flynn will be coming in real soon due to injury to RW.They may wanna activate Josh Portis just to be safe.

    Seriously though, we need to be physical and run right at him!

  7. bbnate420 says:

    Good injury news. The fibula isn’t a weight-bearing bone, so it would be interesting to know how he re-broke it. Possibly it wasn’t set well the first time? That seems unlikely as I’m sure they pretty much get the best doctors you can. A severe high ankle sprain would generally keep you out longer than a broken fibula. I thought that was the major issue and the fibula was just ancillary? Will never know. Hope he’s back soon.

    I’m not sure if this is what you meant Eric, but I believe he has 3 weeks from today for them to decide to either put him on the IR or the 53? If I understand it correctly, they have three weeks from the time he begins practicing to make the decision. That may be the end of week 10. I don’t know if they get until the Monday of week 11 since he began practicing Monday of week 8?

  8. Very pleased that Thurm is back and ready to mix it up! As much as I love Tru, he truly has lost a step with that crazy back of his. Secondary depth crucial I think for later in the season. Really want to see Moffitt not be injured anymore! Keeping my fingers crossed!

    That is my assesment too of Suh, the only good thing about someone that has punkish behavior is you can “get to” his weak mind and use that to our advantage! I just hope we do it before he pulls a knife on one of our guys! :)


  9. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    Great work Browner, stick it to that arrogant bastard. I hate Jim Fraudbaugh. Can’t wait till we get a real QB and dominate his overrated ass.

  10. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    Good god almighty did anyone see Suh destroy Jay Cutler straight up judo style?

    Wilson might be actually wise to prematurely bail out of the pocket next week.

  11. Suh is a freak and a difference maker. Even if he doesn’t have 5-10 sacks, teams know they must account for him all the time and that gives his teammates better/more chances to make players. Great players make those around you better and that’s what he does. There are plenty of players who have more than 3.5 sacks in the league right now, but do most of those players demand double teams and do most offensive coordinators game plan with them specifically in mind? I think not.

  12. Our RG is going to be in for a long day on Sunday. That’s for sure.

  13. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    Moffitt is going to be back and he’s certainly going to have his hands full. At least Unger has been outstanding, remember when people said we should actually re-sign Chris Spencer and keep Unger at guard?


  14. bbnate420 says:

    Something positive, ACID. Gold star! :-)

  15. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    Man, the Bears look formidable. Stafford has been wild but their scoring defense being even better than ours is no fluke.

  16. Suh – hit on Cutler was the exact same hit as Clemons had a few weeks ago and got a 15 yard penalty for “lifting” the QB.

    I guess that is only a Penalty if a seahawk does it

  17. Suh will probably get a fine, too. He’s certainly not a guy the NFL is going to give a free pass to.

  18. nate – lol

  19. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “Suh – hit on Cutler was the exact same hit as Clemons had a few weeks ago and got a 15 yard penalty for “lifting” the QB.

    I guess that is only a Penalty if a seahawk does it”

    The difference is that Cam had already gotten rid of the ball and Clemons still took the opportunity to drive him into the ground. Suh’s play is within the rules, Cutler had the ball and was going down. I expect he’s going to get fined anyway just since the league is trying to crack down on physical defense and encourage offensive shootouts under the guise of player safety.

  20. Ewalters7354 says:

    Why do the hawks always have to play a team that has just come off a horrid offensive game? Man!

    I like it though.Makes an even greater challenge for this team.Hopefully they are able to play their best game of the season.We’ll see…

  21. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    This game tonight was one of the most pathetic displays by the Lions that I’ve ever seen. And I watched the entire 0-16 season. Wow. Our defense should have a field day.

  22. Based on the news when Moffit and Carpenter went down last season, I never would of thought we’d see Carp playing and playing well and Moffit struggling to make it on the field. Carp had the ACL in Week 9 which is a year recovery and Moffit had the PCL/MCL a few weeks earlier.

  23. bbnate420 says:

    Thanks, BobbyK. Glad to see you’re not giving up on us yet!:-) It wasn’t completely sarcastic either. I hope people like ACID step up their game and comment on a VARIETY of issues. Some good, some bad. Even 80 % bad. Just don’t parrot the same thing over and over again. That’s been my point. I don’t believe he would get near the amount of vitriol if he posted about something else occasionally. I love Hendrix, but I don’t want to listen to him 24/7. Temper the Wilson rants with some nuggets of enlightenment.

  24. bbnate420 says:

    On the fines, I have mentioned it, as well as MANY others, but a large number of players have received fines larger than the 7 grand that the PUNK Cole got for ending Okung’s season in 2011. For much less severe infractions IMO. The same amount for Taterhead falling down in the end zone after a TD in 2011. Twice as much for some questionable hits this year. Don’t want to look them all up. I believe it was more than 15 grand for the “hit to the head” hit from Jason Jones on Brady. Clemons drove Brady’s head down into Jones’ shoulder pads. Was he just supposed to jump out of the way when he didn’t even see it coming? I guess ending a players’ season is worth much less if you’re only a LT for Southern Alaska?

  25. bbnate420 says:

    pope, I understand what you’re saying, but we don’t know that this current knee issue has anything to do with the one from last year for Moffitt. At least as far as I’ve been able to ascertain. Football’s a violent game. I just hope we can keep them both healthy for awhile. I think he will be in a battle for his job from Sweezy in 2013 regardless. If we get Breno straightened out on pass blocking or upgrade the position in the off-season, then I believe we will be in great position. The biggest issue, IMO, is having the time for the line to play together and become a unit.

  26. bbnate420 says:

    Off topic, but if any of you are in an area where you can try Ninkasi Brewing Company’s Total Domination IPA, you should definitely do so. If you like IPAs? It’s out of Eugene, Oregon. I don’t know how far they distribute. I’m in Tacoma. My guess is that it is at least only available on the West Coast. I won’t hold the Ducks against them. Excellent. I have tomorrow off of school and am thoroughly enjoying a couple.

    I assume there are a few beer drinkers out there. I KNOW there at least a couple.

  27. bbnate420 says:

    ACID, they still have Megatron. I would never sleep on him. They still have Pettigrew, Titus Young, and Broyles as well. I think we should and will win, but I wouldn’t count them as a gimmie. This Hawks aren’t good enough yet to have ANY gimmies, much less on the road. The Lambs and Tards were sure wins to some on here. Remember?

  28. AaronCurryIsBUST says:

    “Based on the news when Moffit and Carpenter went down last season, I never would of thought we’d see Carp playing and playing well and Moffit struggling to make it on the field. Carp had the ACL in Week 9 which is a year recovery and Moffit had the PCL/MCL a few weeks earlier.”

    Moffitt recovered a lot quicker and participated in pretty much all of the offseason stuff while Carpenter was still rehabbing. Then Moffitt hurt his elbow in the preseason, paving the way for JR Sweezy to play the rest of it out and start the season opener. Then Moffitt came back in, played well for a few games, and then hurt something in his leg (I think it was his knee again).

    So it wasn’t as if Carpenter recovered faster than Moffitt, it’s that Moffitt suffered a series of other injuries.

    “ACID, they still have Megatron. I would never sleep on him. They still have Pettigrew, Titus Young, and Broyles as well. I think we should and will win, but I wouldn’t count them as a gimmie. This Hawks aren’t good enough yet to have ANY gimmies, much less on the road. The Lambs and Tards were sure wins to some on here. Remember?”

    Well, yeah, which is why I said I expect our defense to have a field day, not the offense. I don’t trust the offense at home, let alone on the road in an early game. Megatron and Pettigrew our good but if there’s any secondary in the NFL that can stop them, it’s ours. And while they have potential, I don’t fear Young or Broyles much, they’re essentially Tate and Baldwin with a better QB throwing to them.

  29. On the Suh sack, it looked to me as though Suh deliberately brought his right leg around to provide a fulcrum to lay Cutler sideways in mid air, allowing Suh maximum opportunity to land on him. Bringing his leg around like that was totally unnecessary to the play, Cutler was going down, and seems to me similar to Suh’s kneeing of the Packer’s guard last year. I’m no Cutler fan, but it seems deserving of a fine.

    On the beer front, Ninkasi Total Domination IPA is great… You might light Arrogant Bastard Ale as well.

  30. “like”

  31. bbnate420 says:

    ACIB, Moffitt recovered “a lot” quicker primarily because his knee injury was less severe. Carp tore his ACL while Moffitt tore his PCL and MCL. While Moffitt tore 2 ligaments, the ACL is harder and takes longer than the PCL and MCL combined to rehab. I haven’t received any reliable info on what Moffitt’s knee issues have been in 2012. Carp is ahead of schedule to be playing right now for a man of his size. I bet we won’t even see him at 100 % physically until the very end of 2012 or 2013. I like them both and hope they are the starting guards in 2013. Hopefully, Breno steps up or they find a new RT in the off-season.

  32. bbnate420 says:

    Snappa, Arrogant Bastard Ale sounds familiar. I assume it’s available in the PNW?

  33. bbnate420 says:

    The Hawks shouldn’t have to worry too much about Detroit’s running game. That bodes well for defending the pass. I think RW, i.e. the worst QB that ever lived, will put up 24+ points with the help of the rest of the offensive players.

  34. bbnate420 says:

    See, I have went back to ACIB. I am going to try my hardest to not dump on you. You have posted a number of posts lately that aren’t just a regurgitation of your old schtick. I just read Duke’s post from yesterday, and I am going to trey to abide by it. I think he had a good idea. Let’s all just try our best to add to the conversation and not devolve it into the same old mess.

  35. bbnate420 says:

    Does anyone doubt we’ll be able to run versus Det? The game will be determined by our throwing and pass defense IMO. Not that this is some enlightening entry.

  36. GeorgiaHawk says:

    bbnate420-Must be good beer. Lol. And, ( imo ) beer is never an off topic around here. Song parodies maybe, beer never! Be glad you live in an area that has many good selections and not in the southeast where in many bars it’s Bud, Bud light, Bud lime, Bud platinum, Bud this, Bud that, Bud ect….

  37. GeorgiaHawk says:

    Good riddance!

    Perhaps they could just honor these players at half time of the SuperBowl and with some big screen highlights of their play, thus eliminating the usual, ( bring back the washed up star from the past show ) that I’m sure very few real football fans will miss.

    I also like the idea of moving up the time to 4pmET when west coast teams play out east.

  38. montanamike2 says:

    I’m supportive of positive ACIB comments, good for you. Even if you don’t agree with others that will help your argument and credibility.
    There was a power surge last week(wed) and it fried my controler and motor for the boilermaker in my house. The plumbers ordered the parts from Philly and they arrived yesterday but were the wrong parts! I hope the right ones get here soon because it’s snowing outside and my house is frigging cold! No heat or water for a week in winter. I went to the springs twice yesterday but i’m all sauna’d out.

  39. Dukeshire says:

    Agreed. That game is long overdue to be taken to the woodshed.

    bbnate420 – It is available, at least here in Portland.

  40. bird_spit says:

    I’d like the idea of a Superbowl with the Seahawks in it… Per ACID, it won’t happen with RW at the helm. I disagree, but I’m tired of the bonehead play, and conservative play calls. I hope by year end, RW has the complete play book in his head, and 5-6 audibles at he ready. By year three, I hope he can identify the defensive play, and can effectively audible into a great counter punch. Until then, we will rely on Bevelles best guess.

  41. montanamike2 says:

    The canadian Budweiser is a lot better tasting than the american one, i think it’s made by Labatts and has a 7% alc. that gives it both a bigger kick and a better flavor, it also doesn’t have the aftertaste that i grew up on with a lot of canadian beers. We have so many micro brews here in Montana that it can be hard to choose, luckily they just approved high test beer here so we’ll see. I once grabbed a case of Molson xxx at the border, 12% but it was horrible! My friend and i had to nearly freeze it so we could drink a few, it tasted like rubbing alcahol. After 2-3 beers each we passed out and woke up later with giant headaches, the rest of that nasty stuff went down the sink. By the way my friend was one of the biggest drinkers that i’ve ever seen.

  42. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “Bevelles best guess.” Lol. Try saying that 10 times real fast.

  43. GeorgiaHawk says:

    “We have so many micro brews here in Montana that it can be hard to choose”

    Just keep rubbing it in why don’t you! Lol.

    One way I deal with the lack of good beer around here is to carry around some kind of Cheleda mix or spicy Tomato juice. Especially for the high gravity beers.

  44. montanamike2 says:

    Yeah i mix clamato in the local bar beer on game days(bud).

  45. Dukeshire says:

    Clamato is great for bloody marys, also.

  46. montanamike2 says:

    I love bloody marys.

  47. gonefishin69690 says:

    Impressed with what Browner and Sherman have done this year to clean up thier game after Sherman was the most penalized player last year. I have no idea what JH in crying about. Can’t wait to play them again 12/23. The San Francisco “Pouty-Whiners”. I like it.

  48. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    montana can you still get Yellowstone pale ale up there? there was a billings honey wheat that was real good too.

  49. montanamike2 says:

    Yep we have everything here.

  50. hawkfaninoklahoma says:

    i used to drink the yellowstone every game day when i lived in helena

  51. HawkfaninMT says:

    Montana has become the “Land of the Local Brewery”… Missoula has 4 or 5 open up in the last couple of years. Loving it! I do enjoy the Mack and jacks from the last time I was out in Seattle though

  52. Ewalters7354 says:

    No matter how hard I see some trying, the QB talk just isn’t happening on this particular thred.What a relief! Felt so great not to get angry discussing it lol

    Hopefully Eric doesn’t have a RW link on the next thread :)

  53. jawpeace says:

    Harbaugh is on the perfect team the 40 whiners.

  54. Browner’s been having a great year. Much fewer penalties so far – and I can’t think of a better tackling CB in the league.

  55. Much better atmosphere here today. Must be all those beers :). Lets hope the coaches learned something from the SF game.

  56. Few things – 1. The defense will have to go to Detroit, and play Chicago-esque if they wanna win this game. Chicago limited them big time in their own stadium.

    2. My predicted stat line for RW? 12/29 148 yds, 1TD, 2INT. 100 of these yards, and 9 completions in the first half.

    3. Arrogant Bastard Ale is HORRIBLE. I bought a bunch of it before, ended up sitting under my table until I moved and gave it to my friend. I think he drank half of one, and dumped the rest out. Never again.

  57. mojjonation says:

    KJR just announced Suh will not be fined for his hit on Cutler.

    Wherever Suh lines up, you can bet that whatever lineman is across from him better be prepared.

    Detroit does not scare me in any sense of any part of the game. Even playing in their house, with Stafford and Megatron, both their offense and defense look pretty anemic. Granted they held Chicago to 13 points, but I still don’t think they are that good. Chicago’s offense isn’t all that great. Even with Forte, Cutler, and Marshall, they are 22nd in yards, 25th in passing, and 9th in rushing right behind Seattle. We have Lynch, a rookie QB, and honestly no number one receiver, and we still manage to get it done more often than not. Chicago’s defense is scarier than their offense. Detroit’s offense is scarier than their defense. Maybe those two can combine for a team and we can win that game and get credit for two.

    VanDenDork needs to lose the red contacts until he can be a force to be reckoned with for more than a few plays a game. That guy just resembles a bald and bloated Marilyn Manson with that look.

  58. “Few things – 1. The defense will have to go to Detroit, and play Chicago-esque if they wanna win this game. Chicago limited them big time in their own stadium”

    What a game for Tillman last night – – was often alone on Megatron, and didn’t let him do much of anything . . .

  59. @bird — at least Harbaugh gave us some respect in his quotes this time, can’t be too mad about this one.

    Did you happen to notice the below note from one of the commenters to the article?

    “It’s scary how good this team could be with a good QB. Imagine how many Superbowls we could win with a guy like Brees, Brady or Peyton. I just wish we could see what Colin could do for a complete game. It isn’t going to happen with a slow inaccurate bumbler like Smith and I wish Harbaugh would just admit it. Maybe he doesn’t know it but I do.”

    Had to give that one a wry chuckle . . . we are not alone . . .

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